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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:04 am

In a Twitter Spaces audio discussion between journalists, Musk popped in for a few minutes to explain his rational for suspending journalists.

He claims that if a journalist provides a link to a site that he has determined is doxxing, in the course of reporting, that is equivalent to doxxing. No exceptions for journalists or the media.

https://twitter.com/ForeverEversley/sta ... 0892918784
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:16 am

Avatar2go wrote:
In a Twitter Spaces audio discussion between journalists, Musk popped in for a few minutes to explain his rational for suspending journalists.

He claims that if a journalist provides a link to a site that he has determined is doxxing, in the course of reporting, that is equivalent to doxxing. No exceptions for journalists or the media.

https://twitter.com/ForeverEversley/sta ... 0892918784


What a doofus. Aircraft whereabouts are not ‘doxxing’. If he goes through the proper procedures he can get NxxxTS blocked.

Even more pathetic is that the first poll he put out had a slight victory on the side of unsuspending everyone. He said it had ‘too many options’ and put the poll up again, but it’s still losing.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/160 ... lFsEqhUb2A
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:35 am

Aaron747 wrote:
Avatar2go wrote:
In a Twitter Spaces audio discussion between journalists, Musk popped in for a few minutes to explain his rational for suspending journalists.

He claims that if a journalist provides a link to a site that he has determined is doxxing, in the course of reporting, that is equivalent to doxxing. No exceptions for journalists or the media.

https://twitter.com/ForeverEversley/sta ... 0892918784


What a doofus. Aircraft whereabouts are not ‘doxxing’. If he goes through the proper procedures he can get NxxxTS blocked.

Even more pathetic is that the first poll he put out had a slight victory on the side of unsuspending everyone. He said it had ‘too many options’ and put the poll up again, but it’s still losing.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/160 ... lFsEqhUb2A


Contesting the result of a vote? Wonder where he got that idea from?
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:02 am

Multiple Prominent Journalists Suspended by Twitter as Elon Musk Cracks Down

Among those suspended were former MSNBC and ESPN host Keith Olbermann, and CNN correspondent Donie O’Sullivan. Other journalists suspended on Thursday included New York Times reporter Ryan Mac, Washington Post reporter Drew Harwell, Matt Binder of Mashable, and freelance journalist Aaron Rupar.

 Alex Heath, an editor at The Verge, said that Twitter’s head of trust and safety suggested to him that the suspensions were related to the new policy change.

“Same doxxing rules apply to ‘journalists’ as to everyone else,” Musk tweeted Thursday in response to a tweet about the suspensions.


https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/busin ... 235283306/

I laugh at Keith Olbermann getting suspended!!! :lol:
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:19 am

How long before Tesla shareholders become annoyed and start sueing the company for having a CEO devoting its time to Twitter instead of Tesla? When I read the financial press, even the die hard Tesla supporters becoming more anti-Musk about the current situation, some of whom even question whether he should be the CEO Tesla needs given the situation Tesla is in. Moreover, it's clear he sold shares whereas he initially mentioned not to do that anymore. Wouldn't surprise me if some no-cure-no-pay lawyer is goign to start something against the company. After all, when people loose moey they usually try to blame it on someone else besides their own stupidity.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:20 pm

GDB wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
Avatar2go wrote:
In a Twitter Spaces audio discussion between journalists, Musk popped in for a few minutes to explain his rational for suspending journalists.

He claims that if a journalist provides a link to a site that he has determined is doxxing, in the course of reporting, that is equivalent to doxxing. No exceptions for journalists or the media.

https://twitter.com/ForeverEversley/sta ... 0892918784


What a doofus. Aircraft whereabouts are not ‘doxxing’. If he goes through the proper procedures he can get NxxxTS blocked.

Even more pathetic is that the first poll he put out had a slight victory on the side of unsuspending everyone. He said it had ‘too many options’ and put the poll up again, but it’s still losing.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/160 ... lFsEqhUb2A


Contesting the result of a vote? Wonder where he got that idea from?


Wait! Have Trump and Musk ever been seen in the same room at the same time?

[Twilight Zone music intensifies]






Disclaimer: Not a serious question.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:27 pm

Aaron747 wrote:
What a doofus. Aircraft whereabouts are not ‘doxxing’. If he goes through the proper procedures he can get NxxxTS blocked.


