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10 killed in Buffalo mass shooting.

Sat May 14, 2022 9:44 pm

10 killed in shooting at a supermarket in Buffalo, New York today. Shooter may have been livestreaming it.
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/buffal ... index.html
 
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Re: 10 killed in Buffalo mass shooting.

Sat May 14, 2022 9:52 pm

From a report on Yahoo! this was in a mainly Black neighborhood and the alleged shooter taken into custody (sadly alive) is White, was wearing body armor. He apparently attacked some in the parking lot and then went into the store. If this is true, then this will be seen by Blacks as a openly racist attack and likely a very strong reaction, huge protests that I hope don't turn destructive.. https://www.yahoo.com/news/multiple-peo ... 56461.html
 
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10 killed in Buffalo mass shooting.

Sat May 14, 2022 10:08 pm

Watching the presser:

10 dead 1 was security guard who was a retired BPD officer. Security guard did land at least 1 round on the shooter but seems to of hit body armour. 3 other store employees were injured.

Location is Jefferson Ave and Riley St - Tops Market

Shooter is alive and in custody, 18years old white male.

He is from the southern tier of NY state (not more specific than that)

Arraignment expected within an hour or two on Murder 1st degree (I’m guessing 10 counts). FBI is investigating possible hate crime and terrorism.

He did live stream the incident on Twitch

There is a 106 page manifesto attributed to the shooter.
 
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Re: 10 killed in Buffalo mass shooting.

Sat May 14, 2022 10:17 pm

northstardc4m wrote:
He is from the southern tier of NY state (not more specific than that)


Souther Tier would include Allegany, Broom, Delaware and Steuben Counties. It’s right in the PA border and shares a lot in common with the PA counties adjacent to it. I think Binghamton is the largest town there (I could be mistaken) and that’s largely a university town. The rest of the region is quite rural.
 
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Re: 10 killed in Buffalo mass shooting.

Sat May 14, 2022 10:19 pm

Despicable act of terrorism.
 
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Re: 10 killed in Buffalo mass shooting.

Sat May 14, 2022 10:25 pm

Seems like an obvious hate crime akin to the El Paso Walmart shooting.
 
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Re: 10 killed in Buffalo mass shooting.

Sat May 14, 2022 10:28 pm

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Seems like an obvious hate crime akin to the El Paso Walmart shooting.

And Pittsburgh synagogue shooting.

All repeating MAGA/Fox News mantra of "great replacement theory".
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Re: 10 killed in Buffalo mass shooting.

Sat May 14, 2022 10:33 pm

But there was a good guy with a gun already there?
 
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Re: 10 killed in Buffalo mass shooting.

Sat May 14, 2022 10:35 pm

leader1 wrote:
northstardc4m wrote:
He is from the southern tier of NY state (not more specific than that)


Souther Tier would include Allegany, Broom, Delaware and Steuben Counties. It’s right in the PA border and shares a lot in common with the PA counties adjacent to it. I think Binghamton is the largest town there (I could be mistaken) and that’s largely a university town. The rest of the region is quite rural.

I've seen a few mentions of Broom County, so he drove 3.5 hours to do this, not unlike the guy that drove from Dallas to El Paso to shoot "immigrants" at the Walmart
 
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Re: 10 killed in Buffalo mass shooting.

Sat May 14, 2022 10:36 pm

TriJets wrote:
Despicable act of terrorism.


Surprised you’re throwing that out, seeing he was a white male and all.
 
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Re: 10 killed in Buffalo mass shooting.

Sat May 14, 2022 10:49 pm

Clutch101 wrote:
TriJets wrote:
Despicable act of terrorism.


Surprised you’re throwing that out, seeing he was a white male and all.


It is the truth.
 
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Re: 10 killed in Buffalo mass shooting.

