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DeSantis’ anti-riot law didn’t apply as Cuba protesters shut down a Miami-Dade road.

Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:32 pm

Awkward!

DeSantis’ anti-riot law didn’t apply as Cuba protesters shut down a Miami-Dade road.

https://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/edi ... 63763.html

"Florida’s misbegotten anti-riot law leaves even peaceful demonstrators subject to being arrested if a protest is arbitrarily deemed a “riot.” The law explicitly makes blocking a highway a felony offense. Worse, it gives civil legal immunity to people who drive through protesters who are blocking a road — basically, encouraging haters to do just that.

Here’s what the governor said when he signed the blatantly un-American bill into law: “Just think about it, you’re driving home from work and, all of a sudden, you have people out there shutting down a highway, and we worked hard to make sure that didn’t happen in Florida.”

But it did happen in Florida, Gov. DeSantis. Demonstrators shut down State Road 826 in both directions Tuesday in solidarity with their counterparts in Cuba. Police obliged and redirected traffic. Mercifully, no one roared through the crowd in a vehicle.
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Re: DeSantis’ anti-riot law didn’t apply as Cuba protesters shut down a Miami-Dade road.

Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:48 pm

This seems to back up the whole "racist" claim that everyone knew this was about. The HP just established precedent for having the case tossed on that basis.
 
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Re: DeSantis’ anti-riot law didn’t apply as Cuba protesters shut down a Miami-Dade road.

Thu Jul 15, 2021 9:51 pm

Critical Racial Theory applies!
 
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Re: DeSantis’ anti-riot law didn’t apply as Cuba protesters shut down a Miami-Dade road.

Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:02 pm

It's only okay if white republicans do it. /sarcasm.
 
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Re: DeSantis’ anti-riot law didn’t apply as Cuba protesters shut down a Miami-Dade road.

Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:13 pm

MaverickM11 wrote:
Awkward!

DeSantis’ anti-riot law didn’t apply as Cuba protesters shut down a Miami-Dade road.

https://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/edi ... 63763.html

"Florida’s misbegotten anti-riot law leaves even peaceful demonstrators subject to being arrested if a protest is arbitrarily deemed a “riot.” The law explicitly makes blocking a highway a felony offense. Worse, it gives civil legal immunity to people who drive through protesters who are blocking a road — basically, encouraging haters to do just that.

Here’s what the governor said when he signed the blatantly un-American bill into law: “Just think about it, you’re driving home from work and, all of a sudden, you have people out there shutting down a highway, and we worked hard to make sure that didn’t happen in Florida.”

But it did happen in Florida, Gov. DeSantis. Demonstrators shut down State Road 826 in both directions Tuesday in solidarity with their counterparts in Cuba. Police obliged and redirected traffic. Mercifully, no one roared through the crowd in a vehicle.
"


So what DHS secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said in no way shape or form that Cubans better not attempt coming here cuz they wont be let in . Seems to me the Cubans would have a solid asylum claim. Maybe it's because the Biden white house knows Cubans are more likely to vote Republican so they can't come. But the southern triangle countries citizens have a green light to flow over our borders why is that? Cubans own that part of Florida I get the point but they were not "rioting" no burning of buildings no destroying property or cars I think that was more the point. But still law should be the same across the board.
Last edited by stratosphere on Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:24 pm, edited 2 times in total.
 
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Re: DeSantis’ anti-riot law didn’t apply as Cuba protesters shut down a Miami-Dade road.

Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:17 pm

stratosphere wrote:
MaverickM11 wrote:
Awkward!

DeSantis’ anti-riot law didn’t apply as Cuba protesters shut down a Miami-Dade road.

https://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/edi ... 63763.html

"Florida’s misbegotten anti-riot law leaves even peaceful demonstrators subject to being arrested if a protest is arbitrarily deemed a “riot.” The law explicitly makes blocking a highway a felony offense. Worse, it gives civil legal immunity to people who drive through protesters who are blocking a road — basically, encouraging haters to do just that.

Here’s what the governor said when he signed the blatantly un-American bill into law: “Just think about it, you’re driving home from work and, all of a sudden, you have people out there shutting down a highway, and we worked hard to make sure that didn’t happen in Florida.”

But it did happen in Florida, Gov. DeSantis. Demonstrators shut down State Road 826 in both directions Tuesday in solidarity with their counterparts in Cuba. Police obliged and redirected traffic. Mercifully, no one roared through the crowd in a vehicle.
"


So what DHS secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said in no way shape or form that Cubans better not attempt coming here cuz they wont be let in . Seems to me the Cubans would have a solid asylum claim. Maybe it's because the Biden white house knows Cubans are more likely to vote Republican so they can't come. But the southern triangle countries citizens have a green light to flow over our borders why is that?