As was discussed in the thread in civ-av when Musk first tried to get that kid to stop tracking his plane, there are sites like ADSB Exchange that do not block any planes. Also, any private individual with a personal ADSB receiver will also pick up all planes within range, regardless of whether they're blocked by some sites or not.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Fri Dec 16, 2022 1:08 pm

scbriml wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
What a doofus. Aircraft whereabouts are not ‘doxxing’. If he goes through the proper procedures he can get NxxxTS blocked.


As was discussed in the thread in civ-av when Musk first tried to get that kid to stop tracking his plane, there are sites like ADSB Exchange that do not block any planes. Also, any private individual with a personal ADSB receiver will also pick up all planes within range, regardless of whether they're blocked by some sites or not.


He has suspended ADBS Exchange as well.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Fri Dec 16, 2022 1:28 pm

Avatar2go wrote:
scbriml wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
What a doofus. Aircraft whereabouts are not ‘doxxing’. If he goes through the proper procedures he can get NxxxTS blocked.


As was discussed in the thread in civ-av when Musk first tried to get that kid to stop tracking his plane, there are sites like ADSB Exchange that do not block any planes. Also, any private individual with a personal ADSB receiver will also pick up all planes within range, regardless of whether they're blocked by some sites or not.


He has suspended ADBS Exchange as well.
Just the Twitter account, not the website.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Fri Dec 16, 2022 1:43 pm

DIRECTFLT wrote:
Multiple Prominent Journalists Suspended by Twitter as Elon Musk Cracks Down

Among those suspended were former MSNBC and ESPN host Keith Olbermann, and CNN correspondent Donie O’Sullivan. Other journalists suspended on Thursday included New York Times reporter Ryan Mac, Washington Post reporter Drew Harwell, Matt Binder of Mashable, and freelance journalist Aaron Rupar.

 Alex Heath, an editor at The Verge, said that Twitter’s head of trust and safety suggested to him that the suspensions were related to the new policy change.

“Same doxxing rules apply to ‘journalists’ as to everyone else,” Musk tweeted Thursday in response to a tweet about the suspensions.


https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/busin ... 235283306/

I laugh at Keith Olbermann getting suspended!!! :lol:


Musk should even the field and suspend few Fox News anchors as well.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Fri Dec 16, 2022 1:50 pm

Avatar2go wrote:
scbriml wrote:
Aaron747 wrote:
What a doofus. Aircraft whereabouts are not ‘doxxing’. If he goes through the proper procedures he can get NxxxTS blocked.


As was discussed in the thread in civ-av when Musk first tried to get that kid to stop tracking his plane, there are sites like ADSB Exchange that do not block any planes. Also, any private individual with a personal ADSB receiver will also pick up all planes within range, regardless of whether they're blocked by some sites or not.


He has suspended ADBS Exchange as well.


Yes, I saw that. Pretty pointless because they're a web-based site.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:32 pm

LJ wrote:
How long before Tesla shareholders become annoyed and start sueing the company for having a CEO devoting its time to Twitter instead of Tesla? When I read the financial press, even the die hard Tesla supporters becoming more anti-Musk about the current situation, some of whom even question whether he should be the CEO Tesla needs given the situation Tesla is in. Moreover, it's clear he sold shares whereas he initially mentioned not to do that anymore. Wouldn't surprise me if some no-cure-no-pay lawyer is goign to start something against the company. After all, when people loose moey they usually try to blame it on someone else besides their own stupidity.


Elon hates that Tesla is publicly traded.

The slide in Tesla stock tells the story, I'm sure there are competent leaders actually running the company and making the decisions.
I'm sure the board will make those decisions long before a courtroom does.

If he is removed as the CEO of Tesla, grab the popcorn as it will be epic.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:33 pm

Francoflier wrote:
casinterest wrote:
Now journalists are getting banned.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 46293.html

Twitter has suspended the account of prominent liberal journalist Aaron Rupar as well as reporters from CNN, The New York Times and The Washington Post.

Rupar, who has more than 788,000 followers, had his account suspended the day after Twitter suspended then restored an account that followed the movements of the billionaire’s private jet.