Sat May 14, 2022 11:13 pm

leader1 wrote:
northstardc4m wrote:
He is from the southern tier of NY state (not more specific than that)


Souther Tier would include Allegany, Broom, Delaware and Steuben Counties. It’s right in the PA border and shares a lot in common with the PA counties adjacent to it. I think Binghamton is the largest town there (I could be mistaken) and that’s largely a university town. The rest of the region is quite rural.

I don’t know if I should post this but he is apparently from Conklin NY. Right outside Binghamton.

I also know his name but I’m not going to promote him by posting it.


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Re: 10 killed in Buffalo mass shooting.

Sat May 14, 2022 11:34 pm

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But there was a good guy with a gun already there?

Yes, there was Clutch, and he's dead now.
 
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Re: 10 killed in Buffalo mass shooting.

Sat May 14, 2022 11:37 pm

So, for the Record, is he a white, Liberal leaning, or Maga leaning 18 year old mass murderer?
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Re: 10 killed in Buffalo mass shooting.

Sat May 14, 2022 11:50 pm

DIRECTFLT wrote:
Clutch101 wrote:
But there was a good guy with a gun already there?

Yes, there was Clutch, and he's dead now.


Lot of good he was.
 
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Re: 10 killed in Buffalo mass shooting.

Sat May 14, 2022 11:55 pm

TriJets wrote:
Clutch101 wrote:
TriJets wrote:
Despicable act of terrorism.


Surprised you’re throwing that out, seeing he was a white male and all.


It is the truth.



Describe how it was a terroristic attack and not an angry young, white male, right wing MAGA supporter with an aversion to black people. Basically a normal MAGA person. You also had a retired cop there working security. Apparently he was of no use.
 
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Re: 10 killed in Buffalo mass shooting.

Sat May 14, 2022 11:58 pm

wingman wrote:
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NIKV69 wrote:

Nice try at the race smear but no. I don't sympathize with people who kill innocent people for any reason but as you proved with your response it seems the only racism that really counts or will addressed is this one so starting a topic on others is an exercise in futility.



Huh? How does my response prove my supposed views that only one type of racism matters? Seriously, point it out because I’m confused.


You’ll never prevail in a debate against a one taco combo platter. The synapses have been firing blanks for a long time now.


Agreed, tell me you're not racist, you know without actually saying it and all.
 
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Re: 10 killed in Buffalo mass shooting.

Sun May 15, 2022 12:03 am

The alleged mass gun murder was from the Binghamton, NY area. In 2009 a naturalized immigrant from Vietnam killed 13 and wounded several others by gun at a local civic association building that served a variety of immigrants from around the world and were victims. He also killed himself. https://www.yahoo.com/news/multiple-peo ... 56461.html
As this appears to be racially motivated act, the arrested mass murderer will be for sure be prosecuted under NY State 'hate crime' statutes, likely they will find incriminating materials at his residence as to his hate. Already many Black leaders, the local NAACP branch leader, a variety of politicians calling out the apparent hate motivating it as well as calls for more gun regulations.
 
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Re: 10 killed in Buffalo mass shooting.

Sun May 15, 2022 12:23 am

Surely it’s time to revisit the notion of a generic “latest US mass shooting” generic thread for the forum.

Those of us outside the US can only stay aghast for so long, and few in the US seem willed to do anything about the (on average) daily mass shootings.
 
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Re: 10 killed in Buffalo mass shooting.

Sun May 15, 2022 12:28 am

Clutch101 wrote:
TriJets wrote:
Clutch101 wrote:

Surprised you’re throwing that out, seeing he was a white male and all.


It is the truth.



Describe how it was a terroristic attack and not an angry young, white male, right wing MAGA supporter with an aversion to black people. Basically a normal MAGA person. You also had a retired cop there working security. Apparently he was of no use.


Well, for starters, there were 70 million "MAGA people" in the last election, and 69,999,999 of them didn't go on mass shooting sprees targeting black people.
 
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Re: 10 killed in Buffalo mass shooting.

Sun May 15, 2022 12:33 am

DIRECTFLT wrote:
So, for the Record, is he a white, Liberal leaning, or Maga leaning 18 year old mass murderer?


