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aa61hvy
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Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 9:19 am

Here is a petition,
Please bring back The Non-Aviation Forum to non-first class members.

AA61hvy
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aloges
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 9:21 am

I sign this. Either find a solution or don't do anything about it.

[Edited 2003-05-21 02:22:01]
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srbmod
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 9:23 am

I sign on to this petition as well.
 
GD727
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 9:34 am

You can sign me up. Punish me for not having a credit card? I think not! Pissed

-GD727

Mmmm forbidden donut.
 
kolobokman
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 9:38 am

I'll sign it in the reply #50

making it symbolic......eh, the good times
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flight152
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 9:49 am

I'll Sign.

Flight152
 
NoUFO
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 9:49 am

Right. Ad me to your list.
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airplanetire
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 10:02 am

Signed,
Airplanetire
 
portcolumbus
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 10:11 am

I'll sign. Those that don't want it shouldn't go to it. Simple as that.
 
flyingbronco05
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 10:12 am

Bring it back. For the people who dont like the Non av forum:


STAY OUT OF IT Big grin
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flyboy36y
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 10:30 am

I sign.

If you don't like non-av.... go away, but don't ruin it for those who do.
 
dragogoalie
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Re:

Wed May 21, 2003 10:31 am

*busts out the white out and erases everyone elses name*. Hmmm...looks like nobody signed. Seriously guys, what productive discussions have occured in the non-av forum as of late?

--dragogoalie-#88--
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An-225
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 10:36 am

I am for it. Bring it back! I have been a contributor to this website for over 2 years, and I have 150 pictures in the database. I want to visit Non-av forum, albeit I don't post frequently. Bring it back!

Alex.
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UAL747
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 10:49 am

Signed UAL747, member since 1999

UAL747
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AMERICAN757
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 11:18 am

do it, otherwise there will be no more mercedes posts, and without them the non av forum will go down the drain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
 
cba
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 11:29 am

Signed

If it doesn't come back, don't expect to hear from me again
 
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 11:29 am

BRING IT BACK!

Goodbye.
✈︎
 
Guest

RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 11:46 am

Signed with qualification;

either take it or leave, just don't restrict it to those who pay... I know the purpose isn't to punish or force us into buying membership, but it is still frustrating.
 
Beefmoney
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 11:51 am

How am I supposed to get girl help now?

I SIGN!!!

Bring it back!
 
vafi88
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 12:14 pm

I have been on this site for Almost 3 years, maybe a bit over that with about 1150 posts underhand, and most of them good. I have been banned recently for my lashing out (I was having a bad day as it is). Other then that my deleted posts were mostly those that might have been posted before.

I am a teenager and don't have money to spend, how can people think just because you have money, you will post something better.

Big mistake Johan, I think you've let down many fans and followers.
I'd like to elect a president that has a Higher IQ than a retarted ant.
 
b757300
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 12:15 pm

It should be open to everyone or closed to all as the poll indicated.

Lets See...

"Get rid of the Non-Aviation Forum?"
"Yes"
"No"

I don't see the choice of "Make it for paying members only".

Am I blind? I don't think so. Last eye exam was 20/20.
"There is no victory at bargain basement prices."
 
Turtle
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 12:16 pm

My signature!!
I'd hate to post my nest topic about "my last time I got layed" on the "Tech Ops" furom  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
B747forlife
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 12:18 pm

I sign this, and my explaination is in the other topic with the flames and stuff going down on it.

-Nick
 
Eric505
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 12:18 pm

I'm in - please bring it back

Member since 1999.
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Westjet_737
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 12:25 pm

I sign as well, I am 15, how can I pay for FC?

Member Since November 3rd, 1999
 
vafi88
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 12:34 pm

Happy birthday to me!!! I get a wonderful present this year from johan!

Johan: happy birthday vafi!, here's a load of crap in your face and you can't use the Non-avi anymore!!!

Vafi88: happy birthday to me...(sound dying out)

BTW- I Non-doubtably sign this!

VAFI88 for NON-AVI!!!
I'd like to elect a president that has a Higher IQ than a retarted ant.
 
captaingomes
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 12:39 pm

Please bring back the non-aviation forum.

