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Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 2:43 pm
by SQ773
I know that whenever something is new, its difficult to get used to. But guys, this new page sucks.
- the layout is TOO big
- Not possible to see many post at a glance in the forum index
- Not intuitive

I loved to see in one page many things at the same time , I hate to scroll page down to see different features...

Ok, the old page was very old ...but if you are doing something and you don't improve the old one, then do nothing and let the things the way they were.

What a mess and what a dissapointment

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 2:53 pm
by psal1011
Reason for rejection:

BADWEBDESIGN

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 2:53 pm
by Keefyjet
How about a referendum?
Newairliners or Classicairliners?
There again how about a new title, after all this site's not just about airliners is it?
:?

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 2:55 pm
by Moose135
airkas1 wrote:
...

I assume you work here, and aren't just a random poster tossing out comments, however since your posts and profile page have no indication of your staff status, it may be an incorrect assumption on my part. ;)

You really need to add back staff titles (Admin, Moderator, Support, etc.) to forum posts and profiles so people know who they are interacting with.


Kickert wrote:
Am I the only one that appreciates that this thread has gone to 446 replies without having to be found in "Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion PART 3"?

That's about the only thing I like about the new format at this point.

And while I'm thinking of it - how about a way to set your local time zone in the board preferences? Just about every other forum allows that, so you don't have to convert from UCT in your head to figure out when posts were made.

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 3:03 pm
by Ytraveller
Moose135 wrote:
And while I'm thinking of it - how about a way to set your local time zone in the board preferences? Just about every other forum allows that, so you don't have to convert from UCT in your head to figure out when posts were made.

I went to Settings > Forum > Board Preferences > My timezone & My date format.

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 3:03 pm
by SQ773
I forgot to add that the best search photo engine has been destroyed !

Man, what were you thinking about? This was probably the best feature of A.net, the photo search engine....
Now its gone, destroyed...

I still can believe it... I can understand an upgrade, but this is not an upgrade, this is destroying what worked perfectly with something worse.

Hope you did not pay for this a penny

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 3:05 pm
by al2637
Hi,

There is a bug in font sizing. You can see it on page 4 of the Irish aviation thread.

All posts after a certain point are nested under a font -4 tag.

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 3:07 pm
by Kiwiflyer
Hi. I've been enjoying Airliners almost daily for many years, looking forward to checking the latest top pictures, and the forums of interest with the latest news in the aviation arena, which I love... even if mostly from a back seat. For the last two years I've pretty much only accessed the site via my iPhone and had little if any difficulty easily accessing the information of interest to me. The forums were great... at a glance I could see all the topics, including the hottest, and instantly go to any new posts within topics which I hadn't yet read. Equally I enjoyed being able to easily and quickly read prior posts when going back to refresh my memory. Posts were numbered so I could easily refer backwards and forwards. I also liked seeing what countries posters were from and I liked the fact the site had a feel to it that a whole cross-section of people with different knowledge levels, who share a love of aviation, were drawn to.

It appears that this new format loses many of those very features that made Airliners what it was to so many. From the sounds of it the desktop version is not great... and on mobile it's simply frustrating with endless pages and scrolling. On my phone the site feels anything but optimised. The mobile page also moves or floats about left to right so when scrolling with your thumb it awkwardly moves off to one side. Colour palettes, font sizes etc etc.. I could go on but I think others have made their concerns plain enough.

Of particular concern are the posts from users indicating that watermarks and copyright notices are missing, and names of users are showing. It would also appear users can't submit posts easily if additional posts have been added while typing. If this is indeed the case it's just dumb. Unless I'm mistaken there doesn't even appear to be page numbers at the top of each topic so you need to scroll the length of New Zealand just to advance. Crazy.

People are right to feel aggrieved, especially those who have found out today that membership/benefits have effectively been cancelled. I too have had to endure page after page of ads of girls wanting dates and I find this intrusive and inappropriate.

For the developers to release a live version when such flaws exist is bad enough, but to be so arrogant as to be so apparently unaware of what features are important to their users and to disregard that shows a complete lack of customer focus. Why on earth there wasn't a beta version that users could have contributed to I'll never know. Heavens, you would have had an army of willing testers who feel passionately about their daily Airliners fix. What it appears you have forgotten is the whole site is based around what users submit, and to then be so arrogant as to betray the trust people have in keeping information in confidence, or affording the best protections possible for copyright infringement is just lazy, and dangerous. If photographers don't have the confidence to submit their work anymore, then a large chunk of Airliners disappears... and no amount of advertising revenue will bring them back.