Not sure lean even matters. How about hate-filled psycho who spent too much time online and had his mind poisoned by parents or other influences? Also clearly never saw ‘American History X’
 
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Re: 10 killed in Buffalo mass shooting.

Sun May 15, 2022 12:35 am

Clutch101 wrote:
TriJets wrote:
Clutch101 wrote:

Surprised you’re throwing that out, seeing he was a white male and all.


It is the truth.



Describe how it was a terroristic attack and not an angry young, white male, right wing MAGA supporter with an aversion to black people. Basically a normal MAGA person. You also had a retired cop there working security. Apparently he was of no use.

This is why we will never be able to have conversations on subjects like this in the US. When you immediately label half the country as being of this type of behavior just bc you dont like them, you lose any chance of having a civil discourse.

Both sides are really good at it.
 
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Re: 10 killed in Buffalo mass shooting.

Sun May 15, 2022 12:37 am

DIRECTFLT wrote:
So, for the Record, is he a white, Liberal leaning, or Maga leaning 18 year old mass murderer?


The shooter has apparently left a manifesto in which they express concern about the “white replacement theory”, a racist idea pushed by the likes of Tucker Carlson.

The shooter apparently described himself as a “white supremacist”

Apparently motives similar to the Christchurch NZ shooter

https://bnonews.com/index.php/2022/05/m ... o-10-dead/

Pretty obvious this was not a Biden or Bernie supporter.....

EDIT:

Also it seems the shooter had written the “N word” on the barrel of his gun
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Re: 10 killed in Buffalo mass shooting.

Sun May 15, 2022 12:52 am

sierrakilo44 wrote:
DIRECTFLT wrote:
So, for the Record, is he a white, Liberal leaning, or Maga leaning 18 year old mass murderer?


The shooter has apparently left a manifesto in which they express concern about the “white replacement theory”, a racist idea pushed by the likes of Tucker Carlson.

The shooter apparently described himself as a “white supremacist”

Apparently motives similar to the Christchurch NZ shooter

https://bnonews.com/index.php/2022/05/m ... o-10-dead/

Pretty obvious this was not a Biden or Bernie supporter.....


He was also not poor. Judging by some photos that have surfaced of family celebrations, his parents had a well-appointed, at least middle class home.
 
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Re: 10 killed in Buffalo mass shooting.

Sun May 15, 2022 12:54 am

sierrakilo44 wrote:
DIRECTFLT wrote:
So, for the Record, is he a white, Liberal leaning, or Maga leaning 18 year old mass murderer?


The shooter has apparently left a manifesto in which they express concern about the “white replacement theory”, a racist idea pushed by the likes of Tucker Carlson.

The shooter apparently described himself as a “white supremacist”

Apparently motives similar to the Christchurch NZ shooter

https://bnonews.com/index.php/2022/05/m ... o-10-dead/

Pretty obvious this was not a Biden or Bernie supporter.....

EDIT:

Also it seems the shooter had written the “N word” on the barrel of his gun


What a complete scumbag. Wish the security guard had been able to dome him.
 
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Re: 10 killed in Buffalo mass shooting.

Sun May 15, 2022 1:00 am

TriJets wrote:
sierrakilo44 wrote:
DIRECTFLT wrote:
So, for the Record, is he a white, Liberal leaning, or Maga leaning 18 year old mass murderer?


The shooter has apparently left a manifesto in which they express concern about the “white replacement theory”, a racist idea pushed by the likes of Tucker Carlson.

The shooter apparently described himself as a “white supremacist”

Apparently motives similar to the Christchurch NZ shooter

https://bnonews.com/index.php/2022/05/m ... o-10-dead/

Pretty obvious this was not a Biden or Bernie supporter.....

EDIT:

Also it seems the shooter had written the “N word” on the barrel of his gun


What a complete scumbag. Wish the security guard had been able to dome him.


