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Northwest Buying Continental?

Sun Dec 02, 2001 6:11 pm

Hey guys I have heard a rumor that Northwest Airlines is going to buy Continental. I also heard that buy 2005 Continental will be totally owned by Northwest.

Is that true?

-Dmitry.
 
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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Sun Dec 02, 2001 6:52 pm

Sure, if it makes you feel better, Antyning can happen. Alaksa could buy American by you logic. In fact norhtwest just bought Continental. Yes I can see it now. My paycheck is finally in Red and Grey collors. Long live NWA.
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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Sun Dec 02, 2001 6:57 pm

IAHERJ - NWA still does hold a rather significant chunk of CAL.B stock, so its not quite as far fetched as you might think, but it has about as much likelihood of happening in the near future as Osama Bin Laden does of being elected to the US Senate.
 
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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Sun Dec 02, 2001 7:02 pm

It wouldn´t make much sense, especially not under the view of fleet commonality. CO operates an all-Boeing fleet, Northwest has decided in favour of Airbus. Their regio fleets are as different as they could: CO Express has the ERJ-135/140/145, NW has the ARJ85, CRJ200, CRJ440, S340. Doesn´t make too much sense.

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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Mon Dec 03, 2001 12:45 am

Flying Tiger-fleet differences arn't the deciding factor you must remeber. But I to don't think it will happen. NWA hold well over 50% of KLM's stocks and the havn't ever bougth them out. It just gives NWA some power over CO and KLM. Besides, look at United and US. Anit trust laws would never let that go through.
 
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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Mon Dec 03, 2001 12:53 am

Anti-Trust laws, lol, that's funny, did the government just overlook that American Airlines buying TWA. I think that If they let that go through, they should of let United and US go though as well.
 
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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Mon Dec 03, 2001 12:59 am

The reason for the AA TWA deal was cause TWA was done. Thney could no longer meet the payment schedule for their bills. WOuld they have stayed in operation a little longer, yes but they would have had to sell just about everything they had. They would almost certainly been driven under before or no later then 9/11. Its sorry to see them go under but no carrier could survive that bad of mismanagement and the deals it had.

They had been making a strong come back lately, but had too many high expenses and long term deals it couldn't get out of.
 
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Vegas

Mon Dec 03, 2001 12:59 am

TWA waas different. They were going out of business. Somebody had to buy them or else they were finished, since no one flew on them anymore because there service sucked big time.
Continental isn't going bankrupt and I think there would be tons of probelms with the goverent. But thats just my opinion.
 
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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Mon Dec 03, 2001 1:03 am

Zeus, in this case I think they are. Operating two same-sized types from two different manufacturers alongside increases costs, especially training and maintenance. In today´s economic environment it is really important that you stream-line your fleet - but this is really difficult with 150 A32X and 150 737NG in your fleet. (Same applies for the B764/A333) Neither NW nor CO could afford replacing these still young planes with new ones. That other factors count is nothing I argue against.

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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Mon Dec 03, 2001 1:05 am

Anti-Trust laws were not deemed a roadblock in AA-TW, simply because acquiring TW would not make AA a Mega-Carrier, as would the speculative CO-NW, or the much-talked about DL-CO possible mergers. TW was but a fraction of it's former self, and it was, quite literally, considered to be a minor deal, compared to even a merger of US-UA. Plus, TW was on the way to going under, and this was seen as the best way to keep as many people employed as possible.

As for NW-CO, NW does still own Class B stock, but CO bought back he controlling interest in itself in January of 2000-a deal that is widely seen as causing Greg Brenneman to leave the company. In this economic climate with the decline of revenues even before 9-11, it would be far-fetched, at this time, to see anyone buying anyone at this time.
 
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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Mon Dec 03, 2001 1:29 am

Northwest can't afford to buy Continental at this time. Their first priority should be rehiring the people that got laid off.

