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northstardc4m wrote:He is from the southern tier of NY state (not more specific than that)
Aaron747 wrote:Seems like an obvious hate crime akin to the El Paso Walmart shooting.
leader1 wrote:northstardc4m wrote:He is from the southern tier of NY state (not more specific than that)
Souther Tier would include Allegany, Broom, Delaware and Steuben Counties. It’s right in the PA border and shares a lot in common with the PA counties adjacent to it. I think Binghamton is the largest town there (I could be mistaken) and that’s largely a university town. The rest of the region is quite rural.
TriJets wrote:Despicable act of terrorism.
Clutch101 wrote:TriJets wrote:Despicable act of terrorism.
Surprised you’re throwing that out, seeing he was a white male and all.
leader1 wrote:northstardc4m wrote:He is from the southern tier of NY state (not more specific than that)
Souther Tier would include Allegany, Broom, Delaware and Steuben Counties. It’s right in the PA border and shares a lot in common with the PA counties adjacent to it. I think Binghamton is the largest town there (I could be mistaken) and that’s largely a university town. The rest of the region is quite rural.
Clutch101 wrote:But there was a good guy with a gun already there?
DIRECTFLT wrote:Clutch101 wrote:But there was a good guy with a gun already there?
Yes, there was Clutch, and he's dead now.
TriJets wrote:Clutch101 wrote:TriJets wrote:Despicable act of terrorism.
Surprised you’re throwing that out, seeing he was a white male and all.
It is the truth.
wingman wrote:leader1 wrote:NIKV69 wrote:
Nice try at the race smear but no. I don't sympathize with people who kill innocent people for any reason but as you proved with your response it seems the only racism that really counts or will addressed is this one so starting a topic on others is an exercise in futility.
Huh? How does my response prove my supposed views that only one type of racism matters? Seriously, point it out because I’m confused.
You’ll never prevail in a debate against a one taco combo platter. The synapses have been firing blanks for a long time now.
Clutch101 wrote:TriJets wrote:Clutch101 wrote:
Surprised you’re throwing that out, seeing he was a white male and all.
It is the truth.
Describe how it was a terroristic attack and not an angry young, white male, right wing MAGA supporter with an aversion to black people. Basically a normal MAGA person. You also had a retired cop there working security. Apparently he was of no use.
DIRECTFLT wrote:So, for the Record, is he a white, Liberal leaning, or Maga leaning 18 year old mass murderer?
Clutch101 wrote:TriJets wrote:Clutch101 wrote:
Surprised you’re throwing that out, seeing he was a white male and all.
It is the truth.
Describe how it was a terroristic attack and not an angry young, white male, right wing MAGA supporter with an aversion to black people. Basically a normal MAGA person. You also had a retired cop there working security. Apparently he was of no use.
DIRECTFLT wrote:So, for the Record, is he a white, Liberal leaning, or Maga leaning 18 year old mass murderer?
sierrakilo44 wrote:DIRECTFLT wrote:So, for the Record, is he a white, Liberal leaning, or Maga leaning 18 year old mass murderer?
The shooter has apparently left a manifesto in which they express concern about the “white replacement theory”, a racist idea pushed by the likes of Tucker Carlson.
The shooter apparently described himself as a “white supremacist”
Apparently motives similar to the Christchurch NZ shooter
https://bnonews.com/index.php/2022/05/m ... o-10-dead/
Pretty obvious this was not a Biden or Bernie supporter.....
sierrakilo44 wrote:DIRECTFLT wrote:So, for the Record, is he a white, Liberal leaning, or Maga leaning 18 year old mass murderer?
The shooter has apparently left a manifesto in which they express concern about the “white replacement theory”, a racist idea pushed by the likes of Tucker Carlson.
The shooter apparently described himself as a “white supremacist”
Apparently motives similar to the Christchurch NZ shooter
https://bnonews.com/index.php/2022/05/m ... o-10-dead/
Pretty obvious this was not a Biden or Bernie supporter.....
EDIT:
Also it seems the shooter had written the “N word” on the barrel of his gun
TriJets wrote:sierrakilo44 wrote:DIRECTFLT wrote:So, for the Record, is he a white, Liberal leaning, or Maga leaning 18 year old mass murderer?