But he didn’t do the job he was paid to do, protect the customers. Kinda blows up the whole good guy with a gun. Hope the supermarket withholds any payments to his family seeing he failed to do his job.
 
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Re: 10 killed in Buffalo mass shooting.

Sun May 15, 2022 1:11 am

"But he didn’t do the job he was paid to do, protect the customers. Kinda blows up the whole good guy with a gun. Hope the supermarket withholds any payments to his family seeing he failed to do his job."

You really can't be serious. Lone security guard with a pistol against an individual in body armor and an automatic rifle.
 
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Re: 10 killed in Buffalo mass shooting.

Sun May 15, 2022 1:11 am

DIRECTFLT wrote:
So, for the Record, is he a white, Liberal leaning, or Maga leaning 18 year old mass murderer?

He's a raving lunatic racist that painted the N word on his gun, driving 3+ hours to murder black people specifically, driven by the words of Tucker Carlson, the GOP, and Fox News 24/7 incantations of Great Replacement Theory.

He's a moderate republican.
 
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Re: 10 killed in Buffalo mass shooting.

Sun May 15, 2022 1:19 am

sierrakilo44 wrote:
DIRECTFLT wrote:
So, for the Record, is he a white, Liberal leaning, or Maga leaning 18 year old mass murderer?


The shooter has apparently left a manifesto in which they express concern about the “white replacement theory”, a racist idea pushed by the likes of Tucker Carlson.

The shooter apparently described himself as a “white supremacist”

Apparently motives similar to the Christchurch NZ shooter

https://bnonews.com/index.php/2022/05/m ... o-10-dead/

Pretty obvious this was not a Biden or Bernie supporter.....

EDIT:

Also it seems the shooter had written the “N word” on the barrel of his gun


I also heard from some CNN "analyst" he had threatened his school with a massacre a few years ago. I'm not sure if this has been corroborated since I haven't found it anywhere else.
 
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Re: 10 killed in Buffalo mass shooting.

Sun May 15, 2022 1:20 am

Clutch101 wrote:
TriJets wrote:
sierrakilo44 wrote:

The shooter has apparently left a manifesto in which they express concern about the “white replacement theory”, a racist idea pushed by the likes of Tucker Carlson.

The shooter apparently described himself as a “white supremacist”

Apparently motives similar to the Christchurch NZ shooter

https://bnonews.com/index.php/2022/05/m ... o-10-dead/

Pretty obvious this was not a Biden or Bernie supporter.....

EDIT:

Also it seems the shooter had written the “N word” on the barrel of his gun


What a complete scumbag. Wish the security guard had been able to dome him.


But he didn’t do the job he was paid to do, protect the customers. Kinda blows up the whole good guy with a gun. Hope the supermarket withholds any payments to his family seeing he failed to do his job.


It really doesn't....most people who commit shootings aren't wearing body armor. But you really are a sick person, wishing harm on the family of a man who died trying to prevent a racist from murdering black people. I'm guessing you're just bummed that the gunman didn't kill more?
 
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Sun May 15, 2022 1:21 am

MohawkWeekend wrote:
"But he didn’t do the job he was paid to do, protect the customers. Kinda blows up the whole good guy with a gun. Hope the supermarket withholds any payments to his family seeing he failed to do his job."

You really can't be serious. Lone security guard with a pistol against an individual in body armor and an automatic rifle.


He probably is serious....hating on a man who died while trying to protect others because he thinks it helps him score a political point. Truly a soulless individual.
 
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Re: 10 killed in Buffalo mass shooting.

Sun May 15, 2022 1:22 am

MaverickM11 wrote:
DIRECTFLT wrote:
So, for the Record, is he a white, Liberal leaning, or Maga leaning 18 year old mass murderer?

He's a raving lunatic racist that painted the N word on his gun, driving 3+ hours to murder black people specifically, driven by the words of Tucker Carlson, the GOP, and Fox News 24/7 incantations of Great Replacement Theory.

He's a moderate republican.


