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Re: Everything That George Santos Has Lied About (So Far)

Tue Jan 03, 2023 3:32 pm

George Santos is a pathalogical liar. Going to be fun for the commedians to pick on him and the leadership choices within the party for the next two years.

And now Brazil is reviviing a fraud case against him.

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Re: Everything That George Santos Has Lied About (So Far)
by ThePointblank » 03 Jan 2023 04:09

Should also be noted that Brazil and the US have an extradition treaty in place, and there's also a mutual legal assistance treaty in place as well.

If Brazil decides to formally charge Santos, and request the US extradite him to Brazilian custody, things are going to get really weird really quickly.

Another thought: did he disclose to US Immigration about the pending fraud charge in Brazil when he emigrated to the US? If not, he may have entered the US illegally, and thus legally, not an American citizen. He would therefore be ineligible for his Congress seat.


This is just a comedy of errors for the NY GOP party process.
 
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Tue Jan 03, 2023 5:26 pm

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George Santos is a pathalogical liar.


He's the 'I hate politics' icon personified for every uninformed voter ever uttering that phrase.

His end game probably was to end up as someone's Prison Bitch for quite some time.

Hopefully a nice cushy Brazilian cell would be ideal.


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Re: Everything That George Santos Has Lied About (So Far)

Tue Jan 03, 2023 6:08 pm

Sadly he will be sworn in as a member of the US House of Representatives today and Republicans in the House won't do anything to get him to leave. McCarthy needs his vote to become Speaker of the House, Santos is a Trump supporter from a 'blue' state he needs with the narrow margin of control of the House by the party. fl If this had been a Democrat, they likely such lies would have been outed during theit campaign and never take office or forced to resign.
 
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Re: Everything That George Santos Has Lied About (So Far)

Tue Jan 03, 2023 6:35 pm

ltbewr wrote:
Sadly he will be sworn in as a member of the US House of Representatives today and Republicans in the House won't do anything to get him to leave. McCarthy needs his vote to become Speaker of the House, Santos is a Trump supporter from a 'blue' state he needs with the narrow margin of control of the House by the party. fl If this had been a Democrat, they likely such lies would have been outed during theit campaign and never take office or forced to resign.


NY state is diverse. Long Island has gone Red and most of upstate is Red which is why Santos won. Would he have won if these lies came out earlier? I don't know, his opponent was pretty bad. Suozzi was a decent Rep and it's his choice to run for Governor and the fact the Dem party isn't popular in that part of the state is why Santos won. Many lose sight of this. If Santos survives two years it will be interesting to see what happens but the Dems policies will have a say in it. Not CNN.
 
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Tue Jan 03, 2023 6:47 pm

NIKV69 wrote:
ltbewr wrote:
Sadly he will be sworn in as a member of the US House of Representatives today and Republicans in the House won't do anything to get him to leave. McCarthy needs his vote to become Speaker of the House, Santos is a Trump supporter from a 'blue' state he needs with the narrow margin of control of the House by the party. fl If this had been a Democrat, they likely such lies would have been outed during theit campaign and never take office or forced to resign.


NY state is diverse. Long Island has gone Red and most of upstate is Red which is why Santos won. Would he have won if these lies came out earlier? I don't know, his opponent was pretty bad. Suozzi was a decent Rep and it's his choice to run for Governor and the fact the Dem party isn't popular in that part of the state is why Santos won. Many lose sight of this. If Santos survives two years it will be interesting to see what happens but the Dems policies will have a say in it. Not CNN.

If Long Island is red, I enjoy your version of the delusion cinematic universe, because you're going to get your clock cleaned in 2024 with the fallout from this sort of stunt in NY State.
It'll swing, but when you seat fraudster clowns like this, it's going to be nonstop press until election day, and the only Republican to hold their seat is going to be Elise Stefanik, and whatever psycho represents Staten Island now.
 
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Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:40 pm

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The most insulting thing about this forlorn physical-wreck of gay person of color is his audacity to flaunt it publicly with no concern of consequence....and he made it that far.

WTF does that say about the people who voted for him and the dimwitted Dems who watched this slow motion trainwreck run away with their seat?

As a gay man, he's an embarrassment to those who stand proud on that hard fought into global acceptance.
As a person of color, he wears the whitino flag wherever he can (whitino - Latinos who suppress their ethnicity & heritage in exchance for everything 'white' aka Clarence Thomas).
and a corpulent bold faced liar to boot.

