ArchGuy1 wrote:

On Monday, an 18 year old gunman killed three people and injured six others during a mass shooting in a neighborhood in Farmington, New Mexico. What makes this shooting strange is that the attacker randomly selected people to shoot and kill.
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/farmin ... index.html

Yet so many other elements 100% familiar.

Thoughts and prayers.

Glad the police were able to kill the gunman before he caused even more harm.

TriJets wrote:

Glad the police were able to kill the gunman before he caused even more harm.

Shame it wasn’t earlier, mind.

Another good guy with a gun.

More Guns = More Deaths.

Tragic all the way around with elderly people targeted at random. Seems like this young man wanted to hurt a lot of people.
Glad the officers got him, but still sad that it happened.

casinterest wrote:

More Guns = More Deaths.

Tragic all the way around with elderly people targeted at random. Seems like this young man wanted to hurt a lot of people.
Glad the officers got him, but still sad that it happened.

More cars=more deaths. More people=more deaths. Thankfully, a good guy with a gun was able to put down this shooter before he could harm anyone else.

MrHMSH wrote:

TriJets wrote:

Glad the police were able to kill the gunman before he caused even more harm.

Shame it wasn’t earlier, mind.

Agreed. As I’ve stated a million times on here, when seconds count the police are minutes away. Of course sometimes it only takes literal seconds to inflict carnage.

What about fixing what’s broke with your society, instead of arming up to death, literally…. I mean isn’t there anyone over there who thinks like, you know this shit can’t keep going on, we need to try and fix this!

TriJets wrote:

casinterest wrote:

More Guns = More Deaths.

Tragic all the way around with elderly people targeted at random. Seems like this young man wanted to hurt a lot of people.
Glad the officers got him, but still sad that it happened.

More cars=more deaths. More people=more deaths. Thankfully, a good guy with a gun was able to put down this shooter before he could harm anyone else.

4 deaths for 1 good guy with a gun. Plus multiple people with massive injuries. More cars don't = more deaths when safety protocols, training, licenseing, registration and legal enforcement of use are engaged

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casinterest wrote:

TriJets wrote:

casinterest wrote:

More Guns = More Deaths.

Tragic all the way around with elderly people targeted at random. Seems like this young man wanted to hurt a lot of people.
Glad the officers got him, but still sad that it happened.

More cars=more deaths. More people=more deaths. Thankfully, a good guy with a gun was able to put down this shooter before he could harm anyone else.

4 deaths for 1 good guy with a gun. Plus multiple people with massive injuries. More cars don't = more deaths when safety protocols, training, licenseing, registration and legal enforcement of use are engaged

Yet traffic deaths per 100k people in the US are at their highest levels since 2007, despite everything that you listed. Unfortunately sometimes you can’t just legislate your way out of tragedy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_v ... S._by_year

TriJets wrote:

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casinterest wrote:

TriJets wrote:

More cars=more deaths. More people=more deaths. Thankfully, a good guy with a gun was able to put down this shooter before he could harm anyone else.

4 deaths for 1 good guy with a gun. Plus multiple people with massive injuries. More cars don't = more deaths when safety protocols, training, licenseing, registration and legal enforcement of use are engaged

Yet traffic deaths per 100k people in the US are at their highest levels since 2007, despite everything that you listed. Unfortunately sometimes you can’t just legislate your way out of tragedy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_v ... S._by_year

Yet the Fatalities for Vehicle Miles traveled is still lower than when I got my Driver's license.

Yet Murders and Fatalities are skyrocketing under all these new Guns.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads ... n-the-u-s/

casinterest wrote:

TriJets wrote:

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casinterest wrote:

4 deaths for 1 good guy with a gun. Plus multiple people with massive injuries. More cars don't = more deaths when safety protocols, training, licenseing, registration and legal enforcement of use are engaged

Yet traffic deaths per 100k people in the US are at their highest levels since 2007, despite everything that you listed. Unfortunately sometimes you can’t just legislate your way out of tragedy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_v ... S._by_year

Yet the Fatalities for Vehicle Miles traveled is still lower than when I got my Driver's license.

Yet Murders and Fatalities are skyrocketing under all these new Guns.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads ... n-the-u-s/

And yet according to that link, gun deaths per capita remain well below where they were in the 1970s, despite more guns being on the street.

TriJets wrote:

MrHMSH wrote:

TriJets wrote:

Glad the police were able to kill the gunman before he caused even more harm.

Shame it wasn’t earlier, mind.

Agreed. As I’ve stated a million times on here, when seconds count the police are minutes away. Of course sometimes it only takes literal seconds to inflict carnage.

Indeed, tragedy is always so close, except for those many thousands who are dead, dying and will die, for whom tragedy has already, is already and will be striking. Still, their sacrifice is necessary. Their deaths are sad, but in the grand scheme of things, merely regrettable, and a necessary price to pay.

TriJets wrote:

casinterest wrote:

More Guns = More Deaths.

Tragic all the way around with elderly people targeted at random. Seems like this young man wanted to hurt a lot of people.
Glad the officers got him, but still sad that it happened.

More cars=more deaths. More people=more deaths. Thankfully, a good guy with a gun was able to put down this shooter before he could harm anyone else.

