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NIKV69 wrote:The MSM wanter her to be the next Steve Jobs but wasn't meant to be. Bye Felicia.
NIKV69 wrote:It's comical l that I also got the feeling CNN was outright pissed that this woman was convicted as you seem to be. Tread title doesn't make any sense as well. She was found guilty (rightly so) and will do some serious time. Never really paid her any mind but watched an interview she did with CNBC when the public and others first started to doubt her. Her answers were total dodges and she really didn't do anything but talk about everything but the charges against her. I also got the impression her ex had serious mind control over this in the beginning. The MSM wanter her to be the next Steve Jobs but wasn't meant to be. Bye Felicia.
Newark727 wrote:NIKV69 wrote:The MSM wanter her to be the next Steve Jobs but wasn't meant to be. Bye Felicia.
She wanted to be the next Steve Jobs, down to purposefully imitating his mannerisms. She honestly sounds like a pretty strange person, but I guess this wouldn't have happened if she was all there.
But if you're in the business of shoveling $eleventy-zillion at every "disruptive" PowerPoint presentation, you're going to pick some duds along with the winners.
Aaron747 wrote:I think all 11 should have returned guilty.
The thread title is fine - the verdicts *are* a mess.
NIKV69 wrote:It's comical l that I also got the feeling CNN was outright pissed that this woman was convicted as you seem to be. Tread title doesn't make any sense as well. She was found guilty (rightly so) and will do some serious time. Never really paid her any mind but watched an interview she did with CNBC when the public and others first started to doubt her. Her answers were total dodges and she really didn't do anything but talk about everything but the charges against her. I also got the impression her ex had serious mind control over this in the beginning. The MSM wanter her to be the next Steve Jobs but wasn't meant to be. Bye Felicia.
CitizenJustin wrote:NIKV69 wrote:It's comical l that I also got the feeling CNN was outright pissed that this woman was convicted as you seem to be. Tread title doesn't make any sense as well. She was found guilty (rightly so) and will do some serious time. Never really paid her any mind but watched an interview she did with CNBC when the public and others first started to doubt her. Her answers were total dodges and she really didn't do anything but talk about everything but the charges against her. I also got the impression her ex had serious mind control over this in the beginning. The MSM wanter her to be the next Steve Jobs but wasn't meant to be. Bye Felicia.
Couldn’t agree more. It’s comical to rewind the clock a few years and witness everyone gushing over the despicable woman. Her fake voice should have been the first red flag. How she fooled anyone is a mystery to me.
CitizenJustin wrote:How she fooled anyone is a mystery to me.
Francoflier wrote:CitizenJustin wrote:How she fooled anyone is a mystery to me.
What's amazing is that people keep falling for much more obvious scams than this.
The World is awash with liquidity and in no shortage of gullible people. The World will also never be short of those who seek to part fools from their money.
luckyone wrote:The world is full of fools who breed more fools.
johns624 wrote:I find it interesting that the last three national coverage trials all had women defendants. Holmes, Maxwell and Potter. The first two tried some degree of the "poor woman dominated by a man" defense. Thank goodness it didn't work.
CitizenJustin wrote:
Couldn’t agree more. It’s comical to rewind the clock a few years and witness everyone gushing over the despicable woman. Her fake voice should have been the first red flag. How she fooled anyone is a mystery to me.
bennett123 wrote:I think what makes me laugh is that she was 'Wonderwoman'. Then it goes pearshaped, and suddenly it is all the fault of her ex.
NIKV69 wrote:CitizenJustin wrote:
Couldn’t agree more. It’s comical to rewind the clock a few years and witness everyone gushing over the despicable woman. Her fake voice should have been the first red flag. How she fooled anyone is a mystery to me.
The voice thing was un-nerving and a giveaway for sure.bennett123 wrote:I think what makes me laugh is that she was 'Wonderwoman'. Then it goes pearshaped, and suddenly it is all the fault of her ex.
I wouldn't say it all the fault of her ex but he did have some sort of mind control over her. The more I listen to her in videos the more I see she wasn't a strong secure person but it takes two to tango and she made her bed and will lie in it now.
CitizenJustin wrote:NIKV69 wrote:CitizenJustin wrote:
Couldn’t agree more. It’s comical to rewind the clock a few years and witness everyone gushing over the despicable woman. Her fake voice should have been the first red flag. How she fooled anyone is a mystery to me.
The voice thing was un-nerving and a giveaway for sure.bennett123 wrote:I think what makes me laugh is that she was 'Wonderwoman'. Then it goes pearshaped, and suddenly it is all the fault of her ex.
I wouldn't say it all the fault of her ex but he did have some sort of mind control over her. The more I listen to her in videos the more I see she wasn't a strong secure person but it takes two to tango and she made her bed and will lie in it now.
And her tendency to wear black turtlenecks like Steve Jobs? Come on! Why didn’t anyone pick up on this? I think people were so desperate to have a female Steve that they overlooked all the glaring red flags. A lot of people seem to think she’s attractive so this probably helped as well.
NIKV69 wrote:CitizenJustin wrote:NIKV69 wrote:
The voice thing was un-nerving and a giveaway for sure.
I wouldn't say it all the fault of her ex but he did have some sort of mind control over her. The more I listen to her in videos the more I see she wasn't a strong secure person but it takes two to tango and she made her bed and will lie in it now.