The shooter has apparently left a manifesto in which they express concern about the “white replacement theory”, a racist idea pushed by the likes of Tucker Carlson.
The shooter apparently described himself as a “white supremacist”
Apparently motives similar to the Christchurch NZ shooter
https://bnonews.com/index.php/2022/05/m ... o-10-dead/
Pretty obvious this was not a Biden or Bernie supporter.....
EDIT:
Also it seems the shooter had written the “N word” on the barrel of his gun
What a complete scumbag. Wish the security guard had been able to dome him.
DIRECTFLT wrote:So, for the Record, is he a white, Liberal leaning, or Maga leaning 18 year old mass murderer?
sierrakilo44 wrote:DIRECTFLT wrote:So, for the Record, is he a white, Liberal leaning, or Maga leaning 18 year old mass murderer?
The shooter has apparently left a manifesto in which they express concern about the “white replacement theory”, a racist idea pushed by the likes of Tucker Carlson.
The shooter apparently described himself as a “white supremacist”
Apparently motives similar to the Christchurch NZ shooter
https://bnonews.com/index.php/2022/05/m ... o-10-dead/
Pretty obvious this was not a Biden or Bernie supporter.....
EDIT:
Also it seems the shooter had written the “N word” on the barrel of his gun
Clutch101 wrote:TriJets wrote:sierrakilo44 wrote:
The shooter has apparently left a manifesto in which they express concern about the “white replacement theory”, a racist idea pushed by the likes of Tucker Carlson.
The shooter apparently described himself as a “white supremacist”
Apparently motives similar to the Christchurch NZ shooter
https://bnonews.com/index.php/2022/05/m ... o-10-dead/
Pretty obvious this was not a Biden or Bernie supporter.....
EDIT:
Also it seems the shooter had written the “N word” on the barrel of his gun
What a complete scumbag. Wish the security guard had been able to dome him.
But he didn’t do the job he was paid to do, protect the customers. Kinda blows up the whole good guy with a gun. Hope the supermarket withholds any payments to his family seeing he failed to do his job.
MohawkWeekend wrote:"But he didn’t do the job he was paid to do, protect the customers. Kinda blows up the whole good guy with a gun. Hope the supermarket withholds any payments to his family seeing he failed to do his job."
You really can't be serious. Lone security guard with a pistol against an individual in body armor and an automatic rifle.
MaverickM11 wrote:DIRECTFLT wrote:So, for the Record, is he a white, Liberal leaning, or Maga leaning 18 year old mass murderer?
He's a raving lunatic racist that painted the N word on his gun, driving 3+ hours to murder black people specifically, driven by the words of Tucker Carlson, the GOP, and Fox News 24/7 incantations of Great Replacement Theory.
He's a moderate republican.
TriJets wrote:MaverickM11 wrote:DIRECTFLT wrote:So, for the Record, is he a white, Liberal leaning, or Maga leaning 18 year old mass murderer?
He's a raving lunatic racist that painted the N word on his gun, driving 3+ hours to murder black people specifically, driven by the words of Tucker Carlson, the GOP, and Fox News 24/7 incantations of Great Replacement Theory.
He's a moderate republican.
So you are arguing that 70 million Americans are somehow mass murderers? Where are they hiding all the bodies? That's the same logic people used to bash Muslims after 9/11.
MaverickM11 wrote:TriJets wrote:MaverickM11 wrote:He's a raving lunatic racist that painted the N word on his gun, driving 3+ hours to murder black people specifically, driven by the words of Tucker Carlson, the GOP, and Fox News 24/7 incantations of Great Replacement Theory.
He's a moderate republican.
So you are arguing that 70 million Americans are somehow mass murderers? Where are they hiding all the bodies? That's the same logic people used to bash Muslims after 9/11.
Yes. 100% Yes. And those same people based Muslims after 9/11. In fact those same people voted for a candidate who promised to ban all Muslims.
Once again 100% yes.
MaverickM11 wrote:DIRECTFLT wrote:So, for the Record, is he a white, Liberal leaning, or Maga leaning 18 year old mass murderer?
