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SESGDL wrote:I know it’s apparently real but seemed so staged to me. He was laughing at the joke then stands up and very weakly hits Chris Rock, who barely flinches and has no visible signs of being hit. And they let Smith just proceed to sit down and then win the Oscar and start a speech about playing someone who “protected” his family. I don’t know. Extremely well acted if it was staged, but seemed like too much or a coincidence.
Jeremy
SESGDL wrote:I know it’s apparently real but seemed so staged to me. He was laughing at the joke then stands up and very weakly hits Chris Rock, who barely flinches and has no visible signs of being hit. And they let Smith just proceed to sit down and then win the Oscar and start a speech about playing someone who “protected” his family. I don’t know. Extremely well acted if it was staged, but seemed like too much of a coincidence.
Jeremy
SESGDL wrote:I know it’s apparently real but seemed so staged to me. He was laughing at the joke then stands up and very weakly hits Chris Rock, who barely flinches and has no visible signs of being hit. And they let Smith just proceed to sit down and then win the Oscar and start a speech about playing someone who “protected” his family. I don’t know. Extremely well acted if it was staged, but seemed like too much of a coincidence.
Jeremy
LittleFokker wrote:
Bad joke by Rock? Sure, but not bad enough to deserve that reaction.
SESGDL wrote:I know it’s apparently real but seemed so staged to me. He was laughing at the joke then stands up and very weakly hits Chris Rock, who barely flinches and has no visible signs of being hit. And they let Smith just proceed to sit down and then win the Oscar and start a speech about playing someone who “protected” his family. I don’t know. Extremely well acted if it was staged, but seemed like too much of a coincidence.
Jeremy
Aaron747 wrote:Rock was taken aback enough that he misspoke badly even with the teleprompter on. Seems like he wasn’t expecting the reaction.
ACDC8 wrote:Jada suffers from a condition that causes hair loss and baldness, joke was way out of line, I can totally understand Will's reaction.
Redd wrote:Yeah, he, should have looked up Jada's medical records, before making a joke about her.
N14AZ wrote:Also, I read that the Smith‘s are practicing the concept of an „open marriage“. So here he played the mighty raider, defending his wife but at the same time he has no problem to cheat her? I don’t know, something doesn’t add up…
T54A wrote:Maybe if we had more slaps dished out when people were out of line, we would have better behaved citizens in general. Nothing wrong with the 5 point attitude correction plan
Jalap wrote:T54A wrote:Maybe if we had more slaps dished out when people were out of line, we would have better behaved citizens in general. Nothing wrong with the 5 point attitude correction plan
Well, I kind of agree here.
A slap isn't really an assault, is it. It doesn't inflict any damage and basically only hurts the reciever's ego. Words cannot achieve the same effect.
So, a slap should be an appropriate response to any jerk with an inflated ego, male or female, who steps out of line
NIKV69 wrote:How was Will Smith not removed from the venue by security? I guess violence is acceptable now. What a disgrace.
Aaron747 wrote:No different from a political rally where speakers encourage violence. Groupthink emboldens idiocy and acceptance of lower moral quality. Everyone in attendance of the Oscars is part of the same club and nobody's going to be the nail standing out from the board in that room. Remember how aghast they all were at Ricky Gervais's routine a few years ago?
casinterest wrote:I wonder what the camera on the right side showed? That was a very hard swing, and the reaction was not what I would expect from such.
scbriml wrote:casinterest wrote:I wonder what the camera on the right side showed? That was a very hard swing, and the reaction was not what I would expect from such.
It looked like an open-handed slap and not a punch.
ACDC8 wrote:Jada suffers from a condition that causes hair loss and baldness, joke was way out of line, I can totally understand Will's reaction.
N14AZ wrote:
Also, I read that the Smith‘s are practicing the concept of an „open marriage“. So here he played the mighty raider, defending his wife but at the same time he has no problem to cheat her? I don’t know, something doesn’t add up…
phugoid1982 wrote:Had it been a non celebrity, he'd of been arrested on assault.