Musk has completely lost the trail here. I imagine paranoia is setting in now that he got booed with Chapelle, had a deeply unsettling attack on his family occur, and now all the investors in Tesla are getting upset about their loss of money.

I don't know where this ends, but I am guessing Musk is going to get a lot worse before he gets better.


Here's another non-paywalled article:

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-med ... -rcna62032

It also says he has suspended Mastodon's Twitter account...


Fame and fortune can do some amazing things to people's brain. Some handle it better than others. It seems to have hit Elon pretty hard and given him a massive case of megalomania and God-syndrome.

His Twitter power-trip is costing him dearly however. It's amazing to watch him sell more TSLA shares to fund his purchase of the platform he is running to the ground, while at the same time severely deflating the value of the stock.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... es-twitter

Now that he's down to selling the furniture, it appears that he may want to take SpaceX public, which will be very interesting to watch.

SpaceX is another very hyped Musk venture, one that appears to be doing well on the face of it. Of course, there is no way to know for sure since the company is private for now, but selling it will no doubt reveal a lot about their finances.

I'm sure there's enough of the Elon-hype still going around for those shares to be sold at an inflated price, but there is so much we don't know about how much Starlink and Starship development are costing them and the actual nature and viability of their business model. I can't wait.


The worst of it is that Musk is doing the exact opposite of what he promised to do on the site As Avatar2go pointed out, he brought back all these folks that were banned by rules he didn't agree with. And now he is banning people for rules that are made up by him.

Twitter is not a site for free speech. It is like a 44 Billion dollar Brewster's millions challenge that is limiting people's ability to communicate.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Fri Dec 16, 2022 4:42 pm

EU is now considering sanctions against Twitter, for failing to respect media freedom, which is one of the tenets of the Digital Services Act.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63996061
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Fri Dec 16, 2022 4:48 pm

StarAC17 wrote:
LJ wrote:
How long before Tesla shareholders become annoyed and start sueing the company for having a CEO devoting its time to Twitter instead of Tesla? When I read the financial press, even the die hard Tesla supporters becoming more anti-Musk about the current situation, some of whom even question whether he should be the CEO Tesla needs given the situation Tesla is in. Moreover, it's clear he sold shares whereas he initially mentioned not to do that anymore. Wouldn't surprise me if some no-cure-no-pay lawyer is goign to start something against the company. After all, when people loose moey they usually try to blame it on someone else besides their own stupidity.


Elon hates that Tesla is publicly traded.

The slide in Tesla stock tells the story, I'm sure there are competent leaders actually running the company and making the decisions.
I'm sure the board will make those decisions long before a courtroom does.

If he is removed as the CEO of Tesla, grab the popcorn as it will be epic.


To be honest, I fear he will retaliate and dump Tesla shares just to prove a point (not that I own Tesla shares, it's just a pitty investors would be hurt in such a case). The only positive thing is that he needs the shares till the margin loans have been repaid (and cannot sell after today). Moreover, he cannot even sell those shares without repaying the loan and a dropping shareprice just increases the underlying number of shares (unless he puts cash or other assets as collateral). Anyway, I agree, when they oust Musk as CEO of Tesla, we can grab some popcorn and enjoy the fight.

BTW I hope that a documentary maker is following Musk as I really would like to know what goes on in his surroundings at the moment Moreover, as a fan of documentaries, I'm always amazed that some people let filmmakers so close to them (especially the type who is so full of themselves).
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Fri Dec 16, 2022 4:57 pm

Anyone else noticed algorithm changes recently? I've never been especially politically active on twitter (especially in the US sphere) but a day or two ago my recommendation were entirely from the hard right; Tomi Lahren, one of Trump's ex press secretaries, Matt Gaetz, Tucker Carlson and a few others whose twitter bios made it clear they were culture warriors from the far right of the politicalspectrum.

Most of the people I follow on Twitter are from the aviation, geopolitics, investigative journalism, foreign policy, business and F1 spheres, so the recommendation algorithm is clearly disconnected from the people that I actually follow.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:17 pm

LJ wrote:

BTW I hope that a documentary maker is following Musk as I really would like to know what goes on in his surroundings at the moment Moreover, as a fan of documentaries, I'm always amazed that some people let filmmakers so close to them (especially the type who is so full of themselves).



Oh I sure hope there is a filmmaker or three following Elon around! It will be epic viewing when that documentary with all the 'behind the scenes' comes out.

