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Kno wrote:In general i think we’re in an era of pretty ugly vehicles right now. Who designs this stuff?
Kno wrote:- unpopular opinion there’s such a thing as TOO quiet and too smooth. I like to at least hear that the thing is working lol.
ACDC8 wrote:and active exhaust systems.
- Crackling exhaust systems with ridiculous "pops and bangs".
- SUVs.
- Fake engine sound being pumped into the passenger cabin.
- "Vegan" leather aka "Pleather".
- App controlled features controlled by your phone.
cpd wrote:Most of these totally agree, except for the artificial leather, sometimes that is very good because it is more durable and looks better over the long term. Some of the artificial leather is so good you can't tell the difference.
I don't mind features being controlled from the phone, particularly pre-heating or pre-cooling the car remotely, or the ability to remotely drive a car out of a parking spot when people beside you have parked too close and you can't open the door.
That latter scenario happens so frequently in multi-story car parks here and it's a real pain. I'm lucky being a very thinly built cyclist so I can squeeze through the door, but getting injured made it much more difficult. Some BMWs have the computer key that you can use to start the car and move it forward or backwards as needed so you can get in the car, other cars have a phone app that can drive the car in or out of the parking spot completely (even 90º parking).
FLYFIRSTCLASS wrote:What are the most annoying features in cars you cannot stand? I will start....
1. Auto start stop
2. Everything is controlled through confusing screens
3. Lack of manual transmissions
4. Cars with too much tech, too confusing to figure everything out.
5. Small 4 cyl engines, electric cars.
TheFlyingDisk wrote:The only thing I find annoying in a modern car is Gloss/Piano Black trim, especially on frequently touched areas. Those things are fingerprint magnets.
Everything else, I'm fine with.
zkojq wrote:I remember watching a TV show years ago about car tow trucks.New style contactless keys and push button start. If I remove the key from the car, I want it to be off. Completely.
I'm a simple lad. I want the car to start when I insert the key and turn it clockwise. I want the car to stop when I rotate the key anti clockwise and remove it. I don't want to have trouble because my key's battery went flat. I also don't want to have trouble because of exiting the vehicle and taking the key with me but not actually turned the car all the way off, causing the battery to go flat.
Also, what on earth is up with electronic door handles? How did anyone think that would be a good idea?
Tiptronic/sequential gearboxes that make you have to push forward to upshift and pull back to downshift....that's the wrong way around.
Anything where you have to go into a menu or sub menu to adjust basic climate control functions or adjust the volume.
Small fiddly orifices that are hard to clean or vaccume out.
Pedals that are too close together.
luckyone wrote:The trend of everything needing to look like a Tonka Truck. Compare a 1990s/early 2000s F150/Silverado/Ram/Tundra to the current versions. Then there's blingification of pickup trucks, and the idiots that buy them because they might use them once a year. I love trucks. I don't like trucks that are tricked out like luxury cars and replaced as daily drivers and almost never used as a truck, especially with the short beds those crew cabs have. I learned to drive on a poverty spec 1994 Ford F150. Inline six, five speed with a shifter that wiggled around like a crowbar in a bucket of jello, you might be in third gear, you might be in fifth, didn't really matter anyway.
The death of family station wagons. Somehow we've decided that we need a car that gives the impression that we're going on the Moab trail to get the kids to school. I'd buy a Skoda Superb tomorrow if I could...
I agree with the trend of making everything an SUV. You spend 99.9999999% of your time on paved roadways, and the only time you're off of it is an unpaved parking lot or MAYBE a gravel driveway. You drive a Corolla FFS. If you lived in the Klondike you wouldn't be buying a Corolla no matter how much plastic trim is slapped on the car.
Newer cars are now also not syncing with "old" technology like original iPods. I have years worth of songs collected on there, and I don't really want to pay for the data required to stream songs I've already paid for. Let me use my mp3 player! Whew, I feel better now.
Kno wrote:luckyone wrote:The trend of everything needing to look like a Tonka Truck. Compare a 1990s/early 2000s F150/Silverado/Ram/Tundra to the current versions. Then there's blingification of pickup trucks, and the idiots that buy them because they might use them once a year. I love trucks. I don't like trucks that are tricked out like luxury cars and replaced as daily drivers and almost never used as a truck, especially with the short beds those crew cabs have. I learned to drive on a poverty spec 1994 Ford F150. Inline six, five speed with a shifter that wiggled around like a crowbar in a bucket of jello, you might be in third gear, you might be in fifth, didn't really matter anyway.
The death of family station wagons. Somehow we've decided that we need a car that gives the impression that we're going on the Moab trail to get the kids to school. I'd buy a Skoda Superb tomorrow if I could...
I agree with the trend of making everything an SUV. You spend 99.9999999% of your time on paved roadways, and the only time you're off of it is an unpaved parking lot or MAYBE a gravel driveway. You drive a Corolla FFS. If you lived in the Klondike you wouldn't be buying a Corolla no matter how much plastic trim is slapped on the car.
