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scbriml wrote:Thread title reads like nobody else is making fun of the idiot. The sooner he’s history the better. As long as his female equivalent, Liz Truss, doesn’t take over.
ltbewr wrote:PM Johnson's total cock up (to use a British term) as to Brexit and its fallout should be the main reason to end his term as PM, much more than involvement at several hypocritical parties.
art wrote:An amusing disaster that has ceased to be so amusing IMO. Trouble is that he purged all MP's who had contrary ideas before the last 'Let's get Brexit done' election. A bit like with Jo Stalin, who is there to replace him now when he goes?
GDB wrote:scbriml wrote:Thread title reads like nobody else is making fun of the idiot. The sooner he’s history the better. As long as his female equivalent, Liz Truss, doesn’t take over.
Given that he has surrounded himself with equally clownish or just plain compromised people, little choice, plus the Tory grassroots members (even more batshit crazy and nasty) like Truss, it could well be her.
They loved Johnson too, especially his long record of racist comments, lying, corruption, being sacked from every job he’s ever had - for lying - they will likely choose someone to continue the ongoing toxicity of their party.
Fine by me, could not be any more embarrassing for this country than the last 5 years.
£39 billion on a Track and Trace system that did not work, so likely increased COVID transmission, given to a Tory Party donor who previously showed her expertise in large data handling by screwing up a major comms company, who had already pulled strings to put on a major and crowded horse racing event as the rest of Europe
was locking down, in the Health Secretary’s constituency.
39 Bn, that’s two James Webb Space Telescopes or 9 Queen Elizabeth Class aircraft carriers.
But this bunch of crooks, taxpayers money going to their donors and friends is not a waste, only if the opposition spend money, even if wisely and properly with none of this ‘VIP Lanes’ for Tory donors subsequently found to be illegal, in fact funneling public money to wealthy donors is why they went into politics.
CranfordBoy wrote:GDB wrote:scbriml wrote:Thread title reads like nobody else is making fun of the idiot. The sooner he’s history the better. As long as his female equivalent, Liz Truss, doesn’t take over.
Given that he has surrounded himself with equally clownish or just plain compromised people, little choice, plus the Tory grassroots members (even more batshit crazy and nasty) like Truss, it could well be her.
They loved Johnson too, especially his long record of racist comments, lying, corruption, being sacked from every job he’s ever had - for lying - they will likely choose someone to continue the ongoing toxicity of their party.
Fine by me, could not be any more embarrassing for this country than the last 5 years.
£39 billion on a Track and Trace system that did not work, so likely increased COVID transmission, given to a Tory Party donor who previously showed her expertise in large data handling by screwing up a major comms company, who had already pulled strings to put on a major and crowded horse racing event as the rest of Europe
was locking down, in the Health Secretary’s constituency.
39 Bn, that’s two James Webb Space Telescopes or 9 Queen Elizabeth Class aircraft carriers.
But this bunch of crooks, taxpayers money going to their donors and friends is not a waste, only if the opposition spend money, even if wisely and properly with none of this ‘VIP Lanes’ for Tory donors subsequently found to be illegal, in fact funneling public money to wealthy donors is why they went into politics.
I'm no apologist for Boris but the £37 billion for test and trace was the total budget and is not the amount spent:
https://fullfact.org/health/nhs-test-and-trace-cost/
That said, even £13billion in the first year is a mind boggling waste of tax payer money and I agree with your comments about the utterly corrupt way the contract was awarded.
IMO Boris is history; its only a question of when. The Conservative Party is ruthless at getting rid of leaders deemed to be a liability. My guess is they will replace him about 18 months before the next election. The new leader then goes in with a clean slate and blames past troubles on Boris. Unless, of course, the current police investigation into lockdown parties decides laws have been broken....
Dutchy wrote:Yes, it does. He is a very calculated politician. Bizarrely calculated: ever wondered why he looks like it does?
Link to John Oliver segment on this. The question: 'what he does to relax: 'is so damn calculated' that it is so hilarious.
pune wrote:Dutchy wrote:Yes, it does. He is a very calculated politician. Bizarrely calculated: ever wondered why he looks like it does?
Link to John Oliver segment on this. The question: 'what he does to relax: 'is so damn calculated' that it is so hilarious.
I had seen this but it is good as a refresher about what an idiot he absolutely is
pune wrote:
pune wrote:Does anybody know what movie is that screenshot taken from ???? This is from https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCj1_pZ ... 5clIcMVJtg and I mean the second video, Police blocking the publication of sue grey inquiry. Would be nice if somebody could give a name. At least will get couple of laughs
Dutchy wrote:pune wrote:Dutchy wrote:Yes, it does. He is a very calculated politician. Bizarrely calculated: ever wondered why he looks like it does?
Link to John Oliver segment on this. The question: 'what he does to relax: 'is so damn calculated' that it is so hilarious.
I had seen this but it is good as a refresher about what an idiot he absolutely is
That's the thing, Johnson is absolutely not a complete idiot, he does what he does deliberately and that is the crazy thing.
Aaron747 wrote:His outpouring of contrition today was highly theatrical and admittedly a bit amusing. Johnson is a crap manager but he definitely knows how to command attention.
GDB wrote:Aaron747 wrote:His outpouring of contrition today was highly theatrical and admittedly a bit amusing. Johnson is a crap manager but he definitely knows how to command attention.
Swap 'attention' for contempt;
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... out-honour
300 photos?