And I think the 'full of themselves' types are more likely to let the filmmakers in to begin with. "You want to make a film about me? Sign me up!"
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Fri Dec 16, 2022 7:14 pm

TangoandCash wrote:
LJ wrote:

BTW I hope that a documentary maker is following Musk as I really would like to know what goes on in his surroundings at the moment Moreover, as a fan of documentaries, I'm always amazed that some people let filmmakers so close to them (especially the type who is so full of themselves).



Oh I sure hope there is a filmmaker or three following Elon around! It will be epic viewing when that documentary with all the 'behind the scenes' comes out.

And I think the 'full of themselves' types are more likely to let the filmmakers in to begin with. "You want to make a film about me? Sign me up!"


They generally have such an ego that they fail to see the risks.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Fri Dec 16, 2022 7:18 pm

StarAC17 wrote:
LJ wrote:
How long before Tesla shareholders become annoyed and start sueing the company for having a CEO devoting its time to Twitter instead of Tesla? When I read the financial press, even the die hard Tesla supporters becoming more anti-Musk about the current situation, some of whom even question whether he should be the CEO Tesla needs given the situation Tesla is in. Moreover, it's clear he sold shares whereas he initially mentioned not to do that anymore. Wouldn't surprise me if some no-cure-no-pay lawyer is goign to start something against the company. After all, when people loose moey they usually try to blame it on someone else besides their own stupidity.


Elon hates that Tesla is publicly traded.

The slide in Tesla stock tells the story, I'm sure there are competent leaders actually running the company and making the decisions.
I'm sure the board will make those decisions long before a courtroom does.

If he is removed as the CEO of Tesla, grab the popcorn as it will be epic.

https://www.thestreet.com/investing/sto ... e-14564491

Dual class shares my man. Not that easy.

There's a reason Zuck is still around.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Fri Dec 16, 2022 8:41 pm

Not interested in any politics or other BS. Just interested in the aviation angle. Does anyone know if Sweeny's accounts will be showing up on any other platforms?
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:33 pm

zkojq wrote:
Anyone else noticed algorithm changes recently? I've never been especially politically active on twitter (especially in the US sphere) but a day or two ago my recommendation were entirely from the hard right; Tomi Lahren, one of Trump's ex press secretaries, Matt Gaetz, Tucker Carlson and a few others whose twitter bios made it clear they were culture warriors from the far right of the politicalspectrum.

Most of the people I follow on Twitter are from the aviation, geopolitics, investigative journalism, foreign policy, business and F1 spheres, so the recommendation algorithm is clearly disconnected from the people that I actually follow.


For sure. I get suggested tweets from Stephen Miller, Jack Posobiec, David Barton and other right-wing nutbars. I don't follow a lot of political topics either. Also getting a lot of wumao suggestions (for those who don't know, wumao are posters who get paid by the CCP to post shit promoting the CCP narrative - almost always low-quality posts). More bots than before, too. The site has gone to hell. I always thought Twitter moderation was the worst of the major social networks, but it's just unusable at this point. No wonder ad agencies are breaking ties.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:04 pm

n92r03 wrote:
Not interested in any politics or other BS. Just interested in the aviation angle. Does anyone know if Sweeny's accounts will be showing up on any other platforms?

If his won't, certainly somebody else will take it up upon principle. The location of the aircraft is public knowledge. I understand that Musk being a public figure has to worry about the safety of his family. But...he's chosen to be as high profile as he is. He's not famous just for being an automobile CEO -- it's because he likes the attention and has fostered it. So, maybe don't be a high profile ass.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Sat Dec 17, 2022 8:50 am

Has he, the genius, finally twigged that the saying 'when in a hole, stop digging' now applies even to him and his ego?
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... ournalists
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Sat Dec 17, 2022 9:39 am

Meanwhile representatives of Elon Musk are reportedly looking for new investors into Twitter. Oddly enough, the asking price seems to be USD 54.20 a share, the same amount as Musk paid to take Twitter private.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musks-team-seeks-investors-215746923.html
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Sat Dec 17, 2022 1:08 pm

leader1 wrote:
For sure. I get suggested tweets from Stephen Miller, Jack Posobiec, David Barton and other right-wing nutbars. I don't follow a lot of political topics either. Also getting a lot of wumao suggestions (for those who don't know, wumao are posters who get paid by the CCP to post shit promoting the CCP narrative - almost always low-quality posts).