More squirrels=more 'look over there, something irrelevant to ensure I don't have to actually defend my point.

You don't think that stopping a shooter after they've shot people is a little 'closing the door after the horse has bolted' territory?

TriJets wrote:

casinterest wrote:

TriJets wrote:

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Yet traffic deaths per 100k people in the US are at their highest levels since 2007, despite everything that you listed. Unfortunately sometimes you can’t just legislate your way out of tragedy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_v ... S._by_year

Yet the Fatalities for Vehicle Miles traveled is still lower than when I got my Driver's license.

Yet Murders and Fatalities are skyrocketing under all these new Guns.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads ... n-the-u-s/

And yet according to that link, gun deaths per capita remain well below where they were in the 1970s, despite more guns being on the street.

But check out those active shooter incidents skyrocketing . Angry people with easy kill weapons.

TriJets wrote:

casinterest wrote:

TriJets wrote:

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Yet traffic deaths per 100k people in the US are at their highest levels since 2007, despite everything that you listed. Unfortunately sometimes you can’t just legislate your way out of tragedy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_v ... S._by_year

Yet the Fatalities for Vehicle Miles traveled is still lower than when I got my Driver's license.

Yet Murders and Fatalities are skyrocketing under all these new Guns.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads ... n-the-u-s/

And yet according to that link, gun deaths per capita remain well below where they were in the 1970s, despite more guns being on the street.

Source?

In the last 50 years, 20% of the 164 cases of mass shootings have occurred in the last five years. More than half of the shootings have occurred since 2000 and 33% since 2010. The deadliest years yet were 2017 and 2018.

And this article is from 2019

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2 ... d-increase

casinterest wrote:

TriJets wrote:

casinterest wrote:

Yet the Fatalities for Vehicle Miles traveled is still lower than when I got my Driver's license.

Yet Murders and Fatalities are skyrocketing under all these new Guns.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads ... n-the-u-s/

And yet according to that link, gun deaths per capita remain well below where they were in the 1970s, despite more guns being on the street.

But check out those active shooter incidents skyrocketing . Angry people with easy kill weapons.

That much is true, unfortunately.

santi319 wrote:

TriJets wrote:

casinterest wrote:

Yet the Fatalities for Vehicle Miles traveled is still lower than when I got my Driver's license.

Yet Murders and Fatalities are skyrocketing under all these new Guns.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads ... n-the-u-s/

And yet according to that link, gun deaths per capita remain well below where they were in the 1970s, despite more guns being on the street.

Source?

In the last 50 years, 20% of the 164 cases of mass shootings have occurred in the last five years. More than half of the shootings have occurred since 2000 and 33% since 2010. The deadliest years yet were 2017 and 2018.

And this article is from 2019

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2 ... d-increase

The source is in cas’s link that I quoted. That link describes gun deaths as a whole, while you are focused solely on active assailant incidents.

TriJets wrote:

casinterest wrote:

More Guns = More Deaths.

Tragic all the way around with elderly people targeted at random. Seems like this young man wanted to hurt a lot of people.
Glad the officers got him, but still sad that it happened.

More cars=more deaths. More people=more deaths.

You just can't stop yourself playing those false equivalence cards, can you?

santi319 wrote:

TriJets wrote:

casinterest wrote:

Yet the Fatalities for Vehicle Miles traveled is still lower than when I got my Driver's license.

Yet Murders and Fatalities are skyrocketing under all these new Guns.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads ... n-the-u-s/

And yet according to that link, gun deaths per capita remain well below where they were in the 1970s, despite more guns being on the street.

Source?

In the last 50 years, 20% of the 164 cases of mass shootings have occurred in the last five years. More than half of the shootings have occurred since 2000 and 33% since 2010. The deadliest years yet were 2017 and 2018.

And this article is from 2019

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2 ... d-increase

He;s talking about overall shootings. Just like multiple death car crashes get the news coverage, the vast majority of road deaths are in ones and twos, just like most shootings.

TriJets wrote:

MrHMSH wrote:

TriJets wrote:

Glad the police were able to kill the gunman before he caused even more harm.

Shame it wasn’t earlier, mind.

Agreed. As I’ve stated a million times on here, when seconds count the police are minutes away. Of course sometimes it only takes literal seconds to inflict carnage.

Ah yes ! When seconds count. Can you quote me two or three examples when a random shooter is taken out by a 'good guy with a gun' prior to the arrival of law enforcement ? I suppose it is Woke to suggest it might be a 'good girl with a gun'?

TriJets wrote:

Yet traffic deaths per 100k people in the US are at their highest levels since 2007, despite everything that you listed. Unfortunately sometimes you can’t just legislate your way out of tragedy.

The same old tired false equivalency.

Cars are deadly. They are also an essential part of society. Life as we know it would stop without vehicles. That's why, despite the dangers, they are a necessary evil. That's also why they are heavily regulated, registered, require training to use, insurance, maintenance, etc.

Guns have no reason to exist other than to injure and kill people. They serve no purpose outside of law enforcement and the military. Society can very much exist without them. And yet they are less regulated than cars are...


At least you're making a good case for regulation.