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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Mon Dec 19, 2022 4:36 pm

NIKV69 wrote:
Avatar2go wrote:
Pretty clear he is just suspending people reactively. The irony is he doing the things he claims Twitter did before, but actually didn't.


Really? Come on. The info that Taibbi released is pretty clear.


You really are a conspiracy theorist, aren't you?

Everything you've posted has been picked apart in laborious detail, most of it is entirely divorced from reality and picked from the real opinion-esque sides of the Fox News digital channel, which looks and sounds like OANN. Yet, you continue with the conspiracies, with the "Twitter Files" etc., when even the dubious Bari Weiss has said she's pretty much out of there and it's a waste of her time.

I agree with previous posts here. You really need to develop some critical thinking and look at your sources.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Mon Dec 19, 2022 4:45 pm

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I agree with previous posts here. You really need to develop some group think and look at your sources.


Changed it for you. Sorry I will pass.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Mon Dec 19, 2022 5:28 pm

NIKV69 wrote:
bluecrew wrote:
I agree with previous posts here. You really need to develop some group think and look at your sources.


Changed it for you. Sorry I will pass.

Sure, following numerous independent journalists on the topic, a number of different outlets like NYT and Vox, all covering this story is much more groupthink than finding some Fox News opinion article purporting to have the smoking gun on Twitter.

You've got to be kidding.

Genuinely, I think if you found some better sources, some that aren't in it to manipulate you, you'd find yourself being much less angry and scared at things going on around you. The anger and fear are the point.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Mon Dec 19, 2022 6:13 pm

bluecrew wrote:

Genuinely, I think if you found some better sources, some that aren't in it to manipulate you, you'd find yourself being much less angry and scared at things going on around you. The anger and fear are the point.


You have never met me and know zero about me, how do you know I am angry? See that is group think and Identity politics. The point is Matt Taibbi has produced proof of actions of the Biden team wanting certain content suppressed. You can spin it any way you want. You can attack Taibbi as much as you want. I mean I remember when he was a hero to the left. When he routinely attacked Rush Limbaugh. Now all of a sudden he is Public enemy #1. Sad thing is he is one of the only of his peers to be bipartisan. Funny isn't it?

Again the sooner we don't have group think and identity politics the better off we will be.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Mon Dec 19, 2022 8:05 pm

NIKV69 wrote:

The point is Matt Taibbi has produced proof of actions of the Biden team wanting certain content suppressed. You can spin it any way you want.

Again the sooner we don't have group think and identity politics the better off we will be.


Just to clarify, the Biden team (or the millions that agreed with them) did not object to "content". The objection was to lies & disinformation.

The heart of the conservative argument has been to equivocate these two, that disinformation is in fact legitimate content. But that assertion is false, just like the disinformation. It's just one lie told in defense of another. We are all taught in school that lies necessarily compound, you can't tell just one. This argument is a classic example.

Blaming the need to defend the disinformation, on the "group think" of the opposition, is just ludicrous. You wouldn't have to defend the lies, if they weren't lies. That is the simple truth.

Elon has bought into the disinformation, probably for the same reason as other conservatives. He dislikes what the liberals are doing, but cannot win the argument with rational debate alone. So he latches onto the disinformation as a means to argue more effectively. The obvious problem being, that his "facts" are not accepted by the opposition, because they aren't true.

The corollary behavior is that he cannot accept the true facts, as they would invalidate his arguments. Which we see consistently in his behavior, when he lashes out at others as pedophiles, etc. That shows the propensity to seize on disinformation, in hopes of gaining a better position in the dispute. But it just doesn't work in the long run, which he is now finding out.

There's a lesson in this for you as well, if you are willing to accept it.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:34 pm

Musk is in the worst of feedback loops right now

People want him gone.
His outside link ban was yanked as it was a gross impediment on free speech.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/19/tech/twi ... index.html
Please let me know how much the GOP really loves Free Speech?
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:54 pm

casinterest wrote:
Musk is in the worst of feedback loops right now

People want him gone.
His outside link ban was yanked as it was a gross impediment on free speech.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/19/tech/twi ... index.html
Please let me know how much the GOP really loves Free Speech?

