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20 years ago............. 9/11

Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:48 pm

My apologies if this has already been posted, but I really feel like sharing this. It's a very touching story.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18lsxFcDrjo

Today in class, my ELA teacher showed us this above video. Suddenly, I remembered that tomorrow will be the 20th anniversary of that day. In fact, the teacher spent most of our class today discussing 9/11/01. She was a college student at the time and when she heard the news of the first plane going down, she nearly was paralyzed with shock. In fact, she (and other students) told their professor to turn the TV on so they can listen to the news. However, he said "Planes crash into buildings everyday, we're having class." That was, until another person came into the classroom and announced what was really going on. Everybody left for the street in a scramble and had their phones on them, according to what my teacher said. She called her mom, who was almost in tears. On Sept 11, 2011, she even took her son to a memorial where US flags were planted for every soul that was killed that day.

Original Anet thread on this (for extra reading)
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The class continued like this, and we all shared information that we knew about 9/11. One student said that on UA93 I believe it was, that when the hijackers stormed the cockpit, they wanted to crash into the capitol or someplace similar, but then one person got up and said something along the lines of "Come on fellow Americans, let's fight." I told the class that there was, at the time, speculation of a DL flight leaving ATL to be hijacked and crashed into CNN headquarters. Another person talked about the whole story of Betty Ong and how she helped relay the message quickly to people on the ground. We continued to trade stories/things we knew and I was so happy to find that our generation cares about what happened on that day. I thought as a way to honor those people that I start this thread for people who were there, people who were impacted, and even kids in our generation who want to learn more of that day to simply converse. We all have our stories, our knowledge, our opinions, our questions about that day. I figure maybe this could be the one thread where people don't hesitate to answer someone else. This must be the one thing that could unite us all.

I will also be going on a fast tomorrow so I can participate in remembering these people who have died for us.

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Re: 20 years ago............. 9/11

Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:30 pm

Hard to believe it has been 20 years. I have so many memories from that day. Working at a country club we had many people that were there. 2 didn't make it. One had three kids under 6 years old. I had to escort his wife around to get his stuff. At one point his kids just sat there with blank looks on their faces.

By the time the pentagon got hit all the wives were in the same room as me watching on TV and all broke down crying. Then a guy who was able to drive out of the area as soon as the first plane hit arrived and told us a harrowing story.

You never forget.

I always plan on watching as much as the remembrance on TV and not doing much else.
 
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Re: 20 years ago............. 9/11

Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:57 pm

I remember being at work and wondering why all the screens seemed to be showing a 1970s skyscraper on fire movie. Then I noticed the news logo was a real logo...

One of my toughest, most stoic coworkers smashed his keyboard and just stated he had to go home. It turned out his best friend and cousin was working a contractor job to remodel offices above one of the plane crashes.

Another friend was in a panic. Her brother worked the floor above the first crash. It turned out his best man had visited, they went out drinking, and he was on a train 90 minutes late, nursing a bad hangover, heading in when the first plane hit. The train reversed course, it never made it to the station.

One of my Aunts was babysitting two couples kids who did a double date to the observation deck. The moms did a different side trip, the fathers perished. But the moms didn't have cell phones (they were just getting popular then) and had to walk 70 blocks after spending hours trying to get some information on their husbands.

I was still at Pratt & Whitney in Connecticut back then. It really impacted that area. Everyone knew someone lost. I remember the 212 area code phones were impossible to reach for days as everyone wanted to verify loved ones were alive.

"Where were you when the world stopped turning?" It felt like that then.

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Re: 20 years ago............. 9/11

Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:54 pm

It doesn’t feel like 20 years to me...more like a few months. Conversations with people that day, reactions by people that day, concern for friends and loved ones, palpable fear and spreading panic, even mundane stuff like how we felt forcing ourselves to eat while glued to the news - all are still crystal clear.

It was before 6 on the west coast and my brother barged into my room saying I had to see what was on TV. I heard someone tell ABC’s Charlie Gibson that people were talking about a prop plane, and I told my brother ‘there’s no way that gash is from anything that small’ - a few minutes later we knew things would never be the same.

I will watch the rememberances, victim interviews, and clips from the street that day like I do every year.
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Re: 20 years ago............. 9/11

Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:00 am

I hadn't watched or listened to any news before going in to work on 9/11. When I got to my work station that morning, which was adjacent to other other work stations, one of my co-workers, a female, said matter-of-factly "Did you hear, a plane has crashed into the World Trade Center...?"

I didn't think much of it. Why... because she didn't say a Jumbo Jet had crashed into the World Trade Center.
 
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Re: 20 years ago............. 9/11

Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:18 am

We had just finished watching Buffy when the late news came on (10.30pm 11 Sept in Sydney being 8.30am 9/11 in NYC). The reporting was showing live footage and we assumed it was a horrible light aircraft accident, or at least a light aircraft only. I don't recall seeing the second plane, although my wife says she did.

Anyways, we went to bed, and turned on the news in the morning, only to find that the Towers had collapsed overnight. I was watching a docu the other night which used people's footage form NYC on the day, and ther look on the face of one wamn as the second plane hit was exactly the same as mine on hearing of the collapse - I collapsed on the floor.