Kiwirob wrote:ACDC8 wrote:Jada suffers from a condition that causes hair loss and baldness, joke was way out of line, I can totally understand Will's reaction.
70% of men will also suffer from baldness, bald jokes are a comic mainstay. She’s balding, so freaking what! If Smith really wanted to be offended Rebel Wilson’s joke about Pinket was way more offensive.
Okie wrote:Due to the additional notoriety received from the incident at this year's Oscars. Alec Baldwin will be invited next year.![]()
Okie
phugoid1982 wrote:Celebrity privilege. That slap seemed hard to me. Either way, I think Will Smith is a fine actor and funny but a horrible, arrogant diva as a human being. Have heard stories from friends who have been waitstaff at hotels where He and Jada stayed. Their demands were so insane like so many other actors who get paid ridiculous amounts of money to play make believe. I think it's crazy how initially he took it as a joke and then after Jada looked pissed, he had to "white knight" her. Was the joke ill conceived. Probably, But his reaction was equally absurd. Had it been a non celebrity, he'd of been arrested on assault.
PixelPilot wrote:Like it or not, agree or disagree, this was an assault in every way.
The fact that he was allowed to sit there and then take the award, fake apologise to the academy is an absolute proof how deranged and hypocritical is the US.
scbriml wrote:PixelPilot wrote:Like it or not, agree or disagree, this was an assault in every way.
The fact that he was allowed to sit there and then take the award, fake apologise to the academy is an absolute proof how deranged and hypocritical is the US.
Rock was bitch-slapped, it would be embarrassing for him to press charges.
PixelPilot wrote:I think he handled himself very professionally.
As for will smith he should be thrown out of that place yet he was allowed to stay. This was up for the organizers to act on and they failed miserably.
Everybody in that crowd always hashtag cries about violence and anything they can put their face on yet here it is what it is.
Bunch of losers.
GDB wrote:Kiwirob wrote:ACDC8 wrote:Jada suffers from a condition that causes hair loss and baldness, joke was way out of line, I can totally understand Will's reaction.
70% of men will also suffer from baldness, bald jokes are a comic mainstay. She’s balding, so freaking what! If Smith really wanted to be offended Rebel Wilson’s joke about Pinket was way more offensive.
But Rock did not file a complaint and I think most understand that baldness in men is not the same as it is for women, whatever you may think about it, it’s a fact.
In a statement Monday, the film academy said: "The Academy condemns the actions of Mr. Smith at last night's show. We have officially started a formal review around the incident and will explore further action and consequences in accordance with our bylaws, standards of conduct and California law."
Kiwirob wrote:70% of men will also suffer from baldness, bald jokes are a comic mainstay. She’s balding, so freaking what!
Kiwirob wrote:If Smith really wanted to be offended Rebel Wilson’s joke about Pinket was way more offensive.
scbriml wrote:PixelPilot wrote:Like it or not, agree or disagree, this was an assault in every way.
The fact that he was allowed to sit there and then take the award, fake apologise to the academy is an absolute proof how deranged and hypocritical is the US.
Rock was bitch-slapped, it would be embarrassing for him to press charges.
ACDC8 wrote:Kiwirob wrote:70% of men will also suffer from baldness, bald jokes are a comic mainstay. She’s balding, so freaking what!
Sure bald jokes are a comic mainstay, just as fat jokes are - but they're within context, Chris took it out of that context.Kiwirob wrote:If Smith really wanted to be offended Rebel Wilson’s joke about Pinket was way more offensive.
Will's reaction was set by Jada's reaction to the joke, not by what people think he should be offended by.
Kiwirob wrote:I don’t think anything was out of context and compared to Ricky Gervais at the Golden Globes it was very mild. Comedians are going to dine out on this for years.
ACDC8 wrote:Kiwirob wrote:I don’t think anything was out of context and compared to Ricky Gervais at the Golden Globes it was very mild. Comedians are going to dine out on this for years.
At the end of the day, it doesn't matter what you or I think or what this comedian said or what that comedian said - all that matters is one joke by one comedian and how it effected an individual and the reaction an individual took after seeing how that one joke by that one comedian effected the person they care very deeply about.