BEG2IAH wrote:Reading this thread makes me wonder how the Inquisition would have looked back in the Medieval Times if most of the 'righteous' posters constituted the inquisitorial courts. Probably no one would have survived.
Well that is the period of the time, just as now it’s the local law that provides the penalty
BEG2IAH wrote:No matter what everyone here thinks about Novak Djokovic, he is still the best tennis player in the world who broke so many records. Calling him novax, NJ, and what not says more about those who do that than him. Cancel culture at its best.
It’s no more no less than what happens in the main stream and idol gossip irrespective of a person’s stature, and that only comes about by a persons actions and has been happening since times immemorial it’s very different from cancel culture. No one is canceling out his achievements, but people are taking offence to his actions
BEG2IAH wrote:watched the last hearing live. The whole damn thing. It's sad that one minister can make a decision with zero evidence ('none needed' per Mr. Lloyd),
Well the verdict tells a different story, the overwhelming majority of the country agreed with what the Federal government was doing. And with the Minister complying with the law, novax got for more preferential treatment than any joe blow from wherever would ever get, you may not have agreed with it but he did and that only comes down to his wealth.
You only have to remember it would not have got to that stage if ABF officials just gave him that time they agreed on, and he would not have got past the airport he would have gone on the next flight back to his departure.
At the end of the day he is still responsible for having the correct documents to enter the country as zeke said earlier
BEG2IAH wrote:The Australian government accused him of empowering antivax sentiment in Australia, but their decision gave more fuel to antivaxxers than anyone.
Yes and no, but at the end of the day, what is being defended is the Commonwealths ability to make laws and decide who enters Australia and under what circumstances, this is all about Australia’s right it’s nothing to do with tennis it’s about respecting Australian law and I 100% agree with what the AusGov did
BEG2IAH wrote:I do blame Novak for so many things he screwed up, let alone not being vaccinated, but the following few pieces are very telling.
Telling of what, that the Australian want to preserve the right who enter under what conditions and who does not?
BEG2IAH wrote:
The only precedent set is that Australia will preserves its right to admit persons under its own entry requirements. Visa have been denied to all sorts of people and had there visa revoked at point of entry for decades
BEG2IAH wrote:
Every country in the world sets its own foreign policy, John Howard had every right to deny entry to the vessel to try and stop the people smuggling trade, remember these people are economic refugees and the intent is to stop the business, technically what those refugees did was mutiny, under international convention he was to transport and drop off at his next port of call.
For every refuge who jumps the que means a refugee who dose not have the means to fly to Indonesia or wherever from getting a place in Australia, and I for one applaud what the AusGov is doing it actually saves many live because those who they pay for the trip don’t care if the vessels makes it or sink and everyone drowns which occurs more frequently than people think
BEG2IAH wrote:
There is one important distinction here, anybody that is held in detention is free to leave Australia any time they choose
BEG2IAH wrote:
As numerous people have said he is a guest and the requirements to enter where we’ll known and was reinforced to TA which did not pass on the letters to the medical boards, it is not in TA or for that matter the VicGov to give exemptions to enter. There is more to this than bending the rules AFB rang VicGov if they were prepared to sponsor him entering the country and they declined, it become a political sideshow between state and federal politics as state is ALP and federal being Liberal/Nationals coalition
Anti- vaxxers may complain and demonstrate but they still have to comply with health orders and the law.
We all applaud our leaders for standing up for a rules based society like standing up to China for the Uyghurs like or hate it Australia is a rules based society and they expect everyone to follow the rules.
It’s blatant hypocrisy from the VicGov to grant an exemption for novax to play when it’s holding vaccinations to domestic professional sportsman to play in local competitions
BEG2IAH wrote:
Just to add... he hasn't received any hero welcome in Belgrade. I'm not sure who came up with that BS
Just to clarify it was said before his deportation and was quoted by the media from Serbia
“When Djokovic returns home to his hometown of Belgrade, he will be welcomed as a hero. At the airport, in central squares and in the working-class neighborhood of Banjica, where he partly grew up, crowds of Serbs will be cheering for him, fans predicted.”
https://www.euractiv.com/section/politi ... australia/BEG2IAH wrote:There were 30 people at the airport and he left using a non-public exit so hardly anyone could even see him.
That could ultimately be put down to what the general Serbian population think of his antics......
BEG2IAH wrote:This story is far from over. I hope he sues shit out of Tennis Australia,
From reports I think he wants to sue the federal government which I see he has no hope of winning, and I don’t think it would go far for TA either as he is ultimately responsible for making sure he has the correct documents to enter the country
BEG2IAH wrote:now you can go back to being righteous and judging. Good you have no faults. Good for you.
We are all human which means we are far from being faultless, some people gamble on horses some on the dogs football games and so fourth, novax gambled on his entry into Australia when he didn’t need to 100% of the fault lies with Novax
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