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Airport Abbreviations

Sun Feb 09, 2003 11:13 pm

People have been complaining about airport abbreviations, most recently here:
https://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1022150/

I think I've found a solution to this problem. From now on, airport abbreviations like LHR or ARN (three letter codes written in capital letters) will turn your mouse pointer into a question mark if you move it over the text. Keep it still there for a second and the full name of the airport including country will be shown. Try it out and let me know if it works ok. Note that this will only work for new posts and that the functionality might be limited to later versions of Internet Explorer. Furthermore, only airports listed in on our upload page are included so HVN and other smaller airports aren't included (for now).

Thanks,
Johan
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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Sun Feb 09, 2003 11:48 pm

Wow, that really is a cool idea and it works fine. I remember when I first joined airliners.net I got confused with all the 3 letter codes. However in time u build up a knowledge of them. Cheers Johan, certainly gonna be a help for many people on the forums, especially for all those Canadian Airports!
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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Sun Feb 09, 2003 11:57 pm

man, that is a great idea. I used to be a baggage handler and I'd say I know a vast majority of airport codes(esp. in the USA) but there have been times even I've scratched my head trying to figure out a code someone has used. Usually its turns out to be some code from the Middle East or Asia. I can only imagine how some "newbies" must feel, as if we are talking a foreign language or something. Anyhow, thanks for the new feature.
 
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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Mon Feb 10, 2003 12:15 am

Excellent idea, Johan L., great solution, but what about the three-letter, all-capital, codes used for some airlines??

Johan (Ljungdahl)


 
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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Mon Feb 10, 2003 12:27 am

Great idea, but it has some problems, it does not only give that for uppercase codes, as BLE, but also for lowercase, and since atleast Mozilla 1.1 gives these parts of the text the look of a link, it can look weird sometimes  Big grin
I'll send you a screenshot so that you can se for yourself...
 
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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Mon Feb 10, 2003 12:43 am

Testing post: TRY KATL KORD ORD MKE ATW MROC ROC


 
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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Mon Feb 10, 2003 12:47 am

I test post but KATL isn't working and KORD is fine. ROC is not correct! Why? ROC is Rochester, NY. Maybe Johan is still working add more or sometimes it takes time to add more. I don't know.. TRY is an airline code Tristar Airlines is not working yet.

Big777jet



[Edited 2003-02-09 16:49:14]
 
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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Mon Feb 10, 2003 12:53 am

Great feature! Big thumbs up

Testing... EMA ... hehe

Josh

[Edited 2003-02-09 16:54:24]
 
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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Mon Feb 10, 2003 1:16 am

Excellent feature. Very useful.
Thanks Johan.
APP.
 
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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Mon Feb 10, 2003 2:03 am

I don't want to say "I told you so" but:


...I think the ideal situation would be not to have a glossary, but instead enable users to "hover" their mouse pointer over an acronym in the regular forum, and have the definition or expression pop up in a box

-- posted by yours truly in the "Glossary" thread 31 Jan 2003 Big grin Big grin Big grin
 
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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Mon Feb 10, 2003 4:53 am

Testing WAW .

hehehehehehehe

Seriously, this is a great idea. One can learn a lot from this, and all it takes is simply pointing...no clicking!

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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Mon Feb 10, 2003 5:54 am

BBJ is a problem since this is the abbreviation for Bitburg but most of the time this is used in a thread, it's not 4 the airport.


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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Mon Feb 10, 2003 6:05 am

Another test: LHR LHR

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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Mon Feb 10, 2003 6:06 am

Alright, after working on the bugs I think the function should work as intended now. Four letter airport codes does not work and should not work.

Thanks,
Johan
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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Mon Feb 10, 2003 6:08 am

It works for LHR / EGLL), UK - England">LHR if you use upper case letters, but if you use "Caps lock" for LHR / EGLL), UK - England">LHR, it fails.


Never mind, seems to work now...