12 'events' under Police investigation - though Cressida Dick being near it is a concern with her long record of cover ups.
The Met need independent investigation too, to allude to what May said in her quietly withering way to Johnson, the police in Downing either knew about at least some of the events, certainly the most serious, so did they report it and being so politically sensitive it went right up to Dick's desk? Or were they given instructions either just as the lockdown started or after the first reports came in, to turn a blind eye. No senior Met Commander would do that without consulting Dick.
Then there is the question of the Personal Protection Officers from Special Branch, they would at times be in Downing Street, both for senior Ministers and the PM.
It is also clear that when Cummings did his trip up North, then was allowed that absurd address from the garden of No.10, that he had something on Johnson, though that was always likely from before the pandemic.
It has to be the activities in Downing Street, he was in the pic of the one in the garden, the 'work' event with booze and a cake to ambush the PM.
Come November 2020, Carrie Antionette finally gets her way and Cummings is out.
Yet Johnson did not think about what Cummings had on him about the parties in the summer? Let all the stuff go on during the Christmas period without thinking 'what if Cummings has a few mates still around in Downing Street?'
By the time of the piss up while the Queen was following the rules even in mourning, Cummings had been making his intentions to go after Johnson plain for some time.
He's as stupid as he is dishonest and arrogant.
And the party to made him leader knew full well of his lifetime of lying, being sacked (for lying), wastes of public money on nonsense that is never needed or wanted, never usually get's built but even so millions end up spent.
Some with their heads screwed on warned, usually from bitter experience with him.
Just last week his government's Covid procurement plan was found to be illegal, yes they were in a rush to procure but even more focused on making sure friends/donors were in the 'VIP Lane', much of what was procured was unsuitable/useless, often the VIP Lane was full of people with no prior experience in the necessary fields.
Arion640 wrote:Dutchy wrote:pune wrote:
I had seen this but it is good as a refresher about what an idiot he absolutely is
That's the thing, Johnson is absolutely not a complete idiot, he does what he does deliberately and that is the crazy thing.
Like a certain Donald Trump.
noviorbis77 wrote:Are there any UK papers not poking fun at him?
scbriml wrote:noviorbis77 wrote:Are there any UK papers not poking fun at him?
Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-60208827
Even the Daily Mail is turning on him.
Newark727 wrote:"Partygate?" Oh god, have our cousins across the Atlantic adopted the terrible American habit of attaching "-gate" to the end of every potential or actual political scandal?
ltbewr wrote:PM Johnson keeps digging his political grave. How long before he has to resign and then who replaces him ? A week ?
scbriml wrote:He has all the moral fibre of a piece of wet spaghetti. He won't resign, he'll have to be kicked out by his own MPs.
Tugger wrote:scbriml wrote:He has all the moral fibre of a piece of wet spaghetti. He won't resign, he'll have to be kicked out by his own MPs.
Who have equal moral fiber... Wet spaghetti kicking out wet spaghetti... Selecting another piece of wet spaghetti to replace him.
Tugg
Flanker7 wrote:I don't think he will step down but instead sacrifice some people around him and claim he's taken control of the situation. We can only hope that the party will turn against him and deem him unfit to continue.
GDB wrote:Flanker7 wrote:I don't think he will step down but instead sacrifice some people around him and claim he's taken control of the situation. We can only hope that the party will turn against him and deem him unfit to continue.
It depends when the Met investigation concludes, though as I mention further up, they are led by someone deeply compromised and not only on this issue. Not for nothing did Dame Cressida Fail Upwards get an extra two years in post, did I mention she was at Oxford the same time Johnson was?
As for the party that put him in knowing full well his history of dishonesty and throwing everyone under the bus, as was pointed out to him yesterday, he drags everyone involved down with him.
If that will now include the party that made him leader, fine by me.
He chose a cabinet of the loyal but corrupt, the stupid but happy to be promoted miles above their competence, this shit sticks to them too, thicker with each passing day and each humiliating (for the few with any self awareness) tour of the studios to claim day is night etc.
Or as this always excellent writer puts it;
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... y-kool-aid
bennett123 wrote:GDB wrote:Flanker7 wrote:I don't think he will step down but instead sacrifice some people around him and claim he's taken control of the situation. We can only hope that the party will turn against him and deem him unfit to continue.
It depends when the Met investigation concludes, though as I mention further up, they are led by someone deeply compromised and not only on this issue. Not for nothing did Dame Cressida Fail Upwards get an extra two years in post, did I mention she was at Oxford the same time Johnson was?
As for the party that put him in knowing full well his history of dishonesty and throwing everyone under the bus, as was pointed out to him yesterday, he drags everyone involved down with him.
If that will now include the party that made him leader, fine by me.
He chose a cabinet of the loyal but corrupt, the stupid but happy to be promoted miles above their competence, this shit sticks to them too, thicker with each passing day and each humiliating (for the few with any self awareness) tour of the studios to claim day is night etc.
Or as this always excellent writer puts it;
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... y-kool-aid
Actually, not only were they both at Oxford from 1979 to 1983, they were both at Balliol. He did Classics, Ancient Literature and Classical Philosophy. She did Agriculture and Forest Science.
That must have been very useful when she joined the Met, (all that agriculture and forestry).
Aesma wrote:I think the problem with that promise isn't the number actually, but the other part, "NHS". NHS means public health care, when people read/hear that. But the money doesn't necessarily go into public services. So if the funding has increased, but the money went to private companies, it's even more of a lie.
Dutchy wrote: