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A 6-year-old boy is in police custody after he shot a teacher at Richneck Elementary School in Newport News, Virginia, Friday afternoon, Police Chief Steve Drew said in a news conference.
"The individual is a 6-year-old student. He is right now in police custody," Drew said. "We have been in contact with our commonwealth attorney and some other entities to help us best get services to this young man."
leader1 wrote:Queue the “thoughts and prayers” and ridiculous mental gymnastics ”moar gunzzz” defenses in 3…2…
leader1 wrote:Queue the “thoughts and prayers” and ridiculous mental gymnastics ”moar gunzzz” defenses in 3…2…
Kiwirob wrote:leader1 wrote:Queue the “thoughts and prayers” and ridiculous mental gymnastics ”moar gunzzz” defenses in 3…2…
One wonders if the teacher was armed would she have been entitled to shoot the 6 year old in self defence?
TriJets wrote:The only thing you can really do here is charge the parents. They should not have left a gun someplace that their young child could access it.
scbriml wrote:TriJets wrote:The only thing you can really do here is charge the parents. They should not have left a gun someplace that their young child could access it.
While the most likely source of the gun, has it been confirmed yet?
wirkey wrote:treat and try him as an adult! Hope he gets the harshest punishment possible.
Spoiler Alert: this post may contain sarcasm and/or irony.
readytotaxi wrote:More scary is that this child could go before a court in the US on a charge!
A serious look into the childs upringing/domestic situation is required. Hope the teacher recovers 100%, we need more teachers, and the child receives gentle guidence going foward.
TriJets wrote:The only thing you can really do here is charge the parents. They should not have left a gun someplace that their young child could access it.
stratosphere wrote:TriJets wrote:The only thing you can really do here is charge the parents. They should not have left a gun someplace that their young child could access it.
Actually I am a big advocate of this...We have a lot of underage criminals in this country where are the parent(s)? Start throwing the parents in jail and fine the hell out of them the kids go to child services and or foster care until parents get their act together. In this case the child is only 6 so for sure the blame lies with the parent or guardian. Confiscate all the guns from the owner and charge them with a felony so they cannot legally purchase another firearm.
stratosphere wrote:I also agree. I don't know any gun owners who don't agree the parents are responsible and should be charged.TriJets wrote:The only thing you can really do here is charge the parents. They should not have left a gun someplace that their young child could access it.
Actually I am a big advocate of this...We have a lot of underage criminals in this country where are the parent(s)? Start throwing the parents in jail and fine the hell out of them the kids go to child services and or foster care until parents get their act together. In this case the child is only 6 so for sure the blame lies with the parent or guardian. Confiscate all the guns from the owner and charge them with a felony so they cannot legally purchase another firearm.
scbriml wrote:readytotaxi wrote:More scary is that this child could go before a court in the US on a charge!
A serious look into the childs upringing/domestic situation is required. Hope the teacher recovers 100%, we need more teachers, and the child receives gentle guidence going foward.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
johns624 wrote:stratosphere wrote:I also agree. I don't know any gun owners who don't agree the parents are responsible and should be charged.TriJets wrote:The only thing you can really do here is charge the parents. They should not have left a gun someplace that their young child could access it.
Actually I am a big advocate of this...We have a lot of underage criminals in this country where are the parent(s)? Start throwing the parents in jail and fine the hell out of them the kids go to child services and or foster care until parents get their act together. In this case the child is only 6 so for sure the blame lies with the parent or guardian. Confiscate all the guns from the owner and charge them with a felony so they cannot legally purchase another firearm.
seb146 wrote:You're not very good at sarcasm. Every time responsible gun owners try to get current laws enforced, liberals like you say that they impact minorities too much.johns624 wrote:stratosphere wrote:I also agree. I don't know any gun owners who don't agree the parents are responsible and should be charged.
Actually I am a big advocate of this...We have a lot of underage criminals in this country where are the parent(s)? Start throwing the parents in jail and fine the hell out of them the kids go to child services and or foster care until parents get their act together. In this case the child is only 6 so for sure the blame lies with the parent or guardian. Confiscate all the guns from the owner and charge them with a felony so they cannot legally purchase another firearm.
But parents can't be held accountable because that would infringe on their Second Amendement rights! More guns in more hands makes a much safer society. Ask Somalia or Rwanda or Afghanistan or Brazil or Mexico
johns624 wrote:You're not very good at sarcasm. Every time responsible gun owners try to get current laws enforced, liberals like you say that they impact minorities too much.
Newark727 wrote:You've never heard prosecutors not go after firearms offenses because they disproportionately affect minorities?johns624 wrote:You're not very good at sarcasm. Every time responsible gun owners try to get current laws enforced, liberals like you say that they impact minorities too much.
I have legit never heard anyone say this.
johns624 wrote:Newark727 wrote:You've never heard prosecutors not go after firearms offenses because they disproportionately affect minorities?johns624 wrote:You're not very good at sarcasm. Every time responsible gun owners try to get current laws enforced, liberals like you say that they impact minorities too much.
I have legit never heard anyone say this.
Here's two Michigan county prosecutors...
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/ ... 295769002/
alex0easy wrote:Future GOP congressman.
scbriml wrote:alex0easy wrote:Future GOP congressman.
He's certainly ticking all the right boxes.
Take a bow, Sir!
petertenthije wrote:scbriml wrote:alex0easy wrote:Future GOP congressman.
He's certainly ticking all the right boxes.
Take a bow, Sir!
Then it’s a good thing he drops out of school at the age of 6. The GOP don’t like it when members can think for themselves.
TriJets wrote:petertenthije wrote:scbriml wrote:
He's certainly ticking all the right boxes.
Take a bow, Sir!
Then it’s a good thing he drops out of school at the age of 6. The GOP don’t like it when members can think for themselves.
You ever been to Newport News? Doubtful this kids family is the GOP type.
stratosphere wrote:Actually I am a big advocate of this...We have a lot of underage criminals in this country where are the parent(s)? Start throwing the parents in jail and fine the hell out of them the kids go to child services and or foster care until parents get their act together. In this case the child is only 6 so for sure the blame lies with the parent or guardian. Confiscate all the guns from the owner and charge them with a felony so they cannot legally purchase another firearm.
Kiwirob wrote:in what world does a 6 year old take a weapon to school and purposefully shoots their teacher?
ACDC8 wrote:Apparently "amendments" can't be amended despite the obvious fact they are called amendments for a reason.
ACDC8 wrote:Kiwirob wrote:in what world does a 6 year old take a weapon to school and purposefully shoots their teacher?
In aworldCountry that idolizes guns so much that some put more worth in to and misinterpret an archaic script over the value of human life by misguided arguments under the myth that guns save more lives than they take and breeds it into its culture, day after day, week after week, month after month and year after year. Apparently "amendments" can't be amended despite the obvious fact they are called amendments for a reason. I mean geezus, just look at some of the political ads running with candidates blowing shit up with their booms sticks - that just ain't normal.
No point in arguing this over and over again, guns and bullets will always prevail over reason and logic that seems to have clicked everywhere else in the developed world.
Vintage wrote:ACDC8 wrote:Apparently "amendments" can't be amended despite the obvious fact they are called amendments for a reason.
The amendment in question doesn't need to be amended, it just needs to be read and understood by a literate person.
In the English language, "well regulated militia" is interpreted as 'well regulated militia', except in the minds of some of our Supreme Court Justices.
mad99 wrote:As a non-gun owner, I would assume you would need to teach someone how to unlock the trigger protection. Maybe not pulling the trigger because of films and TV, but aiming and unlocking a 6 yo is not going to know how to do. Unless the gun is left around w/o the trigger protection on and loaded!!!