Newer cars are now also not syncing with "old" technology like original iPods. I have years worth of songs collected on there, and I don't really want to pay for the data required to stream songs I've already paid for. Let me use my mp3 player! Whew, I feel better now.
I drive a 2019 F150 and I would trade it in a heart beat for a 90s or 80s pick up if I could get the same gas mileage and reliability out of one. I like the old school cabins and body styles better.
TheFlyingDisk wrote:The only thing I find annoying in a modern car is Gloss/Piano Black trim, especially on frequently touched areas. Those things are fingerprint magnets.
Everything else, I'm fine with.
ltbewr wrote:It has a knob for the radio and other functions, not a distracting touch screen.
vikkyvik wrote:Touchscreens for all car functions. Why would you do that?
I always compare it to commercial airplanes, where for important functions, they still have knobs and levers with standard designs (landing gear, flaps, slats, etc.), so that you can utilize those without looking at them.
I don't want to have to look at what I'm doing, just to increase the air conditioning or something.ltbewr wrote:It has a knob for the radio and other functions, not a distracting touch screen.
Thank goodness for Mazda not going full touchscreen. I appreciate being able to do things without looking.
TangoandCash wrote:Auto stop-start (although I'd classify it as a safety hazard, not just an annoyance)
Infotainment systems which randomly lose connection to devices--it was working fine when I got out of the car five minutes ago, why do I have to go through a twelve-step pairing process now?
FLYFIRSTCLASS wrote:Oh I forgot one... Keys that require you to take out a loan to replace. After having the key to my BMW fall out of my backpack somewhere on a recent trip I went to the local BMW dealer to see how much it will cost to replace it. $937 for the key and the blade, and 4 hours labour to program it at $275/hr.
FLYFIRSTCLASS wrote:What are the most annoying features in cars you cannot stand? I will start....
1. Auto start stop
2. Everything is controlled through confusing screens
3. Lack of manual transmissions
4. Cars with too much tech, too confusing to figure everything out.
5. Small 4 cyl engines, electric cars.
casinterest wrote:A seatbelt chime that doesn't turn off when the dog jumps in the front seat.
casinterest wrote:FLYFIRSTCLASS wrote:Oh I forgot one... Keys that require you to take out a loan to replace. After having the key to my BMW fall out of my backpack somewhere on a recent trip I went to the local BMW dealer to see how much it will cost to replace it. $937 for the key and the blade, and 4 hours labour to program it at $275/hr.
This is a scam.
Just order the blanks on the internet( amazon) and look up on youtube the code for copying the old fobs .
I fixed a friend's for 25 dollars and the 2 bucks to get them cut at a key shop.
Kent350787 wrote:I’m totally on board with the piano black hate, and would like to add “carbon fibre” (or fiber). It mostly isn’t so looks as fake as it is.
luckyone wrote:Kno wrote:luckyone wrote:The trend of everything needing to look like a Tonka Truck. Compare a 1990s/early 2000s F150/Silverado/Ram/Tundra to the current versions. Then there's blingification of pickup trucks, and the idiots that buy them because they might use them once a year. I love trucks. I don't like trucks that are tricked out like luxury cars and replaced as daily drivers and almost never used as a truck, especially with the short beds those crew cabs have. I learned to drive on a poverty spec 1994 Ford F150. Inline six, five speed with a shifter that wiggled around like a crowbar in a bucket of jello, you might be in third gear, you might be in fifth, didn't really matter anyway.
The death of family station wagons. Somehow we've decided that we need a car that gives the impression that we're going on the Moab trail to get the kids to school. I'd buy a Skoda Superb tomorrow if I could...
I agree with the trend of making everything an SUV. You spend 99.9999999% of your time on paved roadways, and the only time you're off of it is an unpaved parking lot or MAYBE a gravel driveway. You drive a Corolla FFS. If you lived in the Klondike you wouldn't be buying a Corolla no matter how much plastic trim is slapped on the car.
Newer cars are now also not syncing with "old" technology like original iPods. I have years worth of songs collected on there, and I don't really want to pay for the data required to stream songs I've already paid for. Let me use my mp3 player! Whew, I feel better now.
I drive a 2019 F150 and I would trade it in a heart beat for a 90s or 80s pick up if I could get the same gas mileage and reliability out of one. I like the old school cabins and body styles better.
I've had my eyes peeled for an early 90's F150. Tanks, they were.
prebennorholm wrote:Then I was thinking, could the software be so stupid that the opposite also worked. That plessing the open-botton for 3+ seconds would open all windows. The manual said nothing. But yes, it worked !!! I must have been indoor half way sitting on the open-botton of the remote in my pocket, and...
If you have a car with a similar window feature, then you are now warned. Check if your power window programmer has been equally stupid. Just by accident did I avoid to have my car filled with fifty gallons of rain water.
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seb146 wrote:Kent350787 wrote:I’m totally on board with the piano black hate, and would like to add “carbon fibre” (or fiber). It mostly isn’t so looks as fake as it is.
I am glad the matte finish was just a one year thing and it went away.