Signed,

Captaingomes.

p.s. Dragogoalie, daily there were many quality threads, and I admit, some poor quality threads. Same could be said for all other discussion forums. If you don't like them, don't go there.
"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
 
us330
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 12:44 pm

I sign, even though I know it is useless because we don't have any money to offer.
 
captaingomes
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 12:48 pm

Us330, we have money to offer ... indirectly. If enough people leave, and Johan has to charge less for ads in order to keep companies advertising, then we will be hurting the bottom line of the website in the long-run. I would hazzard a guess that the site makes more from ads than it does from first class members. I could be wrong though, but wouldn't be surprised if it could easily support itself with ads, and optional first-class memberships.
"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
 
pgh234
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 12:59 pm

My signature here,

pgh234  Sad
 
Turtle
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 1:01 pm

Please bring it back!! I love Indianguy's comedy!!
 
corocks
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 1:23 pm

Signed by CoRocks (Mj)
 
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 1:37 pm

I'll sign, many of the best members are not first class members and add much to the non av forum

Yours,
the melancholy IHadAPheo
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US Air/TWA Fan
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 2:11 pm

I want it back too. Prove me wrong that this site isn't going entirely pay. Pleeeezzze prove me wrong!
 
strickerje
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 2:18 pm

Well, I'd love to see the non aviation forum return to all users. I'm generally not that vocal about most issues, but this is rather important to me. Even if "coach" members could only view and not post, that would be better than what we have now.

Signed,
Jeffrey S.
 
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 5:08 pm

I sign this petition too. Hopefully the admins comes to their senses.

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OO-AOG
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 6:07 pm

I sign, otherwise loosing interest in this website.
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707CMF
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 6:21 pm

I sign it as well.

The non-av forum had the priceless quality to shield the other forums from off-topic threads, and it worked perfectly well. I know of other forums/newgroups.mailing lists completely polluted by Off Topic, and I've always been amazed by how the specialised forums on A.net were free of those.
I can predict an increased load of work for the forums moderators who will now have to deal with a constantly increasing number of OT threads.

signed,

Antoine aka 707cmd, A.net photographer
 
rabenschlag
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 7:00 pm

signed,







r.
 
MxCtrlr
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 7:07 pm

I'm a First Class member and I'll sign the petition! I feel as though Johan has "stolen" my money (I paid for FC on 10-May). To my mind, he has changed the "product" after he made the sale and that is ethically wrong and borders on fraud!  Pissed

What's next Johan? Dropping the aviation pictures because they "take up too much of the moderators' time and the site's bandwidth"?

MxCtrlr  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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virgin744
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 7:24 pm

Consider me signed up too!

Virgin744
 
mas a330
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 7:31 pm

signed.

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Dasa
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 7:32 pm

Sign me up. Although I don't miss the Non-Av forum in particular as I have been posting less and less of late, it would be nice to have it back.
 
f.pier
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 7:42 pm

I sign




I'm sad
 
NZ767
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 7:45 pm

Me too........Signed.........  Insane
 
Banco
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 7:58 pm

I suppose I'm in too, with the proviso that if people like me are those that Johan is trying to get rid of, then fair enough.
She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
 
paulc
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 8:48 pm

Banco,

I agree with you on this thread and on the other one - out of my 800+ posts, not one was deleted from any forum and I felt I behaved within the rules of the forum. I am not a first class member and will certainly not become one just to regain non-av access.

I voted to rid the site of the forum as it was becoming a pointless area with banal subjects being discussed. It did not help that certain people abused the forum to some extent (crew and non crew) and that persistant offenders were not banned unless they did something very wrong.

When well established contributors decided to go elsewhere then there is something wrong with the site - perhaps as people are still uploading pictures and having to be first class members to do so, site admin is not worried what people think, but is the photographers and forum users that have made this site what it is and if they vote with their 'feet' by going elsewhere then the site will suffer.

Making non-av first class only is a poor compromise - it will elimate those non first class member who do abide by forum rules, eliminates those without credit cards to pay for it and will not stop some of the rubbish that is posted there. The poll was to get rid of it entirely not this compromise. The other option was to keep it open but with a hard clampdown on those people who keep breaking the rules - 1 warning then a ban should sort out those.




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Alpha 1
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 8:54 pm

Put my name down as well.
 
Marco
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 8:54 pm

I sign as well...

What a pathetic move.
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teva
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RE: Petition: Bring Back Non-Av For Us!

Wed May 21, 2003 8:55 pm

I sign for it immediately.
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