bluecrew wrote:

LittleFokker wrote:

https://forward.com/news/532350/george-santos-congressman-lie-about-9-11-newly-released-documents/

Another lie about George Santos's mother...she wasn't even in the United States on 9/11.

I'll be totally honest, this one wasn't on my bingo card.

About 7 years ago, pre-Trumpworld, I think you'd be dragged out of office anywhere near NYC if you lied like that about 9/11. Old school Bush types like Condi and Rummy probably would have openly speculated about sending you to Guantanamo on the Sunday shows.

So far the only thing true about him has been the check fraud charge in Brazil...

I did see something shared on Twitter from Brazilian news that a woman traveled to the US with him in 2014 on vacation, and he drained her bank accounts and pawned her jewelry. Haven't looked for the original article though.

That’s why it’s even more strange Rummy has allied himself with MAGA types who question 9/11. Just blows the mind - but more likely he blew his.

As for Santos, the ‘follow the money’ chord rings more true than ever.

There was a sizeable portion of the political right that believed Obama was a secret Muslim , Kenyan, manchurian candidate.

Today, there are those on the right that are convinced Democrat politicians are planted tools of Soros and the WEF, with nefarious intent.

Yet, here we are, with a candidate whose true past seems as opaque as a bowl of oatmeal - whose entire background seems to be a series of lies - and they are oddly silent. One can only wonder why that is .. one can only wonder …

And then the final straw...
[b]Santos accused of taking $3K from GoFundMe for veteran’s dying dog{/b]

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3818 ... dying-dog/

Snatching $3K and absconding...like a hungry dog and fallen hotdog piece.

Now if that doesn't underscore a truly greedy SOB...nothing will.

How low can you go to plead for funds over dying dog and that of veteran no less...
He's not finished. He's learned only how steal more and lie more..you just can't get any scummier than that.

My own dog, beaten nearly to death as puppy by some of the most despicable samples of human to walk the Earth. I'll stop there. The depravity of certain humans have no end.

So you my disdain for this clown has increased 100%!



BN747

Thought this was pretty funny, coming from a NASA astronaut. Although obviously a parody, of course.

https://twitter.com/StationCDRKelly/sta ... 7682876418

Just saw the actual veteran speak his own words...

..heart breaking. Especially for those who know the faithfulness these excellent creatures.

BN747

And.. There's more

George Santos says his mom was in the World Trade Center on 9/11. Records show she wasn't in the U.S.
The congressman said on his website that his mother was in the South Tower during the Sept. 11 attacks. Newly obtained records indicate she was living in Rio de Janeiro at the time.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congre ... -rcna66411

I worked from 2008-2021 with persons who were in WTC 1 on 9/11when hit by the airplane and survived. His saying his mom was in WTC 2 during the attacks when she clearly wasn't is an obscene offense to me and many others. Along with his massive fraud as to his life, it it proving that Santos is a profoundly mentally ill person and should be in a long-term in-patient psychiatric hospital not in Congress.The news media must keep hounding him, find more on him to force him to resign.

ltbewr wrote:

Along with his massive fraud as to his life, it it proving that Santos is a profoundly mentally ill person and should be in a long-term in-patient psychiatric hospital not in Congress.

Based on the recent spectacle of the House Speaker election, I'd argue there is little difference between those locations right now. But he won't receive the needed care in the House, so I agree with you on that.

Well, if all the fake resume and stealing from veterans and lying about college and using different names will not get him kicked out of office, surely this will

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... republican
https://www.out.com/news/2023/1/18/soci ... -performer

Reports are surfacing he was a drag queen in Brazil. With all the outrage over "drag queen story time" from the MAGAs, I just wonder what lengths they will go to defending him yet again.

seb146 wrote:

Well, if all the fake resume and stealing from veterans and lying about college and using different names will not get him kicked out of office, surely this will

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... republican
https://www.out.com/news/2023/1/18/soci ... -performer

Reports are surfacing he was a drag queen in Brazil. With all the outrage over "drag queen story time" from the MAGAs, I just wonder what lengths they will go to defending him yet again.

I'm just going to share the picture I saw on Twitter... lol

This one's definitely him.

https://twitter.com/brunotorreira/statu ... 8422843397

ltbewr wrote:

I worked from 2008-2021 with persons who were in WTC 1 on 9/11when hit by the airplane and survived. His saying his mom was in WTC 2 during the attacks when she clearly wasn't is an obscene offense to me and many others. Along with his massive fraud as to his life, it it proving that Santos is a profoundly mentally ill person and should be in a long-term in-patient psychiatric hospital not in Congress.The news media must keep hounding him, find more on him to force him to resign.

