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Tue Aug 30, 2022 7:15 pm

AFP is showing the counteroffensive/recaptured territory as being quite large

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/15646195 ... 40/photo/1
 
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Tue Aug 30, 2022 7:18 pm

bikerthai wrote:
marcelh wrote:
What might happen is that Russia is staging an “incident” at the nuclear plant and shutting it down permanently.


I thought the electricity from the plant have already been diverted to the occupied territories and Russia and have been shut off to the rest of Ukraine. Shutting the plant now would not be useful for the Russian.

It's about time Europe diversify its energy needs. It's going to be harsh, but hopefully for the best, in the long run.

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What “useful” is for the Russians remains a mistery for us. If the Russians disable the nuclear power plant, it won’t be useful for the Ukrainians any more.

It isn’t “about time”, the inconvenient truth is we are already too late and it’s gonna be painful.
 
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Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:11 pm

The next smoking incident in Kherson just right now. Russian ammunition depot burning down....
It is a 3.41 min long video and it is worth to watch it to the end.
This guy, cheering the nice warming fire is with around 1 km of course far enough away...is he?
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/x1s99v/longer_version_of_kherson_resident_taping/
 
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Tue Aug 30, 2022 9:45 pm

T4thH wrote:
The next smoking incident in Kherson just right now. Russian ammunition depot burning down....
It is a 3.41 min long video and it is worth to watch it to the end.
This guy, cheering the nice warming fire is with around 1 km of course far enough away...is he?
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/x1s99v/longer_version_of_kherson_resident_taping/

He is either not very sober, or he isn't fully awake (it's night out there). He swears a lot, and the fact that the market (apparently the location of the ammunition dump) has turned into a "devil's ass" and it's all over, and complete and full "female genitals" (a.k.a. "This is the end") has arrived there, has not escaped his attention.
 
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Tue Aug 30, 2022 10:46 pm

T4thH wrote:
The next smoking incident in Kherson just right now. Russian ammunition depot burning down....
It is a 3.41 min long video and it is worth to watch it to the end.
This guy, cheering the nice warming fire is with around 1 km of course far enough away...is he?
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/x1s99v/longer_version_of_kherson_resident_taping/


Multiple comments there suggesting that's an old video?
 
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Tue Aug 30, 2022 11:27 pm

scbriml wrote:
T4thH wrote:
The next smoking incident in Kherson just right now. Russian ammunition depot burning down....
It is a 3.41 min long video and it is worth to watch it to the end.
This guy, cheering the nice warming fire is with around 1 km of course far enough away...is he?
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/x1s99v/longer_version_of_kherson_resident_taping/


Multiple comments there suggesting that's an old video?

Yes, it can be an old event; but it is the first time, this video has been published I have not seen it before and this video is iconic, I would not have forgotten it.
And with something around 150 ammunition warehouse/stockpiless blown up in last month, and some of them filmed by several different....
 
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Wed Aug 31, 2022 1:37 am

Braybuddy wrote:
AFP is showing the counteroffensive/recaptured territory as being quite large

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/15646195 ... 40/photo/1


Uffffff, ruskies very upset. Yet Supposedly the Ukrainian counteroffensive failed!
 
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Wed Aug 31, 2022 6:11 am

SRQLOT wrote:
Braybuddy wrote:
AFP is showing the counteroffensive/recaptured territory as being quite large

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/15646195 ... 40/photo/1


Uffffff, ruskies very upset. Yet Supposedly the Ukrainian counteroffensive failed!



Could take a while:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62730439

Fierce battles have been reported as Ukraine tries to retake the Russian-occupied southern Kherson region - but military experts have told the BBC it "won't happen quickly".
 