We headed into the office a daze, not knowing whether our city would also be attacked. My wife flew to MEL the next day on Ansett, only for that airline to fail while she was there. Thankfully for us QF switched its trapped 747s onto domestic ops to pick up the stranded Ansett passengers.
 
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Re: 20 years ago............. 9/11

Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:20 am

It's always hard to read the archived topic from 9/11 here. Amazing to have something like that frozen in time.

I was a freshman in high school. I was in-between 1st and 2nd period. In the hall, I heard someone mention something about a plane hitting the World Trade Center, which sounded weird; I wondered if it was something like that B-24 that hit the Empire State Building in 1945. My second period was Business. As I walked into the room, I noticed the TV was on, which was unusual. I wasn't in the room for more than 20 seconds probably when the second plane hit. We kept watching after what should've been the start of class. Another kid, who I remember as kind of a dolt, started laughing when he saw people jumping from the tower. I don't really know why, but I ended up punching him in the back. The teacher saw it and didn't say anything.

We shut the TV off when one of the towers came down, but we really couldn't accomplish anything in class. I remember 3rd period was Spanish and we just watched the news the whole time. I don't remember what 4th period was, but I'm sure we watched TV in that, too.

For the next 3 years on 9/11 I put photos on my locker of the 4 planes (from A.net), the flag that was raised over the rubble of the World Trade Center, and the flag on the Pentagon.
 
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Re: 20 years ago............. 9/11

Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:22 am

In the North Tower, all stairwells in the impact zone were blocked, so there were no survivors at the impact zone or higher. In the South Tower, one stairwell remained intact in the impact zone, so there were some survivors at or above the impact zone.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.abc.ne ... /100436856
 
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Re: 20 years ago............. 9/11

Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:27 am

ArchGuy1 wrote:
In the North Tower, all stairwells in the impact zone were blocked, so there were no survivors at the impact zone or higher. In the South Tower, one stairwell remained intact in the impact zone, so there were some survivors at or above the impact zone.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.abc.ne ... /100436856


I think everyone here knows those facts. More relevant to the thread is - what do you remember from that day?
 
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Re: 20 years ago............. 9/11

Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:30 am

Aaron747 wrote:
ArchGuy1 wrote:
In the North Tower, all stairwells in the impact zone were blocked, so there were no survivors at the impact zone or higher. In the South Tower, one stairwell remained intact in the impact zone, so there were some survivors at or above the impact zone.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.abc.ne ... /100436856


I think everyone here knows those facts. More relevant to the thread is - what do you remember from that day?



Whether everyone 'knows' that or not should not be discriminated against, as I said in my original post. The reason I created this thread is to not only tell your experiences but to also share facts/opinions. I didn't create this thread to be one of those typical Side A vs Side B debate, rather, it is more unifying for users than that.
 
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Re: 20 years ago............. 9/11

Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:37 am

Boeing757100 wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
ArchGuy1 wrote:
In the North Tower, all stairwells in the impact zone were blocked, so there were no survivors at the impact zone or higher. In the South Tower, one stairwell remained intact in the impact zone, so there were some survivors at or above the impact zone.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.abc.ne ... /100436856


I think everyone here knows those facts. More relevant to the thread is - what do you remember from that day?



Whether everyone 'knows' that or not should not be discriminated against, as I said in my original post. The reason I created this thread is to not only tell your experiences but to also share facts/opinions. I didn't create this thread to be one of those typical Side A vs Side B debate, rather, it is more unifying for users than that.


I was just encouraging him to share something more personal, but I take your point and stand corrected. :smile:
 
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Re: 20 years ago............. 9/11

Sat Sep 11, 2021 5:22 am

It was my first day of preschool. After getting home and seeing it on TV I innocently asked my parents, "why do they keep showing the plane hitting the building?"

We lost a neighbor in the WTC. For another family friend, it was her first day on the job as an NYPD officer.

After the NYC September 11 Memorial opened, I walked up to a seemingly random spot on the North Tower pool and saw my neighbor's name right there. Didn't have to even spend time searching for it.

Over the past day I had the honor of performing Taps at two 9/11 ceremonies. It isn't easy.
 
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Sat Sep 11, 2021 5:48 am

I was in 3rd grade and didn't find out about it until my brother who was in 8th grade came home and told me that airplanes ran in to the twin towers. We turned on the TV and spent too long trying to find CNN and we just had only that on all day. Then my mom came home from telling COEX pilots that their training was "put on hold". I remember her being composed but looking back on it she was uneasy. Being 8, I knew something bad had happened but couldn't fathom it and it's effects, well, because 8 year olds just can't understand big things like that in the moment.

I remember a thread on here about a year ago saying that 9/11 was the single event that stole my generations innocence. For my parents it was JFK, for my grandparents it was Pearl Harbor, for Gen X I'd probably say the Challenger disaster. Very rare is it for a cataclysmic event that changes history ever happens, but when it does you have these kinds of threads asking about your recollection of that moment. History tends to change more slowly, that day it was a hard 90° turn spurred by a nuclear explosion that was set off by a 4 year old on meth.
 
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Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:10 am

Even after 20 years, this 'Sad Episode' in the human history still lingers in my mind. I remember every moment that day from hearing this news to watch it live on CNN was unbelievable to say the least.

It all started at 7pm in Bangalore, where I'm from, when my Dad broke this news of a 'Few Airplanes Crashing Into The Buildings In New York'. When I heard that, I felt he was joking. Because you are talking about 'The United States' where no one can dare think of attacking that country on their own soil.