That Northwest Continental merger was around about 4 years ago, long before i discovered this board. I know Northwest has a partnership with Continental.

If the case was fleet commonality, Delta would take over Continental and Northwest would take over USAirways... but I can't see any major mergers anytime soon.
 
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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Mon Dec 03, 2001 1:30 am

But what would happen if NW bought out CO?

Maybe we'd see the following CO fleet replacements:
738 with 722
777 with DC10
M80/733/735 with DC9
73G with A319

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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Mon Dec 03, 2001 1:39 am

That is complete and total bullshit. Where did you hear that rumor. Continental linked up with Northwest to escape the grasps of Delta. Now that CO has more money, they can easily drop their little marriage with North West when they want to. Plus, CO and NW don't even fly close to the same international routes. I can't wait until the day CO is flying 739s out of NRT. Big grin The odds of NW buying CO is about as slim as Alaska Airlines buying the Sonic Cruiser. And, CAL's 52 week high is 57.87, while NWAC's is only 33.06.

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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Mon Dec 03, 2001 1:43 am

That's never going to happen.
 
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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Mon Dec 03, 2001 4:10 am

NW does own a large portion of Continental. They have veto power over any buyout possibilities.. the same holds with KLM, although that is more of a partnership.
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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Mon Dec 03, 2001 4:37 am

Before this gets out of hand, while NW does own a block of CO stock, but in a recent deal, NW gave up its veto power so NW no longer controls CO's future. CO and NW, at the same time, did agree to continue their alliance and they do code-share on almost all domestic flights and share benefits in their frequent flyer programs. Its seems to be a happy alliance, but it is unlikely to go further.

The more talked about rumor is a DL-CO deal, which was a first a response to the proposed UA-US merger (was that only last year, it seems like centuries ago with all that has happened in recent months) and again mentioned as a response to the events of 9/11. In the current enviornment, dont look for anything like this to happen, every airline is fighting for its own survival and taking on the problems of others through mergers cannot be considered right now.

One should consider if AA would have gone forward with the TWA deal if they had known what a difficult period they would be facing.
 
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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Mon Dec 03, 2001 4:41 am

Before this gets out of hand, while NW does own a block of CO stock, but in a recent deal, NW gave up its veto power so NW no longer controls CO's future.

No. NWA traded in its CAL.A stock for CAL.B stock and maintained veto power over any acqusition of Continental. This was in January of 2001.
 
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Alaskaairlines

Mon Dec 03, 2001 4:51 am

As is always the case with "rumors" like this, I think we'd all like to know where you heard this particular rumor...
 
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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Mon Dec 03, 2001 4:53 am

There were proposed merger talks before the UAL US Airways talks, as much as 4 years ago, but it was shut down on anti-trust grounds I think. My memory is foggy on this one.
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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Mon Dec 03, 2001 4:59 am

Check CO's press releases concerning their deal with NW, there was a share buy-back and CO is now independent, at least according to the information on their web site.
 
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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Mon Dec 03, 2001 5:12 am

That is incorrect... NW still has veto power.
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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Mon Dec 03, 2001 5:17 am

They have veto power XFSUgimpLB41X, but they do not have owenership of CO in any way, nor do they have a Super Majority in stock ownewrship anymore.
 
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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Mon Dec 03, 2001 5:56 am

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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Mon Dec 03, 2001 6:00 am

Stop the presses!!!

This just in.

I've been informed by a very reliable source that....are you ready for this.........










































































AirCal is buying out JetBlue.










Can you believe that?
 
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RE: Alaskaairlines

Mon Dec 03, 2001 9:38 am

You know Gnomon, I am not sure were I heard this. I think it was from an airline pilot, I heard it a while back, so I can't remeber.

Thanks for all the comments.

-Dmitry.
 
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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Mon Dec 03, 2001 10:07 am

NorthWest gave back there stock minus 7% for the original purchace price. Not a bad deal to own 7% of Cal with generally zero cost. NWA still maintains their veto power. Ive heard that NWA will pick up CAL's South Pac routes. I think theres a Guam hub.