New Yorkers did elect him.

And he was not on "Hannah Montana"???

https://www.yahoo.com/news/appears-geor ... 28205.html

Say it ain't so!!! :/

Rep. Santos has asked House Republican leaders to be removed from his Committee assignments until his legal issues are resolved.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/31/politics ... index.html
Of course he won't do the honorable thing and resign and the Republicans with a narrow margin of control in the House won't push him to resign.

SEAorPWM wrote:

ltbewr wrote:

I worked from 2008-2021 with persons who were in WTC 1 on 9/11when hit by the airplane and survived. His saying his mom was in WTC 2 during the attacks when she clearly wasn't is an obscene offense to me and many others. Along with his massive fraud as to his life, it it proving that Santos is a profoundly mentally ill person and should be in a long-term in-patient psychiatric hospital not in Congress.The news media must keep hounding him, find more on him to force him to resign.

New Yorkers did elect him.

I think it's clear he isn't going to resign. How the Media runs after him is comical. It's clear he probably won't run in the next primary and hopefully it will be Zeldin against Suozzi in 2024.

NIKV69 wrote:

SEAorPWM wrote:

ltbewr wrote:

I worked from 2008-2021 with persons who were in WTC 1 on 9/11when hit by the airplane and survived. His saying his mom was in WTC 2 during the attacks when she clearly wasn't is an obscene offense to me and many others. Along with his massive fraud as to his life, it it proving that Santos is a profoundly mentally ill person and should be in a long-term in-patient psychiatric hospital not in Congress.The news media must keep hounding him, find more on him to force him to resign.

New Yorkers did elect him.

I think it's clear he isn't going to resign. How the Media runs after him is comical. It's clear he probably won't run in the next primary and hopefully it will be Zeldin against Suozzi in 2024.

The media does not have to "run after him" though. He is messing his life up all on his own. He may not need to resign on his own. He may be removed from office for violating campaign finance laws

https://apnews.com/article/politics-dis ... 59885e9078
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/27/politics ... index.html
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... er-alleges

Apparently, Mr. Santos or whatever the gentleman goes by, he isn't or wasn't gay as well or was two-timing with a woman with whom he shared a flat with. This was on Jimmy Kennel show. I don't have more details as it was on th show and I can only read the subtitles.

pune wrote:

Apparently, Mr. Santos or whatever the gentleman goes by, he isn't or wasn't gay as well or was two-timing with a woman with whom he shared a flat with. This was on Jimmy Kennel show. I don't have more details as it was on th show and I can only read the subtitles.

This is not correct. Santos’ ex-boyfriend was on CNN and claimed she shared a flat with Santos and a woman, who was his wife. The ex had no idea at the time that Santos was even married and was told the woman was just his roommate. Indeed, the woman was dating someone else, too. This strongly suggests that Santos’ “marriage” was a sham to in order for the woman to get papers to stay in the US legally. Marriage fraud is considered a felony.

As I’ve commented above, I’ve met Santos before when he was campaigning at a restaurant I was eating at with my wife. And it was was pretty obvious he was gay.

leader1 wrote:

pune wrote:

Apparently, Mr. Santos or whatever the gentleman goes by, he isn't or wasn't gay as well or was two-timing with a woman with whom he shared a flat with. This was on Jimmy Kennel show. I don't have more details as it was on th show and I can only read the subtitles.

This is not correct. Santos’ ex-boyfriend was on CNN and claimed she shared a flat with Santos and a woman, who was his wife. The ex had no idea at the time that Santos was even married and was told the woman was just his roommate. Indeed, the woman was dating someone else, too. This strongly suggests that Santos’ “marriage” was a sham to in order for the woman to get papers to stay in the US legally. Marriage fraud is considered a felony.

As I’ve commented above, I’ve met Santos before when he was campaigning at a restaurant I was eating at with my wife. And it was was pretty obvious he was gay.

Thanks, probably took money for that too from that lady as well

seb146 wrote:

NIKV69 wrote:

SEAorPWM wrote:

New Yorkers did elect him.

I think it's clear he isn't going to resign. How the Media runs after him is comical. It's clear he probably won't run in the next primary and hopefully it will be Zeldin against Suozzi in 2024.