..and yet some want more like him. The Anti-Democracy crowd he obviously.

BN747


How do we even know he's gay? He's demonstrated that he is willing to lie about anything and everything, why not lie about being gay? I wouldn't have the first clue about what elements of his life are genuinely true. Except the fact that he's pure and utter trash, making it no surprise that Republicans embrace him.
 
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Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:25 pm

NIKV69 wrote:
ltbewr wrote:
Sadly he will be sworn in as a member of the US House of Representatives today and Republicans in the House won't do anything to get him to leave. McCarthy needs his vote to become Speaker of the House, Santos is a Trump supporter from a 'blue' state he needs with the narrow margin of control of the House by the party. fl If this had been a Democrat, they likely such lies would have been outed during theit campaign and never take office or forced to resign.


NY state is diverse. Long Island has gone Red and most of upstate is Red which is why Santos won. Would he have won if these lies came out earlier? I don't know, his opponent was pretty bad. Suozzi was a decent Rep and it's his choice to run for Governor and the fact the Dem party isn't popular in that part of the state is why Santos won. Many lose sight of this. If Santos survives two years it will be interesting to see what happens but the Dems policies will have a say in it. Not CNN.


There are three distinct factions of the Republican party that I see:

MAGAs
Tea Partiers
Reagans

And they all better line up behind the MAGAs otherwise you are a liberal drag queen groomer. I suspect those on Long Island are Reagan Republicans who held their nose and voted for the candidate with the (R) behind his name but, had he been properly vetted by the NY Republican Party, they would have either voted for the Democrat or there would have been a legitimate Republican..
 
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Wed Jan 04, 2023 12:00 am

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seb146 wrote:
NIKV69 wrote:

"Whataboutism" and "taken out of context" is interesting. What would have been for both Warren and Santos is so say I screwed up and lied. It's ok he will be seated.


Again, and let's not stress this enough

https://www.vox.com/2018/10/16/17983250 ... indian-dna
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html
https://www.npr.org/2018/10/15/65746865 ... n-ancestry

AFTER (read that again and again and once more aloud) she passed the bar in Texas, she claimed Native ancestry. Not to get any points or ahead in any career or any money or win a race. Simply and only for statistical purposes. And she apologized. AND SHE APOLOGIZED!!! So, let's move on from "they are the same" because they clearly are not. "I apologize for identifying as Native when I am not" is not anywhere near the same as "You heard 'Jewish' but I really said 'Jew-ish'" and "but anyone can just magically have $11,000,000 appear in their bank accounts!" and "but I realized I was gay instead of wanting to end up a 60 year old trans woman".

SHE APOLOGIZED because she knew she done wrong!!! SHE APOLOGIZED!!! Get over it. They are not the same. They. Are. Not. The. Same.

NOT THE SAME!!


God man you really do put the blinders on when it comes to Democrats and their lies. I will admit this guy Santos takes it to a whole new level in his embellishment. Lets face it if lying was something that got you thrown out of politics we would have zero politicians. The laws and of course congress writes laws that suit them It will be near impossible to remove him at this point. So I am sure next election if the voters have a problem with his lies they will vote him out.


Nancy Pelosi lied, Warren didn't, she found a new information and directly provide those new findings to the public.
 
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Wed Jan 04, 2023 1:30 am

LittleFokker wrote:
BN747 wrote:

The most insulting thing about this forlorn physical-wreck of gay person of color is his audacity to flaunt it publicly with no concern of consequence....and he made it that far.

WTF does that say about the people who voted for him and the dimwitted Dems who watched this slow motion trainwreck run away with their seat?

As a gay man, he's an embarrassment to those who stand proud on that hard fought into global acceptance.
As a person of color, he wears the whitino flag wherever he can (whitino - Latinos who suppress their ethnicity & heritage in exchance for everything 'white' aka Clarence Thomas).
and a corpulent bold faced liar to boot.

..and yet some want more like him. The Anti-Democracy crowd he obviously.

BN747


How do we even know he's gay? He's demonstrated that he is willing to lie about anything and everything, why not lie about being gay? I wouldn't have the first clue about what elements of his life are genuinely true. Except the fact that he's pure and utter trash, making it no surprise that Republicans embrace him.


Have you read any blurbs of him describing himself?