But nevertheless I immediately wanted to switch on the news channel to find out if it was true. I had to wait for an hour or so coz that time the 'Lights Were Out'.

And when the power came back, I tuned into CNN and continously watched the news unfolding. I was a 'College Student' back then. I couldn't concentrate on my studies that entire week.

Because this attack really 'Changed People's Life All Over The World', not just for the people of the United States alone.

Post 9/11 attack, it became very difficult for people from Asia and the Middle East that wanted to have a 'Better Life' in the US. Those people that mean no harm or terror to anyone in this world.

Those terrorists of 9/11 had really changed the 'World For The Worse'. And sadly, even today they are 'Winning In Afghanistan And Other Places' in the world.
 
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Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:25 am

aerosreenivas wrote:
Even after 20 years, this 'Sad Episode' in the human history still lingers in my mind. I remember every moment that day from hearing this news to watch it live on CNN was unbelievable to say the least.

It all started at 7pm in Bangalore, where I'm from, when my Dad broke this news of a 'Few Airplanes Crashing Into The Buildings In New York'. When I heard that, I felt he was joking. Because you are talking about 'The United States' where no one can dare think of attacking that country on their own soil.

But nevertheless I immediately wanted to switch on the news channel to find out if it was true. I had to wait for an hour or so coz that time the 'Lights Were Out'.

And when the power came back, I tuned into CNN and continously watched the news unfolding. I was a 'College Student' back then. I couldn't concentrate on my studies that entire week.

Because this attack really 'Changed People's Life All Over The World', not just for the people of the United States alone.

Post 9/11 attack, it became very difficult for people from Asia and the Middle East that wanted to have a 'Better Life' in the US. Those people that mean no harm or terror to anyone in this world.

Those terrorists of 9/11 had really changed the 'World For The Worse'. And sadly, even today they are 'Winning In Afghanistan And Other Places' in the world.


These perspectives from outside the US are really good for us to hear, thank you.

One thing that makes me so angry still about the pervasive conspiracy theories about this day in the US is they all stem from some kind of anti-government or antisemitic or whatever basis, and no matter what drives the belief, these people cannot be reached. Despite the fact millions around the world watched what was happening live and instantly understood the meaning of the day...I had colleagues and acquaintances over the years who tried to convince me that reputable scientists were onto the 'real story' and that 'high school physics' could explain what we saw wasn't what actually happened. I used to engage but now just roll my eyes and file such people into the 'lost' category.
 
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Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:46 am

It was late night here in Australia, I was watching The West Wing when a newsflash came on about 'a light plane' hitting one of the WTC towers. It was followed only a few minutes later by another newsflash, this time with live pictures of the North Tower, and it was clear that something much bigger than a Cessna had flown into it. And then came the 2nd plane..... And then the towers started to collapse, it was like watching something out of a Tom Clancy novel & a bad B movie at the same time for the rest of the night.... Not much sleep was had that night, the networks were running coverage from the US networks, and I was switching between CNN & Fox News on cable. The White House evacuation was especially chilling, with the recorded alert 'evacuate the White House'.... Things were very subdued at the office the next day, one colleague had a family friend who worked in one of the towers. It wasn't until the afternoon that his daughter had managed to contact the friend, who was thankfully OK - she got out of the subway to see the smoke coming out of the North Tower (she worked in the South Tower), and continued walking, when the 2nd plane hit.....

The PM at the time (John Howard) was in DC at the time, and was evacuated to a secure bunker under the Australian Embassy after the Pentagon was hit. His wife & son, who were out sightseeing, were literally dragged off the street & were also evacuated to the Embassy.

https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-ne ... 6bffb1d1a9
 
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Re: 20 years ago............. 9/11

Sat Sep 11, 2021 11:07 am

Aaron747 wrote:
Boeing757100 wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:

I think everyone here knows those facts. More relevant to the thread is - what do you remember from that day?



Whether everyone 'knows' that or not should not be discriminated against, as I said in my original post. The reason I created this thread is to not only tell your experiences but to also share facts/opinions. I didn't create this thread to be one of those typical Side A vs Side B debate, rather, it is more unifying for users than that.


I was just encouraging him to share something more personal, but I take your point and stand corrected. :smile:



It's all good. Thought I'd just reiterate the statement again. Sorry if it sounded offensive.
 
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Sat Sep 11, 2021 11:09 am

At the time, I was in Uzbekistan, in a hotel full of western tourists. I was sitting next to the wife of an American diplomat, having supper. I have lived in the UK all my life. We as tourists were all in shock, but the local employees seemed to have divided sympathies. It's worth noting that Uzbekistan wasn't exactly best buddies with the Taliban in 2001.

I am not sure that Americans will want to know what the locals said at the time
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Sat Sep 11, 2021 11:09 am

melpax wrote:
It was late night here in Australia, I was watching The West Wing when a newsflash came on about 'a light plane' hitting one of the WTC towers. It was followed only a few minutes later by another newsflash, this time with live pictures of the North Tower, and it was clear that something much bigger than a Cessna had flown into it. And then came the 2nd plane..... And then the towers started to collapse, it was like watching something out of a Tom Clancy novel & a bad B movie at the same time for the rest of the night.... Not much sleep was had that night, the networks were running coverage from the US networks, and I was switching between CNN & Fox News on cable. The White House evacuation was especially chilling, with the recorded alert 'evacuate the White House'.... Things were very subdued at the office the next day, one colleague had a family friend who worked in one of the towers. It wasn't until the afternoon that his daughter had managed to contact the friend, who was thankfully OK - she got out of the subway to see the smoke coming out of the North Tower (she worked in the South Tower), and continued walking, when the 2nd plane hit.....