I am not against change. I am against change forced on me that I am then told is an improvement, when it clearly isn't. I am not stupid and I know spin when I hear it. Technology culture is showing there is an increasing tendency to deliver before being ready. You only need to look at the constant app updates and bug fixes about to see an alarming trend in exposing users to risk, or at the least, inconvenience. How many times do we see features restored because we're told 'we've listened to our users'. The shame being that users weren't listened to or considered in the first place. The ironic thing is this whole site is about airliners and the airline industry... probably one of the most unforgiving environments for people who get it wrong. It's inexcusable for people to be told we're working on getting copyright notices restored at some point. At that very moment this site should have been taken offline until a remedy found. Equally so if users' names were publicly accessible.

I know this is early days, but many in your very audience are professionals and you have acted anything but. So a touch of sadness today. As silly as it sounds Airliners is a small but important part of my life. I appreciate the opportunity to vent my concerns.

Regards,
Kiwiflyer
(Many thanks to IADCA for pointing out my own name was visible. Now changed.)

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 3:08 pm
by Moose135
Ytraveller wrote:
I went to Settings > Forum > Board Preferences > My timezone & My date format.


Thank you! I must have missed that when I looked.

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 3:10 pm
by Toni_
I was finishing a post about why I disliked the new website until my desktop suddenly died out on me. I guess the autosave draft function is a thing of the past too eh? Fantastic...

That immediately caused me to test the new draft save option. This one opens a new page where you first have to confirm the request with a click. It then shows a message that the draft got saved and what not. After that it presents you with a link of the thread that you have to click on in order to get back to the thread. If you want to continue writing you have to click on the reply button again to see the saved draft...

I remember reading a post with someone saying that airliners.net went eurowhite. I could post that quote here but that would mean I'd have to click through numerous pages and scroll up and down in order to find it. I don't have the time nor energy for that anymore.

In the old days I could sift through entire threads in no-time. That's all gone now. I'm forced to sit here and click and scroll through all this fancy looking stuff. It's all good and well if the thread only has a few posts. I'm trying to imagine the experience of reading a thread after a big event. I challenge someone to read through all the MH370 threads on this new website.

This isn't airliners.net going eurowhite. I honestly wish that would be the case. It would mean that all the great features that made airliners.net superb would still be here. This is like KLM going eurowhite, move its hub to AKL, and replace the entire fleet with brand new shiny MRJ's.

I'm sure a lot of people worked very hard on this, and I can only respect the effort, but I'm afraid they killed off that special feeling this website always had. I'm open for change, but this might be too much for me.

And RIP head-banging-wall smily. You will be missed. You were so great I even used you in other forums. You too, tomato-ducking one... You too...

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 3:19 pm
by autothrust
Could someone make a summary of all flaws and missing features?

This should be mailed to the mods and demanding a response how could they do such a thing, and denying the community a beta test ?

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 3:20 pm
by IADCA
Kiwiflyer wrote:
Hi. I've been enjoying Airliners almost daily for many years, looking forward to checking the latest top pictures, and the forums of interest with the latest news in the aviation arena, which I love... even if mostly from a back seat. For the last two years I've pretty much only accessed the site via my iPhone and had little if any difficulty easily accessing the information of interest to me. The forums were great... at a glance I could see all the topics, including the hottest, and instantly go to any new posts within topics which I hadn't yet read. Equally I enjoyed being able to easily and quickly read prior posts when going back to refresh my memory. Posts were numbered so I could easily refer backwards and forwards. I also liked seeing what countries posters were from and I liked the fact the site had a feel to it that a whole cross-section of people with different knowledge levels, who share a love of aviation, were drawn to.

It appears that this new format loses many of those very features that made Airliners what it was to so many. From the sounds of it the desktop version is not great... and on mobile it's simply frustrating with endless pages and scrolling. On my phone the site feels anything but optimised. The mobile page also moves or floats about left to right so when scrolling with your thumb it awkwardly moves off to one side. Colour palettes, font sizes etc etc.. I could go on but I think others have made their concerns plain enough.

Of particular concern are the posts from users indicating that watermarks and copyright notices are missing, and names of users are showing. The fact users are also complaining they can't submit posts easily if additional posts have been added while typing is just dumb. Unless I'm mistaken there doesn't even appear to be page numbers at the top of each topic so you need to scroll the length of New Zealand just to advance. Crazy.