So you are arguing that 70 million Americans are somehow mass murderers? Where are they hiding all the bodies? That's the same logic people used to bash Muslims after 9/11.
 
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Sun May 15, 2022 1:28 am

Once again, a toxic mix of easy access to powerful guns, believing in a sick racist ideology, young, inexperienced in life, the USA's horrible culture of guns and violence, possible mental illness, has led to 10 killed, others injured, a community in fear and so on.
 
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Sun May 15, 2022 1:33 am

TriJets wrote:
MaverickM11 wrote:
DIRECTFLT wrote:
So, for the Record, is he a white, Liberal leaning, or Maga leaning 18 year old mass murderer?

He's a raving lunatic racist that painted the N word on his gun, driving 3+ hours to murder black people specifically, driven by the words of Tucker Carlson, the GOP, and Fox News 24/7 incantations of Great Replacement Theory.

He's a moderate republican.


So you are arguing that 70 million Americans are somehow mass murderers? Where are they hiding all the bodies? That's the same logic people used to bash Muslims after 9/11.

Yes. 100% Yes. And those same people based Muslims after 9/11. In fact those same people voted for a candidate who promised to ban all Muslims....in 2016. Those are the same people that accused Obama of being a Muslim. Those are the same people that gulp down nightly the nuclear white rage emanating from Fox News that immigrants are going to replace us (El Paso mass shooter), or that Soros--read Jews--are helping immigrants replace us (Pittsburgh synagogue mass shooter).

Once again a thousand times yes. Can you name a single soul pushing against this Great Replacement tidal wave? If they exist they were probably primaried.
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Re: 10 killed in Buffalo mass shooting.

Sun May 15, 2022 1:35 am

MaverickM11 wrote:
TriJets wrote:
MaverickM11 wrote:
He's a raving lunatic racist that painted the N word on his gun, driving 3+ hours to murder black people specifically, driven by the words of Tucker Carlson, the GOP, and Fox News 24/7 incantations of Great Replacement Theory.

He's a moderate republican.


So you are arguing that 70 million Americans are somehow mass murderers? Where are they hiding all the bodies? That's the same logic people used to bash Muslims after 9/11.

Yes. 100% Yes. And those same people based Muslims after 9/11. In fact those same people voted for a candidate who promised to ban all Muslims.

Once again 100% yes.


Going by that logic, we're in real trouble because 81 million Biden voters are going to start massacring cops and burning all of our businesses down.
 
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Re: 10 killed in Buffalo mass shooting.

Sun May 15, 2022 1:39 am

MaverickM11 wrote:
DIRECTFLT wrote:
So, for the Record, is he a white, Liberal leaning, or Maga leaning 18 year old mass murderer?

He's a raving lunatic racist that painted the N word on his gun, driving 3+ hours to murder black people specifically, driven by the words of Tucker Carlson, the GOP, and Fox News 24/7 incantations of Great Replacement Theory.

He's a moderate republican.


To be fair, moderate conservatives are roundly criticizing both this shooting and the Tucker rhetoric that gets people to go online and check out Stormfront.

https://twitter.com/AdamKinzinger/statu ... 5lHs3303bw

https://twitter.com/secupp/status/15256 ... 5lHs3303bw
 
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Sun May 15, 2022 1:40 am

TriJets wrote:
MaverickM11 wrote:
TriJets wrote:

So you are arguing that 70 million Americans are somehow mass murderers? Where are they hiding all the bodies? That's the same logic people used to bash Muslims after 9/11.

Yes. 100% Yes. And those same people based Muslims after 9/11. In fact those same people voted for a candidate who promised to ban all Muslims.

Once again 100% yes.


Going by that logic, we're in real trouble because 81 million Biden voters are going to start massacring cops and burning all of our businesses down.

No one, and I mean no one, on the left has pushed for violence against cops or businesses. No one. The alphabet soup of militias are all right wing. The vast majority of domestic terrorism is right wing--more than liberal/environmental/Muslim inspired terrorism combined. Even TFG's acting secretary Chad Wolf admitted as much:

Acting Department of Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf said Wednesday during his confirmation hearing that white supremacists have become the “most persistent and lethal" internal "threat” to the U.S.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 511913001/

Those ain't progressives.
 
