ClipperMonsoon wrote:Why does it seem thats this place has flooded with pro AB fanboys, even some of the ones who are pilots, their post trickle with sarcasm, and others so bitter that their hometown airlines own Boeing a/c (you know, the lesser brand, the one that can only win orders by giving away free planes") it gets frustrating when not able to reply to these posts, because of the amount of vitriol towards anything American, 16 years ago i opened an account on what was then a much more exciting website, more of a positive attitude by people, now it seems like we have Auto Tech experts schooling the ones who have been pilots?!?!, or captains fudging numbers to make their companies aircraft seem better, then there is that group always throwing in a quick snarky comment, tired of "them" getting in their cheap shots, and the posts stay up!, but my posts always get deleted, mods say violations of rules, but it seems sometimes the other side gets away with it, maybe the mods are way too busy, thats understandable, no offense to them I keep them busy reporting stuff, the more rules put in place, the more that the non aviation people take over, dont even care if I get blocked, this place for the most part has become a joke.
Not over moderated
Just tired of the bias of some of the moderators
So, I'm not really going to address what's been reported or deleted or whatever. I try to avoid specifics in discussions like these.
What I will say is that we hear far more complaints about the forum being "pro Boeing" or too US centric. It's all about perception. I think there's probably been more vitriol towards Boeing in recent years because of the MAX, and the US in general due to political tensions. I think it's mainly a product of the news cycle rather than a change in forum culture. We received complaints for years about anti A380 topics, so I can assure you that it goes both ways. I'll agree that the pendulum has swung towards Boeing lately, but you've been here long enough to know that the forum goes through cycles, so it won't last. Keep in mind, there's not a whole lot we as moderators can do about this. If something violates the rules, we'll step in, but we're not here to control opinions.
As for you saying that some of us are biased in these regards.. I think that if you actually knew us, you'd find that accusation to be fairly ridiculous. I'm an air traffic controller — I will talk smack about the CRJ200 until the end of time, because objectively it is a piece of garbage. That's not biased, it's just fact. When it comes to Airbus or Boeing? I could care less. They're all targets on my radar display, and that's the case here as well. The moderating team as a whole is pretty experienced, and most of us have worked together for years. I can say quite categorically that my colleagues have too much pride in their role in this forum to let their own personal preferences cloud their judgement. You're welcome to continue believing that some mods are biased, but I'm just telling you that it's wrong.
As for the user makeup of the forum.. That's been a recurring complaint for years now. There's an overall misconception (in my opinion) that in the "good old days" the forum consisted only of respectful industry experts, and now it's just a bunch of armchair CEOs rubbing their "knowledge" in everyone's face. Fact is, the forum hasn't really changed that much. We still have plenty of insiders, they're just not the same ones as 10+ years ago. Back then, we still had plenty of know it alls. People have a tendency to look back on the old things with a happy nostalgia, but if you go back and read some old threads, it's more or less the same as you get today. Fanboyism, disrespectful attitudes, misinformation, etc. It's an ongoing battle for us, but it's a neverending one. The overall participation has declined, but that's more due to a rise in social media and a decreased interest in discussion forums rather than something we're specifically doing wrong.
Just keep reporting posts that you feel violate the rules, and we'll take a look at it. As long as you stick to discussing the topic and don't turn it into an Airbus vs Boeing fight, then you shouldn't need to worry about your posts. If you're tired of reading posts from specific users, then add them to your foe list so you won't see them anymore. If you have specific issues you need to address, you can email us at
moderators@airliners.net.