The media does not have to "run after him" though. He is messing his life up all on his own. He may not need to resign on his own. He may be removed from office for violating campaign finance laws

https://apnews.com/article/politics-dis ... 59885e9078
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/27/politics ... index.html
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... er-alleges

Well then there is a process. Let it play out. Though I love to watch the reporters run after him. It's so comical.

NIKV69 wrote:

seb146 wrote:

NIKV69 wrote:

I think it's clear he isn't going to resign. How the Media runs after him is comical. It's clear he probably won't run in the next primary and hopefully it will be Zeldin against Suozzi in 2024.

The media does not have to "run after him" though. He is messing his life up all on his own. He may not need to resign on his own. He may be removed from office for violating campaign finance laws

https://apnews.com/article/politics-dis ... 59885e9078
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/27/politics ... index.html
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... er-alleges

Well then there is a process. Let it play out. Though I love to watch the reporters run after him. It's so comical.

Again:

The media are not "running after him." All these lies come out, the media fact checks, then reports. That's how media is supposed to work. Another allegation comes up about him, the media reports it. It is not the media making stuff up. If they did he would have been running some illegal business out of the basement of a pizza parlor.

seb146 wrote:

Again:

The media are not "running after him." All these lies come out, the media fact checks, then reports. That's how media is supposed to work. Another allegation comes up about him, the media reports it. It is not the media making stuff up. If they did he would have been running some illegal business out of the basement of a pizza parlor.

It's automatic operating procedure for MAGA's to claim media bias and persecution. It's one of Trump's standard lines. In this case it's particularly ridiculous, as the lies are well documented, and not even disputed by Santos himself. But the problem is not Santos or the lies or the GOP organization that put him in office. Why no, it's the media, of course. Any MAGA can see that, it's obvious.

NIKV69 wrote:

seb146 wrote:

NIKV69 wrote:

I think it's clear he isn't going to resign. How the Media runs after him is comical. It's clear he probably won't run in the next primary and hopefully it will be Zeldin against Suozzi in 2024.

The media does not have to "run after him" though. He is messing his life up all on his own. He may not need to resign on his own. He may be removed from office for violating campaign finance laws

https://apnews.com/article/politics-dis ... 59885e9078
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/27/politics ... index.html
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... er-alleges

Well then there is a process. Let it play out. Though I love to watch the reporters run after him. It's so comical.

It's a shame that the product of the greatest voter fraud scam ever pulled (other than Traitor Trump) being pursued by the people who make it their job to follow story after story is seen as a joke as opposed the offense playing out before our very eyes...a King side Liar taking the pledge of Allegiance to the nation, has got to cheapen the whole of what the pledge represents.

A Democracy's weakest links find anything about this 'funny'... over insulting.

BN747

seb146 wrote:

Again:

The media are not "running after him." All these lies come out, the media fact checks, then reports. That's how media is supposed to work. Another allegation comes up about him, the media reports it. It is not the media making stuff up. If they did he would have been running some illegal business out of the basement of a pizza parlor.

I meant that literally. Yes they are. Watch the news stories on it. He bolts from this office and the race is on.

BN747 wrote:

It's a shame that the product of the greatest voter fraud scam ever pulled (other than Traitor Trump) being pursued by the people who make it their job to follow story after story is seen as a joke as opposed the offense playing out before our very eyes...a King side Liar taking the pledge of Allegiance to the nation, has got to cheapen the whole of what the pledge represents.

A Democracy's weakest links find anything about this 'funny'... over insulting.

BN747

More insulting is that Zimmerman and his campaign were asleep at the switch for a simple check would have brought this to light and probably guaranteed a Zimmerman victory. Which should be more of a laugh.

NIKV69 wrote:

[s.

More insulting is that Zimmerman and his campaign were asleep at the switch for a simple check would have brought this to light and probably guaranteed a Zimmerman victory. Which should be more of a laugh.

I have to agree with you. They must've not done the most basic search on his background.

NIKV69 wrote:

seb146 wrote:

Again:

The media are not "running after him." All these lies come out, the media fact checks, then reports. That's how media is supposed to work. Another allegation comes up about him, the media reports it. It is not the media making stuff up. If they did he would have been running some illegal business out of the basement of a pizza parlor.

I meant that literally. Yes they are. Watch the news stories on it. He bolts from this office and the race is on.

Sounds more like cowardice. Dodging people demanding answers.