Delta will take out Cal. Things have changed now. With all the contract's in the works you wont hear crap until contracts have been settled. As far as Anti trust.Hahahahaha wake UP. The airline industry is the last dinasour not to consolidate. We need to consolidate. Anti trust hero's either dont understand the nature of the business. Or enjoy the Boom Bust cycle.
 
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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Mon Dec 03, 2001 11:37 am

NWA is in debt still, there is no way they can cough up tons to buy them!! I am not offending NWA, but I feel that NWA is a weak airline, that needs help. They were helped by the government plenty of times. They are the "babies" of airlines. NWA learned their lesson buying airlines when they got Republic Airlines, they were severely in debt after that! Remember, I am not offending NWA or anyone else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Continental
 
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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Mon Dec 03, 2001 11:39 am

I am not offending NWA, but I feel that NWA is a weak airline, that needs help. They were helped by the government plenty of times. They are the "babies" of airlines.

This analysis is why I keep coming back to airliners.net. Always insightful.  Smile
 
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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Mon Dec 03, 2001 12:41 pm

Not going to happen.

NW is NOT in a weak financial position, especially compared with a lot of other airlines.

NW along with a few others (not being UA, AA, DL or CO) were just rated as a "Good Buy" stock, meaning it's a good time to buy their stock, meaning they are a financially sound company.

While no one is doing great right now, I think NW is going to be around for a while.
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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Mon Dec 03, 2001 1:05 pm

NWA a weak airline? You need to read some history books. They just celebrated over 75 years of service. Continental has relied on bankruptcy numerous times to stay afloat. NWA wrote a personal check to buy Republic and pay off their debt. Their standardization, safety record, excellent maintenance and history of profitability have been admired for decades. The leveraged buyout of NWA put the debt on them. Not any operational or management mistakes. They hire as good a group of pilots as anyone. Yesterday NWA and AMR listed as the top airline stocks to buy. NWA does hold veto power over CONTINENTAL. My guess is if merger mania is reborn, NWA will buy CAL's Houston hub and Pacific and deal EWR to DAL. Been in discussions for a couple years now. Leo has been to MSP this year and meet with Mr. Anderson to discus things.
 
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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Mon Dec 03, 2001 1:05 pm

You all got it wrong!!!!

I thought the rumor was that Midwest Express was buying United AND Northwest in order to make a worldwide all first class airline! Here come full hot meals on UAX ORD-MKE flights!!!!!
 
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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Mon Dec 03, 2001 1:12 pm

Contiental said: NWA is in debt still, there is no way they can cough up tons to buy them!! I am not offending NWA, but I feel that NWA is a weak airline, that needs help. They were helped by the government plenty of times. They are the "babies" of airlines. NWA learned their lesson buying airlines when they got Republic Airlines, they were severely in debt after that! Remember, I am not offending NWA or anyone else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Where did you get that crap from? Northwest is the airline that needs the least amount of help.

 
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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Mon Dec 03, 2001 1:13 pm

NW isn't EVER going to buy CAL. The veto right is there to protect the NW/CO Alliance which is immensely profitable for both carriers.

And believe me, NW would give up that veto right for the right price.
 
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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Mon Dec 03, 2001 1:39 pm

I heard that Eastern and Braniff were merging too
 
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Stocks

Mon Dec 03, 2001 3:19 pm

Guys thanks for all you thoughts.

Like I said I heard a rumor, it was not a fact.

So you guys say NWA is the best airline to buy stocks? What do they sell a stock for?

-Dmitry.
 
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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Mon Dec 03, 2001 10:24 pm

Continental,

You had better re-read Northwest history. NW paid for the Rebublic acquisition with cash. After it was done NW still had the best balance sheet in the industry. It was this great balance sheet that led to the leveraged buyout by Wilson, Checchi and group. This is what placed NW in debt.
 
