Avatar2go wrote:afcjets wrote:
It is not categorically false. First off there was more than one entry point and this was not a coordinated effort (by Trump or his supporters at least). You can watch the videos below and believe and spin however you want.
"The optics are striking: Capitol police stood around as protesters entered the Senate chambers and made speeches. Dozens entered the Capitol building after literally having the door held open for them, and then merely walked in a single file line and took pictures.
This is false. All of the entrances of the building were locked, and all were forced. Officers were outnumbered and unable to stop the mob, so they moved back into the building or tried to maintain order. In the investigation of officer actions that day, none were charged with aiding and abetting the protestors, because it didn't happen.afcjets wrote:
In fact, the FBI has not charged any of the protesters with “insurrection” or “treason”; the most widespread investigation in U.S. history, according to the bureau, has been unable to turn up any evidence of a centralized plot to install Donald Trump.
This is false. In January and June of 2022, members of the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys have been charged with sedition. Further, both groups have said they answered the call from Trump to converge on the Capitol, and they came armed, organized, and prepared to do so. The goal was to disrupt the electoral vote certification, which is why it was scheduled for January 6th. As Trump had repeatedly called upon supporters to advocate.afcjets wrote:
“The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials,” Reuters reported.
“Though federal officials have arrested more than 570 alleged participants, the FBI at this point believes the violence was not centrally coordinated by far-right groups or prominent supporters of then-President Donald Trump, according to the sources, who have been either directly involved in or briefed regularly on the wide-ranging investigations,” the report continued.
“Ninety to ninety-five percent of these are one-off cases,” said a former senior law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation. “Then you have five percent, maybe, of these militia groups that were more closely organized. But there was no grand scheme with Roger Stone and Alex Jones and all of these people to storm the Capitol and take hostages.”
This is true, but disengenous. The Trump team did not directly organize the riot in advance. But they did ask protestors to come to the Capitol on January 6, and they did then incite the crowd to march on the Capitol, and they did then publicly identify the VP as a traitor, and they did then imply that the election was being stolen with action needed, and they did not take action to stop the violence once it had begun, because it was their full intent.afcjets wrote:
Then there were also fringe extremists who caused disruption and chaos, but not necessarily with the aim to install Donald Trump by force.
This is false. Almost all the arrested protestors have said they understood Trump's statements to be a call to action, to prevent the election certification from happening. That is why they stormed the building and sought out the chambers where the proceedings we're taking place.
The effort to install Trump as president was separate from the riot, it was based on the VP rejecting the legal slates of electors. But when Pence refused, the riots ensued as a direct result.
You provide no sources. Of course the protestors are going to give them want they want. Trump is their ultimate target so you better say Trump made you do it if you want any chance of being set free is what I would be thinking if I were one of them or their attorney. No one had been charged with insurrection, treason or sedition when the article was written late last year and with our current polarizing attorney general, it shouldn't be any surprise a few were ultimately charged.