His mannerisms don't seem to counter his claim and nor does his sexual interest matter (although the very thought of him sans clothes is scary af), but where or not he is..his claiming to be is just another piss poor icon for Westboro Baptist Church/Boobert crowd to get all riled up bring on hating the gays, immigrants, etc (when they turn on him that is..)

If it turns out he's not gay....then he will be when the US or Brazilian law finishes with him.


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Re: Everything That George Santos Has Lied About (So Far)

Wed Jan 04, 2023 3:16 am

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Your “move on” shows how rotten the US political system has become. Lying about everything and you can get away with it.


DC is a cesspool and Geroge Santos didn't create it. There isn't enough time in the day to document how many lies happen to get elected. If your candidate that ran against him was just the one bit competent this could have ended differently but Like I said, Long Island isn't NYC. The people are sick of Democrat policies. At the end of the day voters still vote on issues. Not cable news opinions. When the cost of living gets to the point it has, young families don't care Jake Tapper and Wolf Biitzer are telling you the GOP lied! Bad! They want a change.
 
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Wed Jan 04, 2023 3:23 am

NIKV69 wrote:
marcelh wrote:
Your “move on” shows how rotten the US political system has become. Lying about everything and you can get away with it.


DC is a cesspool and Geroge Santos didn't create it. There isn't enough time in the day to document how many lies happen to get elected. If your candidate that ran against him was just the one bit competent this could have ended differently but Like I said, Long Island isn't NYC. The people are sick of Democrat policies. At the end of the day voters still vote on issues. Not cable news opinions. When the cost of living gets to the point it has, young families don't care Jake Tapper and Wolf Biitzer are telling you the GOP lied! Bad! They want a change.


You want to blame DC for being a Cesspool but you want to give the voters that are creating it a pass? Donald Trump took away all excuses from the GOP when it comes to pathological liars. The base and prime voters don't care and don't want to care. The Rest of the US suffers for it.
Blame the cesspool on DC all you want, but you need to blame the voters that are pouring the mix.
 
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Wed Jan 04, 2023 3:39 am

This thread, ca. 2030:
DC is a cesspool and Sen. Faust (R-FL) didn't create it. There isn't enough time in the day to document how many crooked deals happen to get elected. If your candidate that ran against him had also made a blood pact pledging his very soul to the Prince of Darkness Lucifer this could have ended differently!
 
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Wed Jan 04, 2023 4:09 am

NIKV69 wrote:
marcelh wrote:
Your “move on” shows how rotten the US political system has become. Lying about everything and you can get away with it.


DC is a cesspool and Geroge Santos didn't create it.


And there's hidden Newt Gingrinch message, don't stop there...dig to the bottom deeper!
The greater the LIAR, the better...add more. Next...

It just doesn't end..because their is none with this mentality.

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Wed Jan 04, 2023 3:17 pm

NIKV69 wrote:
marcelh wrote:
Your “move on” shows how rotten the US political system has become. Lying about everything and you can get away with it.


DC is a cesspool and Geroge Santos didn't create it.


The fact that Republican elected officials and their voters are willing to give this (and other) con men in their party a pass speaks volumes.
 
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Thu Jan 05, 2023 11:19 pm

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As astounding as his lies are, they aren't what concerns me. Where did he get the money to loan his campaign $750,000? Somebody bought and paid for him and I want to know who it is. For a newcomer with no influence to get that amount of money is "curious"...


So if there’s a good explanation for the money, his lying doesn’t matter and he can do the job?
No, that's not what I said. Also, there isn't a good explanation for the money.
 
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Fri Jan 06, 2023 2:28 pm

johns624 wrote:
marcelh wrote:
johns624 wrote:
As astounding as his lies are, they aren't what concerns me. Where did he get the money to loan his campaign $750,000? Somebody bought and paid for him and I want to know who it is. For a newcomer with no influence to get that amount of money is "curious"...


So if there’s a good explanation for the money, his lying doesn’t matter and he can do the job?
No, that's not what I said. Also, there isn't a good explanation for the money.

At least it doesn’t show a lot of disagreement….
 
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Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:08 pm

He does not have an office or staff in his district

https://www.fox5ny.com/news/george-sant ... l-district
https://brooklyn.news12.com/residents-o ... tos-office

And he is not taking or returning calls. How is he supposed to effectively represent the people in his district if they can not get ahold of him? I have called my Representative and both Senators and have gotten someone live to take a message. If his voicemail is full and he has no staff to field calls from even his constituents, why is he even holding the seat?
 