People are right to feel aggrieved, especially those who have found out today that membership/benefits have effectively been cancelled. I too have had to endure page after page of ads of girls wanting dates and I find this intrusive and inappropriate.

For the developers to release a live version when such flaws exist is bad enough, but to be so arrogant as to be so apparently unaware of what features are important to their users and to disregard that shows a complete lack of customer focus. Why on earth there wasn't a beta version that users could have contributed to I'll never know. Heavens, you would have had an army of willing testers who feel passionately about their daily Airliners fix. What it appears you have forgotten is the whole site is based around what users submit, and to then be so arrogant as to betray the trust people have in keeping information in confidence, or affording the best protections possible for copyright infringement is just lazy, and dangerous. If photographers don't have the confidence to submit their work anymore, then a large chunk of Airliners disappears... and no amount of advertising revenue will bring them back.

I am not against change. I am against change forced on me that I am then told is an improvement, when it clearly isn't. I am not stupid and I know spin when I hear it. Technology culture is showing there is an increasing tendency to deliver before they are always ready. You only need to look at the constant app updates and bug fixes about to see an alarming trend in exposing users to risk, or at the least, inconvenience. How many times do we see features restored because we're told 'we've listened to our users'. The shame being that users weren't listened to or considered in the first place. The ironic thing is this whole site is about airliners and the airline industry... probably one of the most unforgiving environments for people who get it wrong. It's inexcusable for people to be told we're working on getting copyright notices restored at some point. At that very moment this site should have been taken offline until a remedy found. Equally so if users names were publicly accessible.

I know this is early days, but many in your very audience are professionals and you have acted anything but. So a touch of sadness today. As silly as it sounds Airliners is a small but important part of my life. I appreciate the opportunity to vent my concerns.

Regards,
Kiwiflyer


I'm glad to see others getting on this issue. Yours is exposed, by the way. That's absolutely inexcusable on the site's part.

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 3:27 pm
by reidar76
Is there any way to increase the font size? After the upgrade this site is next to unreadable on my Windows tablet. It is definitely the website with the smallest font size I have ever seen! It doesn't help much to zoom in since it is a responsive design. Maybe there is an error in detecting screen size? Anyone else that has this problem?

Compare the font size in these two screenshots. Googles font size is ideal for this tablet. To further increase readability I would also prefer black instead of grey text.

Image


Image

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 3:31 pm
by KosherCoder
I'm not a big contributor. I've uploaded maybe a few dozen shots over the years, and replied to the same number of forum posts, under a few different accounts. I have, however, come here at least twice a day every day for a decade.

No more.
I wish you well. Goodbye.

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 3:32 pm
by coronado
I do have a concern that the update seems to be using a lot more bandwidth. I wish it were not the case but for some of us our only ''high speed'' cough cough internet is via satellite service, which gives me a hard cap of 14GB per month for over $70usd unless I want to keep shelling out an extra $16usd for each additional 2GB allowance.

My interest has always been the Commercial Aviation Forum and occasionally the Tech Ops forum, with only very occasional viewing of the photos. Navigating the Commercial Av Forum and identifying topics of interest is now very time consuming. The beauty of the previous site is that I could quickly jump around 10 topics of interest in just a few minutes. I do expect that there will be improvements on the contrast of the fonts against the background. This has to be fixed. Very very difficult and painful to look at the screen.

There has to be a way to opt out of the russian girly ads. That is why I was paying my monthly $5 usd to get rid of all the ads. I don't need my wife asking what am I looking at!. She thinks it has been bad enough these last 17 years that I was reading about airplanes.

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 3:33 pm
by airkas1
autothrust wrote:
Could someone make a summary of all flaws and missing features?

We (crew) have kept a list with all the feedback that has been given by everyone.

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 3:35 pm
by linco22
Being polite, it's terrible in my opinion.

This site is all about viewing photos, and that experience is awful now. White background is terrible, the row of photos attached to the main photo is terrible.

All the details below is each photo in a list format is terrible. The comment box on the old style was important, I always read that box, now it's the very last line in that list. It's like looking through photobucket or something.

I knew when Demand Media took over anet it was the beginning of the end. I can see that end coming very soon!