The PM at the time (John Howard) was in DC at the time, and was evacuated to a secure bunker under the Australian Embassy after the Pentagon was hit. His wife & son, who were out sightseeing, were literally dragged off the street & were also evacuated to the Embassy.

https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-ne ... 6bffb1d1a9


What a coincidence, at that time in Malaysia I was watching an episode of The West Wing too. And almost the exact same thing happened to me - at first a ticker was released stating that a plane had crashed into the WTC, then the channel cut to a live broadcast of footage from New York at the precise moment of the towers' collapse.

I was just a toddler when the Berlin Wall fell, and just 5-6 years old when the Soviet Union fell, so this event was the first world changing event that I witnessed. Looking back, I can safely say that September 11, 2001 was the day that the innocence of the 1990s ended.
 
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Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:48 pm

I was about to start the Wing scheduling meeting when the Wing/CC walked and we are at war. I had a C5 in Travis which a day later brought a California S&R team to EWR. My brother was in the Pentagon a few hundred feet from the impact. Took him days to get home on a DOE plane.
 
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Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:27 pm

As I post this (10:28 AM) eastern, this shows that exactly 20 years ago, to the minute, that the North Tower collapsed.

#NeverForget
 
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Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:34 pm

I was an RJ captain back then. Driving to the airport to sit ready reserve when I got a call from a friend about "something going on in NY". By the time I got to the crew room, everything had been grounded.
 
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Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:34 pm

I was at the end of university at the time. When the news broke, I was at Eindhoven airport, around 2/3 pm I guess. A friend of mine gave me a call and broke the news. I didn't believe him at first, later I was heading back home and the mood on the train was quite strange, notably more reserved. Arriving back home, I watched the news till late that night switching back and forth from CNN and Dutch channels. So quite an impact here too.
 
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Sat Sep 11, 2021 4:49 pm

Was in my very early 30s. I'd taken a couple of years off from the "corporate" world and was teaching waterskiing on a lake in the UK. Early afternoon, message comes across to me on the radio to come up to the clubhouse. Was hard to believe the TV coverage we saw.

I learned a couple of years later that a friend of mine from school was among those killed in the north tower. I was lucky enough to visit the memorial at ground zero very shortly after it opened. His name sits in a prominent position, an eternal reminder of an amazing man and a life lost among thousands of others.

I remember thinking at the time that the US was unlikely capable of creating a memorial that wasn't gaudy, commercialised and over the top. This was exacerbated when I discovered all the tickets during my stay in NY were sold out, but I could get a ticket for pretty much any time if I booked it as part of a Hudson river cruise for about 5 times the price. I was mostly wrong though, the memorial was stunning, moving, peaceful.... perfect.
 
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Sat Sep 11, 2021 5:53 pm

Aaron747 wrote:
One thing that makes me so angry still about the pervasive conspiracy theories about this day in the US is they all stem from some kind of anti-government or antisemitic or whatever basis, and no matter what drives the belief, these people cannot be reached. Despite the fact millions around the world watched what was happening live and instantly understood the meaning of the day...I had colleagues and acquaintances over the years who tried to convince me that reputable scientists were onto the 'real story' and that 'high school physics' could explain what we saw wasn't what actually happened. I used to engage but now just roll my eyes and file such people into the 'lost' category.


So please, don't even bring that up in this thread. This is about 9/11 and not about theories. Please!!
 
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Sat Sep 11, 2021 6:06 pm

I was living in Northern California at the time and remember that day being oddly dark and cloudy for that time of year. My grandmother in Michigan called our home phone early in the morning as it was happening telling us to turn on the news. I was a typical teenager and was convinced her and mom were overreacting and paid little attention to it at first. It wasn’t until we were on the way to school that I noticed every single radio station was covering the story. Once at school, we basically watched CBS the entire day - school wasn’t cancelled. That night was the first time I ever voluntarily watched the nightly news with mom and dad.
 
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Sat Sep 11, 2021 7:02 pm

On a perfect beautiful Saturday, I live about 20 miles northwest of the Yankee Air Museum and got to see the Yankee Lady B17 fly over our apartment complex giving rides numerous times today. It was peaceful
 
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Sat Sep 11, 2021 8:30 pm

I saw a small town fire dept raising their ladder truck high on a highway overpass this morning with a US flag on top. It seemed the full company of the fire dept was on hand in uniform.

9/11 was a day of bravery and professionalism by the fire and police who responded, as well as common folk, air crews, ATC, US military, and others who were asked to do the impossible.
 
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Sat Sep 11, 2021 8:30 pm

DIRECTFLT wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
One thing that makes me so angry still about the pervasive conspiracy theories about this day in the US is they all stem from some kind of anti-government or antisemitic or whatever basis, and no matter what drives the belief, these people cannot be reached. Despite the fact millions around the world watched what was happening live and instantly understood the meaning of the day...I had colleagues and acquaintances over the years who tried to convince me that reputable scientists were onto the 'real story' and that 'high school physics' could explain what we saw wasn't what actually happened. I used to engage but now just roll my eyes and file such people into the 'lost' category.