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Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:21 pm

seb146 wrote:
He does not have an office or staff in his district

https://www.fox5ny.com/news/george-sant ... l-district
https://brooklyn.news12.com/residents-o ... tos-office

And he is not taking or returning calls. How is he supposed to effectively represent the people in his district if they can not get ahold of him? I have called my Representative and both Senators and have gotten someone live to take a message. If his voicemail is full and he has no staff to field calls from even his constituents, why is he even holding the seat?


I heard that the douglaston location might have some staff there now. I’m curious and actually live really close to there, so I’m planning to check it out myself.
 
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Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:06 pm

When casting his vote for McCarthy, Santos apparently made a White power gesture. His father is black. This guy is so sick.

https://twitter.com/highbrow_nobrow/sta ... nd28tl7oTg
 
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Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:23 pm

You couldn't make this stuff up.
 
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Sat Jan 07, 2023 12:26 am

seb146 wrote:
He does not have an office or staff in his district

https://www.fox5ny.com/news/george-sant ... l-district
https://brooklyn.news12.com/residents-o ... tos-office

And he is not taking or returning calls. How is he supposed to effectively represent the people in his district if they can not get ahold of him? I have called my Representative and both Senators and have gotten someone live to take a message. If his voicemail is full and he has no staff to field calls from even his constituents, why is he even holding the seat?


Screw 'em all. They voted for this shitbag.
 
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Sat Jan 07, 2023 1:32 am

SEAorPWM wrote:
seb146 wrote:
He does not have an office or staff in his district

https://www.fox5ny.com/news/george-sant ... l-district
https://brooklyn.news12.com/residents-o ... tos-office

And he is not taking or returning calls. How is he supposed to effectively represent the people in his district if they can not get ahold of him? I have called my Representative and both Senators and have gotten someone live to take a message. If his voicemail is full and he has no staff to field calls from even his constituents, why is he even holding the seat?


Screw 'em all. They voted for this shitbag.


They voted for a gay Jewish businessman who has a solid family background and college education. None of that is George Santos.
 
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Sat Jan 07, 2023 1:48 am

seb146 wrote:
He does not have an office or staff in his district

https://www.fox5ny.com/news/george-sant ... l-district
https://brooklyn.news12.com/residents-o ... tos-office

And he is not taking or returning calls. How is he supposed to effectively represent the people in his district if they can not get ahold of him? I have called my Representative and both Senators and have gotten someone live to take a message. If his voicemail is full and he has no staff to field calls from even his constituents, why is he even holding the seat?


Drove by and the signage is still Suozzi’s. I did see a paper sign taped on the door, but wasn’t able to see what it says. I might walk by this weekend to get a closer look.
 
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Sat Jan 07, 2023 2:24 am

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When casting his vote for McCarthy, Santos apparently made a White power gesture. His father is black. This guy is so sick.

https://twitter.com/highbrow_nobrow/sta ... nd28tl7oTg


This is a product of years of people like Tucker Carlson screaming about “white genocide” and “great replacement”. People like that have mainstreamed white supremacist neo nazi propaganda.

Also a product of a culture where online trolls and incels are making up the base of one side of politics.
 
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Sat Jan 07, 2023 2:46 am

I don’t want to post a link to it as it’s disgusting but Santos also posted a picture on his social media in 2014 whilst running for Congress depicting Barack and Michelle Obama as monkeys. If you want to see you can find it on Twitter. It’s hideously racist, and another example of how this “man” is a racist, neo nazi, whites supremacist fraud. And indicative of the 2023 GOP
 
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Sat Jan 07, 2023 2:57 am

sierrakilo44 wrote:
leader1 wrote:
When casting his vote for McCarthy, Santos apparently made a White power gesture. His father is black. This guy is so sick.

https://twitter.com/highbrow_nobrow/sta ... nd28tl7oTg


This is a product of years of people like Tucker Carlson screaming about “white genocide” and “great replacement”. People like that have mainstreamed white supremacist neo nazi propaganda.


I used to live in Brazil and know the culture pretty well. It is a pretty racist place. All this predates Tucker Carlson and is most likely what Santos, being Brazilian, grew up with in his household. Looking at his sister’s Facebook page, she says some pretty nasty things about Blacks. Definitely runs in the family.