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Wed Aug 31, 2022 11:20 am

Ukraine keeps hitting the logistical supply chain. How long it takes to create more surrenders depends on the morale of the Russian troops, which is very dependent upon the quantity and quality of supplies. While they aren't moving, "an army marches on its stomach." With a key bridge reported destroyed, previously the railroad brige, that could be quicker than we fear:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/uk ... r-AA11ii9H

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Wed Aug 31, 2022 1:28 pm

lightsaber wrote:
Ukraine keeps hitting the logistical supply chain. How long it takes to create more surrenders depends on the morale of the Russian troops, which is very dependent upon the quantity and quality of supplies. While they aren't moving, "an army marches on its stomach." With a key bridge reported destroyed, previously the railroad brige, that could be quicker than we fear:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/uk ... r-AA11ii9H

Lightsaber


As far as food supplies are concerned, this is russian army we are talking about -- stealing everything unattended, robbing and murdering if owners are around. And this is Ukraine we are talking about, so people are growing food.
So unfortunately ruskie won't starve for a long time...
 
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Wed Aug 31, 2022 1:53 pm

lightsaber wrote:
Ukraine keeps hitting the logistical supply chain. How long it takes to create more surrenders depends on the morale of the Russian troops, which is very dependent upon the quantity and quality of supplies. While they aren't moving, "an army marches on its stomach." With a key bridge reported destroyed, previously the railroad brige, that could be quicker than we fear:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/uk ... r-AA11ii9H

Lightsaber

There are no new videos of the bridges in last days, Russia is able to learn.
There are few satellite images and we have images from distance of the HIMARS/MARS II impacts in last days on the Antonovsky road bridge (where the bridge can be seen) and from far distance impact flashlights from the others.

The dam bridge: these are two bridges, the watergate bridge, which heavily damaged (but can be easily crossed by tank bridge) and second the bridge at the dam, where the few meters, where the bridge is in some distance to the dam is gone to the maker.
The second one is the killer, this can not be repaired/crossed by any equipment, the dam can be only crossed by foot.
On the watergate bridge is a wreck of a Russian military truck, which got a direct hit by HIMARS, while it tried to cross it. The driver is still in the wreck in the middle of the bridge...and the other half of him has crossed the bridge and is now on the dam site of it....
I have not posted here the last video of the dam/watergate bridge....

Antonovsky rail bridge. critical damaged, can not be crossed any more by any equipment, by foot only with support of ladders e.g.

Antonovsky road bridge. Can not any more crossed by any equipment/vehicles and will not any more repaired for any (heavy) equipment, the bridge is done.
They had build a bridge of baroques under the Antonovsky road bridge. It was never completed.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/x1msja/footage_of_antonovskiy_bridge_position_over_the/ .
On the left, there one of the baroques can be seen, it was never completed or has been destroyed all other barques sunk early..

Pontoon ferries....On satellite images, one got a direct hit in the front part and the pontoon there is destroyed. Check the video above, this was a hit on the area where the pontoon ferry is landing or a direct hit on the pontoon ferry.




"Swim Ivan, swim." Till now, the water of the Dnjepr is still warm.
 
 
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Wed Aug 31, 2022 6:09 pm

Giving the Russian invaders a dose of the Krabs;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIVVOTvVL70
(The morale boosting presence of a boiling vessel shows the Turret's origin!)

A summary of recent events by the UK MoD;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhwrLJqFE50

Meanwhile, back on Snake Island;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClZF6y0n22I
 
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Wed Aug 31, 2022 8:20 pm

Worth mention is what I see as a sober analysis of the current situation by CNN.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/31/politics ... index.html
 
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Wed Aug 31, 2022 8:41 pm

This operation is kind of like Operation Torch for the US Army or Tarawa for the Marines during WWIi in terms of this is the first time Ukraine has performed a large offensive with untested troops.

Learning curve will be steep.

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Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:12 pm

Won't turn a battle but not being safe 4km behind the lines, you cannot hear (unlike an incoming shell) or see it coming, must be morale shredding;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6SOlF6S2-8
 
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Thu Sep 01, 2022 3:07 am

GDB wrote:
Won't turn a battle but not being safe 4km behind the lines, you cannot hear (unlike an incoming shell) or see it coming, must be morale shredding;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6SOlF6S2-8


Morale must be shredded when drunken Russian soldiers get into a gunfight with FSB agents - in a a bar in Kherson:

https://www.businessinsider.com/drunk-r ... ort-2022-8
 
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Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:12 am

alfa164 wrote:
GDB wrote:
Won't turn a battle but not being safe 4km behind the lines, you cannot hear (unlike an incoming shell) or see it coming, must be morale shredding;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6SOlF6S2-8


Morale must be shredded when drunken Russian soldiers get into a gunfight with FSB agents - in a a bar in Kherson:

https://www.businessinsider.com/drunk-r ... ort-2022-8


Russians and alcohol? I'm shocked.
 