The topic is DeSantis and FL’s riot policy hypocrisy, not DHS policy. But whatever I guess it’s time for flagrant whataboutism again :boggled:
 
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Re: DeSantis’ anti-riot law didn’t apply as Cuba protesters shut down a Miami-Dade road.

Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:21 pm

Aaron747 wrote:
stratosphere wrote:
MaverickM11 wrote:
Awkward!

DeSantis’ anti-riot law didn’t apply as Cuba protesters shut down a Miami-Dade road.

https://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/edi ... 63763.html

"Florida’s misbegotten anti-riot law leaves even peaceful demonstrators subject to being arrested if a protest is arbitrarily deemed a “riot.” The law explicitly makes blocking a highway a felony offense. Worse, it gives civil legal immunity to people who drive through protesters who are blocking a road — basically, encouraging haters to do just that.

Here’s what the governor said when he signed the blatantly un-American bill into law: “Just think about it, you’re driving home from work and, all of a sudden, you have people out there shutting down a highway, and we worked hard to make sure that didn’t happen in Florida.”

But it did happen in Florida, Gov. DeSantis. Demonstrators shut down State Road 826 in both directions Tuesday in solidarity with their counterparts in Cuba. Police obliged and redirected traffic. Mercifully, no one roared through the crowd in a vehicle.
"


I edited my post
So what DHS secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said in no way shape or form that Cubans better not attempt coming here cuz they wont be let in . Seems to me the Cubans would have a solid asylum claim. Maybe it's because the Biden white house knows Cubans are more likely to vote Republican so they can't come. But the southern triangle countries citizens have a green light to flow over our borders why is that?


The topic is DeSantis and FL’s riot policy hypocrisy, not DHS policy. But whatever I guess it’s time for flagrant whataboutism again :boggled:
 
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Re: DeSantis’ anti-riot law didn’t apply as Cuba protesters shut down a Miami-Dade road.

Fri Jul 16, 2021 7:11 am

Why should the federalist waist there time on a Cuban-American protest? No violence. Simple
 
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Re: DeSantis’ anti-riot law didn’t apply as Cuba protesters shut down a Miami-Dade road.

Fri Jul 16, 2021 7:16 am

RightRudder wrote:
Why should the federalist waist there time on a Cuban-American protest? No violence. Simple


What are 'the federalist'? :psst:
 
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Re: DeSantis’ anti-riot law didn’t apply as Cuba protesters shut down a Miami-Dade road.

Fri Jul 16, 2021 8:00 am

Aaron747 wrote:
RightRudder wrote:
Why should the federalist waist there time on a Cuban-American protest? No violence. Simple


What are 'the federalist'? :psst:


The federal government. Just referring to the federalist papers and the "faction" clause. Specifically, Federalist No. 10.
 
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Re: DeSantis’ anti-riot law didn’t apply as Cuba protesters shut down a Miami-Dade road.

Fri Jul 16, 2021 12:13 pm

simple BLDM. Black lives don't matter. Right wing people do. Laws are written for the later and against the former.
 
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Re: DeSantis’ anti-riot law didn’t apply as Cuba protesters shut down a Miami-Dade road.

Fri Jul 16, 2021 12:53 pm

frmrCapCadet wrote:
simple BLDM. Black lives don't matter. Right wing people do. Laws are written for the later and against the former.



Critical Race Theory.....Ta Dah.
 
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Re: DeSantis’ anti-riot law didn’t apply as Cuba protesters shut down a Miami-Dade road.

Fri Jul 16, 2021 4:20 pm

Should have been arrested.
I get the peaceful, no looting or burning behavior gave them an advantage but there should be no break in this case.
We need laws to be laws not tool for agendas of activist lawyers/judges. Goes all ways BTW so don’t give me “cause republicans” / “cause democrats”.
 
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Re: DeSantis’ anti-riot law didn’t apply as Cuba protesters shut down a Miami-Dade road.

Fri Jul 16, 2021 4:35 pm

They should be arrested, it doesn't matter if they were peaceful or not.
 
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Re: DeSantis’ anti-riot law didn’t apply as Cuba protesters shut down a Miami-Dade road.

Fri Jul 16, 2021 4:41 pm

extender wrote:
They should be arrested, it doesn't matter if they were peaceful or not.



Why?

Police officer's discretion. Or do you not back the blue?
 
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Re: DeSantis’ anti-riot law didn’t apply as Cuba protesters shut down a Miami-Dade road.

Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:56 pm

B717fan wrote:
It's only okay if white republicans do it. /sarcasm.


No sarcasm needed.

This was the intention of laws like this to enforce against the left and the issues they protest about.

This is precisely why organizations like the ACLU will defend someone like Alex Jones.

There was a very good discussion Joe Rogan had with Ira Glasser who was a former director of the ACLU and the made the case quite eloquently that any regulation of speech will be used to attack the opposition of who is in power.