Ah yes, I got a Steven Miller recommendation too.

leader1 wrote:
More bots than before, too. The site has gone to hell. I always thought Twitter moderation was the worst of the major social networks, but it's just unusable at this point. No wonder ad agencies are breaking ties.


Who would have thought that getting rid of 75-80% of the workforce might have an effect on the quality of the product/service :lol:
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Sat Dec 17, 2022 3:43 pm

zkojq wrote:
Anyone else noticed algorithm changes recently? I've never been especially politically active on twitter (especially in the US sphere) but a day or two ago my recommendation were entirely from the hard right; Tomi Lahren, one of Trump's ex press secretaries, Matt Gaetz, Tucker Carlson and a few others whose twitter bios made it clear they were culture warriors from the far right of the politicalspectrum.

Most of the people I follow on Twitter are from the aviation, geopolitics, investigative journalism, foreign policy, business and F1 spheres, so the recommendation algorithm is clearly disconnected from the people that I actually follow.

Maybe because of my language anf country setting and type of content involved, my recommendation have 0% politicians now regardless of country, instead they are now full of illustrators, transit related accounts, historians, diplomacy and defense professors, and so on.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Sat Dec 17, 2022 4:59 pm

Musk has now proposed allowing down-voting and de-ranking of comments on Twitter, with only the paying checkmark users having that capability.

The messaging of that is again off-key, but perhaps representative of his worldview.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Sun Dec 18, 2022 12:47 pm

“Elon Musk claims he was doxxed. But what exactly is that?”

https://apnews.com/article/elon-musk-te ... 44c72da944

Decent article for those interested in learning. One of the journalist that had an exchange with Musk (mentioned in the article) certainly appears to cross the line, but perhaps Twitter needs to better define how doxxing will be enforced.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:04 pm

PPVRA wrote:
“Elon Musk claims he was doxxed. But what exactly is that?”

https://apnews.com/article/elon-musk-te ... 44c72da944

Decent article for those interested in learning. One of the journalist that had an exchange with Musk (mentioned in the article) certainly appears to cross the line, but perhaps Twitter needs to better define how doxxing will be enforced.


Well considering Linette Lopez who did not doxx but rather listed a few of the times Elon himself participated in doxxing critics is still suspended we can put the free speech absolutist discussion to rest. Free speech ends when his feelings are hurt.

I mean, it's his 44b toy after all but let's call a spade a spade.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/elon-musk ... ed-him-off
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:51 pm

JJJ wrote:
PPVRA wrote:
“Elon Musk claims he was doxxed. But what exactly is that?”

https://apnews.com/article/elon-musk-te ... 44c72da944

Decent article for those interested in learning. One of the journalist that had an exchange with Musk (mentioned in the article) certainly appears to cross the line, but perhaps Twitter needs to better define how doxxing will be enforced.


Well considering Linette Lopez who did not doxx but rather listed a few of the times Elon himself participated in doxxing critics is still suspended we can put the free speech absolutist discussion to rest. Free speech ends when his feelings are hurt.

I mean, it's his 44b toy after all but let's call a spade a spade.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/elon-musk ... ed-him-off


Free speech absolutist might be his personal view, but he was more than clear he would run Twitter with content moderation.

We shall see what becomes of the case of Linette Lopez given it remains unexplained and looks suspicious. Musk needs to explain this.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:59 pm

PPVRA wrote:
JJJ wrote:
PPVRA wrote:
“Elon Musk claims he was doxxed. But what exactly is that?”

https://apnews.com/article/elon-musk-te ... 44c72da944

Decent article for those interested in learning. One of the journalist that had an exchange with Musk (mentioned in the article) certainly appears to cross the line, but perhaps Twitter needs to better define how doxxing will be enforced.


Well considering Linette Lopez who did not doxx but rather listed a few of the times Elon himself participated in doxxing critics is still suspended we can put the free speech absolutist discussion to rest. Free speech ends when his feelings are hurt.

I mean, it's his 44b toy after all but let's call a spade a spade.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/elon-musk ... ed-him-off


Free speech absolutist might be his personal view, but he was more than clear he would run Twitter with content moderation.

