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Trump Calls For Firing/Resignation of JCS Chairman Milley

Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:46 am

Continuing his obsession with stoking culture wars and public denunciation of professionals he hired, the ex POTUS has gone after General Milley, essentially calling him weak, kowtowing to ‘leftists’ and other baseless insults (umm...you hired him?).

The rub seems to be that in mid-2020 during protests in DC, Trump wanted to utilize the military and Milley told him that was not possible. It seems Trump is still raw about an adviser explaining the law to him and quelling his authoritarian fantasies.

The comments were spurred by a new book by Wall Street Journal reporter Michael Bender which alleges the two leaders got into a profanity-laced fight in summer 2020 over how the U.S. military should respond to racial equality protests occurring throughout the country.

According to Axios, which reviewed an advanced copy of the volume, Milley attempted to explain his role as Joint Chiefs chairman as an advisory role to the White House, and not a direct command for all military members. Trump would not accept that, and other officials had to intervene to calm the situation.


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Re: Trump Calls For Firing/Resignation of JCS Chairman Milley

Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:51 am

And we should listen to him... why exactly?
 
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Re: Trump Calls For Firing/Resignation of JCS Chairman Milley

Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:07 am

Newark727 wrote:
And we should listen to him... why exactly?


Nobody with any sense of reason will, but he remains the de facto messaging leader for the American right.

This is all part of his victim schtick - I hired these people, they failed/disappointed me.
 
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Re: Trump Calls For Firing/Resignation of JCS Chairman Milley

Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:16 am

Aaron747 wrote:
Newark727 wrote:
And we should listen to him... why exactly?


Nobody with any sense of reason will, but he remains the de facto messaging leader for the American right.

This is all part of his victim schtick - I hired these people, they failed/disappointed me.


General Milley is getting attention from the GOP because he put Matt Gaetz in his place on CRT, and up to this point, the GOP and Fox News have put out very weak rebuttals against the general. Why hasn't Trump directed his attention towards Gaetz instead? I mean, Trump went insofar to pass the bi-partisan FOSTA-SESTA bill which was rejected by Gaetz (Source: Reason.com).

(Who am I kidding, you're taking about a guy that paid off Stormy Daniels).
 
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Re: Trump Calls For Firing/Resignation of JCS Chairman Milley

Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:56 am

Wow, a guy with no legitimacy calling out another guy with no legitimacy.

Both have proven they are traitors to this nation and the rule of law and must be punished accordingly.

Russia and China are having a field day with this mess.
 
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Re: Trump Calls For Firing/Resignation of JCS Chairman Milley

Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:02 am

FlyEndeavorAir wrote:
Wow, a guy with no legitimacy calling out another guy with no legitimacy.

Both have proven they are traitors to this nation and the rule of law and must be punished accordingly.

Russia and China are having a field day with this mess.


Edit as I misinterpreted this originally
 
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Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:05 am

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Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:08 am

FlyEndeavorAir wrote:
Wow, a guy with no legitimacy calling out another guy with no legitimacy.

Both have proven they are traitors to this nation and the rule of law and must be punished accordingly.

Russia and China are having a field day with this mess.


The JCS chairman is a 'traitor'? That is a massive charge. Care to substantiate or is this typical keyboard warrior quarterbacking?
 
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Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:14 am

Aaron747 wrote:
FlyEndeavorAir wrote:
Wow, a guy with no legitimacy calling out another guy with no legitimacy.

Both have proven they are traitors to this nation and the rule of law and must be punished accordingly.

Russia and China are having a field day with this mess.


The JCS chairman is a 'traitor'? That is a massive charge. Care to substantiate or is this typical keyboard warrior quarterbacking?


States in the Bill of Rights we're supposed to have a strong regulated militia, not a woke one. The "enemy" doesn't care about how many checkboxes you tick off, they just laugh and will stomp on us.

The US needs a strong military that is feared throughout the world, not the one everyone laughs at as Milley has given us.

He and the former occupier of the White House can share a cell with each-other. Both are no good traitors in my book and both hate this country.
 
