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Thu Jan 01, 2004 4:49 pm

Look people.. Im tired of anti-US, anti-french, anti- everyone else jargon on here. I thought this website was about aviation. For the moron out there that will have this post deleted..........thanks for being political. Let us focus on the topic at hand......AVIATION!!!!!!!!! Quit bitching, whining, and groaning because your politician screwed you!!!!!
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Thu Jan 01, 2004 5:56 pm

The problem is that we are in the real world, and in the real world there is a real connection between politics and aviation.

1. Unfortunately, there are political implications when an airline purchases a large amount of airliners - why? Airliners are expensive and the production of one involves lots of jobs. Governments will get involved when lots of money and jobs are at issue, thus, when a US carrier buys Airbus or a Japanese carrier buys Boeing, politics will come up and a discussion continues. Also, there have been some real cases of overstepping - the US insisted that El Al buy Boeing and not Airbus at one time, and Airbus has also done pretty dirty things as well, for example, the infamous AC A320 order - how many millions went under the table?

2. Since 9/11, when airliners were used as weapons against the USA, commercial aviaiton has a new political aspect. This week, we are seeing foreign airlines having issues when arriving in the US (the BA incident at IAD yesterday for example), terror alerts affect airlines, and the US commerical industry is still suffering from the after-effects of 9/11 - a political event - and has resulted in aid packages and bankruptices, all of which have political implications.

3. Goverments, thus politics, control air service agreements between nations......we have had a zillion discussions about the Bermuda 2 agreement that controls [screws up?] air service between the US and UK and that discussion clearly belongs here.

Thus, its difficult to keep things seperate, and occassionaly, even here at, we will get involved in political long as the remarks are respectful and on-topic, its cool with me.
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Thu Jan 01, 2004 6:09 pm

Hey DutchJet....

I agree with everything you wrote, Im just tired of all the arrogance and bashing of everyone. This is an aviation forum. Im sorry to ask, but Can't we all just get along? lol Good points though Dutch.
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Thu Jan 01, 2004 6:49 pm

"Getting along" is boring. People post on this forum to state their opinions and ask for other people's opinions. When opinions differ, arguments simetimes arise - that's life. As long as people behave themselves, act politely and don't allow the debate to descend into a general slanging match, then debate is good.

As for "politics" - politics is part of life and there are very few subjects, aviation related or not, that do not have poltical aspects to them.

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