So please, don't even bring that up in this thread. This is about 9/11 and not about theories. Please!!


It has been part of the experience for some of us over the years, unfortunately. I still have a coworker who’s in that camp so it’s relevant to the thread because it comes up every year.
 
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Sat Sep 11, 2021 9:30 pm

I had visited the towers only a month or so previously. It felt very raw to me, even from a few thousand kilometers away. I was at a band rehearsal when my dad called and said something about a 737 hitting the WTC. Found the nearest TV and stayed there for the day.
I was (and is) a leftist pro-palestinian. The first rumors was it was a palestinian organization.

Didn’t matter.

I was ready for war. I was ready to move overseas and join the american millitary.
After the initial hours watching TV I stayed in bed for 3 days. The shock was heavy. I was physically ill. I googled (yahooed? Alta Vistaed?) the options for joining the fight.
Luckily I cooled down.
The USA had 99.99% of the world population on their side after this happened.
GWBs and the american un-nuanced and extreme stance turned the table pretty quickly.
I had family (also «anti-american» leftist socialists until 11/9)fighting with the coallition in Afghanistan from pretty early on. Both of them forward air-controllers. They told me it would take 20 years and end without anything being achieved except making missile salesmen and arms dealers rich.
They are both arms dealers now.
Not kidding.

A few years later I had a terror attack bomb going of a few hundred meters from my house. Didn’t hit me remotely as much as those first few hours in fro t of the TV on 11/9.
 
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Re: 20 years ago............. 9/11

Sat Sep 11, 2021 11:38 pm

Funny how historic events sear the most trivial things into your memory. I was working at the time and was on a particularly difficult job coming up to 2pm, which is New York time +5, so I didn't hear the text message coming though from one of my mates. I took the phone out of my pocket to check the time, and noticed the text, telling me that a plane had crashed into the World Trade Centre. "Oh gosh", I thought, and immediately dismissed it, assuming it was something like the small plane that had crashed into the Empire State Building decades before. I was on top of things just prior to my finishing at 2:30 and this time did hear another message coming in from the same mate telling me that a second plane had crashed into the WTC. That was a shock, and I knew immediately something very serious was going on. Driving home the normal radio programming had been cleared, and there was a live interview with a well-known Irish journalist living in New York. Ten minutes later, just as I parked the car and was about to turn-off the ignition, news came through that another plane had just crashed into the Pentagon. That was a WTF moment, for sure.

I don't have a TV and there was nowhere on the internet (that I knew of) where I could see any footage, so I brought the radio into the garden and continued clearing ivy from a wall, which I had started the previous day. The news was coming through fast and furiously, and I rememer the journalist saying, in a very deadpan voice, that he had just seen someone jumping from one of the towers. The 3 o'clock news came on, and I remember the RTE newsreader, saying in their usual understated and undramatic style, that six people had been confirmed dead after two planes had crashed into the WTC in New York. Even at that stage it was obvious that it was a ridiculous headline and I wondered what they were thinking of in there. Then, back to the live coverage, the journalist was still on the line, and said that he had just seen one of the towers collapse. I remember then asking myself what the date it was, knowing that it would go into the history books.

Shortly afterwards my neighbour arrived home, and hearing the radio blaring in the garden, asked me what was going on. We went into her house to watch TV, and that's when I first saw the shocking images of the planes exploding through the buildings. We were glued to the TV for some time after that, and later in the evening I drove out to some relatives to watch some more. The roads were practically empty, and, unusually, lights were blazing, upstairs and down, in houses all along the way. Again we watched the footage, and I remember my aunt having to turn away from the TV as the footage of one of the planes crashing into the buildings was shown again. We talked, and tried to make sense of it all.

Driving home later was eerie and surreal, with the streets almost devoid of people and traffic, apart from a lone drunk leaving a pub and staggering across the road in front of me.

A few years ago I finally got to visit New York and the memorial, which I thought was serene, and beautifully appropriate.

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Re: 20 years ago............. 9/11

Sat Sep 11, 2021 11:45 pm

I was in high school in DC, my dad worked on the hill. My family knew a lot of people who work in DC & NYC, still do. The experience was a bit different if you actually lived in NYC, DC, or NOVA.

Someone came in the classroom and turned on the TV and most of us including the teachers stood/sat there in shock. Parents came to pick up their children early. I made it home before the towers fell and sat glued to the TV all day and night...
 
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Re: 20 years ago............. 9/11

Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:11 am

I was in grad school at the time. I remember waking up that morning and turning on the morning news. They were discussing the plane that hit the pentagon. Still being half asleep, I assumed it was a light aircraft that lost control. Then, they panned to the smoldering Twin Towers and the gravity of the situation hit me. I was living at home then and remember going up to my parents room and telling them they needed to get up and see what was going on. Flight 93 hadn’t yet crashed in Shanksville, the Twin Towers were burning but still standing when I first tuned it. It was surreal to watch the rest of that day unfold on live TV.

I remember calling a friend who had just moved to New York to see if she was ok. Then going to class where all anyone could do was discuss what had unfolded.