NIKV69 wrote:

seb146 wrote:

Again:

The media are not "running after him." All these lies come out, the media fact checks, then reports. That's how media is supposed to work. Another allegation comes up about him, the media reports it. It is not the media making stuff up. If they did he would have been running some illegal business out of the basement of a pizza parlor.

I meant that literally. Yes they are. Watch the news stories on it. He bolts from this office and the race is on.

BN747 wrote:

It's a shame that the product of the greatest voter fraud scam ever pulled (other than Traitor Trump) being pursued by the people who make it their job to follow story after story is seen as a joke as opposed the offense playing out before our very eyes...a King side Liar taking the pledge of Allegiance to the nation, has got to cheapen the whole of what the pledge represents.

A Democracy's weakest links find anything about this 'funny'... over insulting.

BN747

More insulting is that Zimmerman and his campaign were asleep at the switch for a simple check would have brought this to light and probably guaranteed a Zimmerman victory. Which should be more of a laugh.

No argument there, aside from firing ir dismissing everyone on his campaign sfaff..he should blacklist each every one of them for sleeping at the wheel.
And being the Dem..if he had one LGBTQ staffer (and odds are extremely high)...rostisserie his/her resume as his/her gaydar has expired...or the gay staffers weren't really gay but played the part to land the gig in the place therefore missing Santos by a mile.


But the loser CONgressman being the living breathing icon and face of the Swamp is worth having every available journalist up his political ass just we this with the tendency to 'fall asleep' at the wheel can no longer use that excuse as we (even the most cluelss) would know exactly how to spotlight First Class BS'er like Santos.

I wanna say, he's got to be the last scam artist to make it this far, but Trump pulling it off for the Executive Branch, Santos for the House (Legislative), Gorsach, Coney Barrett, Alito and Kavanaugh has polluted the Judicial - lying their asses in the most egregious and offensive ways to gain their positions to power and influence are lessons not going missed my up and coming generations.

When I was a kid, everyone was say 'politics was BS', and they were right.difference is those prior generations lacked instant real time anywhere on the planet details about almost anyone alive...so here we are able to know astronomically more about candidates than our predecessors and yet the cretins can do right before your eyes and people think it's cute ..or funny.

That is vote for ending democracy in the kindess of terms.

BN747

johns624 wrote:

NIKV69 wrote:

[s.

More insulting is that Zimmerman and his campaign were asleep at the switch for a simple check would have brought this to light and probably guaranteed a Zimmerman victory. Which should be more of a laugh.

I have to agree with you. They must've not done the most basic search on his background.

Or alternatively, their "dirt department" is not as well developed as the GOP, running on the issues instead. I hardly think that's cause for criticism. But it does highlight the difference in thinking and strategy. Wanting to win on the merits instead of by finding dirt on the opposition. High road vs low road.

johns624 wrote:

NIKV69 wrote:

[s.

More insulting is that Zimmerman and his campaign were asleep at the switch for a simple check would have brought this to light and probably guaranteed a Zimmerman victory. Which should be more of a laugh.

I have to agree with you. They must've not done the most basic search on his background.

Interesting take. The Democrats may have been incompetent in not discovering Santos' lies. I see reports that the Republicans did research Santos, as a result of which a number of his election staff resigned. And the Republicans still ran him implicitly endorsing his fake persona. No problem.

NIK has proclaimed that the plurality voted for him. Did they ? Or did they vote for a Brazilian jew whose grandparents escaped the Holocaust and mother died as a result of 9/11, was educated at Baruch College and New York University and worked at Citibank and Goldman Sachs, moving on to found an animal shelter ?

If NIK and Johns worked in HR and were faced with an employee with such a bogus job application, what would you do ? We know what Kevin McCarthy is doing.

VolvoBus wrote:

johns624 wrote:

NIKV69 wrote:

[s.

If NIK and Johns worked in HR and were faced with an employee with such a bogus job application, what would you do ? We know what Kevin McCarthy is doing.

The big difference is that HR's job does not depend on having the said POS on board

VolvoBus wrote:

johns624 wrote:

NIKV69 wrote:

[s.

More insulting is that Zimmerman and his campaign were asleep at the switch for a simple check would have brought this to light and probably guaranteed a Zimmerman victory. Which should be more of a laugh.

I have to agree with you. They must've not done the most basic search on his background.

Interesting take. The Democrats may have been incompetent in not discovering Santos' lies. I see reports that the Republicans did research Santos, as a result of which a number of his election staff resigned. And the Republicans still ran him implicitly endorsing his fake persona. No problem.