He’s just throwing everything up against the wall and seeing what sticks and gets him and Twitter another headline.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Tue Dec 20, 2022 1:50 am

NIKV69 wrote:
bluecrew wrote:

Genuinely, I think if you found some better sources, some that aren't in it to manipulate you, you'd find yourself being much less angry and scared at things going on around you. The anger and fear are the point.


You have never met me and know zero about me, how do you know I am angry? See that is group think and Identity politics. The point is Matt Taibbi has produced proof of actions of the Biden team wanting certain content suppressed. You can spin it any way you want. You can attack Taibbi as much as you want. I mean I remember when he was a hero to the left. When he routinely attacked Rush Limbaugh. Now all of a sudden he is Public enemy #1. Sad thing is he is one of the only of his peers to be bipartisan. Funny isn't it?

Again the sooner we don't have group think and identity politics the better off we will be.


Actually Taibbi’s article said both Dems and GOP worked hard to suppress content they didn’t want. My problem with this kind of knee-jerk reaction is a free market one: don’t business owners have a right to take a side? Your position implies business owners *don’t have a right* to agree with the government, if they so choose.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:28 am

Oh Jeez,
It's time to move those goalposts again. From now on, only blue tick( property owners) can vote on major policy changes at Twitter .

https://www.business-standard.com/artic ... 096_1.html
Twitter Inc. will restrict voting on major policy decisions to paying Twitter Blue subscribers, company owner Elon Musk said in one of his first tweets following a poll calling for him to step down.


Musk is really trying to reinvent the wheel here, and he spent 44 billion to do it.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Tue Dec 20, 2022 3:48 am

casinterest wrote:
Oh Jeez,
It's time to move those goalposts again. From now on, only blue tick( property owners) can vote on major policy changes at Twitter .

https://www.business-standard.com/artic ... 096_1.html
Twitter Inc. will restrict voting on major policy decisions to paying Twitter Blue subscribers, company owner Elon Musk said in one of his first tweets following a poll calling for him to step down.


Musk is really trying to reinvent the wheel here, and he spent 44 billion to do it.

He’s doing a fantastic job of demonstrating how the first amendment doesn’t apply to private business. :p
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Tue Dec 20, 2022 4:00 am

luckyone wrote:
casinterest wrote:
Oh Jeez,
It's time to move those goalposts again. From now on, only blue tick( property owners) can vote on major policy changes at Twitter .

https://www.business-standard.com/artic ... 096_1.html
Twitter Inc. will restrict voting on major policy decisions to paying Twitter Blue subscribers, company owner Elon Musk said in one of his first tweets following a poll calling for him to step down.


Musk is really trying to reinvent the wheel here, and he spent 44 billion to do it.

He’s doing a fantastic job of demonstrating how the first amendment doesn’t apply to private business. :p


It will still be lost on a large portion of the GOP.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Tue Dec 20, 2022 6:54 am

casinterest wrote:
Oh Jeez,
It's time to move those goalposts again. From now on, only blue tick( property owners) can vote on major policy changes at Twitter .

https://www.business-standard.com/artic ... 096_1.html
Twitter Inc. will restrict voting on major policy decisions to paying Twitter Blue subscribers, company owner Elon Musk said in one of his first tweets following a poll calling for him to step down.


Musk is really trying to reinvent the wheel here, and he spent 44 billion to do it.


This is a workaround for his poll loss. It's clear that the people who are willing & agree to pay him $8 per month, are going to support him more than the majority would.

However I agree with others above that businesses do this all the time. There are many online forums where the rules are different for paid subscribers.

The thing to note about that, though, is that those sites are not considered "free speech", as they take editorial positions and have have user bases that do the same. So that effectively ends the "public square" claim, it's effectively a "private square".