A quick google show that he’s not the only 6 yo shooting people at school..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Kayla_Rolland
ltbewr wrote:
Second is America's culture toward guns. Parents not managing their child's access to violent media and video games.Parents showing violent behavior.
StarAC17 wrote:Like him or hate him Michael Moore made this arguments 20 years ago. Violent movies and video games do not increase gun violence and other violence for that matter.
Canada, the UK, Australia, New Zealand, France, Germany, the Netherlands etc. all get the same video games and movies as the US does. They are all less violent societies, because guns are harder to get.
bennett123 wrote:If they searched his bag and didn't find it, was it in the bag or elsewhere (locker?.).
As for the gun being on the top shelf, (assuming this is true) once you stand on a chair it may be reachable.
If it had a trigger lock, (which was locked) then where was the key.
DIRECTFLT wrote:James S. Ellenson, the lawyer for the family of the 6 year old has released a statement.
Lawyer: 6-year-old who shot teacher has ‘acute disability’
https://apnews.com/article/education-vi ... 10d4ff46a1
Apparently the 6 year old has intellectual and behavioral disabilities. I don't know if his special education was for him alone, or if the entire class he was in was a "special education" class. But the child was in a very rare “individualized education program” or IEP, which is provided to students with disabilities under federal law.
Regarding the disability, the family said the boy “was under a care plan at the school that included his mother or father attending school with him and accompanying him to class every day.”
But for whatever reasons, there was no parent with the child the day of the shooting. And... get this...
The superintendent of Newport News schools revealed last week that Richneck administrators had learned the child may have had a weapon before the shooting. But a search did not find the handgun, despite staff looking through his bag.
Ellenson told The Associated Press by phone Thursday evening that his understanding is that the gun was in the mother’s closet on a top shelf that was well over six feet high. The weapon also had a trigger lock that requires a key, similar to a bike lock.
I think is room here for many lawsuits from the parents of students that witnessed this shooting, against the school district.
DIRECTFLT wrote:
hh65man wrote:
Ef that, I wouldn’t be going after the school, I’d sue the piss out of the parents. It’s not the schools fault where the events started, or who’s responsible. It’s the parents, gun owners responsible. The impact of this event for the teacher, teachers, children and parents in my opinion may be unmeasurable.
StarAC17 wrote:hh65man wrote:
Ef that, I wouldn’t be going after the school, I’d sue the piss out of the parents. It’s not the schools fault where the events started, or who’s responsible. It’s the parents, gun owners responsible. The impact of this event for the teacher, teachers, children and parents in my opinion may be unmeasurable.
Civil lawsuits are about money. Suing the parents won't get much money. Suing the school of the district will get more money for the teacher.
Now if you are going to go after the parents in criminal court then by all means do it. I just don't know if you are going to get any charges result in jail as they would have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt their were negligent.
DIRECTFLT wrote:StarAC17 wrote:hh65man wrote:
Ef that, I wouldn’t be going after the school, I’d sue the piss out of the parents. It’s not the schools fault where the events started, or who’s responsible. It’s the parents, gun owners responsible. The impact of this event for the teacher, teachers, children and parents in my opinion may be unmeasurable.
Civil lawsuits are about money. Suing the parents won't get much money. Suing the school of the district will get more money for the teacher.
Now if you are going to go after the parents in criminal court then by all means do it. I just don't know if you are going to get any charges result in jail as they would have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt their were negligent.
At least with a suit against the parents, we'll get to see who they are with their perp walk.
StarAC17 wrote:ltbewr wrote:
Second is America's culture toward guns. Parents not managing their child's access to violent media and video games.Parents showing violent behavior.
Like him or hate him Michael Moore made this arguments 20 years ago. Violent movies and video games do not increase gun violence and other violence for that matter.
Canada, the UK, Australia, New Zealand, France, Germany, the Netherlands etc. all get the same video games and movies as the US does. They are all less violent societies, because guns are harder to get.