He's a raving lunatic racist that painted the N word on his gun, driving 3+ hours to murder black people specifically, driven by the words of Tucker Carlson, the GOP, and Fox News 24/7 incantations of Great Replacement Theory.
He's a moderate republican.
TriJets wrote:MaverickM11 wrote:TriJets wrote:
So you are arguing that 70 million Americans are somehow mass murderers? Where are they hiding all the bodies? That's the same logic people used to bash Muslims after 9/11.
Yes. 100% Yes. And those same people based Muslims after 9/11. In fact those same people voted for a candidate who promised to ban all Muslims.
Once again 100% yes.
Going by that logic, we're in real trouble because 81 million Biden voters are going to start massacring cops and burning all of our businesses down.
ltbewr wrote:Once again, a toxic mix of easy access to powerful guns, believing in a sick racist ideology, young, inexperienced in life, the USA's horrible culture of guns and violence, possible mental illness, has led to 10 killed, others injured, a community in fear and so on.
Aaron747 wrote:MaverickM11 wrote:DIRECTFLT wrote:So, for the Record, is he a white, Liberal leaning, or Maga leaning 18 year old mass murderer?
He's a raving lunatic racist that painted the N word on his gun, driving 3+ hours to murder black people specifically, driven by the words of Tucker Carlson, the GOP, and Fox News 24/7 incantations of Great Replacement Theory.
He's a moderate republican.
To be fair, moderate conservatives are roundly criticizing both this shooting and the Tucker rhetoric that gets people to go online and check out Stormfront.
https://twitter.com/AdamKinzinger/statu ... 5lHs3303bw
https://twitter.com/secupp/status/15256 ... 5lHs3303bw
MaverickM11 wrote:TriJets wrote:MaverickM11 wrote:Yes. 100% Yes. And those same people based Muslims after 9/11. In fact those same people voted for a candidate who promised to ban all Muslims.
Once again 100% yes.
Going by that logic, we're in real trouble because 81 million Biden voters are going to start massacring cops and burning all of our businesses down.
No one, and I mean no one, on the left has pushed for violence against cops or businesses. No one. The alphabet soup of militias are all right wing. The vast majority of domestic terrorism is right wing--more than liberal/environmental/Muslim inspired terrorism combined. Even TFG's acting secretary Chad Wolf admitted as much:
Acting Department of Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf said Wednesday during his confirmation hearing that white supremacists have become the “most persistent and lethal" internal "threat” to the U.S.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 511913001/
Those ain't progressives.
TriJets wrote:MaverickM11 wrote:TriJets wrote:
Going by that logic, we're in real trouble because 81 million Biden voters are going to start massacring cops and burning all of our businesses down.
No one, and I mean no one, on the left has pushed for violence against cops or businesses. No one. The alphabet soup of militias are all right wing. The vast majority of domestic terrorism is right wing--more than liberal/environmental/Muslim inspired terrorism combined. Even TFG's acting secretary Chad Wolf admitted as much:
Acting Department of Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf said Wednesday during his confirmation hearing that white supremacists have become the “most persistent and lethal" internal "threat” to the U.S.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 511913001/
Those ain't progressives.
No one? Did you forget about the Summer of 2020?
The point is that you can't argue that a party is entirely represented by its fringe....because the left has a fringe that is pretty awful as well. Call extremism what it is, but don't make it something that it isn't-mainstream.
MaverickM11 wrote:Here's what Ted Nugent had to say, at a Trump rally, tonight, "I love you, but I would love you more if you went out and just went berserk on the skulls of the Democrats and the marxists and the communists.” The Buffalo shooter was just following orders from a party gone rabid.
TriJets wrote:MaverickM11 wrote:TriJets wrote:
Going by that logic, we're in real trouble because 81 million Biden voters are going to start massacring cops and burning all of our businesses down.
No one, and I mean no one, on the left has pushed for violence against cops or businesses. No one. The alphabet soup of militias are all right wing. The vast majority of domestic terrorism is right wing--more than liberal/environmental/Muslim inspired terrorism combined. Even TFG's acting secretary Chad Wolf admitted as much:
Acting Department of Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf said Wednesday during his confirmation hearing that white supremacists have become the “most persistent and lethal" internal "threat” to the U.S.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 511913001/
Those ain't progressives.