And Santos’ dad is Black (Angolan descent) and having seen him in person, he definitely looks biracial. A lot of Brazilians with that background try hard to hide or deny it. For instance, my ex was Brazilian and her father had a Black grandmother and he went out of his way to deny he had any Black blood in him. I’ve met Brazilians who would be considered Black, but they insisted they were fully Caucasian. Santos is a product of that upbringing more than anything. Shocked he went as far as to signal White power. Truly a sick individual.
 
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Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:12 am

He is a Strong Independent Black Woman.
 
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Sun Jan 08, 2023 1:45 pm

leader1 wrote:
When casting his vote for McCarthy, Santos apparently made a White power gesture. His father is black. This guy is so sick.


Race is a touchy subject in the Hispanic community going on forever, only now getting into the forefront thanks to the "Afro-Latino/x" movement. It's likely a reason why some Hispanics are moving towards the GOP to stop the association.
 
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Tue Jan 10, 2023 12:39 am

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His Mom died in 9/11 … well, from a 9/11 related illness.. a few years later… in 2016


That's actually not terribly hard to believe....9/11-related illnesses have been killing people who were associated with the events ever since the attacks happened. Lots of bad stuff floating around after the towers fell.
 
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Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:36 pm

TriJets wrote:
skyservice_330 wrote:
His Mom died in 9/11 … well, from a 9/11 related illness.. a few years later… in 2016


That's actually not terribly hard to believe....9/11-related illnesses have been killing people who were associated with the events ever since the attacks happened. Lots of bad stuff floating around after the towers fell.


Right but where was she on 9/11? Lower Manhattan with all the First Responders or Brazil or Boston or where?
 
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Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:42 pm

I would hope Lee Zeldin listed his house in Shirley and is looking for one in Santos' district. It's a slam dunk.
 
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Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:03 pm

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I would hope Lee Zeldin listed his house in Shirley and is looking for one in Santos' district. It's a slam dunk.


Don't you think 'house seat' is somewhat lowly for Zeldin's political ambition and potential?
 
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Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:02 am

Aaron747 wrote:
NIKV69 wrote:
I would hope Lee Zeldin listed his house in Shirley and is looking for one in Santos' district. It's a slam dunk.


Don't you think 'house seat' is somewhat lowly for Zeldin's political ambition and potential?


He just was a Representative what are you talking about? He has no shot at Senate and rather than wait for another shot at Governor may as well do something he has a good chance at winning.
 
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Fri Jan 13, 2023 2:05 am

New York Republicans and Nassau County Republicans want Santos out

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/11/politics ... index.html
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congre ... -rcna65318
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3809 ... to-resign/

This would shrink an already slim majority of Republicans.
 
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Fri Jan 13, 2023 2:24 am

NYS has no recall laws, no?
So if he refuses to resign, and the house (probably) won't expel him (or even vote on the matter), then there's nothing that could be done? He just serves until Jan 2025 if he is shameless enough?
 
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Fri Jan 13, 2023 3:39 am

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NYS has no recall laws, no?
So if he refuses to resign, and the house (probably) won't expel him (or even vote on the matter), then there's nothing that could be done? He just serves until Jan 2025 if he is shameless enough?


No recalls in NYS, unfortunately. We’re stuck with him unless he’s expelled or he resigns.
 
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Fri Jan 13, 2023 1:19 pm

Even Matt Gaetz asked Santos about the money and got the runaround.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/george- ... 33062.html
 
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Fri Jan 13, 2023 7:51 pm

leader1 wrote:
alex0easy wrote:
NYS has no recall laws, no?
So if he refuses to resign, and the house (probably) won't expel him (or even vote on the matter), then there's nothing that could be done? He just serves until Jan 2025 if he is shameless enough?


No recalls in NYS, unfortunately. We’re stuck with him unless he’s expelled or he resigns.

Unprecedented in recent memory, so I looked up the requirements to expel a member, and it's a 2/3 majority, just like an executive branch impeachment.

I don't think, even with the NY GOP defections, that we're going to see 2/3 vote to unseat this creepy weirdo.

Newest bit of info here is that he was involved in a "classic Ponzi scheme."
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/13/politics ... index.html

Santos told The Daily Beast in 2022 that he was “as distraught and disturbed as everyone else” to learn of allegations against Harbor City. But in a since-removed tweet on his since-deleted personal Twitter account, a potential customer questioned claims the company had a 100% bank guarantee on their investment in the form of a stand by line of credit (SBLC).