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Sun May 15, 2022 1:41 am

ltbewr wrote:
Once again, a toxic mix of easy access to powerful guns, believing in a sick racist ideology, young, inexperienced in life, the USA's horrible culture of guns and violence, possible mental illness, has led to 10 killed, others injured, a community in fear and so on.


Oh it's mass mental illness, 'possible' is a foregone conclusion. When's the last time anyone here wrote 108 pages about anything they weren't being paid to do?
 
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Sun May 15, 2022 1:43 am

Aaron747 wrote:
MaverickM11 wrote:
DIRECTFLT wrote:
So, for the Record, is he a white, Liberal leaning, or Maga leaning 18 year old mass murderer?

He's a raving lunatic racist that painted the N word on his gun, driving 3+ hours to murder black people specifically, driven by the words of Tucker Carlson, the GOP, and Fox News 24/7 incantations of Great Replacement Theory.

He's a moderate republican.


To be fair, moderate conservatives are roundly criticizing both this shooting and the Tucker rhetoric that gets people to go online and check out Stormfront.

https://twitter.com/AdamKinzinger/statu ... 5lHs3303bw

https://twitter.com/secupp/status/15256 ... 5lHs3303bw

Adam Kizinger has been frozen out of the conservative establishment, and SE Cupp, while she may be a perfectly nice and reasonable person, is a non entity.

These people may be 'moderate conservatives' but they are lepers in the GOP establishment.

This shooter acted on middle of the road, perfectly ordinary 2022 GOP incitement. Here's what Ted Nugent had to say, at a Trump rally, tonight, "I love you, but I would love you more if you went out and just went berserk on the skulls of the Democrats and the marxists and the communists.” The Buffalo shooter was just following orders from a party gone rabid.
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Re: 10 killed in Buffalo mass shooting.

Sun May 15, 2022 1:43 am

MaverickM11 wrote:
TriJets wrote:
MaverickM11 wrote:
Yes. 100% Yes. And those same people based Muslims after 9/11. In fact those same people voted for a candidate who promised to ban all Muslims.

Once again 100% yes.


Going by that logic, we're in real trouble because 81 million Biden voters are going to start massacring cops and burning all of our businesses down.

No one, and I mean no one, on the left has pushed for violence against cops or businesses. No one. The alphabet soup of militias are all right wing. The vast majority of domestic terrorism is right wing--more than liberal/environmental/Muslim inspired terrorism combined. Even TFG's acting secretary Chad Wolf admitted as much:

Acting Department of Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf said Wednesday during his confirmation hearing that white supremacists have become the “most persistent and lethal" internal "threat” to the U.S.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 511913001/

Those ain't progressives.


No one? Did you forget about the Summer of 2020?

The point is that you can't argue that a party is entirely represented by its fringe....because the left has a fringe that is pretty awful as well. Call extremism what it is, but don't make it something that it isn't-mainstream.
 
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START

Mass shooting

Thoughts and prayers

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Sun May 15, 2022 1:49 am

TriJets wrote:
MaverickM11 wrote:
TriJets wrote:

Going by that logic, we're in real trouble because 81 million Biden voters are going to start massacring cops and burning all of our businesses down.

No one, and I mean no one, on the left has pushed for violence against cops or businesses. No one. The alphabet soup of militias are all right wing. The vast majority of domestic terrorism is right wing--more than liberal/environmental/Muslim inspired terrorism combined. Even TFG's acting secretary Chad Wolf admitted as much:

Acting Department of Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf said Wednesday during his confirmation hearing that white supremacists have become the “most persistent and lethal" internal "threat” to the U.S.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 511913001/

Those ain't progressives.


No one? Did you forget about the Summer of 2020?