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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Tue Dec 04, 2001 12:15 am

I think your all dreaming, The whole industry is shot. Its a boom bust industry. UAL wont go under its too big, airlines are a good investment, Loads will be back by summer. Hahahaha dream on. Its gonna be years before the loads are like pre 9/11/01. first the economy has to rebound, then count off 3 + years then maybe the the PAX's will come, Lets not forget that the money is made with business travelers not JOE 6 PACK in the back.. As far as airlines with great balance sheet's, first of all where did all that extra $$ come from, Government, and sell lease back of old aircraft. U might be able to tap Uncle Sam twice, but once u sell and lease all your owned Aircraft that's it. Lines of credit, emmm NOT, with the banks exposure to Enron and a contracting economy there not in a hurry to lend to a historicly bad business model. Lets look at the airline industries return on assest. Ref yahoo finance, company profile. It suck's in fact with the exception of SouthWest + 8% Cal +1.5 %, there all negative that's right a big fat MINUS. Sure all the brokerages came out with a buy rating, Maybe they have stock they need to sell to dreamers on this board.

Merge to grow another bad idea, Its a commodity business and therefore no control over price.
grow route at a time thats the way to do it.

There's lots of fat in the business travel agents, food, rich corperate rewards for doing a crap job, to many airlines, tickets priced for failure.etc etc.

 
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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Tue Dec 04, 2001 3:47 am

Delta is better off buying Continental because they both have similar fleets of Boeing aircraft powered by GE CFM56 & CF6 engines. NW has Boeing 747-200/400s & 757-200/300s, Airbus A319s, A320s, A330s and McDonnell Douglas DC-9s & DC-10s.
 
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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Tue Dec 04, 2001 4:04 am

I agree Tedski, although I don't want anymore mergers to happen. In terms of fleet it would make more sense for Northwest to buy USAirways, but that isnt the sole basis for a merger, but Northwest have fleet commonality with the 757, A319, A320 and soon the A330. USAir's MD-80s, F-100s and 737s are on their way out and could be retired in the merger. Being that 757s and 767s are similar to operate as we learned from Sept 11, USAirways remaining 767s could work for a while, but would be redundant with the A330s joining the fleets.

As for commuter services Delta and Continental would not mix being that COex uses ERJ and Delta feeders use CRJs

A with USAirways and Northwest- Northwest is going CRJ while USAirways has CRJ and ERJs in their various feeders.

But lets hope that NO MORE mergers need to happen.
 
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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Tue Dec 04, 2001 4:18 am

When is NWA going to start operating the A330's HlywdCatft?

-Dmitry.
 
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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Tue Dec 04, 2001 5:04 am

If that's true, "NorthContinentalWest" would be one huge lousy airline . . . both should be run out of business.
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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Tue Dec 04, 2001 5:15 am

In terms of fleet commonality, NWA would be a better fit with U.S. Airways or America West, which could be possible since U.S. Airways and AWA are said to be the two airlines in the most financial trouble post-9/11. Continental would be a good fit with Delta, even with different RJs in their regional airlines (Delta already has the Do328JET in service with ACJet, so fleet types don't mean too much in the regional market). I really see Delta, CAL, and Northwest striking up some kind of deal so that Delta may be able to take over CAL, perhaps slots at DCA, some JFK ops, and maybe some other considerations. Mergers in the industry will occur in the next few years now more than ever. Once the United/U.S. Airways merger fell apart, it looked like the merger fever was over, but after 9/11, things changed. Some airlines will be looking for saviors, and the U.S. government is not who many airlines will turn to. They would rather have another airline involved as a stockholder than the Feds. Many would rather bring Carl Icahn, Frank Lorenzo, and Donald Trump in as investors than get Federal loans that would in fact give the government an equity share of the airline.
 