“The market instability is leading to sever (sic) capital erosion. @HarborCityCap offers you a strategy that mitigates loss and risk while creating cash flow, meanwhile your principle is 100% secured by an SBLC held by various major institutions. #fixedincome #alternativeinvestment #win,” Santos tweeted in April 2020 under the name George Devolder, using his mother’s family name.

In June, a potential customer responded to that tweet from Santos saying he looked into a SBLC from Harbor City and found it to be fraudulent.
 
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Re: Everything That George Santos Has Lied About (So Far)

Sat Jan 14, 2023 12:33 am

bluecrew wrote:
leader1 wrote:
alex0easy wrote:
NYS has no recall laws, no?
So if he refuses to resign, and the house (probably) won't expel him (or even vote on the matter), then there's nothing that could be done? He just serves until Jan 2025 if he is shameless enough?


No recalls in NYS, unfortunately. We’re stuck with him unless he’s expelled or he resigns.

Unprecedented in recent memory, so I looked up the requirements to expel a member, and it's a 2/3 majority, just like an executive branch impeachment.

I don't think, even with the NY GOP defections, that we're going to see 2/3 vote to unseat this creepy weirdo.

Newest bit of info here is that he was involved in a "classic Ponzi scheme."
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/13/politics ... index.html

Santos told The Daily Beast in 2022 that he was “as distraught and disturbed as everyone else” to learn of allegations against Harbor City. But in a since-removed tweet on his since-deleted personal Twitter account, a potential customer questioned claims the company had a 100% bank guarantee on their investment in the form of a stand by line of credit (SBLC).

“The market instability is leading to sever (sic) capital erosion. @HarborCityCap offers you a strategy that mitigates loss and risk while creating cash flow, meanwhile your principle is 100% secured by an SBLC held by various major institutions. #fixedincome #alternativeinvestment #win,” Santos tweeted in April 2020 under the name George Devolder, using his mother’s family name.

In June, a potential customer responded to that tweet from Santos saying he looked into a SBLC from Harbor City and found it to be fraudulent.


That’s the US House that has to vote this. And there’s no way, with a slim GOP majority, that 2/3rds of the members would vote to kick Santos out. I bet there wouldn’t even be that many defections. Maybe some of the newer NY members, since they all had very narrow wins and he makes the state look bad, but doubtful from other states.

But unfortunately, there is no state mechanism to recall a politician. Really wish there was like in California.

And it does look like his office finally opened. Same location as Suozzi’s.

https://bronx.news12.com/local-official ... e-campaign

And it looks like Santos took money from a migrant smuggler.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/george-sa ... oppedisano

I’m willing to bet money that his parents came here illegally. Brazilians were the second largest group of illegals in the country for a long time. Not sure if that’s the case today, but it was for many years. Kind of ironic since he has harsh words towards illegals.
 
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Re: Everything That George Santos Has Lied About (So Far)

Sat Jan 14, 2023 12:41 am

The latest is that "George Santos" isn't his real name. It's actually Walter Mitty! :rotfl: :rotfl:
 
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Re: Everything That George Santos Has Lied About (So Far)

Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:28 am

A follow up article from the NYT regarding background checks on Santos.

Seems like the GOP did some due diligence on the guy and found some unflattering things, but basically looked the other way because they didn’t have another candidate to replace him.

The Dems didn’t due much opposition research at all. Zimmerman claimed they were cash strapped and needed the money to campaign. That’s bullshit since his campaign raised so much money and didn’t campaign at all.

And Santos’ team itself did a “vulnerability study” and picked up some pretty disturbing stuff. Most of them quit because of that and Santos fired the vendor who conducted the study. In the end, he got help from Elise Stefanik’s team for the campaign and they didn’t bother to do a background check.

Incompetence all around.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/13/nyre ... -lies.html
 
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Re: Everything That George Santos Has Lied About (So Far)

Sun Jan 15, 2023 4:12 pm

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Even Matt Gaetz asked Santos about the money and got the runaround.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/george- ... 33062.html

Likely the easiest and quickest way to get Santos to resign would be to get him on campaign finance violations. There are paper and digital records of money transfers with banks from people or some business entity in violation of law could be found as solid evidence. There are too many obvious questions as to sources of some of his campaign funding. I am quite sure he has other potential criminal and civil violations including as to his income taxes (Fed and NY State), acts of lying on official documents from his drivers license, papers filed to run for office, to those he had to file when took office as a member of the House. Any and all 'stones must be overturned' to get this guy out of office.
 
