bikerthai wrote:AeroVega wrote:Doesn't sound like these missile systems are going to be delivered to Ukraine any time soon. I would love to see evidence to the contrary, though, so please share if you have.
Maybe we should step back and think this through a bit.
The US has promised to provide arms. It has provided most of the arm originally promised.
The first batch are arms that the Ukrainian already knows how to use.
The US promised more arms. And due to increased attacks on western Ukraine, it is no wonder we do not hear much about these shipments.
The second batch include arms that Ukraine have not used before but required only little amount training: the switch blade drones.
My bet is those drones are already in country. We will probably not know until videos of them in action are published because it is of operational advantage to not let the enemy known where they are being used.
That brings up the next set of hardware. . . Those that require lots more training to use: Patriot batteries, US tanks and Armored Vehicles, Shore defense missiles.
Of these, I would suspect the tanks will be the next easiest to learn.
So questions: anyone knows how much time it takes to train for the M-1 tanks, MRLS , Patriot Air defense, the Harpoons ground base missiles?
I would think the US would supply western made artillery, including MRLS before Harpoons.
My other bet is we would not know if the US will be sending these systems until they would have had Ukrainian crew secretly already trained and ready to go.
With the revelation that the Russians tried to poison Roman Abramovich and Ukrainian peace negotiators it's clear what the prospects are for a negotiated cease fire. It's time to ramp up the military aide, however the type of stuff that the Ukrainians can use quickly are running out. The next tier of military support requires Ukrainians either pulled out and sent to NATO training sites or to have NATO volunteer to do it in Western Ukraine. I think one option is for Ukrainian aircraft/Helicopters to leave Ukraine to NATO bases where they can be modified and Ukrainian crews trained on Western Weapons systems. Systems like AGM-84 Harpoon and AGM-119 Penguin Anti ship missiles, AGM-65 Maverick, AGM-88 HARM, AIM-120, AIM-9 etc.. An expedited program can probably reduce what would ordinarily need months down to weeks.