Thanks for the fish,

Colin

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 3:41 pm
by a380787

like many new sites, this one is overly optimized for mobile/tablet at the expense of the desktop.

it's the "new norm" so I'll just suck it up and learn to adapt to it, but others have highlighted the areas of improvement that should be addressed quickly before attrition becomes uncontrollable

and yes, the color palette is a major eye sore ... and that's coming from someone who has nearly 20/20 eye-sight.

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 3:52 pm
by Cani
That revolutionary upgrade is like Lennox Lewis KO punch. After the one you can not notice anything and simply feel like being killed. IMHO the wrong way change. Everyone is a 'little' bit confused using the new engine. Nothing is in the right place, nothing is intuitive and simply is only new. And 'new' is the only advantage, the rest are disadvantages I must admit.

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:00 pm
by vfd
What happened to the vendors page?

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:09 pm
by BoeingGuy
This change is really awful. Quite honestly, I'm likely to look at and post in Airliners.net far less frequently now, if at all.

It's very unwieldy. You used to be able to look at all replies on one page. I can't even find where my previous reply was in this thread without paging through 10 pages.

Good change is good. This is horribly implemented change for inexplicable reasons that is far and away worse they the previous Airliners.net format.

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:13 pm
by Tugger
I can see they are making changes and tweaks. One tiny on that already happened is the "bookmark icon" for my web browser is back to the old airplane instead of the stylized tin Christmas tree/Delta widget.

Small hope other things will change too.

Currently waiting and watching and hoping. It is most definitely saving me a lot of time each day since I am not here as much now.

Tugg

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:16 pm
by derek0aa
Absolutely terrible on mobile. I haven't tried it out on my laptop yet but based on other forumer's comments it looks like that is terrible too. Endless scrolling, confusing page navigation, search function seems to be broken...

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Alas, this is what we have now and I'm sure we'll all get used to it within the next few weeks.

It would be nice to able to at least jump to the last unread post of a thread like we used to be able to do...or am I missing something?

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:17 pm
by N312RC
Wow, I've been visiting this website for just about half of my entire lifespan... Im 30 now, I don't post much anymore, but still love to read.

You guys really screwed this site up. It's generic now. It's hard to read. The forums are hard to read. Tons of white space. Bad color palette.

What were you thinking? Upgrade just for the sake of upgrading? If it ain't broke, why fix it? Just a stupid, boneheaded move.

I'll be visiting less and less, and hopefully none at all, as I look elsewhere to indulge my hobby.

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:20 pm
by Relayer
Hi,

I go to reply... get the log on page... then it drops me at the home page and forces me to use the browser history to get back to where I can submit my reply.

I haven't seen anyone make the following observation yet, and I may be wrong in saying this, but Demand Media is a public corporation and as such is focused on what is best for shareholders and upper management. The fact that this is a site for airline enthusiasts is a convenient lure for them to bombard you with ads and make tons of money. Period. Welcome to "google's world".

Relayer

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:20 pm
by AC853
I think this is a terrible upgrade. The old site was way more functional. You have to click on a picture to get all the details such as the registration. . The forum is clumsy and not easy to read. There is too much white on the screen. It looks way worse on my IPad. Signing in does not eliminate the adds and I do not appreciate a skull on my profile which when you try to change goes to a search screen. Was there really anything wrong with the old site? Why change something so drastically when the old site was so good. You used to be the best site on the internet but now I wonder.

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:22 pm
by Aircellist
… Right now, there are about half a dozen users on the site… :(

Much less friendly than it was.

Could a new engine be used to propel the classic layout? Like many, I miss the starred topics, the numbering, the references to the posters, the nice and easily readable contrast… I know the old program was sometimes hard to run, but this… The feeling of A.net is lost.

And, I repeat myself, but the loss of the best smilies on the net, argh… :cry:

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:25 pm
by chrisnh
Is there any way to 'pin' threads I'm involved with so that they are the first ones I see in the list?

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:30 pm
by ricox
Sorry,
where are photographer corner with statistic, upload queue status etc etc??

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:32 pm
by USAIRWAYS321
autothrust wrote:
Could someone make a summary of all flaws and missing features?

This should be mailed to the mods and demanding a response how could they do such a thing, and denying the community a beta test ?

Ha! You think anybody associated with this mess gives a damn what we think?

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:43 pm
by fortytwoeyes
I keep reading "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". Did anybody who said that ever try using the forum search in the old version? And that's just one example of things that were very definitely and unequivocally broken.

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:46 pm
by flipdewaf
airkas1 wrote:
autothrust wrote:
Could someone make a summary of all flaws and missing features?