The only people there with a right to vote, must pay to be there. A large majority will opt out of that requirement. It's like the days of the landowners voting, but not commoners.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:10 am

It's the poll tax all over again.. :o
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:28 pm

Avatar2go wrote:
casinterest wrote:
Oh Jeez,
It's time to move those goalposts again. From now on, only blue tick( property owners) can vote on major policy changes at Twitter .

https://www.business-standard.com/artic ... 096_1.html
Twitter Inc. will restrict voting on major policy decisions to paying Twitter Blue subscribers, company owner Elon Musk said in one of his first tweets following a poll calling for him to step down.


Musk is really trying to reinvent the wheel here, and he spent 44 billion to do it.


This is a workaround for his poll loss. It's clear that the people who are willing & agree to pay him $8 per month, are going to support him more than the majority would.

However I agree with others above that businesses do this all the time. There are many online forums where the rules are different for paid subscribers.

The thing to note about that, though, is that those sites are not considered "free speech", as they take editorial positions and have have user bases that do the same. So that effectively ends the "public square" claim, it's effectively a "private square".

The only people there with a right to vote, must pay to be there. A large majority will opt out of that requirement. It's like the days of the landowners voting, but not commoners.


Elon Musk is pretty much setting an example to all of what Free Speech really means in a private company. I think the reality is that he never understood it, and he still doesn't have a clue how to monetize it. Especially as it really will take some vain people to fork over about 100 a year to verify their identity. A license is about 5.50 a year in NC.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Tue Dec 20, 2022 4:16 pm

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They are happy so long as it continues to be a useful tool for controlling their populations. $300m is chump change to Gulf royalty.


:checkmark: I think this angle has never really gotten the attention it deserved on this thread. If I was an anonymous Saudi whistleblower reporting on the various human rights abuses that the Saudi Government undertakes on a regular basis, I would be very worried about the Twitter app knowing my location (and the website likely having a fairly extensive location history). I'd be similarly worried for the safety of anyone who had been communicating with me through Twitter DMs, especially if they'd been sending me photos, videos etc that might be damaging to the Saudi Arabian government.

For years, Saudi Arabia has been doing their best to oppress the Shia minority which is mainly located in the Eastern part of the country. There have been various uprisings over the years, though the government has generally been successful in crushing them. Same deal in Bahrain, though I believe the Shia are the majority there (but still oppressed by the Sunni Royal Family/Government). I'm sure they'll feel that their investment in Twitter is more than worth it if it can allow them to rat out a few government critics and potential trouble makers.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017%E2 ... tif_unrest

It's worth mentioning also that during the Arab Spring Twitter was quite important to the spread of information about protests/demonstrations and their coordination. I'm sure that the Saudi Government would love to have some control over this, even if that control isn't exercised often.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:14 pm

casinterest wrote:
Avatar2go wrote:
casinterest wrote:
Oh Jeez,
It's time to move those goalposts again. From now on, only blue tick( property owners) can vote on major policy changes at Twitter .

https://www.business-standard.com/artic ... 096_1.html


Musk is really trying to reinvent the wheel here, and he spent 44 billion to do it.


This is a workaround for his poll loss. It's clear that the people who are willing & agree to pay him $8 per month, are going to support him more than the majority would.

However I agree with others above that businesses do this all the time. There are many online forums where the rules are different for paid subscribers.

The thing to note about that, though, is that those sites are not considered "free speech", as they take editorial positions and have have user bases that do the same. So that effectively ends the "public square" claim, it's effectively a "private square".

The only people there with a right to vote, must pay to be there. A large majority will opt out of that requirement. It's like the days of the landowners voting, but not commoners.


Elon Musk is pretty much setting an example to all of what Free Speech really means in a private company. I think the reality is that he never understood it, and he still doesn't have a clue how to monetize it. Especially as it really will take some vain people to fork over about 100 a year to verify their identity. A license is about 5.50 a year in NC.



Free speech is fine, so long as it favours Musk.