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Re: Trump Calls For Firing/Resignation of JCS Chairman Milley

Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:22 am

FlyEndeavorAir wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
FlyEndeavorAir wrote:
Wow, a guy with no legitimacy calling out another guy with no legitimacy.

Both have proven they are traitors to this nation and the rule of law and must be punished accordingly.

Russia and China are having a field day with this mess.


The JCS chairman is a 'traitor'? That is a massive charge. Care to substantiate or is this typical keyboard warrior quarterbacking?


States in the Bill of Rights we're supposed to have a strong regulated militia, not a woke one. The "enemy" doesn't care about how many checkboxes you tick off, they just laugh and will stomp on us.

The US needs a strong military that is feared throughout the world, not the one everyone laughs at as Milley has given us.

He and the former occupier of the White House can share a cell with each-other. Both are no good traitors in my book and both hate this country.


Sounds like a bunch of sour grapes to me. Whatever you call 'wokeness' is SOP in all aspects of modern personnel management. Organizations fester, lose ability to innovate, and become inefficient by staying in a 1960s mindset.

Perhaps you need to look up Article III, section 3 of the Constitution to find the proper definition of treason.
 
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Re: Trump Calls For Firing/Resignation of JCS Chairman Milley

Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:17 am

FlyEndeavorAir wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
FlyEndeavorAir wrote:
Wow, a guy with no legitimacy calling out another guy with no legitimacy.

Both have proven they are traitors to this nation and the rule of law and must be punished accordingly.

Russia and China are having a field day with this mess.


The JCS chairman is a 'traitor'? That is a massive charge. Care to substantiate or is this typical keyboard warrior quarterbacking?


States in the Bill of Rights we're supposed to have a strong regulated militia, not a woke one. The "enemy" doesn't care about how many checkboxes you tick off, they just laugh and will stomp on us.

The US needs a strong military that is feared throughout the world, not the one everyone laughs at as Milley has given us.

He and the former occupier of the White House can share a cell with each-other. Both are no good traitors in my book and both hate this country.

And the enemy will still fear the US military just as they always have. Letting LGBTQIA+ serve and making the overall workplace aspect better for our uniformed men and women doesn't make it weak. We are the most powerful nation in history because of our military. China and Russia can laugh all they want because they may not know the winner of a war against us but they know for sure they will be fuc*ked pretty damn hard.
 
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Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:25 am

TWA772LR wrote:
And the enemy will still fear the US military just as they always have. Letting LGBTQIA+ serve and making the overall workplace aspect better for our uniformed men and women doesn't make it weak. We are the most powerful nation in history because of our military. China and Russia can laugh all they want because they may not know the winner of a war against us but they know for sure they will be fuc*ked pretty damn hard.


Not to mention... the highly touted Israeli army has embraced (I probably shouldn't use that word) a diverse and representative military, consisting of citizens of all stripes (and maybe not that word, either...) for decades.
 
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Re: Trump Calls For Firing/Resignation of JCS Chairman Milley

Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:35 am

alfa164 wrote:
TWA772LR wrote:
And the enemy will still fear the US military just as they always have. Letting LGBTQIA+ serve and making the overall workplace aspect better for our uniformed men and women doesn't make it weak. We are the most powerful nation in history because of our military. China and Russia can laugh all they want because they may not know the winner of a war against us but they know for sure they will be fuc*ked pretty damn hard.


Not to mention... the highly touted Israeli army has embraced (I probably shouldn't use that word) a diverse and representative military, consisting of citizens of all stripes (and maybe not that word, either...) for decades.


Women also serve in combat and flight positions in the PLA as well...one of the enemies cited.
 
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Re: Trump Calls For Firing/Resignation of JCS Chairman Milley

Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:25 am

I thought it was the blue side that was supposed to have the "cancel culture" (I hate that term) problem, yet most of the "get them out" messages see to come from the reds?
 
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Re: Trump Calls For Firing/Resignation of JCS Chairman Milley

Thu Jul 01, 2021 9:54 am

The problem with the US military isn't that it is feared or not, it's that its leaders, and by that I mean the politicians, use it extremely recklessly, attacking almost random targets like Iraq...
 