Podcast was in January or February.

DeSantis supports these anti-Cuba protests so this is ok but BLM isn't. I hope this goes to the supreme court in Florida or nationally and gets tossed.
 
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Re: DeSantis’ anti-riot law didn’t apply as Cuba protesters shut down a Miami-Dade road.

Fri Jul 16, 2021 7:22 pm

Perspective. Mowing down people in front of you… because “you can”. No.

Being caught up in something through no fault of your own (maybe with your kids in the car with you) and people start messing with your car because you’re there… get outa my way. I’m going out of here. Not at speed but I’m not stopping because these folk think they have a right to stop/touch my car.

This is actually sensible law because it gives protections to people who are in a situation they didn’t cause. It will be tested in court if someone does get hurt.
 
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Re: DeSantis’ anti-riot law didn’t apply as Cuba protesters shut down a Miami-Dade road.

Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:24 am

frmrCapCadet wrote:
Critical Racial Theory applies!


Haha indeed it does.
 
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Re: DeSantis’ anti-riot law didn’t apply as Cuba protesters shut down a Miami-Dade road.

Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:27 am

chimborazo wrote:
Perspective. Mowing down people in front of you… because “you can”. No.

Being caught up in something through no fault of your own (maybe with your kids in the car with you) and people start messing with your car because you’re there… get outa my way. I’m going out of here. Not at speed but I’m not stopping because these folk think they have a right to stop/touch my car.

This is actually sensible law because it gives protections to people who are in a situation they didn’t cause. It will be tested in court if someone does get hurt.


Agreed. It is also not okay to be a bully and shut down a highway, intimidate people, and if anyone tries to pass, they become a “lone wolf terrorist.” There needs to be clarity on who is liable for injuries and deaths, and the protesters should bear that liability.
 
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Re: DeSantis’ anti-riot law didn’t apply as Cuba protesters shut down a Miami-Dade road.

Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:53 am

RightRudder wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
RightRudder wrote:
Why should the federalist waist there time on a Cuban-American protest? No violence. Simple


What are 'the federalist'? :psst:


The federal government. Just referring to the federalist papers and the "faction" clause. Specifically, Federalist No. 10.

What does the federal government have to do with a Florida state law?
 
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Re: DeSantis’ anti-riot law didn’t apply as Cuba protesters shut down a Miami-Dade road.

Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:49 pm

B717fan wrote:
It's only okay if white republicans do it. /sarcasm.

While the law, and the selective enforcement, are quite questionable, I don't think Cuban are white? Aren't they Latino?
 
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Re: DeSantis’ anti-riot law didn’t apply as Cuba protesters shut down a Miami-Dade road.

Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:59 pm

c933103 wrote:
B717fan wrote:
It's only okay if white republicans do it. /sarcasm.

While the law, and the selective enforcement, are quite questionable, I don't think Cuban are white? Aren't they Latino?


Who is 'white' is an interesting sociological issue. And those in the 'white' tribe vary across the US. Latinos can become white fairly easily, particularly 2nd and 3rd generations after coming to the US.
 
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Re: DeSantis’ anti-riot law didn’t apply as Cuba protesters shut down a Miami-Dade road.

Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:10 pm

MaverickM11 wrote:
RightRudder wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:

What are 'the federalist'? :psst:


The federal government. Just referring to the federalist papers and the "faction" clause. Specifically, Federalist No. 10.

What does the federal government have to do with a Florida state law?


E Pluribus Unum... Federal law supersedes State law. The federalist papers (No. 10) were drawn up to prevent riots and violence in a protest. This specific Cuban-American protest in Florida, does not spawn violence or destruction.
 
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Re: DeSantis’ anti-riot law didn’t apply as Cuba protesters shut down a Miami-Dade road.

Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:24 pm

To be fair, the DeSantis law is being applied in Tampa with the arrest of two protestors blocking Interstate 275 and Dale Mabry Highway, which is a major interchange in the Tampa Bay metro area.

https://wsvn.com/news/local/2-men-near- ... a-protest/

Thankfully, no protestors have been ran over which is now permitted under this law.
 
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Re: DeSantis’ anti-riot law didn’t apply as Cuba protesters shut down a Miami-Dade road.

Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:34 pm

[quote="phatfarmlines"]To be fair, the DeSantis law is being applied in Tampa with the arrest of two protestors blocking Interstate 275 and Dale Mabry Highway, which is a major interchange in the Tampa Bay metro area.

https://wsvn.com/news/local/2-men-near- ... a-protest/

Good! That is why the law was ratified. To prevent a riot.

Again, These Cuban-American protests are not expected to escalate into violence and riots. Armenian-American past protest is another example. The protest have not had a history of creating riots. They support a cause. BLM for example, support a demand.

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