I didn’t vote him out - I’m not even a user.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:40 am

Apparently Mr Musk wants to resign from Twitter:

https://www.news.com.au/technology/onli ... c64f18d146

Qualification: Once a replacement is found... That's a circus. :banghead:
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Wed Dec 21, 2022 3:28 am

cpd wrote:
Apparently Mr Musk wants to resign from Twitter:

https://www.news.com.au/technology/onli ... c64f18d146

Qualification: Once a replacement is found... That's a circus. :banghead:

Did he just do one line too many of cocaine at a party that weekend???
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:09 am

cpd wrote:
Apparently Mr Musk wants to resign from Twitter:

https://www.news.com.au/technology/onli ... c64f18d146

Qualification: Once a replacement is found... That's a circus. :banghead:

So I guess he just wanted to feel like Mark Zuckerberg for awhile and now he has enough.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:34 am

dampfnudel wrote:
cpd wrote:
Apparently Mr Musk wants to resign from Twitter:

https://www.news.com.au/technology/onli ... c64f18d146

Qualification: Once a replacement is found... That's a circus. :banghead:

So I guess he just wanted to feel like Mark Zuckerberg for awhile and now he has enough.


It's somewhat of an illusion. No one who knows Musk, believes that he won't interfere or set Twitter policy, even with a new CEO. It just sets up a fall guy to take the heat for him.

Again following the Trump playbook, always have an expendable human shield to do the dirtywork.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Wed Dec 21, 2022 11:08 am

About Twitter polls, or any similar online polls on websites, they're totally meaningless. On Twitter it's worse since it's an app used all over the world, but of course Musk is first and foremost followed by US users. And on Twitter and facebook, you can have a few people that call on their communities to vote one way and swing a vote, or users spending some money to have thousands of bots voting... There are ways to conduct reliable polls, even using online tools, and if I owned a bit of Twitter I would hope it is conducting some of these in the background to get useful feedback...
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:04 pm

Aesma wrote:
About Twitter polls, or any similar online polls on websites, they're totally meaningless. On Twitter it's worse since it's an app used all over the world, but of course Musk is first and foremost followed by US users. And on Twitter and facebook, you can have a few people that call on their communities to vote one way and swing a vote, or users spending some money to have thousands of bots voting... There are ways to conduct reliable polls, even using online tools, and if I owned a bit of Twitter I would hope it is conducting some of these in the background to get useful feedback...

Polls are meaningful if effectively done and tracked. However Elon doesn't care about effective or well done. He sacked most of the staff prior to understanding what Free Speech even meant.

He is now just a circus show at twitter, which might still bring in revenue if he effectively harnesses it.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:57 pm

cpd wrote:
Apparently Mr Musk wants to resign from Twitter:

https://www.news.com.au/technology/onli ... c64f18d146

Qualification: Once a replacement is found... That's a circus. :banghead:


This just in, there is no qualified replacement. Elon to remain as CEO.

Signed,

Most people.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Wed Dec 21, 2022 3:04 pm

StarAC17 wrote:
cpd wrote:
Apparently Mr Musk wants to resign from Twitter:

https://www.news.com.au/technology/onli ... c64f18d146

Qualification: Once a replacement is found... That's a circus. :banghead:


This just in, there is no qualified replacement. Elon to remain as CEO.

Signed,

Most people.



I think Musk is generally seeing the corresponding damage to Tesla and Spacex. You can't tell me that his employees at those companies have not been abhored by his behavior at Twitter. I would expect the competition will be picking up a lot of talent soon.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Wed Dec 21, 2022 4:58 pm

This sudden 'poll' was clearly not his idea, his ego would not initiate such a thought...but 'money' or the loss of it..got his attention and someone less unbalanced came up with this exit strategy for him, it's merely a cover for him admitting he dove into something that sounded awesome until the practical machinations proved their vitality in running Twitter...and his clownish toying around wooing Rightwing extremists and Ye-Dumbass is a money losing venture.