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Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:52 am

So another oligarch/businessman falls out of a window...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ ... tal-window

I quote:
"Baza, a Russian news site with close ties to the police, suggested he may have slipped from a balcony while smoking."

So it seems that smoking can be dangerous not only near the Ukranian borders near ammo or oil depots.
 
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Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:08 pm

One way to even the disparity in numbers of artillery;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueXFbSZn_WM
 
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Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:49 pm

GDB wrote:
Won't turn a battle but not being safe 4km behind the lines, you cannot hear (unlike an incoming shell) or see it coming, must be morale shredding;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6SOlF6S2-8


The next iteration of these bombs would include a proximity fuse option to explode 1 m above ground.

by
 
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Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:52 pm

ReverseFlow wrote:
So another oligarch/businessman falls out of a window...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ ... tal-window

I quote:
"Baza, a Russian news site with close ties to the police, suggested he may have slipped from a balcony while smoking."

So it seems that smoking can be dangerous not only near the Ukranian borders near ammo or oil depots.
Moscow must be having an early winter, what with all these slips from icy balconies.
 
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Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:12 pm

ReverseFlow wrote:
So another oligarch/businessman falls out of a window...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ ... tal-window

I quote:
"Baza, a Russian news site with close ties to the police, suggested he may have slipped from a balcony while smoking."

So it seems that smoking can be dangerous not only near the Ukranian borders near ammo or oil depots.


Comrade, come and have a quiet cigarette on the balcony. But I don't smoooooooooooooook!
 
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Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:22 pm

johns624 wrote:
ReverseFlow wrote:
So another oligarch/businessman falls out of a window...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ ... tal-window

I quote:
"Baza, a Russian news site with close ties to the police, suggested he may have slipped from a balcony while smoking."

So it seems that smoking can be dangerous not only near the Ukranian borders near ammo or oil depots.
Moscow must be having an early winter, what with all these slips from icy balconies.

We hope Christmas comes early to "Leningrad" group, and their wish comes true:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYjTYQK5BlI
Lyrics:
https://lyricstranslate.com/en/%D0%BC%D ... -bell.html
 
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Thu Sep 01, 2022 3:13 pm

ReverseFlow wrote:
So another oligarch/businessman falls out of a window...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ ... tal-window

I quote:
"Baza, a Russian news site with close ties to the police, suggested he may have slipped from a balcony while smoking."

So it seems that smoking can be dangerous not only near the Ukranian borders near ammo or oil depots.

He jzst has fallen from the balkony, just hours before the great leader himself visited the coffin of Gorbatschov. His coffin is now in the same hospital.
 
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Thu Sep 01, 2022 4:24 pm

Think back to the start of this war.
1. Everyone overestimated Russia by a lot
2. Ukraine was in denial of the invasion growing (recall, invaded in 2014)
3. Everyone underestimated Ukraine

We are six months into a war of attrition.
My own estimates:
1. Russia should just now start running low on truck parts. This will start to effect logistics in 3 months.
2. Aircraft are running out of parts (upthread brakes). This will take about 4 more months to become critical.
3. Ammo for the Russians should start becoming in short supply in 2 months and critical within 5 months
4. Troop rebellions. Russia has a great history of troop rebellions.

This is why I want to see more Russian POWe captured. That will put too much pressure on surviving troops, including the loss of equipment. I seriously wonder if the current opperation will capture enough equipment to start the decline of the Russian's ability to go on the offense.

I'm personally amazed that equipment that would have been first manned by people older than my grandfather is on the front lines.

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Thu Sep 01, 2022 4:45 pm

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This is why I want to see more Russian POWe captured. That will put too much pressure on surviving troops, including the loss of equipment. I seriously wonder if the current opperation will capture enough equipment to start the decline of the Russian's ability to go on the offense.


There was a CNN video of a former military guy/analyst who gave a pretty good insight of the current Kerson offensive.

Sorry could not find the link again.

