My point is still that US-quiet is not the same as EU-quiet.
According to a quick google search Columbia, Maryland is the safest US city. With a population of just over 100K they saw in 2019 (pre-covid) 8 murders, 57 rapes and 167 robberies.https://www.howardcountymd.gov/sites/de ... Annual.pdf
My wife's hometown of Castellón at 170K (which is as average as you can get) has had 1 single murder, 2 rapes and 68 robberies on the same year.
Car theft? 5 times higher, Burglary and theft? between 3 and 4 times higher numbers, and that isn't even accounting for the population difference (70% higher)
You may consider those figures "quiet enough", but even those are higher for the standards of other Western countries.
Your point is wrong. My city, Livonia, MI, is a suburb of Detroit. Our eastern boundary is less than 3 miles from Detroit. Our population is 95,000 people, spread over 36 square miles. During 2020, we had 0 murders, 26 rapes and 12 robberies. I'd say we stack up pretty well with your Spanish example. What is your source for Columbia, MD being the safest city? https://www.areavibes.com/livonia-mi/crime/
I said a quick google search, which yielded this link as the first result:https://www.usnews.com/news/cities/slid ... a?slide=11
Why they didn't put Livonia up there? Who knows, maybe they put the threshold at 100K
The numbers still check, though. 13x rapes, 2,5x car theft, 2,5x assault.... without accounting for 70% population difference and comparing an average european, much denser city with sprawl.
The US rural murder rate (5/100K according to this link https://law.jrank.org/pages/2222/Urban- ... areas.html
) is still 7 times that of the overall rate for Spain, which, again, has it's own problematic areas that eat up most of the crime and murder rate (gangs, drug dealing.... that's also a thing over here).