He may seem nuts, but he's still cognizant of rising and falling of ledger entries and stock value ..but mostly the damning image taking shape of who he is. Took much of his psyche is being showcased more than he's willing to share - and it was his ego that landed him there. Like Trump, the desire 'to be liked' is far more preferable than being portrayed as his true self has revealed (thanks ego). And he's in full damage control of his perception from the public. Question is - how far will he go now to retool that image...

BN747
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:53 pm

Musk has now said that Twitter will be cash flow positive next year. It's interesting that he claims it was headed for a $3B loss, had he not acted, but about a third is debt he created, and another third is loss of advertising revenue. Which he hopes to make up with subscription services.

Truth is that Twitter was stable and closing the revenue gap, when he took over. But I doubt his ego would permit him to admit that.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Wed Dec 21, 2022 11:08 pm

Aesma wrote:
About Twitter polls, or any similar online polls on websites, they're totally meaningless. On Twitter it's worse since it's an app used all over the world, but of course Musk is first and foremost followed by US users. And on Twitter and facebook, you can have a few people that call on their communities to vote one way and swing a vote, or users spending some money to have thousands of bots voting... There are ways to conduct reliable polls, even using online tools, and if I owned a bit of Twitter I would hope it is conducting some of these in the background to get useful feedback...


Good friend of mine has a great saying. If we took a poll in the beginning of WW2 the US would be speaking Japanese or German. I am not sure what Musk was going after but he got it.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:11 am

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This sudden 'poll' was clearly not his idea, his ego would not initiate such a thought...but 'money' or the loss of it..got his attention and someone less unbalanced came up with this exit strategy for him, it's merely a cover for him admitting he dove into something that sounded awesome until the practical machinations proved their vitality in running Twitter...and his clownish toying around wooing Rightwing extremists and Ye-Dumbass is a money losing venture.

He may seem nuts, but he's still cognizant of rising and falling of ledger entries and stock value ..but mostly the damning image taking shape of who he is. Took much of his psyche is being showcased more than he's willing to share - and it was his ego that landed him there. Like Trump, the desire 'to be liked' is far more preferable than being portrayed as his true self has revealed (thanks ego). And he's in full damage control of his perception from the public. Question is - how far will he go now to retool that image...

BN747


The dopamine rush of spending $44B USD, firing employees and blocking users on Twitter is wearing off.

I didn't give much thought to Musk's practices prior to buying Twitter even though we all knew he demanded a lot from Tesla and SpaceX workers. Everything about Musk came to light only after purchasing Twitter.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Thu Dec 22, 2022 3:04 pm

NIKV69 wrote:
Aesma wrote:
About Twitter polls, or any similar online polls on websites, they're totally meaningless. On Twitter it's worse since it's an app used all over the world, but of course Musk is first and foremost followed by US users. And on Twitter and facebook, you can have a few people that call on their communities to vote one way and swing a vote, or users spending some money to have thousands of bots voting... There are ways to conduct reliable polls, even using online tools, and if I owned a bit of Twitter I would hope it is conducting some of these in the background to get useful feedback...


Good friend of mine has a great saying. If we took a poll in the beginning of WW2 the US would be speaking Japanese or German. I am not sure what Musk was going after but he got it.


True point on some factors. The US had no interest in getting involved in WW2 until Pearl Harbor. IRC FDR wanted to joint but until the Pearl Harbour attack congress and the American people and congress did not want to get involved.

https://www.historycrunch.com/why-didnt ... 939.html#/

https://www.historyextra.com/period/sec ... roosevelt/

While history has shown that the minority of often right and opinions change over time. Lets not conflate the actions of a nation entering the most prominent human conflict in modern history (if not ever). To one guys view of a website that we would probably be collectively better off without.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Thu Dec 22, 2022 6:15 pm

The world's richest man has exposed a great weakness (with his Twitter Fubar)..every criminal psych ops wizard sees how easily influenced and vulnerability regarding 'his feelings'.