We shall see what becomes of the case of Linette Lopez given it remains unexplained and looks suspicious. Musk needs to explain this.


If it just were Lopez....

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tech-jou ... d9ed9e?x7t

Here's a longer list, none of them did anything other than reporting on the story.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:33 pm

Twitter as a service needs to be paid for. Twitter as a source suffers from 'information wants to be free'. Advertising was the old model (newspapers and magazines), Radio and TV muddled things up, but for a while had a great balance between being a source of information, and a service for those eyes and ears. The internet has really destroyed all of those old models. Most cities*, towns, and even isolated rural areas had their dailies, weeklies, radio station. Few exist today.

With something in the very low $billions Musk could have had a creative impact on twitter becoming better, and self supporting. I use Wikipedia heavily and cautiously, also make a largish contribution every year. Musk's idea of charging for the service is really not a bad idea. But who wants to merely support a twitter made in his image? Not I.

*Seattle had hundreds of reporters in the old day who worked for 'just' neighborhood publications, not for any of the several all city newspapers.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Sun Dec 18, 2022 7:46 pm

Musk has also suspended WaPo journalist Taylor Lorenz, for asking him via Tweet for feedback on her story. He then claimed she had earlier doxxed him, but gave no evidence.

Pretty clear he is just suspending people reactively. The irony is he doing the things he claims Twitter did before, but actually didn't.

https://www.mediaite.com/tech/elon-musk ... r-a-story/
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Sun Dec 18, 2022 8:28 pm

Twitter also now blocks links to other social media or rather accounts created for the purpose of linking to other platforms.

https://twitter.com/FredericLambert/sta ... O20CQ&s=19

And very specifically mastodon which was basically an experiment not that long ago.

It seems to be an illegal thing to do under EU law apparently.

https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/16 ... dcVVA&s=19
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:41 am

Musk on his own account is apparently polling whether he should step down
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:44 am

c933103 wrote:
Musk on his own account is apparently polling whether he should step down


Don't ask the question if you don't want to know the answer, Elon
 
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Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:09 am

Avatar2go wrote:
Pretty clear he is just suspending people reactively. The irony is he doing the things he claims Twitter did before, but actually didn't.


Really? Come on. The info that Taibbi released is pretty clear.

Newark727 wrote:
c933103 wrote:
Musk on his own account is apparently polling whether he should step down


Don't ask the question if you don't want to know the answer, Elon


What is great is he won't abide by the poll. More heads exploding.
 
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Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:33 am

NIKV69 wrote:
Avatar2go wrote:
Pretty clear he is just suspending people reactively. The irony is he doing the things he claims Twitter did before, but actually didn't.


Really? Come on. The info that Taibbi released is pretty clear.

Newark727 wrote:
c933103 wrote:
Musk on his own account is apparently polling whether he should step down


Don't ask the question if you don't want to know the answer, Elon


What is great is he won't abide by the poll. More heads exploding.


Just watch, this is a planned event. You think meeting Kushner and the Saudis in Doha was really about watching soccer? :lol:
 
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Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:46 am

NIKV69 wrote:
What is great is he won't abide by the poll. More heads exploding.


Pfft. That implies some sort of surprise. Elon is entirely predictable at this point.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Mon Dec 19, 2022 2:44 am

NIKV69 wrote:
Avatar2go wrote:
Pretty clear he is just suspending people reactively. The irony is he doing the things he claims Twitter did before, but actually didn't.


Really? Come on. The info that Taibbi released is pretty clear.


You are correct, it was pretty clear that Taibbi's release meant nothing.

Twitter had a policy which they upheld, and expanded after much company-wide debate, including the CEO and outside advice through the Truth & Safety Council. That resulted in Trump & others being banned, which was the consensus and the will of the majority.

Compare that to the last few weeks. Elon knee-jerk reactions that he subsequently had to reverse. He is doing what he alone pleases. He suspends accounts and then develops reasons afterward. And those accounts just happen be people he disagrees with.

If that was a better method, advertisers wouldn't be fleeing, his revenue would not have dropped by half, he wouldn't need to sell his Tesla stake, he wouldn't be trying sell Twitter shares privately, he wouldn't have to lay off half the Twitter staff, and he wouldn't be looking at government sanctions.