A few years ago, I finally took a trip to New York and visited the memorial site and the museum. I highly recommend both. I remember standing looking at the pool where the North Tower once stood, and looking across at the other pool. Having never seen the towers in person, It’s somehow tough to fathom that two enormous towers once stood in that spot.
 
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Re: 20 years ago............. 9/11

Sun Sep 12, 2021 3:49 am

I didn’t get to see the towers fall until over a week after they fell.

I was going over maintenance plans for some repair work that needed to be done aboard the destroyer of which I was a crew member.

After the second plane flew into the World Trade Center, the radioman walked into the wardroom and announced he had flash precedence message traffic from the Pentagon, set THREATCON DELTA. Basically we just went to war.

What happened next was a blur, but I emptied out my armory, where we kept all of the ships weapons. We mounted .50cal machine guns and ammo belts all over the ship. The one thing I specifically remember since all 50 of my m14 rifles and .45 cal. pistols I owned were issued to sailors and sentries on the pier, was worrying about which sailor was going to have an accidental discharge.

in normal times, we aren’t allowed to use air search radars in port because it messes up ATC radars, civilian over the air TV signals, and cordless telephones… but now all of our air search radars were up and radiating, we were pinging away at the harbor with sonar set at high power.

By the afternoon, we were making preparations to get underway. NORAD didn’t have good low altitude radar coverage off the US coast, the Navy was going to fill in the gaps in radar coverage but putting ships in the holes in coverage.

one by one, ships got underway and slipped out to sea to assume assigned radar picket stations in the Pacific, Atlantic, and Gulf of Mexico.

Getting underway was surreal. Normally there would be families to see us off. But none of that today just linehandlers from other ships that hadn’t left yet and we’re waiting their turn to get underway. Every time you get underway you usually know about when you’d be coming back, Friday, next month, 6 months, But I was struck by the thought that we were getting underway but this one time on 9/11/2001 was the only time I got underway and I didn’t know when we were coming back.

I was relieved to recover all of my small arms back to the armory without any accidental discharges.

Normally we don’t load weapons inport, we load them at sea. Not today, CIWS mounts were uploaded.. The ring magazine for the 5 inch guns were loaded with 40 rounds HE-CVT. The missile launcher keys that normally stayed locked in my safe were issued out to bring the ships weapons to weapons posture 1.

Most of my attention was getting the ship’s combat system interfaced with NORAD so that our air search radars could feed NORADs southeast air defense sector otherwise known as Oak Grove.

We got underway. I had sat off the coast of Iraq and Kuwait for many months before monitoring the southern Iraq no fly zone. I never thought in my wildest dreams that I would be sitting off my own coastline doing the same thing monitoring the US oceanic airspace and stopping cargo shipping coming out and going into US ports and inspecting cargo manifests, just like I did with cargo ships coming out of Iraq.

Day after day it was like ground hog day. Things got interesting the day the national airspace system reopened. The horde of helicopters like locusts swarmed from the US coast heading out to the oil rigs that had been deprived of resupply. I think those guys were happy to see their helicopters.

After a few more days, NORAD didn’t need us anymore and our mission was done and back to port we went after a week at sea… to the relief of the crew. A lot of sailors had showed up on 9/11 expecting to going back home at knockoff and liberty call that afternoon. And so for a lot of sailors they only had what they wore to work that day when the ship got underway. There’s only so many times you can turn underwear inside out….

So a week after the twin towers fell, was the first time I saw the towers fall on a rerun.
 
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Re: 20 years ago............. 9/11

Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:20 am

I remember, it was a week after 9/11 before the Govt. released any overhead pictures of where the towers had fallen.
 
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Re: 20 years ago............. 9/11

Sun Sep 12, 2021 5:52 am

I remember the day like it was yesterday!

I was living in an LA suburb back then. On that day i was waiting for my roommate to return from a medical conference and then I had to leave to work. I wasn't watching TV news at the time so didn't know what happened. She called to tell me her flight had been diverted and I asked why? She screamed at me to switch on the TV and watch the news.

I did and life was never the same again!
 
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Re: 20 years ago............. 9/11

Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:11 am

DIRECTFLT wrote:
I remember, it was a week after 9/11 before the Govt. released any overhead pictures of where the towers had fallen.


That's because there was lingering smolder smoke afterward, and in any case, news choppers did get aerial footage. Some of the fires burned underground for months - you have to remember when the S&R operation was going, they couldn't use water, so the fires had a couple weeks to get going and find new oxygen pockets.
 
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Re: 20 years ago............. 9/11

Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:21 pm

Woodreau wrote:
I didn’t get to see the towers fall until over a week after they fell.

I was going over maintenance plans for some repair work that needed to be done aboard the destroyer of which I was a crew member.

After the second plane flew into the World Trade Center, the radioman walked into the wardroom and announced he had flash precedence message traffic from the Pentagon, set THREATCON DELTA. Basically we just went to war.

What happened next was a blur, but I emptied out my armory, where we kept all of the ships weapons. We mounted .50cal machine guns and ammo belts all over the ship. The one thing I specifically remember since all 50 of my m14 rifles and .45 cal. pistols I owned were issued to sailors and sentries on the pier, was worrying about which sailor was going to have an accidental discharge.

in normal times, we aren’t allowed to use air search radars in port because it messes up ATC radars, civilian over the air TV signals, and cordless telephones… but now all of our air search radars were up and radiating, we were pinging away at the harbor with sonar set at high power.