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Re: Everything That George Santos Has Lied About (So Far)

Sun Jan 15, 2023 4:25 pm

ltbewr wrote:
johns624 wrote:
Even Matt Gaetz asked Santos about the money and got the runaround.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/george- ... 33062.html

Likely the easiest and quickest way to get Santos to resign would be to get him on campaign finance violations. There are paper and digital records of money transfers with banks from people or some business entity in violation of law could be found as solid evidence. There are too many obvious questions as to sources of some of his campaign funding. I am quite sure he has other potential criminal and civil violations including as to his income taxes (Fed and NY State), acts of lying on official documents from his drivers license, papers filed to run for office, to those he had to file when took office as a member of the House. Any and all 'stones must be overturned' to get this guy out of office.
I agree. While his other lying is repulsive, it's always about the money. Who thinks a new congressman is worth $700K to buy this early.
 
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Re: Everything That George Santos Has Lied About (So Far)

Sun Jan 15, 2023 5:35 pm

IMO, campaign finance is the root cause of much that is wrong.

To get elected you must be wealthy or have wealthy backers.

Those backers didn't get wealthy without getting value for their money.
 
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Re: Everything That George Santos Has Lied About (So Far)

Wed Jan 18, 2023 6:58 pm

https://forward.com/news/532350/george- ... documents/

Another lie about George Santos's mother...she wasn't even in the United States on 9/11.
 
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Re: Everything That George Santos Has Lied About (So Far)

Wed Jan 18, 2023 7:27 pm

Well the people in NY that voted for this yahoo can expect an honorable time of service from him I expect. At least that is what I am sure I heaed him say. He wouldn't lie would he?
 
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Re: Everything That George Santos Has Lied About (So Far)

Wed Jan 18, 2023 7:31 pm

LittleFokker wrote:
https://forward.com/news/532350/george-santos-congressman-lie-about-9-11-newly-released-documents/

Another lie about George Santos's mother...she wasn't even in the United States on 9/11.

I'll be totally honest, this one wasn't on my bingo card.

About 7 years ago, pre-Trumpworld, I think you'd be dragged out of office anywhere near NYC if you lied like that about 9/11. Old school Bush types like Condi and Rummy probably would have openly speculated about sending you to Guantanamo on the Sunday shows.

So far the only thing true about him has been the check fraud charge in Brazil...

I did see something shared on Twitter from Brazilian news that a woman traveled to the US with him in 2014 on vacation, and he drained her bank accounts and pawned her jewelry. Haven't looked for the original article though.
 
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Re: Everything That George Santos Has Lied About (So Far)

Wed Jan 18, 2023 8:17 pm

Is his name really George Santos?.
 
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Re: Everything That George Santos Has Lied About (So Far)

Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:24 pm

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Is his name really George Santos?.


Apparently not - it is, or might be, Anthony Devolder. And, by the sounds of it, Mr. Devolder doesn't much care about veterans or their dying dogs...

Santos accused of taking $3K from GoFundMe for veteran’s dying dog

Two military veterans say that Rep. George Santos (R-N.Y.) stole thousands of dollars from a fundraiser for a dying dog in 2016, adding to the heap of bizarre falsehoods and tales about the embattled lawmaker’s past.

The Patch story includes alleged texts between Osthoff and Santos, who was operating under the name “Anthony Devolder,” an alias Santos frequently used.

Santos denied the allegations to Semafor, saying he has “no clue who this is.”


https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3818 ... dying-dog/
 
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Re: Everything That George Santos Has Lied About (So Far)

Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:36 pm

Oh here we go, another news dump:

The woman he swindled out of thousands, drained her bank accounts, and stole her jewelry:
https://nypost.com/2023/01/14/brazilian ... -her-life/

Used a fake Jewish name on a GoFundMe because "Jews will give more [to another Jew]":
https://www.businessinsider.com/santos- ... ate-2023-1

Does anyone want to put together an omnibus post of everything he's lied about? Chances are by the time you're done it will have to be updated, and they appear to have removed edit post from NonAv.

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