He thinks it's better, only because he gets to impose his will over others. As well as his followers who want that too, and admire him for it. But the user base, wherein the true value of Twitter lies, doesn't agree.

Elon thinks he brings value to Twitter, but he's learning that his billions don't compare to the contributions of others that provide the content. It's a hard lesson that, smart as he is, he may not be able to understand. And he will pay the price for it.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Mon Dec 19, 2022 4:56 am

Elon is losing his Twitter poll over whether to step down as CEO of Twitter, by 16 points.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/elon-mus ... 143048c4e8
 
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Mon Dec 19, 2022 5:44 am

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Twitter also now blocks links to other social media or rather accounts created for the purpose of linking to other platforms.

https://twitter.com/FredericLambert/sta ... O20CQ&s=19

And very specifically mastodon which was basically an experiment not that long ago.

It seems to be an illegal thing to do under EU law apparently.

https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/16 ... dcVVA&s=19


Nevermind. Policy gone and banned people reinstated.

https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/16 ... wrQug&s=19

Hard to keep up.
 
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Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:37 am

Avatar2go wrote:
Elon is losing his Twitter poll over whether to step down as CEO of Twitter, by 16 points.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/elon-mus ... 143048c4e8


it seems that he decided to host this poll just after the WC final in Qatar, where, coincidently, reportedly Twitter's second largest investor (Saudi prince Alwaleed bin Talal Al Saud) and the Qatari Investment Fund were also present. Makes you think they may have talked to Musk during the match and are not pleased with what goes on at Twitter.....

Aaron747 wrote:
Just watch, this is a planned event. You think meeting Kushner and the Saudis in Doha was really about watching soccer? :lol:


You forget the Qatari Investment Authority which is into Twitter for approx. USD375mln.

BTW didn't know that Musk was was soccer fan.
 
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Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:47 pm

LJ wrote:
Avatar2go wrote:
BTW didn't know that Musk was was soccer fan.


I very much doubt he is. However, he is seriously into self-promotion.
 
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Mon Dec 19, 2022 3:04 pm

LJ wrote:
Avatar2go wrote:
Elon is losing his Twitter poll over whether to step down as CEO of Twitter, by 16 points.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/elon-mus ... 143048c4e8


it seems that he decided to host this poll just after the WC final in Qatar, where, coincidently, reportedly Twitter's second largest investor (Saudi prince Alwaleed bin Talal Al Saud) and the Qatari Investment Fund were also present. Makes you think they may have talked to Musk during the match and are not pleased with what goes on at Twitter.....

Aaron747 wrote:
Just watch, this is a planned event. You think meeting Kushner and the Saudis in Doha was really about watching soccer?


You forget the Qatari Investment Authority which is into Twitter for approx. USD375mln.

BTW didn't know that Musk was was soccer fan.
I do wonder if this poll is the easy way out for him.
Sort of blame the poll for quitting as CEO (like you say, perhaps the Saudis and Qataris aren't happy with the way the company is being run and see their investments evaporating).
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Mon Dec 19, 2022 3:08 pm

When’s he suppose to announce his Twitter retirement? I thought It was going to be today, or maybe the poll is still running… :whistleblower:
 
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Mon Dec 19, 2022 3:33 pm

hh65man wrote:
When’s he suppose to announce his Twitter retirement? I thought It was going to be today, or maybe the poll is still running… :whistleblower:


The poll will run until he gets his money back :)

https://www.theverge.com/2022/12/16/235 ... ery-minute

Anyway, according to Semafor, Musk is trying to get more investors for Twitter at the original $54.20 per share price he bought the company at before he frightened away advertisers and banned a bunch of journalists.
 
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Mon Dec 19, 2022 4:28 pm

ReverseFlow wrote:
Sort of blame the poll for quitting as CEO (like you say, perhaps the Saudis and Qataris aren't happy with the way the company is being run and see their investments evaporating).


They are happy so long as it continues to be a useful tool for controlling their populations. $300m is chump change to Gulf royalty.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Mon Dec 19, 2022 4:34 pm

Avatar2go wrote:
Elon is losing his Twitter poll over whether to step down as CEO of Twitter, by 16 points.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/elon-mus ... 143048c4e8


Hopefully the new CEO will ban him.

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