By the afternoon, we were making preparations to get underway. NORAD didn’t have good low altitude radar coverage off the US coast, the Navy was going to fill in the gaps in radar coverage but putting ships in the holes in coverage.

one by one, ships got underway and slipped out to sea to assume assigned radar picket stations in the Pacific, Atlantic, and Gulf of Mexico.

Getting underway was surreal. Normally there would be families to see us off. But none of that today just linehandlers from other ships that hadn’t left yet and we’re waiting their turn to get underway. Every time you get underway you usually know about when you’d be coming back, Friday, next month, 6 months, But I was struck by the thought that we were getting underway but this one time on 9/11/2001 was the only time I got underway and I didn’t know when we were coming back.

I was relieved to recover all of my small arms back to the armory without any accidental discharges.

Normally we don’t load weapons inport, we load them at sea. Not today, CIWS mounts were uploaded.. The ring magazine for the 5 inch guns were loaded with 40 rounds HE-CVT. The missile launcher keys that normally stayed locked in my safe were issued out to bring the ships weapons to weapons posture 1.

Most of my attention was getting the ship’s combat system interfaced with NORAD so that our air search radars could feed NORADs southeast air defense sector otherwise known as Oak Grove.

We got underway. I had sat off the coast of Iraq and Kuwait for many months before monitoring the southern Iraq no fly zone. I never thought in my wildest dreams that I would be sitting off my own coastline doing the same thing monitoring the US oceanic airspace and stopping cargo shipping coming out and going into US ports and inspecting cargo manifests, just like I did with cargo ships coming out of Iraq.

Day after day it was like ground hog day. Things got interesting the day the national airspace system reopened. The horde of helicopters like locusts swarmed from the US coast heading out to the oil rigs that had been deprived of resupply. I think those guys were happy to see their helicopters.

After a few more days, NORAD didn’t need us anymore and our mission was done and back to port we went after a week at sea… to the relief of the crew. A lot of sailors had showed up on 9/11 expecting to going back home at knockoff and liberty call that afternoon. And so for a lot of sailors they only had what they wore to work that day when the ship got underway. There’s only so many times you can turn underwear inside out….

So a week after the twin towers fell, was the first time I saw the towers fall on a rerun.

Thanks for the share. That's a really unique story (for me, at least), to hear how some of our armed forces responded to this. We always hear about the Air Force, but rarely how the Navy responded.
 
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Re: 20 years ago............. 9/11

Sun Sep 12, 2021 3:34 pm

Kind of hard to believe that exactly 20 years ago (Sept 12, 2001) the only planes roaming the friendly skies of the USA were the CAP C172s...

And according to a user in another thread, FL was actually the largest airline in the US for some time, after the US reopened its airspace.
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Re: 20 years ago............. 9/11

Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:27 pm

Were there CAP planes airborne? Every flight for the following 3-4 days needed at WAPTL number from NORAD and they weren’t just handed out, even military had to justify flying to them.
 
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Re: 20 years ago............. 9/11

Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:21 pm

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Were there CAP planes airborne? Every flight for the following 3-4 days needed at WAPTL number from NORAD and they weren’t just handed out, even military had to justify flying to them.


Yes. The first flight went up on 9/12, 20 years ago today. They had authority to fly, but it wasn't clearly communicated:

Though the photo mission had been authorized by national command authority in the White House, that word had not made it to New York City aviation authorities, and a city helicopter attempted to intercept the CAP Skyhawk and force it away. A somewhat lengthy radio conversation ensued, Ratis informing the city helicopter that they were on an authorized mission and intended to complete it, while the helicopter crew turned to air traffic control, requesting that ATC order the Cessna away. The controller responded that the CAP crew “had more authority” than ATC did, but still, the helicopter crew insisted.

“I finally said, ‘look, we’re staying here, we’re doing our mission, this is what we’re assigned to do,’” Ratis recalled. “’If you have a problem, take it up with the F–15s that are above us. They will convince you otherwise.’ With that, he peeled off and went away.”.


They returned to the airport from which they had launched at 5:28 p.m. and were met by local police and FAA officials, and “almost arrested at gunpoint,” Feldman recalled. Their authority for the mission and orders had not been clearly communicated to all concerned, but the uniformed CAP officers managed to convince the authorities that they had, in fact, been authorized.


https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all ... w-york-sky
 
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Re: 20 years ago............. 9/11

Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:42 pm

Aaron747 wrote:
DIRECTFLT wrote:
I remember, it was a week after 9/11 before the Govt. released any overhead pictures of where the towers had fallen.


That's because there was lingering smolder smoke afterward, and in any case, news choppers did get aerial footage. Some of the fires burned underground for months - you have to remember when the S&R operation was going, they couldn't use water, so the fires had a couple weeks to get going and find new oxygen pockets.


I don't think the Govt. was allowing News Choppers over the site for a week. But If you've got a link for that (ie news choppers over the site during the first week), I'd be interested.
 
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Re: 20 years ago............. 9/11

Sun Sep 12, 2021 10:21 pm

DIRECTFLT wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
DIRECTFLT wrote:
I remember, it was a week after 9/11 before the Govt. released any overhead pictures of where the towers had fallen.