In their world..it's game on!

BN747
 
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Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:42 pm

BN747 wrote:
The world's richest man has exposed a great weakness (with his Twitter Fubar)..every criminal psych ops wizard sees how easily influenced and vulnerability regarding 'his feelings'.

In their world..it's game on!

BN747


He's not the richest man in the world anymore...and that was when Tesla shares were around USD 150. Given the performance of his Tesla shares this week, he may end up out of the top 3 by the end of the year (though Bezos isn't doing well as well and thus a top 3 spot should be manageable for Musk).
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Fri Dec 23, 2022 8:41 am

Yeah now it's a French guy at the top ah ah, who isn't involved in tech (nor publicity stunts).
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Sun Jan 01, 2023 3:09 pm

No new news for better or worse?
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Sun Jan 01, 2023 4:46 pm

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No new news for better or worse?


There is ample news, but to be honest, do we really need to mention each news story about Musk's Twitter? Like some employees getting allegedly the message that they have to bring their own toilet paper because Twitters fired the jainitors at SF HQ? Personally I would say no, as it becomes more like schadenfreude, and feeding those Musk fanboys that the world is against, cannot do anything wrong, Musk. You know it's the lefties, elites, WEF, Soros and Bill Gates teaming up against Musk (sarcasm off).

https://www.indy100.com/viral/elon-musk-fired-twitter-janitors
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/elon-musk-twitter-janitors-cut-smelly-toilet-paperr_n_63afb374e4b0ae9de1b706b2
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Sun Jan 01, 2023 5:17 pm

LJ wrote:
c933103 wrote:
No new news for better or worse?


There is ample news, but to be honest, do we really need to mention each news story about Musk's Twitter? Like some employees getting allegedly the message that they have to bring their own toilet paper because Twitters fired the jainitors at SF HQ? Personally I would say no, as it becomes more like schadenfreude, and feeding those Musk fanboys that the world is against, cannot do anything wrong, Musk. You know it's the lefties, elites, WEF, Soros and Bill Gates teaming up against Musk (sarcasm off).

https://www.indy100.com/viral/elon-musk-fired-twitter-janitors
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/elon-musk-twitter-janitors-cut-smelly-toilet-paperr_n_63afb374e4b0ae9de1b706b2


Twitter seems to have been sued by their SF landlords over unpaid rent, too.

https://www.engadget.com/twitter-sued-f ... 30970.html
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:58 pm

Never believed I would read that Musk actually reqiuests its workers to work from home. He finally got the message that it's cheaper to have staff working from home than from an office.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/musk-shuts-two-three-twitter-042055070.html
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:08 pm

LJ wrote:
Never believed I would read that Musk actually reqiuests its workers to work from home. He finally got the message that it's cheaper to have staff working from home than from an office.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/musk-shuts-two-three-twitter-042055070.html

Even a broken clock is right twice a day...

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Fri Feb 17, 2023 11:26 pm

GDB wrote:


Elon reportedly was upset that he had 120M followers, but his account was only generating about 100K advertising impressions per day. The engineers told him his Twitter rating was accurate and consistently tracked his Google scores.

But he faulted the Twitter algorithm and ordered that his rating be artificially boosted within the algorithm. So they started out with a boost factor of around 1000. Not sure where it finally ended up, but his tweets are now plastered all over Twitter, which users immediately noticed and questioned.

The changes can also overcome a direct block of his account. Thus you can no longer fully block him, he will appear if you are following events or accounts that have him heavily weighted.
 
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Sat Feb 18, 2023 5:40 am

I live a perfectly happy, functional, and well-informed life without a Twitter (or Facebook or Instagram) account. It can be done.
 
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Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:21 am

QF7 wrote:
I live a perfectly happy, functional, and well-informed life without a Twitter (or Facebook or Instagram) account. It can be done.


I do as well, and even have Twitter embeds blocked in my browsers (due more to resource utilization and annoyance), but the reality is that Twitter has become a source of information, and is constantly cited by the news, if not in the news itself.