He said that the current offensive probably will attempt to recapture Kerson by the winter freeze. With the Dnipro secured as a impenetrable line, Ukraine will be able to shift troops to the central front and strike down towards Crimea in 2023.

There was a blurb about Unrainian officer Corp casualties. It was significant and to me, a concern.

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Thu Sep 01, 2022 5:05 pm

And the Daily Kos has some inference.

https://www.dailykos.com/story/2022/9/1 ... st-Kherson

So the whole of Ukrainian front is getting reinforcement.

And with it comes new tactics as noted by a Russian poster about the Donbas sector.

The new shift switched to the tactics of aggressive defense. Small groups are not afraid to come close to our positions and try to take individual points in a hurry. We walked around familiar places. If earlier they went there during the day, now they move exclusively at night.


bt
 
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Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:32 pm

lightsaber wrote:
Think back to the start of this war.
1. Everyone overestimated Russia by a lot
2. Ukraine was in denial of the invasion growing (recall, invaded in 2014)
3. Everyone underestimated Ukraine

We are six months into a war of attrition.
My own estimates:
1. Russia should just now start running low on truck parts. This will start to effect logistics in 3 months.
2. Aircraft are running out of parts (upthread brakes). This will take about 4 more months to become critical.
3. Ammo for the Russians should start becoming in short supply in 2 months and critical within 5 months
4. Troop rebellions. Russia has a great history of troop rebellions.

This is why I want to see more Russian POWe captured. That will put too much pressure on surviving troops, including the loss of equipment. I seriously wonder if the current opperation will capture enough equipment to start the decline of the Russian's ability to go on the offense.

I'm personally amazed that equipment that would have been first manned by people older than my grandfather is on the front lines.

Lightsaber



I would imagine Russia has some tough choices ahead in the next two months. We are heading deep into fall, and a return to winter. Will Russia be able to make inroads in Ukraine during this time or maintain their fleets? Parts and equipment are going to be an ongoing concern for Russia as this all keeps going as you pointed out, but the return of winter creates a food and clothing issue as well.
 
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Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:39 pm

One of the leaders of the NRA, who claimed responsibility for the murder of Darya Dugina, has spoken to the Kyiv Post and outlined their objectives. Some excerpts from the interview:

"We do not consider an armed overthrow of the Russian government possible at this time. The situation has not yet matured. We believe that sporadic attacks against the authorities, their ideologues, and their media stooges could sow confusion among the Russian elites. If there is a split among the elites, they will start to bring down Putin’s regime from within, from above. And we, the NRA, will do it from below."

"There are former, and more importantly current members of the security and law enforcement agencies in our ranks. Many people, mostly in the lower and middle ranks, are not happy with what is happening in Russia. Why? Total corruption and nepotism.
"

"Putin will be removed as soon as he becomes inconvenient for elites. Most likely, this will happen quietly and fearfully."
 
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Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:07 pm

One day someone will make and epic miniseries about this conflict. It has all the drama, intrigue, and global impacts. There are so many threads that they will have to break it up in to a few story lines.

bt
 
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Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:19 pm

bikerthai wrote:
One day someone will make and epic miniseries about this conflict. It has all the drama, intrigue, and global impacts. There are so many threads that they will have to break it up in to a few story lines.

bt

And they'll need the trolls!

I swear, I expect the next line to be "victory is certain for Russia!"

This is a shift in global outlook, trade energy, war, and the re-introduction of mass warfare.

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Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:55 pm

I forgot to post a link to that Kyiv Post interview:
https://www.kyivpost.com/russia/bringin ... n-nra.html
 
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Thu Sep 01, 2022 10:26 pm

Just for infomation.
Seems Ukraine has now won the air superiority in the south of Ukraine (so Kherson region).
In preparation of ths counter offensive: First Ukraine has successfully pushed the Russian jets from Crimea with the attacks on the Russian airports, an after this, they have silenced the Russian AA defence in the south with HARM and have hit many AA saytems with HIMARS/MARS II, when they were in 80 km range.