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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Tue Dec 04, 2001 8:51 am

Northwest and Continental have won more awards for customer preference than the big 3 combined over the last decade. NWA has won the on-time award almost every year the past decade. Both have excellent safety records. So if you call them lousy, I'd love to hear your report on the Big 3 who lag in most categories.
 
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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Tue Dec 04, 2001 8:54 am

No damn way. Northwest is a poor airline. How can they afford all of Continental's stuff and planes?

Mark
 
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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Tue Dec 04, 2001 9:05 am

Actually, Northwest is less poor than Continental is.
 
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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Tue Dec 04, 2001 10:59 am

Continental is the most in debt airline!! They have a whole lot of liabilities, but no assets. Many analyst say both Northwest and Continental as the worst balance sheets. Although, I do agree NWA is in a little better shape then Continental. Southwest, Delta, and American Airlines have the best balance sheets.

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Any Economical Sense Here? My God.

Tue Dec 04, 2001 11:21 am

Even though I doubt that their will be a merger, I keep seeing all these arguments about who has the best balance sheet etc.

According to the FAA and for all you who want to challenge me, go look on the FAA website or on forbes .com, NWA and Delta right now are the most profitable airlines.
NWA has won the most on time awards and has proven far far more succesful with a partnership than any other airline. (NWA/KLM) Name on eairline who has a partner as loyal as KLM. THats right, there isn't one.

Next, airline fleet isn't a deciding factor, though a bigt one. NWA's Aibus fleet in just as young as any of continetals 737NG. Do you know when the last A319 was delivered??????? Last week in Minneapolis.

Just because NWA uses older aircraft, which will be gone all to soon, mnean snothing. You want to know why United sucks??? NEw airlplanes, no money for anything lese, while they could use older aircraft and refit them like NWA.

MOST Importantly, there is the money factor. Airlines don't ponder all night how to make your trip great, or about what would be the perfect airline or anything like that. They worry about putting those depostits into the bank. What ever brings in the cash, they will do it without a fuccking care for you.
THats a fact.
 
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RE: Any Economical Sense Here? My God.

Tue Dec 04, 2001 11:35 am

I was hesitant to even respond to such a rediculous thread. It isn't even an issue, wether or not these two will merge. It is well known (by most people who actually read airline news and know anything factual about the companies involved) that NW and CO don't believe in mergers, but virtual mergers (NW learned a very hard lesson with Republic). It is very obvious that NW plans to grow domestically and in its Pacific network and in Europe through the KLM partnership. NW is smart to grow in all other areas through alliances. Not just a frequent flier agreement, but a full fledged alliance that will benefit them and their customers. It makes no economical sense for NW to start all kinds of flying in South America for example, when they can do it virtually cost free through a partnership with CO. It is for this very reason that NW and CO cooperate so closely, just short of a merger. NW and CO didn't believe that it made sense for them to grow together through a merger and create job losses and crazy cost structures, which was the plan if DL would have won the bid for CO back then. Therefore, there isn't even a remote chance these airlines will merge. Not because of the fleet, economic conditions right now or anything else. But for the sheer fact that they just don't have or need to!!! NW is smart to remain a small giant in the industry... proof is in the pudding at UA and AA right now.

Also, all the airlines are suffering to some degree... even Southwest to all those naysayers out there. But to the people who believe NW is a weak airline, you need to look at the facts and the real information. Not your third party crazy opinion.

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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Tue Dec 04, 2001 12:58 pm

NWA got its ass saved tons of times! If it weren't for the government, there'd be no NWA. Why are there still DC-9s, DC-10s?

Continental
 
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RE: Northwest Buying Continental?

Tue Dec 04, 2001 1:04 pm

The government of MN helped NW out in exchange for the building of facilities in MN. So, NW built an airbus maintenance base in Duluth and a new reservations center there too. They are the largest private employer in the state of MN and created thousands of jobs for the people of that state. They fulfilled and exceeded their end of the bargain... I'd say thats a great repayment to the government for their help.

What is the point of your comment anyway...?


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