That isn't going away, and you can't pretend it doesn't exist, or is not an influence. I try to limit it to accounts that I know are trustworthy, and make it a rule to not read the replies, which is where all the craziness happens. If used in that way, it's a useful resource.
 
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Sat Feb 18, 2023 5:13 pm

Freedom of speech is not the same as forcing someone to listen … and it seems Musk (and others on the populist right for that matter) don’t seem to get the difference.
 
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Sun Feb 19, 2023 2:00 am

Avatar2go wrote:
I do as well, and even have Twitter embeds blocked in my browsers…

Holy guacamole! It never occurred to me you could do that. I’m going to have to learn how that’s done!
 
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Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:14 pm

Avatar2go wrote:
GDB wrote:


Elon reportedly was upset that he had 120M followers, but his account was only generating about 100K advertising impressions per day. The engineers told him his Twitter rating was accurate and consistently tracked his Google scores.

But he faulted the Twitter algorithm and ordered that his rating be artificially boosted within the algorithm. So they started out with a boost factor of around 1000. Not sure where it finally ended up, but his tweets are now plastered all over Twitter, which users immediately noticed and questioned.

The changes can also overcome a direct block of his account. Thus you can no longer fully block him, he will appear if you are following events or accounts that have him heavily weighted.


Not exactly new news but he fired an engineer over this. I actually find it very amusing (and a bit sad) that someone with so much money and power can be this petty and need such trivial validation.

https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/9/23593 ... c-concerns
 
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Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:41 am

Honest question, how many people around you in real life actually use twitter regularly? even before musk bought twitter? Mine was 2 out of 25 people.

Do people actually still uses twitter?
 
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Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:27 pm

ewt340 wrote:
Honest question, how many people around you in real life actually use twitter regularly? even before musk bought twitter? Mine was 2 out of 25 people.

Do people actually still uses twitter?


I know people who use it (myself included) when live events are on such as sports or a political debate. I seldom will tweet and maybe sometimes comment. That is how most people I know use it and the ones that are on it constantly are always not as happy as those who aren't

Its a cesspool in general.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:32 pm

Old dude here, I admit, but I have never gotten the value prop of Twitter. How does it really make one’s life better?

It has always seemed to me to be a tool for attention-seeking people and/or wanting to be perceived as cool people. Who are rarely deserving of attention nor cool. I have literally heard people beg for others to become followers. Which I feel is just sad.

One thing Twitter does seem to be good at is allowing jackasses to reveal themselves as such.
 
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Wed Mar 08, 2023 8:52 am

I use Twitter daily. It's a concise way to read updates from Govt. agencies that post there.
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Wed Mar 08, 2023 10:12 am

Anyone following the Halli new soap opera?

To make it short, an employee (well not just an employee, someone whose company had been acquired by twitter) asked directly at Elon whether he had been fired after losing access and after days being ghosted by HR and Elon himself by internal email.

Musk proceeded to berate the man publicly and more than hinting that his disability played a role in the firing.

And, just a few hours later (presumably after someone at legal got some overtime) he apologizes publicly and opens the door back.

https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1633261069534724096?t=o-72llUll3rmujXKHU2c4A&s=19

The man looks every day more like a cartoon villain that anything else
 
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Re: Musk, Twitter News and Discussion Thread

Wed Mar 08, 2023 11:16 am

QF7 wrote:
Old dude here, I admit, but I have never gotten the value prop of Twitter. How does it really make one’s life better?

It has always seemed to me to be a tool for attention-seeking people and/or wanting to be perceived as cool people. Who are rarely deserving of attention nor cool. I have literally heard people beg for others to become followers. Which I feel is just sad.

One thing Twitter does seem to be good at is allowing jackasses to reveal themselves as such.


As noted upthread, it's a great way to get news quickly.

One way to skip the jackassery you've described is to use the "Lists" function. It makes the UX 100x better, IMO.

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