NIK has proclaimed that the plurality voted for him. Did they ? Or did they vote for a Brazilian jew whose grandparents escaped the Holocaust and mother died as a result of 9/11, was educated at Baruch College and New York University and worked at Citibank and Goldman Sachs, moving on to found an animal shelter ?

If NIK and Johns worked in HR and were faced with an employee with such a bogus job application, what would you do ? We know what Kevin McCarthy is doing.

Nowhere did I give a pass to the GOP. I never mentioned them at all. I was merely agreeing with something another poster said. That was that the Dems were asleep at the wheel. Don't put words in my mouth.

BN747 wrote:

No argument there, aside from firing ir dismissing everyone on his campaign sfaff..he should blacklist each every one of them for sleeping at the wheel.
And being the Dem..if he had one LGBTQ staffer (and odds are extremely high)...rostisserie his/her resume as his/her gaydar has expired...or the gay staffers weren't really gay but played the part to land the gig in the place therefore missing Santos by a mile.

BN747

What does "gaydar" have to do with this. Being gay is the one thing that Santos didn't lie about.

cskok8 wrote:

VolvoBus wrote:

johns624 wrote:

The big difference is that HR's job does not depend on having the said POS on board

Bingo.

He's not even scoring points with OAN.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbGMIhuEqy0

johns624 wrote:

VolvoBus wrote:

johns624 wrote:

I have to agree with you. They must've not done the most basic search on his background.

Interesting take. The Democrats may have been incompetent in not discovering Santos' lies. I see reports that the Republicans did research Santos, as a result of which a number of his election staff resigned. And the Republicans still ran him implicitly endorsing his fake persona. No problem.

NIK has proclaimed that the plurality voted for him. Did they ? Or did they vote for a Brazilian jew whose grandparents escaped the Holocaust and mother died as a result of 9/11, was educated at Baruch College and New York University and worked at Citibank and Goldman Sachs, moving on to found an animal shelter ?

If NIK and Johns worked in HR and were faced with an employee with such a bogus job application, what would you do ? We know what Kevin McCarthy is doing.

Nowhere did I give a pass to the GOP. I never mentioned them at all. I was merely agreeing with something another poster said. That was that the Dems were asleep at the wheel. Don't put words in my mouth.

Republicans were asleep at the wheel as well. Blame Democrats all you want, but this is a REPUBLICAN. Santos is actually proving a very important point: if you have an (R) behind your name, you can get away with anything and we should not care. Further, we must blame Democrats.

seb146 wrote:

johns624 wrote:

VolvoBus wrote:

Interesting take. The Democrats may have been incompetent in not discovering Santos' lies. I see reports that the Republicans did research Santos, as a result of which a number of his election staff resigned. And the Republicans still ran him implicitly endorsing his fake persona. No problem.

NIK has proclaimed that the plurality voted for him. Did they ? Or did they vote for a Brazilian jew whose grandparents escaped the Holocaust and mother died as a result of 9/11, was educated at Baruch College and New York University and worked at Citibank and Goldman Sachs, moving on to found an animal shelter ?

If NIK and Johns worked in HR and were faced with an employee with such a bogus job application, what would you do ? We know what Kevin McCarthy is doing.

Nowhere did I give a pass to the GOP. I never mentioned them at all. I was merely agreeing with something another poster said. That was that the Dems were asleep at the wheel. Don't put words in my mouth.

Republicans were asleep at the wheel as well. Blame Democrats all you want, but this is a REPUBLICAN. Santos is actually proving a very important point: if you have an (R) behind your name, you can get away with anything and we should not care. Further, we must blame Democrats.

It's both their faults. As far as R's being able to get away with anything, never forget old Ted Kennedy and his midnight swim, or Billy's "I did not have sex" lies. Both sides are dirty. This time it just happens to be the GOP's turn.

There are growing protests in front of Rep. Santos' district office, petitions requesting he resign by persons in his district and political activists and plans for a bus to DC for some from his district to 'visit' him to plead for him to resign. https://abc7ny.com/george-santos-protes ... /12758164/

ltbewr wrote:

There are growing protests in front of Rep. Santos' district office, petitions requesting he resign by persons in his district and political activists and plans for a bus to DC for some from his district to 'visit' him to plead for him to resign. https://abc7ny.com/george-santos-protes ... /12758164/

That's OK. They can just break in.