The TB2 are back again above hostile territory, hunting the Russian tanks and systems with their weapons as we have seen last at begin of the war. Since than, they have regular only performed reconnassance missions over own territory.
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/x3ctqb/more_tb2_bayraktar_strike_footage_from_yesterday/
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/x3bz7d/the_longawaited_work_of_bayraktar_tb2/
 
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Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:12 pm

casinterest wrote:
lightsaber wrote:
Think back to the start of this war.
1. Everyone overestimated Russia by a lot
2. Ukraine was in denial of the invasion growing (recall, invaded in 2014)
3. Everyone underestimated Ukraine

We are six months into a war of attrition.
My own estimates:
1. Russia should just now start running low on truck parts. This will start to effect logistics in 3 months.
2. Aircraft are running out of parts (upthread brakes). This will take about 4 more months to become critical.
3. Ammo for the Russians should start becoming in short supply in 2 months and critical within 5 months
4. Troop rebellions. Russia has a great history of troop rebellions.

This is why I want to see more Russian POWe captured. That will put too much pressure on surviving troops, including the loss of equipment. I seriously wonder if the current opperation will capture enough equipment to start the decline of the Russian's ability to go on the offense.

I'm personally amazed that equipment that would have been first manned by people older than my grandfather is on the front lines.

Lightsaber



I would imagine Russia has some tough choices ahead in the next two months. We are heading deep into fall, and a return to winter. Will Russia be able to make inroads in Ukraine during this time or maintain their fleets? Parts and equipment are going to be an ongoing concern for Russia as this all keeps going as you pointed out, but the return of winter creates a food and clothing issue as well.

The fall mud season starts soon. This will get interesting. Mud results in more equipment loses, making logistics even more critical.



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Gapping the bridge;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGjLVM-m7Co

IAEA finally make it into the plant only to find;
https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxrNGEk- ... 5rczuz1Efl
 
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Fri Sep 02, 2022 12:03 am

GDB wrote:

This video is interesting. You can see the artillery hits on the bridge at Dar'ivka in a straight line, and if you project that line west, it looks like the artillery piece was located just north of a town called Vavoylove making it a 22 mile shot (base bleed). Vavoylove is right on the front lines so it looks like the Ukrainians snuck a 155 up close to the line north of there and blasted away.

Then they came back after the pontoon bridge was set up and nailed it too.
I can even see a line of trees in Google Earth that I can imagine they hid the piece behind.
 
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Slovakia Retires MiG-29 Freeing Fulcrum Jets For Ukraine

https://theaviationist.com/2022/08/31/s ... r-ukraine/

12 MiG-29 available. How many weeks to convert them to a spec UkAF can use, I wonder.
 
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Fri Sep 02, 2022 3:52 am

Braybuddy wrote:
[...]"Putin will be removed as soon as he becomes inconvenient for elites. Most likely, this will happen quietly and fearfully."

That is if Putin hasn't successfully removed all the inconvenient elites first... :duck:

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Fri Sep 02, 2022 6:51 am

GDB wrote:
Giving the Russian invaders a dose of the Krabs;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIVVOTvVL70
(The morale boosting presence of a boiling vessel shows the Turret's origin!)

A summary of recent events by the UK MoD;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhwrLJqFE50

Meanwhile, back on Snake Island;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClZF6y0n22I


It didn't surprise me to see that the Polish Krab self-propelled howitzer essentially has the British BAE/VSEL AS90 turret, but this time on a Korean chassis, rather than the Brazilian one of the AS90.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AHS_Krab

(Note by the way, that the AS90 beat the PZh 2000 in the Polish competition .... - sorry, couldn't resist.. :) )

Considering this turret was originally designed in the '80's from a '70's design for the failed NATO SP70 project, it was way ahead of its time.

As the video says, you just programme the target co-ordinates in, and the machine does the rest.
The AS90 was/is capable of a 3 round burst, followed by an immediate transit out of the firing area.
Once moved to a new location, the gun automatically resets on the original target, ready for another 3-round burst.
The gun was also designed to be big enough to not require the deployment of "spades" at the back for stability, meaning it's literally "move and fire".