The point is that you can't argue that a party is entirely represented by its fringe....because the left has a fringe that is pretty awful as well. Call extremism what it is, but don't make it something that it isn't-mainstream.

Fringe? Honey *you* are the fringe, if you have any bit of reason, ethics, morals, or an aversion to violence. And again, no left leaning politician was encouraging violence at any point before, during, or after the Summer of 2020.
 
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Re: 10 killed in Buffalo mass shooting.

Sun May 15, 2022 1:58 am

MaverickM11 wrote:
Here's what Ted Nugent had to say, at a Trump rally, tonight, "I love you, but I would love you more if you went out and just went berserk on the skulls of the Democrats and the marxists and the communists.” The Buffalo shooter was just following orders from a party gone rabid.


Sick. I mean nobody wants to care what Ted thinks anyway, but he has millions of fans hanging on his every word.
 
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Sun May 15, 2022 1:59 am

TriJets wrote:
MaverickM11 wrote:
TriJets wrote:

Going by that logic, we're in real trouble because 81 million Biden voters are going to start massacring cops and burning all of our businesses down.

No one, and I mean no one, on the left has pushed for violence against cops or businesses. No one. The alphabet soup of militias are all right wing. The vast majority of domestic terrorism is right wing--more than liberal/environmental/Muslim inspired terrorism combined. Even TFG's acting secretary Chad Wolf admitted as much:

Acting Department of Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf said Wednesday during his confirmation hearing that white supremacists have become the “most persistent and lethal" internal "threat” to the U.S.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 511913001/

Those ain't progressives.


No one? Did you forget about the Summer of 2020?

The point is that you can't argue that a party is entirely represented by its fringe....because the left has a fringe that is pretty awful as well. Call extremism what it is, but don't make it something that it isn't-mainstream.


I followed those events closely and don't recall with specificity any major national politician or TV entity saying 'torch your city' or 'it's time to attack cops'. Care to clarify?

In case anyone forgot, the reason incitement to violence is associated with MAGA is because the figurehead of MAGA himself repeatedly called for violent responses at rallies - to huge applause.
 
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Re: 10 killed in Buffalo mass shooting.

Sun May 15, 2022 2:03 am

Aaron747 wrote:
TriJets wrote:
MaverickM11 wrote:
No one, and I mean no one, on the left has pushed for violence against cops or businesses. No one. The alphabet soup of militias are all right wing. The vast majority of domestic terrorism is right wing--more than liberal/environmental/Muslim inspired terrorism combined. Even TFG's acting secretary Chad Wolf admitted as much:

Acting Department of Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf said Wednesday during his confirmation hearing that white supremacists have become the “most persistent and lethal" internal "threat” to the U.S.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 511913001/

Those ain't progressives.


No one? Did you forget about the Summer of 2020?

The point is that you can't argue that a party is entirely represented by its fringe....because the left has a fringe that is pretty awful as well. Call extremism what it is, but don't make it something that it isn't-mainstream.


I followed those events closely and don't recall with specificity any major national politician or TV entity saying 'torch your city' or 'it's time to attack cops'. Care to clarify?

Nope. But here is 3rd ranking house Republican Elise Stefanik painting democrats as “pedo grifters” after the entire conservative asylum and GOP categorized every LGBTQ member or supporter as pedophiles. This is radio Rwanda territory.

https://twitter.com/deonteleologist/sta ... UAGLVEby0A

“The White House, House Dems, & usual pedo grifters are so out of touch with the American people that rather than present ANY PLAN or urgency to address the nationwide baby formula crisis, they double down on sending pallets of formula to the southern border. Joe Biden has NO PLAN”
 
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Sun May 15, 2022 2:08 am

MaverickM11 wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
TriJets wrote:

No one? Did you forget about the Summer of 2020?

The point is that you can't argue that a party is entirely represented by its fringe....because the left has a fringe that is pretty awful as well. Call extremism what it is, but don't make it something that it isn't-mainstream.


I followed those events closely and don't recall with specificity any major national politician or TV entity saying 'torch your city' or 'it's time to attack cops'. Care to clarify?