Multiple criminal charges seem to be in the offing.

If you had told me 6 months ago that the first illegal immigrant, gay, Latino, drag queen member of the House would be a Republican I would have called you dirty liar... yet, here we are.

Good on the media for chasing and hounding him... the guy is obviously a dishonorable serial liar and it is comical that he thought he could pull the wool over everyone's eyes. He looks like a deer in the headlights now that he has been found out. Hound away media, hound away! May he slink back into the cesspool the GOP pulled him from.

skyservice_330 wrote:

If you had told me 6 months ago that the first illegal immigrant, gay, Latino, drag queen member of the House would be a Republican I would have called you dirty liar... yet, here we are.

He was born here.

I stand corrected. It was my understanding his status was murky in terms of the maze of marriage stories and his connections to Brazil

johns624 wrote:

skyservice_330 wrote:

If you had told me 6 months ago that the first illegal immigrant, gay, Latino, drag queen member of the House would be a Republican I would have called you dirty liar... yet, here we are.

He was born here.

We really don't know that for sure. He has never shown a birth certificate. Why should he be given the benefit of the doubt on this, too?

johns624 wrote:

seb146 wrote:

johns624 wrote:

Nowhere did I give a pass to the GOP. I never mentioned them at all. I was merely agreeing with something another poster said. That was that the Dems were asleep at the wheel. Don't put words in my mouth.

Republicans were asleep at the wheel as well. Blame Democrats all you want, but this is a REPUBLICAN. Santos is actually proving a very important point: if you have an (R) behind your name, you can get away with anything and we should not care. Further, we must blame Democrats.

It's both their faults. As far as R's being able to get away with anything, never forget old Ted Kennedy and his midnight swim, or Billy's "I did not have sex" lies. Both sides are dirty. This time it just happens to be the GOP's turn.

Santos is the democrats' fault because #bothsides and things that happened 30-50+ years ago.

JFC.

MaverickM11 wrote:

johns624 wrote:

seb146 wrote:

Republicans were asleep at the wheel as well. Blame Democrats all you want, but this is a REPUBLICAN. Santos is actually proving a very important point: if you have an (R) behind your name, you can get away with anything and we should not care. Further, we must blame Democrats.

It's both their faults. As far as R's being able to get away with anything, never forget old Ted Kennedy and his midnight swim, or Billy's "I did not have sex" lies. Both sides are dirty. This time it just happens to be the GOP's turn.

Santos is the democrats' fault because #bothsides and things that happened 30-50+ years ago.

JFC.

I'm not the one who said that only Reps do it. I was just inserting some facts. Besides, manslaughter IS worse.
Your problem, like so many, is that you think that anyone who doesn't think exactly like you, must be the opposite (enemy). I'm a moderate. Sometimes I agree with the left, sometimes I agree with the right, but most of the time, I think they're both full of crap.

johns624 wrote:

MaverickM11 wrote:

johns624 wrote:

It's both their faults. As far as R's being able to get away with anything, never forget old Ted Kennedy and his midnight swim, or Billy's "I did not have sex" lies. Both sides are dirty. This time it just happens to be the GOP's turn.

Santos is the democrats' fault because #bothsides and things that happened 30-50+ years ago.

JFC.

I'm not the one who said that only Reps do it. I was just inserting some facts. Besides, manslaughter IS worse.
Your problem, like so many, is that you think that anyone who doesn't think exactly like you, must be the opposite (enemy). I'm a moderate. Sometimes I agree with the left, sometimes I agree with the right, but most of the time, I think they're both full of crap.

How long did Republicans (Santos is a Republican, remember) have to make sure he had nothing horribly shady in his past? I know it does not matter when it is a Republican but they could have at least made an effort with their own candidate.

Democrats can lie because Santos and Republicans are doing nothing to punish Santos so why should Democrats be held to a completely different and ridiculously high standard Republicans put out there if Republicans don't even hold their own to that same impossibly ridiculously high standard?

If Republicans need examples, look how quickly Democrats abandoned Rod Blagojevich and Anthony Wiener and William Jefferson and even Gary Hart. Even now, Democrats are calling for rule changes and investigations of Biden having documents from his vice-presidency. A far, far, far cry from Republicans devil-may-care attitude to their own lying and cheating members.

johns624 wrote:

BN747 wrote:

No argument there, aside from firing ir dismissing everyone on his campaign sfaff..he should blacklist each every one of them for sleeping at the wheel.
And being the Dem..if he had one LGBTQ staffer (and odds are extremely high)...rostisserie his/her resume as his/her gaydar has expired...or the gay staffers weren't really gay but played the part to land the gig in the place therefore missing Santos by a mile.