Great to see the Polish innovation on the integration of this excellent SP Howitzer

Rgds
 
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Fri Sep 02, 2022 7:41 am

Some light relief: the Defence of Ukraine has a message for the invaders, and Operator Starsky pokes fun at them:

https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1565037514888560641

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz1hqD_ ... 0%9F%87%A6
 
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Fri Sep 02, 2022 9:11 am

Psychological warfare in the age of social media is definitely something else...
 
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Fri Sep 02, 2022 10:17 am

A bit of updates on complicity of German industry in russian military buildup:
Chemical warfare precursors for sale:
https://thedeepdive.ca/raided-german-ch ... omponents/

A long thread on russian military buildup
https://twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/ ... 5780959234
includes bits on how Rheinmetall built, among other things, a copy of a modern German military training centre in Mulino,russia.
https://twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/ ... 8483842056

"third army corps" of orcs is now being trained there, before being sent to kill Ukrainians
 
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Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

Fri Sep 02, 2022 11:44 am

Francoflier wrote:
Psychological warfare in the age of social media is definitely something else...

It feels like we're desensitizing war more and more. Which shouldn't be surprising.
 
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Fri Sep 02, 2022 11:49 am

A few words in Russian on Mulino with some links, on what it is:
https://ratrussian.livejournal.com/117820.html
That's "underground crypto-opposition" in russia speaking.
They believe that it's basically a copy of Bundeswehr training facility in Altmark:
https://www.ffg-flensburg.de/en/service ... ng-centre/
 
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Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

Fri Sep 02, 2022 11:57 am

cjg225 wrote:
Francoflier wrote:
Psychological warfare in the age of social media is definitely something else...

It feels like we're desensitizing war more and more. Which shouldn't be surprising.


Yup, though out the ages, how many stories passed down glorifying war as opposes to peace?

Not surprising because desensitizing war is a coping mechanism that allows a people (even peace loving) to fight for their society. Otherwise their stories would be wiped out.

bt
 
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Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

Fri Sep 02, 2022 12:27 pm

bikerthai wrote:
cjg225 wrote:
Francoflier wrote:
Psychological warfare in the age of social media is definitely something else...

It feels like we're desensitizing war more and more. Which shouldn't be surprising.


Yup, though out the ages, how many stories passed down glorifying war as opposes to peace?

Not surprising because desensitizing war is a coping mechanism that allows a people (even peace loving) to fight for their society. Otherwise their stories would be wiped out.

bt


I remember working in the middle east during the war in Afghanistan. Watching Al Jazeera news was not for the faint-hearted, they certainly had no qualms about showing the horrible aftermath of fighting (on both sides). I can clearly remember America being upset about images post bombing raids - the American view was dropping precision bombs from altitude whereas Al Jazeera would show the human impact of those bombs on the ground with no blurring.

Whilst I'm not advocating for having body parts shown on TV, sometimes I feel it might be necessary to make people understand how truly horrible war is.
 
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Fri Sep 02, 2022 2:36 pm

Two elite brigades of the Russian army will be now cancelled.
31st Guards Air Assault Brigade, involved in the battle of the Antonov aitport (Hostomel).
22nd Spesznaz brigade (22nd Separate Guards Special Purpose Brigade)
Both units have had losses around 80%.
Source in German.
https://www.n-tv.de/politik/Kiew-Russland-loest-Eliteverbaende-wegen-hoher-Verluste-auf-article23563142.html

So one of three airborne and one of 5 Spesznaz brigades are done.
And we shall not forget, the 11th Guards Air Assault Brigade was also in Hostomel....This one is also done.
 
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Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

Fri Sep 02, 2022 2:52 pm

T4thH wrote:
Two elite brigades of the Russian army will be now cancelled.
31st Guards Air Assault Brigade, involved in the battle of the Antonov aitport (Hostomel).
22nd Spesznaz brigade (22nd Separate Guards Special Purpose Brigade)
Both units have had losses around 80%.
Source in German.
https://www.n-tv.de/politik/Kiew-Russland-loest-Eliteverbaende-wegen-hoher-Verluste-auf-article23563142.html

So one of three airborne and one of 5 Spesznaz brigades are done.
And we shall not forget, the 11th Guards Air Assault Brigade was also in Hostomel....This one is also done.

Estimated 20k Russians trapped in a pocket. This could be a real turning point.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/ru ... r-AA11nBFs

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