And her tendency to wear black turtlenecks like Steve Jobs? Come on! Why didn’t anyone pick up on this? I think people were so desperate to have a female Steve that they overlooked all the glaring red flags. A lot of people seem to think she’s attractive so this probably helped as well.
I have been watching many of her vids and doing much research and this whole story is so scary. I remember a similar Fraud when John Spanos actually took ownership of the Islanders without having the money he told everyone he did. In the documentary a great line was everybody thought he was rich because he was perceived to the rich. It's a must watch as one of the most famous sports frauds.
As for Holmes I think many things are at play here. First most of this was media driven. In the beginning they fawned over her, Norah O'Donnell did an interview that was a total lovefest. I would be willing to bet she is a Democrat so that helped, she is attractive and she was definitely playing a role, hence the turtlenecks and voice. I think many of this was orchestrated. I mean she knew that the technology was not there and not forthcoming so they had a huge problem on their hands with how to do all that testing in time. Once that journalist figured it out they were screwed and she knew her best excuse was to blame her boyfriend. Much like with John Spanos banks and investers did very little due diligence after they asked for money to support their venture. Her interview with CNBC when they first were getting some real scrutiny was very telling. She used every media catch phrase and mostly didn't answer a single question. Blaming people that didn't exist etc. It should be a cautionary tale. Especially when people's health is involved. Holmes and her ex boyfriend hopefully do at least 3-5 years in jail so they can think about it.
CitizenJustin wrote:It’s still baffling how she fooled so many of these supposedly intelligent people and how can a company be valued at 9 billion with nothing to show?
CitizenJustin wrote:One of the worst interviews was with Bill Clinton. The whole thing was cringeworthy and he was so over the top in his praise of this fraud. You know I’m liberal but I’m being honest and the Clinton interview was hard to watch. He was struggling to keep the creepy old man under control and managed poorly. I wonder if a male in her position would have experienced the same meteoric rise? Are people more likely to accept complete BS when it comes from a pretty blonde? I think this case potentially exposes many of our biases. I also noticed that the interviewers never really asked her hard hitting questions and criticism was nonexistent. I understand though because accusations of sexism can be a career ender, so I don’t blame many for treading carefully.
CitizenJustin wrote:
I thought they were looking at some serious time? You think 3-5 is all? It will be interesting to see if she’s given a second chance or destined to remain a pariah.
Francoflier wrote:luckyone wrote:The world is full of fools who breed more fools.
And now it seems all these fools are all buying NFTs...
NIKV69 wrote:CitizenJustin wrote:It’s still baffling how she fooled so many of these supposedly intelligent people and how can a company be valued at 9 billion with nothing to show?
I think John Spanos was worse he actually took legal ownership of a Major sports franchise with nothing. Don't forget how CNBC and the market works, they sell hopes and dreams and have analysts that tell you if what she is claiming about her testing is true what it is worth when in reality it's worth zero. Like that painting on Gordon Gekko's wall. Remember what he said
It's like magic, this painting here I bought it 10 years ago for $60,000 I could sell it today for $600,000 the illusion has become real and the more real it becomes the more desperate they want it. Capitalism at it's finest.
The best minds in business speculated that her company was worth 9 Billion without her producing one unit that did what it was supposed to do. It's scary.CitizenJustin wrote:One of the worst interviews was with Bill Clinton. The whole thing was cringeworthy and he was so over the top in his praise of this fraud. You know I’m liberal but I’m being honest and the Clinton interview was hard to watch. He was struggling to keep the creepy old man under control and managed poorly. I wonder if a male in her position would have experienced the same meteoric rise? Are people more likely to accept complete BS when it comes from a pretty blonde? I think this case potentially exposes many of our biases. I also noticed that the interviewers never really asked her hard hitting questions and criticism was nonexistent. I understand though because accusations of sexism can be a career ender, so I don’t blame many for treading carefully.
Yea I watched that Clinton interview video it was as hard to watch as the Norah O'Donnell one. Maybe they saw the next George Soros but it was tough to watch nobody exercise one bit of journalistic integrity and get some evidence her company was doing what they said they were doing.CitizenJustin wrote:
I thought they were looking at some serious time? You think 3-5 is all? It will be interesting to see if she’s given a second chance or destined to remain a pariah.
She is going to serve half of what she is sentenced to if that. With it being a white collar crime and all I bet she will be sentenced to much more than 3 to 5 but I don't see her being in jail for more than 4 years. Maybe she has a deal to flip on her ex boyfriend as well. You know these people they always buy their way out somehow.
CitizenJustin wrote:
You’ve clearly followed the case and I appreciate the info. I was really hoping that the judge would throw the book at her. I suppose her being found guilty is a win all by itself. I’m really tired of the lack of accountability. We live in a world where a teenager working a summer job at McDonald’s is held to a higher standard than the leaders who’re supposed to set the example.
stl07 wrote:https://www.foxbusiness.com/business-leaders/bidens-praise-played-key-role-in-legitimizing-theranos-elizabeth-holmes-reporter-says
And Fox has suddenly found a way to tie this to Biden. This is on the level of "look we have a picture of Trump with Kim, he must support the North Korean Regime"