BN747

What does "gaydar" have to do with this. Being gay is the one thing that Santos didn't lie about.

It has a lot to do with certain personalities in the three pillars power - Politics (DC), Finance (NYC) and Entertainment (filmed ent. to influencers to sports)

Intel is extremely valuable and in many cases it's everything. And if someone on Zimmermans's team was /is gay, then they either knew all about Santos or should have. There are circles that even the heteros can't break into when it comes to getting deep 411 on someone. It's called taking advantage of every angle possible..it's a play of strategic importance.

BN747

BN747 wrote:

johns624 wrote:

BN747 wrote:

No argument there, aside from firing ir dismissing everyone on his campaign sfaff..he should blacklist each every one of them for sleeping at the wheel.
And being the Dem..if he had one LGBTQ staffer (and odds are extremely high)...rostisserie his/her resume as his/her gaydar has expired...or the gay staffers weren't really gay but played the part to land the gig in the place therefore missing Santos by a mile.

BN747

What does "gaydar" have to do with this. Being gay is the one thing that Santos didn't lie about.

It has a lot to do with certain personalities in the three pillars power - Politics (DC), Finance (NYC) and Entertainment (filmed ent. to influencers to sports)

Intel is extremely valuable and in many cases it's everything. And if someone on Zimmermans's team was /is gay, then they either knew all about Santos or should have. There are circles that even the heteros can't break into when it comes to getting deep 411 on someone. It's called taking advantage of every angle possible..it's a play of strategic importance.

BN747

Okay. I misunderstood you. I thought you were referring to the Dems not knowing Santos was gay, not that those in the gay lifestyle may have known more about him.

johns624 wrote:

BN747 wrote:

johns624 wrote:

What does "gaydar" have to do with this. Being gay is the one thing that Santos didn't lie about.

It has a lot to do with certain personalities in the three pillars power - Politics (DC), Finance (NYC) and Entertainment (filmed ent. to influencers to sports)

Intel is extremely valuable and in many cases it's everything. And if someone on Zimmermans's team was /is gay, then they either knew all about Santos or should have. There are circles that even the heteros can't break into when it comes to getting deep 411 on someone. It's called taking advantage of every angle possible..it's a play of strategic importance.

BN747

Okay. I misunderstood you. I thought you were referring to the Dems not knowing Santos was gay, not that those in the gay lifestyle may have known more about him.

A candidate being gay is meaningless. That is low hanging fruit. No one cares (except MAGAs). Republican handlers should have done their due diligence and checked out his education history and his work history and his financial history. He was their candidate. It was Republicans who should have known first and most.

seb146 wrote:

johns624 wrote:

BN747 wrote:

It has a lot to do with certain personalities in the three pillars power - Politics (DC), Finance (NYC) and Entertainment (filmed ent. to influencers to sports)

Intel is extremely valuable and in many cases it's everything. And if someone on Zimmermans's team was /is gay, then they either knew all about Santos or should have. There are circles that even the heteros can't break into when it comes to getting deep 411 on someone. It's called taking advantage of every angle possible..it's a play of strategic importance.

BN747

Okay. I misunderstood you. I thought you were referring to the Dems not knowing Santos was gay, not that those in the gay lifestyle may have known more about him.

A candidate being gay is meaningless. That is low hanging fruit. No one cares (except MAGAs). Republican handlers should have done their due diligence and checked out his education history and his work history and his financial history. He was their candidate. It was Republicans who should have known first and most.

You may want to reread what BN747 wrote that I was replying to.

If nothing else, this episode demonstrates what an incredibly low bar exists to be elected to Congress. Which is an example of unintended consequences.

When the Constitution was written, and the congressional eligibility requirements established, only a privileged segment of the population was able to vote. It would been reasonable back then to assume that voters would be well-informed, engaged, and competent to weed out bad candidates.

Flash forward to now, with universal suffrage, and the problem of “low information voters,” and we now have various buffoons, frauds, liars, and malcontents being elected to office.

It’s a victory for democracy but at a cost for responsible governance.

Santos is now being accused of sexual harassment. This dude simply can’t catch a break!

https://www.businessinsider.com/rep-geo ... fer-2023-2