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Aesma wrote:Well Europe isn't exactly opening up right now, rather closing down.
c933103 wrote:That has very little to do with Covid.North Korea is more closed than China right now
johns624 wrote:c933103 wrote:That has very little to do with Covid.North Korea is more closed than China right now
meecrob wrote:"according to reports"
Like where is this from? Some industry magazine like "Smuggler's Weekly?"
meecrob wrote:Also, sorry this is a bit of a throwaway joke, but is it really smuggling if its between China and North Korea? Like they don't really follow laws anyways...
Derico wrote:Well here comes the super mutant, so expect worldwide chaos in the 90 days as everyone slams borders shuts once again as the mutant is confirmed in country after country.
I think it's about time for a Pyramid style Pharaoh's project (or Marshall Plan), to find a lasting effective vaccine or therapeutic which diminishes COVID to the status of a runny nose. We cannot go on like this anymore, with total world disruption every time a new mutant emerges. Get ALL the nations of the world to invest at least 3% of GDP, and make all companies on Earth commit 5% of their profits, and have all citizens of the planet pay an emergency pandemic tax. Get all that money and bring the best scientists in the field (both in private companies, public government agencies, or academia), from all over the planet temporarily under ONE roof and get the thing done. Make the vaccine and medicine, manufacture enough of it to deliver to all nations in a very short time (even if it means delaying for a time), and cut the head of the snake.
Cerecl wrote:Strictly speaking Chinese borders are not completely shut
It is possible for people with full vaccination status, negative COVID-PCR and IgM to go to China. They will need to quarantine for at least 14 days and be subjected to multiple COVID-19 tests during this period.
Not feasible for most tourists, of course, but at least there is a way.
Derico wrote:Well here comes the super mutant, so expect worldwide chaos in the 90 days as everyone slams borders shuts once again as the mutant is confirmed in country after country.
I think it's about time for a Pyramid style Pharaoh's project (or Marshall Plan), to find a lasting effective vaccine or therapeutic which diminishes COVID to the status of a runny nose. We cannot go on like this anymore, with total world disruption every time a new mutant emerges. Get ALL the nations of the world to invest at least 3% of GDP, and make all companies on Earth commit 5% of their profits, and have all citizens of the planet pay an emergency pandemic tax. Get all that money and bring the best scientists in the field (both in private companies, public government agencies, or academia), from all over the planet temporarily under ONE roof and get the thing done. Make the vaccine and medicine, manufacture enough of it to deliver to all nations in a very short time (even if it means delaying for a time), and cut the head of the snake.
Aesma wrote:Derico wrote:Well here comes the super mutant, so expect worldwide chaos in the 90 days as everyone slams borders shuts once again as the mutant is confirmed in country after country.
I think it's about time for a Pyramid style Pharaoh's project (or Marshall Plan), to find a lasting effective vaccine or therapeutic which diminishes COVID to the status of a runny nose. We cannot go on like this anymore, with total world disruption every time a new mutant emerges. Get ALL the nations of the world to invest at least 3% of GDP, and make all companies on Earth commit 5% of their profits, and have all citizens of the planet pay an emergency pandemic tax. Get all that money and bring the best scientists in the field (both in private companies, public government agencies, or academia), from all over the planet temporarily under ONE roof and get the thing done. Make the vaccine and medicine, manufacture enough of it to deliver to all nations in a very short time (even if it means delaying for a time), and cut the head of the snake.
South Africans are vaccinated to the tune of 24% only, so what's happening is not really surprising.
I agree with the idea to do more, the problem is it might start to look a bit ugly. In my own country where the government has been quite successful with the carrot and stick approach (well the carrot is "normal life", and the stick is being banned from restaurants and other places), there are still pockets of resistance, even amongst the most vulnerable. Right now there are riots with shots fired on cops (something that never happens) in Martinique and Guadeloupe, where they're a lot less vaccinated, and the virus killed many over the summer, but they still want to live as if there was no pandemic.
Many poor countries got free vaccines but proved unable or unwilling to administer them. Should we invade countries with low vaccination rates to enforce a mandatory vaccine, something we don't even do in our own backyard ?