That's because there was lingering smolder smoke afterward, and in any case, news choppers did get aerial footage. Some of the fires burned underground for months - you have to remember when the S&R operation was going, they couldn't use water, so the fires had a couple weeks to get going and find new oxygen pockets.


I don't think the Govt. was allowing News Choppers over the site for a week. But If you've got a link for that (ie news choppers over the site during the first week), I'd be interested.


I remember seeing footage at the time but not going to bother hunting that down. It doesn’t really matter when they were allowed over, yeah?
 
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Re: 20 years ago............. 9/11

Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:50 pm

I was on a golf course in the Algarve, Portugal. It was Gala Week and we'd sponsored a hole in one. I was handing out towels and golf balls with our logo on whatever tee it was as the players went past. The weather wasn't great, overcast and windy and no one was getting their balls anywhere near the pin. Around mid afternoon as the last player went through, the course director drove up and said something big had happened in New York but he didn't know what. I got back to our office which was in a shopping centre only 5 mins away, and everyone was crowding around the TVs. By then the second tower had fallen and it was obvious this was no accident. My wife's boss at the time was in NY, and had a meeting scheduled that morning at the WTC. There was an elevated level of panic before it was discovered his meeting had been cancelled beforehand.

The prize, by the way, was two first class tickets to New York.
 
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Re: 20 years ago............. 9/11

Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:27 pm

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I was on a golf course in the Algarve, Portugal. It was Gala Week and we'd sponsored a hole in one. I was handing out towels and golf balls with our logo on whatever tee it was as the players went past. The weather wasn't great, overcast and windy and no one was getting their balls anywhere near the pin. Around mid afternoon as the last player went through, the course director drove up and said something big had happened in New York but he didn't know what. I got back to our office which was in a shopping centre only 5 mins away, and everyone was crowding around the TVs. By then the second tower had fallen and it was obvious this was no accident. My wife's boss at the time was in NY, and had a meeting scheduled that morning at the WTC. There was an elevated level of panic before it was discovered his meeting had been cancelled beforehand.

The prize, by the way, was two first class tickets to New York.


The last part...wow. It’s still hard to imagine *not* having seen it all occur live on TV.
 
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Re: 20 years ago............. 9/11

Fri Sep 17, 2021 10:24 am

I'm surprised that nobody mentioned this thread which happened several months BEFORE September 11 -
viewtopic.php?t=60625

Did the FBI investigate this website because of this? I forgot how the story went.
 
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Re: 20 years ago............. 9/11

Fri Sep 17, 2021 1:00 pm

Hard to believe it was 20 years ago. Another non-US perspective:

While being a Brit and working in the UK, I was working for a large US global corporation, so we felt this probably more than most Brits. I returned to the office after lunch and the receptionist told us a plane had hit the WTC. My assumption was this would be a small Cessna-like plane. Mildly curious, we made our way to the staff restaurant which had a large TV always tuned to the news. The surprise of walking in there and seeing most of the office watching was one thing, but when we saw huge palls of smoke coming from both towers, I knew immediately that this was no accident.

We watched events unfolding for the rest of the afternoon before heading home. I stayed up until about 3am just watching all the reporting. It was almost as though I was in a trance. The next day the mood in the office was very sombre, even though none of us or the company had any direct involvement. Over the next few months we did learn of a few US based colleagues who lost friends or relatives that day.

Probably the definitive “Earth shattering” event of my lifetime.
 
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Re: 20 years ago............. 9/11

Fri Sep 17, 2021 1:49 pm

TheFlyingDisk wrote:
I'm surprised that nobody mentioned this thread which happened several months BEFORE September 11 -
viewtopic.php?t=60625

Did the FBI investigate this website because of this? I forgot how the story went.


This has been asked before, and recall the answer being that they did in fact track down the original poster, or that he actually contacted them, and they determined that it was a completely innocent hypothetical question.
 
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Re: 20 years ago............. 9/11

Mon Sep 20, 2021 6:55 am

TheFlyingDisk wrote:
I'm surprised that nobody mentioned this thread which happened several months BEFORE September 11 -
viewtopic.php?t=60625

Did the FBI investigate this website because of this? I forgot how the story went.


I seem to recall the OP of that thread stating the FBI did pay him a visit...
 
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Re: 20 years ago............. 9/11

Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:14 am

This was so long ago, but I remember it like it happened yesterday. I was working for Delta Airline and was at work when the plane crashed into the trade center. Obviously, I didn't know what had happened when I got a call from a customer asking if her husband's plane DL flight xxx had crashed into the world trade center.

I had no idea what she was talking about. I looked up the flight number and told her, no it has safely landed.
Then the next phone call was from a local reporter asking if any of our planes had crashed. I gave her the telephone that we give the media At this point. I see someone in management walking down the hall. I call her over, and say, what in the world is going on. She tells me to get off the phone and go to the break room and I will see.


long story short, it was a nightmare for the rest of the day. They closed the air space. passengers were scrambling to rebook. I had to call the red cross, to set up units at the airports, to set up food and shelter. for all the passengers that were stranded. I did that almost all day long. Until I reached someone at the red cross, who decided to set up facilities at all the airports.


I got home and for the first time, I was able to watch what had transpired that day.

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