[Edited 2003-02-09 22:09:36]
 
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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Mon Feb 10, 2003 7:26 am

How come when I sign my name LGW no Q mark appears but if I put an LGW in the body of the text a Q mark comes up over my user name?!

Cheers Johan - grand tool you added there!

LGW

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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Mon Feb 10, 2003 7:27 am

Actually it didn't work. Now it might work in most situations. Also, airline abbreviations should work now. So things like F9 and G4, PD, AA etc should work. This means things like UK looks a bit odd but that's how it is.

Thanks,
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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Mon Feb 10, 2003 8:05 am

Airlines too now....even better!!!!
APP.

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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Mon Feb 10, 2003 8:45 am

It sure is a great thing, but there are some problems with the abbreviation of British Midland; please have a look at ConcordeBoy's post in this thread:

https://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1022469/ (reply 8)

and mine in this one:

https://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1022179/ (reply 6)

Anyway, I'll try again: BMI

aloges

[Edited 2003-02-10 00:47:35]
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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Mon Feb 10, 2003 9:18 am

Fixed that. However, please note that only 2 letter airline codes and 3 letter airport codes work.

So, BMI will give the airport abbreviation, not the airline.

Thanks,
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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Mon Feb 10, 2003 10:25 am

Johan,

G4 is not Air Guizhou. It's an Allegiant Air code G4. ROC is still incorrect. It should be Rochester, NY.

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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Mon Feb 10, 2003 11:44 am

Does anyone else notice that this is also starting to underline "codes" which are not intended to be codes in their context like the state of NY -- the country US -- and BE CAREFUL! where NY=New York, US=United States and "BE" is part of a warning sentence?

An unintended and fairly annoying side effect.

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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Mon Feb 10, 2003 5:11 pm

I'm sorry but...

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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Mon Feb 10, 2003 6:18 pm

Have you not read the above Singapore_Air? I quote Johan:

please note that only 2 letter airline codes and 3 letter airport codes work.
Four letter airport codes does not work and should not work.


Johan, thanks for this nifty little feature. TEST SIN SQ

9V-SVA

[Edited 2003-02-10 10:50:14]
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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Mon Feb 10, 2003 6:39 pm

Cool Idea!

Would like to try it out as well:

ZRH TIP LPQ FNJ REP

LX SR QV JS VJ
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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Mon Feb 10, 2003 7:17 pm

There is going to be a problem over time with this system fearless leader.

Although Airport codes aren't likely to change over time. Airline codes to change over time. Not really a problem with the majors, but a lot older two letter codes for airlines that have gone under or not paid their dues to ICAO will lose their codes and those codes will be reassigned to other carriers.

I used to work for a carrier that had an ICAO code for it's operations, then because of a change in personel missed paying the bill and then had to reapply for a new one when they realized their error. They previous two letter code have been reissued to another airlines so they had to get a new one.
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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Mon Feb 10, 2003 10:02 pm

I note that USA yields an alleged airport in Alabama. Guess this is the result of an automated search glitch? Oh well, still and all, a fun feature.
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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Tue Feb 11, 2003 12:12 am

But there should be the possibility to disable often used abbreviations, like for example EU or USA. I think that's just a few who mix up with the airport or airliner codes.

[Edited 2003-02-10 16:13:21]
 
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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Tue Feb 11, 2003 4:38 am

Have you not read above 9V-SVA? I quote myself:

SIN - Enjoy It!

Also, should LX be changed to SWISS International?
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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Tue Feb 11, 2003 8:16 am

Looks Good!!!! Thanks
This is just for my jollies
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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Tue Feb 11, 2003 12:57 pm

Excellent idea works fantastically
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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Tue Feb 11, 2003 12:58 pm

Just testing a couple of airline codes here:

H8
XR
YT
S7
R3
MV
 
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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Tue Feb 11, 2003 3:38 pm

Weird.......

Testing:

DSM
CID
MLI
MKC
MCI
OMA
IOW
IKV
ALO
DBQ

Pretty cool feature, although I would propose that only the somewhat major codes be included. Most who are refering to some of the others have the common courtesy and sense to elaborate on the ones they figure most people won't know.