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Re: Trump Calls For Firing/Resignation of JCS Chairman Milley

Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:12 am

The US millitary is given more resources than the next 15 on the list, combined.
Most of them allies. And that for a country that doesn’t border any concieveable enemies.

The US millitary could cut the budget 2/3s and have a 24/7/365 pride parade, painting all the aircraft carriers like rainbow flags, and still be feared beyond anything else. The real damage Russia and China does to the west, is fooling us into spending such extreme amounts of resources on being unneccesary far in front of them.
 
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Re: Trump Calls For Firing/Resignation of JCS Chairman Milley

Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:10 am

Replace Trump with "ex President who tries to stay relevant by making statements he knows will create headlines "and American news makes much more sense.
 
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Re: Trump Calls For Firing/Resignation of JCS Chairman Milley

Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:32 pm

FlyEndeavorAir wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
FlyEndeavorAir wrote:
Wow, a guy with no legitimacy calling out another guy with no legitimacy.

Both have proven they are traitors to this nation and the rule of law and must be punished accordingly.

Russia and China are having a field day with this mess.


The JCS chairman is a 'traitor'? That is a massive charge. Care to substantiate or is this typical keyboard warrior quarterbacking?


States in the Bill of Rights we're supposed to have a strong regulated militia, not a woke one..


I would say a strong regulated militia that believes whatever the hell they want, that would include being "woke". And i am pretty sure laughter dies down quickly when a JDAM comes through the roof.

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Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:36 pm

M564038 wrote:
And that for a country that doesn’t border any concieveable enemies.
The real damage Russia and China does to the west, is fooling us into spending such extreme amounts of resources on being unneccesary far in front of them.

Land borders haven't mattered for 100+ years. They matter even less now with cyber attacks and ballistic missiles. You don't want to be just "slightly better" than an opponent. If you're close, they may decide to "try" you. If there's an overwhelming advantage, they won't. There's no such thing as fighting fairly.
 
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Re: Trump Calls For Firing/Resignation of JCS Chairman Milley

Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:49 pm

johns624 wrote:
M564038 wrote:
And that for a country that doesn’t border any concieveable enemies.
The real damage Russia and China does to the west, is fooling us into spending such extreme amounts of resources on being unneccesary far in front of them.

Land borders haven't mattered for 100+ years. They matter even less now with cyber attacks and ballistic missiles. You don't want to be just "slightly better" than an opponent. If you're close, they may decide to "try" you. If there's an overwhelming advantage, they won't. There's no such thing as fighting fairly.


Yes and no. If land borders didn't matter, China wouldn't be tempting India to pull the trigger every few years, and Putin would have zero interest in reclaiming/reasserting influence in Crimea and Ukraine. Much less attempting to be a middling power in DPRK and Syria.
 
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Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:28 pm

Aaron747 wrote:
johns624 wrote:
M564038 wrote:
And that for a country that doesn’t border any concieveable enemies.
The real damage Russia and China does to the west, is fooling us into spending such extreme amounts of resources on being unneccesary far in front of them.

Land borders haven't mattered for 100+ years. They matter even less now with cyber attacks and ballistic missiles. You don't want to be just "slightly better" than an opponent. If you're close, they may decide to "try" you. If there's an overwhelming advantage, they won't. There's no such thing as fighting fairly.


Yes and no. If land borders didn't matter, China wouldn't be tempting India to pull the trigger every few years, and Putin would have zero interest in reclaiming/reasserting influence in Crimea and Ukraine. Much less attempting to be a middling power in DPRK and Syria.
I was referring to a prior poster saying the US didn't need a big military since they didn't have any potential enemies with land borders with us. I just meant that just because someone didn't have a land border with you, that they couldn't harm you. A perfect example was Pearl Harbor.
 
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Re: Trump Calls For Firing/Resignation of JCS Chairman Milley

Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:39 pm

The racist, lying ,traitor, that isn't president anymore wants what?

Trump is a joke and a coward.

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