We (crew) have kept a list with all the feedback that has been given by everyone.

Any chance this list can be posted somewhere (like a locked/pinned thread0 so we users can see what you have in your list and then we wont keep saying the same things over and over.

Funny, with the old layout checking would have been easy.

Fred

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:49 pm
by cougar15
OK, I now a bottom of this thread, I think it was reply 478 at the bottom of my page. are we not missing a ´check for new replies´ button at the very bottom of some sort? at present I return to the beginning of the thread for ´check for unread replies´, but that too takes me back about 25 odd Posts (page 7 of this thread) that I have already read all afternoon! why no ´refresh/check for new reply´ option at the bottom of the threads??? and the White really hurts with the light gray typeset, as many others have mentioned.... cheers

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:49 pm
by IADCA
airkas1 wrote:
autothrust wrote:
Could someone make a summary of all flaws and missing features?

We (crew) have kept a list with all the feedback that has been given by everyone.


Why don't you ask someone who was actually responsible for this mess to come on here and face the music? As it is, several of your "list" items are issues that never should have made it past the first couple runs of internal testing, let alone gone live.

I have some sympathy for the need to upgrade - there were indeed some problems with the old forum and database structure - but what you have is a decided step back along many lines. This is basically an off the shelf product into which you rammed legacy photo and profile data, with potentially serious repercussions for some of your users and apparently no thought to the possible problems of doing so. Other than chucking up some malware, that's about as bad as it gets.

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:51 pm
by Janek777
I keep reading the thread heading as "Airliners.net Site Downgrade Announcement & Discussion"

Seriously, this is the worst major website I've come across in a long time!

1st of all: Did A.NET ask permission or credit the photographers for using their photos as promotion (ex.seaplane photo on About page).

Now to criticize the site:
- No glyphicons or styling on the header bar with the menu
- What the heck is that favicon?
- No evident logo on site, should be clearly on top header (ex. 747 takeoff photo)
- Open source PHP? Lol, can't wait for you to get hacked
- Lack of copyright banners at bottom of photos and A.NET watermark (disrespect to photographers and basically allowing people to save/copy millions of images at the moment
- Lack of not being able to handle the above situation by shutting site down for maintenance
- Various database errors and bugs
- Terrible color choices and layout
- Mobile version on iPhone is too wide, I can scroll to the right and have everything disappear
- Photos are cut off, stretched, terribly laid out
- Statistics, numbers etc. are totally random and make no sense
- Images don't open in new tab
- What is this red line on the forums under the headings!?

It can go on...

One thing A.NET succeeded at was being able to make itself look so bad, that it's no longer the #1 site and hundreds of members are ditching it. The least you could do at this point is to offer the "classic site" view so people can go back to viewing the site like they used to.

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:04 pm
by den777200
Do not like the new site at all. Seems much too cumbersome vs. the old site.

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:09 pm
by adools
Unfortunately, I see no evidence of "improved" only "new"

I have been a reader of this site for some time, I post rarely.

It is hard to read and navigate and actual features like seeing the top 5 photos on the home page and direct one click access to the civ av forum from the home page are gone.

Perhaps just go back to the way it was a week ago (and for years before) and say it never happened? That would be my vote.

I see this a lot on web pages, design changes for no reason, no added functionality, just things in a different place and a worse look.

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:12 pm
by foppishbum
I can't read through everything that's posted but I just can't stand having 3 ads going on for each page. One to left, one to right, and another one on top that would float down when I scroll downwards then disappear after a few seconds. The ads are very distracting. :(

IMHO Rejected

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:21 pm
by ricox
Is normal that a changement generate confusion but I coldn't find Upload queue statistic and Photographer statistic and the quick search windows in main page .. and the white as bkg colour is awful ...
Please let the chance to choose the old interface....
Thank's a lot

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:26 pm
by adrianu
Congratulations for your work!!, good luck! . Where can find some kind of tracking of my photos upload? To know how many days need to be waiting to receive important notice about my contribution photo. Regards.

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:30 pm
by AirPacific747
It's a very big downgrade. I feel like we've all been robbed for the website we know and love. Why not make change more subtle and see what works and what doesn't work instead of completely redesigning the website?

Also, I'm concerned that since it's now free to join, more low quality posts will appear and the standard of the whole website will plummet. The relatively small fee there was before was sufficient to keep out the majority of the less serious posters.