No one? Did you forget about the Summer of 2020?
The point is that you can't argue that a party is entirely represented by its fringe....because the left has a fringe that is pretty awful as well. Call extremism what it is, but don't make it something that it isn't-mainstream.
Aaron747 wrote:TriJets wrote:MaverickM11 wrote:No one, and I mean no one, on the left has pushed for violence against cops or businesses. No one. The alphabet soup of militias are all right wing. The vast majority of domestic terrorism is right wing--more than liberal/environmental/Muslim inspired terrorism combined. Even TFG's acting secretary Chad Wolf admitted as much:
Acting Department of Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf said Wednesday during his confirmation hearing that white supremacists have become the “most persistent and lethal" internal "threat” to the U.S.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 511913001/
Those ain't progressives.
No one? Did you forget about the Summer of 2020?
The point is that you can't argue that a party is entirely represented by its fringe....because the left has a fringe that is pretty awful as well. Call extremism what it is, but don't make it something that it isn't-mainstream.
I followed those events closely and don't recall with specificity any major national politician or TV entity saying 'torch your city' or 'it's time to attack cops'. Care to clarify?
MaverickM11 wrote:Aaron747 wrote:TriJets wrote:
No one? Did you forget about the Summer of 2020?
The point is that you can't argue that a party is entirely represented by its fringe....because the left has a fringe that is pretty awful as well. Call extremism what it is, but don't make it something that it isn't-mainstream.
I followed those events closely and don't recall with specificity any major national politician or TV entity saying 'torch your city' or 'it's time to attack cops'. Care to clarify?
Nope. But here is 3rd ranking house Republican Elise Stefanik painting democrats as “pedo grifters” after the entire conservative asylum and GOP categorized every LGBTQ member or supporter as pedophiles. This is radio Rwanda territory.
https://twitter.com/deonteleologist/sta ... UAGLVEby0A
“The White House, House Dems, & usual pedo grifters are so out of touch with the American people that rather than present ANY PLAN or urgency to address the nationwide baby formula crisis, they double down on sending pallets of formula to the southern border. Joe Biden has NO PLAN”
Aaron747 wrote:MaverickM11 wrote:Here's what Ted Nugent had to say, at a Trump rally, tonight, "I love you, but I would love you more if you went out and just went berserk on the skulls of the Democrats and the marxists and the communists.” The Buffalo shooter was just following orders from a party gone rabid.
Sick. I mean nobody wants to care what Ted thinks anyway, but he has millions of fans hanging on his every word.
Aaron747 wrote:MaverickM11 wrote:Aaron747 wrote:
I followed those events closely and don't recall with specificity any major national politician or TV entity saying 'torch your city' or 'it's time to attack cops'. Care to clarify?
Nope. But here is 3rd ranking house Republican Elise Stefanik painting democrats as “pedo grifters” after the entire conservative asylum and GOP categorized every LGBTQ member or supporter as pedophiles. This is radio Rwanda territory.
https://twitter.com/deonteleologist/sta ... UAGLVEby0A
“The White House, House Dems, & usual pedo grifters are so out of touch with the American people that rather than present ANY PLAN or urgency to address the nationwide baby formula crisis, they double down on sending pallets of formula to the southern border. Joe Biden has NO PLAN”
Between keeping Asian students out and not cancelling Stefanik's degree, Harvard has zero institutional credibility left.
SEAorPWM wrote:Aaron747 wrote:MaverickM11 wrote:Nope. But here is 3rd ranking house Republican Elise Stefanik painting democrats as “pedo grifters” after the entire conservative asylum and GOP categorized every LGBTQ member or supporter as pedophiles. This is radio Rwanda territory.
https://twitter.com/deonteleologist/sta ... UAGLVEby0A
“The White House, House Dems, & usual pedo grifters are so out of touch with the American people that rather than present ANY PLAN or urgency to address the nationwide baby formula crisis, they double down on sending pallets of formula to the southern border. Joe Biden has NO PLAN”
Between keeping Asian students out and not cancelling Stefanik's degree, Harvard has zero institutional credibility left.
Wasn't this moron also pushing into "Replacement Theory" territory recently?