Nope. But here is 3rd ranking house Republican Elise Stefanik painting democrats as “pedo grifters” after the entire conservative asylum and GOP categorized every LGBTQ member or supporter as pedophiles. This is radio Rwanda territory.

https://twitter.com/deonteleologist/sta ... UAGLVEby0A

“The White House, House Dems, & usual pedo grifters are so out of touch with the American people that rather than present ANY PLAN or urgency to address the nationwide baby formula crisis, they double down on sending pallets of formula to the southern border. Joe Biden has NO PLAN”


Between keeping Asian students out and not cancelling Stefanik's degree, Harvard has zero institutional credibility left.
 
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Sun May 15, 2022 2:18 am

Aaron747 wrote:
MaverickM11 wrote:
Here's what Ted Nugent had to say, at a Trump rally, tonight, "I love you, but I would love you more if you went out and just went berserk on the skulls of the Democrats and the marxists and the communists.” The Buffalo shooter was just following orders from a party gone rabid.


Sick. I mean nobody wants to care what Ted thinks anyway, but he has millions of fans hanging on his every word.


I can guarantee you that right this moment there are at least three people from this site blaring Nugent right now.
 
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Sun May 15, 2022 2:26 am

TriJets,

Please spare me the hand wringing, pearl clutching rhetoric. Quit trying to deflect or move the goalposts with the 70 million BS, you know damn well your party is the party of hate. It's played daily on fox, fox and friends, hannity, carlson, ingraham etc. Sorry you were also aghast at the thought that a obviously trained, with many years of service, policeman didn't do the job he was paid to do. He could have saved many lives, but failed. What is that old saying you're very familiar with "When seconds count, the police are hours or days away" Well here you have a police officer right there! Lotta good he did.. You know, I heard a tall tale some time ago about somebodys family member being home alone when some Ninja's tried to break in, the family member yelled out they had a bazooka and scared the Ninja's away. Maybe somebody should have yelled that?
 
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Re: 10 killed in Buffalo mass shooting.

Sun May 15, 2022 2:40 am

Aaron747 wrote:
MaverickM11 wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:

I followed those events closely and don't recall with specificity any major national politician or TV entity saying 'torch your city' or 'it's time to attack cops'. Care to clarify?

Nope. But here is 3rd ranking house Republican Elise Stefanik painting democrats as “pedo grifters” after the entire conservative asylum and GOP categorized every LGBTQ member or supporter as pedophiles. This is radio Rwanda territory.

https://twitter.com/deonteleologist/sta ... UAGLVEby0A

“The White House, House Dems, & usual pedo grifters are so out of touch with the American people that rather than present ANY PLAN or urgency to address the nationwide baby formula crisis, they double down on sending pallets of formula to the southern border. Joe Biden has NO PLAN”


Between keeping Asian students out and not cancelling Stefanik's degree, Harvard has zero institutional credibility left.


Wasn't this moron also pushing into "Replacement Theory" territory recently?
 
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Sun May 15, 2022 2:42 am

SEAorPWM wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
MaverickM11 wrote:
Nope. But here is 3rd ranking house Republican Elise Stefanik painting democrats as “pedo grifters” after the entire conservative asylum and GOP categorized every LGBTQ member or supporter as pedophiles. This is radio Rwanda territory.

https://twitter.com/deonteleologist/sta ... UAGLVEby0A

“The White House, House Dems, & usual pedo grifters are so out of touch with the American people that rather than present ANY PLAN or urgency to address the nationwide baby formula crisis, they double down on sending pallets of formula to the southern border. Joe Biden has NO PLAN”


Between keeping Asian students out and not cancelling Stefanik's degree, Harvard has zero institutional credibility left.


Wasn't this moron also pushing into "Replacement Theory" territory recently?


Yes, her staff paid for Facebook ads basically advocating that nonsense.

https://twitter.com/TUSK81/status/15255 ... erK5ex36UA

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... nt-theory/

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