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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Tue Feb 11, 2003 8:01 pm

Hey 9V-SVA, have you tried to point with the mouse your own sign?!?!
If you point SVA it gives: Singapore Airlines 777!!!!
if you point 9V it gives AMC Aviation (don't know if it's right, should check AMC code!)... I'm a bit confused  Confused

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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Tue Feb 11, 2003 8:41 pm

Test, ICN / RKSI), South Korea">ICN PUS / RKPK), South Korea">PUS SEL GMP / RKSS), South Korea">GMP
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Great feature!

[Edited 2003-02-11 12:47:45]
Flown: 2L 7C 9E 9L AA AB AC AF AY AZ BA BR BX B6 CA CO CP CX DL EK EY JL KE KL LA LH LX MQ NW OZ PD RW SQ TG TP TR TS US WG WN WS XE XJ
 
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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Wed Feb 12, 2003 2:33 am

Here's your bmi:

BD

 Big thumbs up

Josh

[Edited 2003-02-11 18:34:25]
 
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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Wed Feb 12, 2003 2:36 am

Just want to test another...

LOL...
 
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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Wed Feb 12, 2003 10:49 am

That is awesome! I was in the dark on the issue with all thos YYC and SPCs( I don't know if those are real...)

thanks
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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Wed Feb 12, 2003 11:44 am

According to Mls515's post ALO city code is Waterloo, Iowa it says in Louis Trichardt, South Africa. Huh? What's went wrong with program? It comes first country before United States codes why would do that? Something bugs or inaccurate code mixing it up USA and other countries. Interesting! It would be most difficult to fix the program. DBQ and MLI aren't showing working either!


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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Wed Feb 12, 2003 3:55 pm

Testing


YHM
YYZ
YUL
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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Thu Feb 13, 2003 12:39 am

OK, it recognises IATA codes but not ICAO.

I wonder how much extra bandwidth this takes, especially for the poor users on modem connections.
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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Thu Feb 13, 2003 1:46 am

Bloody brilliant idea!!!

Cheers,
Dean
 
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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Thu Feb 13, 2003 2:02 am

Great feature Johan, good work!

Testing:

MAN
BAW
LCA
UAL
NWA
KLM
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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Thu Feb 13, 2003 4:16 am

Is it just me, or does this not work momentarily?

But then, I still can´t use the edit function either... (Hey, this is mobbing  Wink/being sarcastic  Big grin )

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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Thu Feb 13, 2003 10:39 am

GPT SAT DFW ATL ACT
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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Thu Feb 13, 2003 10:40 am

Thanks Johan for this. I SAT down at my Computer to find that you HAD improved this website more. Keep up the good work.
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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Thu Feb 13, 2003 12:21 pm

Test (yeah i know teher are a bunch of tests)

PIT
AGC
US
UA
PHL
ERI
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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Thu Feb 13, 2003 12:22 pm

Well looks like i found a prob, AGC is Allegheny County Airport, Pennslyvania (AGC/KAGC). well looks there are some bugs. But a great job none the less on the work involved to get this started. Thanks Mr. Lundgren.

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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Thu Feb 13, 2003 4:02 pm

"Well looks like i found a prob, AGC is Allegheny County Airport, Pennslyvania (AGC/KAGC). well looks there are some bugs. But a great job none the less on the work involved to get this started. Thanks Mr. Lundgren."

That is true, however it looks like it's also Grand Central in Johannesburg. Just because it's not the US airport doesn't mean it's a mistake.

Kris,
YYC

AC
 
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RE: Airport Abbreviations

Fri Feb 14, 2003 1:56 am

That is true, however it looks like it's also Grand Central in Johannesburg. Just because it's not the US airport doesn't mean it's a mistake.

It rather looks like that if an IATA code isn't in the database but is a part of an ICAO code that is in the database then the airport name shown is the one for which the ICAO code stands.

Nonetheless, it's a great feature.

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