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:33 pm
by Aloha717200
Sigh. I'm not sure if this will fall on deaf ears. I imagine so.

I'd like to give the site some credit for trying to fix the issues people noted, but by replacing the entire site and doing away with really any distinguishing marks that separate this site from any other website, the designers of this new page have actually damaged airliners.net's value. An attempt to please the community with fixes to make the site more functional could have been done without erasing the entire branding concept of the site and whitewashing it into a generic page that could be mistaken for any other website easily.

I assume that there's no way to revert to the previous site and if there is, I doubt that after making such a drastic change anyone in the leadership of the site would wish to waste all that spent money and effort to roll it back...but a change that fixes the users issues could have been done without taking the very identity of airliners.net and tossing it out as obsolete. I think this move may prove to be, at the very least, very damaging to the forum community, and therefore the loyal users of a.net who were willing to pay money out of pocket to support a site they felt loyalty towards, and whom may not feel that loyalty after such a scrapping of the site they loved.


I've been here since I was 14. I'm now 31, and throughout all the changes this site made it always stayed true to its roots, unique identity, and community. This is a very large step backwards. I really hope you guys give some consideration to fixing this branding and design blunder, before long term decline of site metrics begins to take hold.

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:36 pm
by Certosino
A big work... but too many enlargements and photo scrolling. Sorry, I don't like it

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:41 pm
by PanAm_DC10
jakbar wrote:
I don't know if this problem is more widespread throughout my photos or in other peoples photos, but in looking at my recent photos in the new Photo Corner, two of my most recent photos do not show up correctly.

Photo ID 2707332 shows up as a dog with an Airliners.net watermark. It is supposed to be an AA MD-82 at PHX. What. The. Heck?

https://www.airliners.net/photo/american-airlines/mcdonnell-douglas-md-82-%28dc-9-82%29/2707332

Photo ID 2707331 shows up as a picture of an Air Canada 777 that I did not take. It is supposed to be a Southwest 737 at PHX.

https://www.airliners.net/photo/southwest-airlines/boeing-737-7h4/2707331

Can a moderator please respond if this is an isolated issue that requires something on my part, or if this is a more widespread issue that will be corrected by the site administrators?


Hi this is an isolated incident and doesn't require anything on your part as the developers are investigating the issue, sorry for the inconvenience and I will post to let you know when they've resolved it.

Thanks and regards

Paul

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:44 pm
by ghost77
This change is TERRIBLE!!!

It was so easy before....

You fixed what it wasn't broken!!!

You should have redone the site as it was, but newer but everything on it's same place!!!

TERRIBLE

My 2 cents

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:56 pm
by N202PA
I'll keep it brief, but I really agree that this new layout is a serious downgrade from the original site. The text is too small, there is too much white space and it is generally very hard to read/use. The front page looks like a generic placeholder site - the kind that I would immediately click away from because it looks like the kind of scam/ad/virus site that I would not want to have any part of. I really wish you guys would just go back to the previous site design and modify as needed to work better across different devices. Otherwise, I think I'm going to have to find another airliner forum to frequent after almost 20 years of coming to A.net. Which would be very sad, but frankly this is unbearable to look at.

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 6:11 pm
by MD80Nut
This "upgrade" is a disaster! Hard to navigate and find what I'm looking for.

I'll try to adapt, but the changes are horrible.

No cheers, Ralph

Re: Airliners.net Site Downgrade and Privacy Issues

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 6:12 pm
by kiwiandrew
I am urgently trying to find a way to completely delete my profile and all my personal information from this site. There appears to be no option for deletion, which I am sure must be illegal in most jurisdictions. Given the privacy breaches mentioned by a number of posters I want my information off this site ASAP, but no one seems able to tell me how to delete my profile ?

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 6:14 pm
by airkas1
Guys,

It's been mentioned before, but the forum colors are amongst our top priorities.. So are the photo issues (awkward crops, upscaling and copyright bars) and names in profiles.

So please just bear with us until it's fixed, thanks.

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 6:16 pm
by IADCA
MD80Nut wrote:
This "upgrade" is a disaster! Hard to navigate and find what I'm looking for.

I'll try to adapt, but the changes are horrible.

No cheers, Ralph


And now, thanks to the wonders of the developers, I and anyone else can now know your name (first, last, and middle initial in your case) with two clicks! Isn't that nice? A new interface that exposes personal data, all hard-coded right into the whole thing!