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AE RJ's To LAX 2/02

Tue Dec 11, 2001 10:49 am

Wow, today sure is a day to confirm old discussions on here. A good day, first NW officially announces its new Asia service, now AE announces new service out of LAX. All new routes (well LAX-PHX used to be mainline prior to 9/11), but now LAX-OAK, LAX-ABQ, LAX-SAC on ERJ-140's.

FOR RELEASE: Monday, Dec. 10, 2001

LOS ANGELES – American Eagle, regional affiliate of American Airlines and the world’ s largest regional airline, announced today that it will launch regional jet service from Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) beginning in February 2002 with service to Albuquerque, Phoenix and Oakland.

"We are delighted to be able to provide our West Coast customers the added comfort and flexibility offered by our fleet's newest regional jets, the 44-seat Embraer ERJ-140," said Peter Bowler, Eagle's president. "Eagle has a long history of service with turboprop aircraft into LAX, and with a regional jet fleet of more than 100, it's long overdue that we brought this level of service to California, Arizona and New Mexico."

Eagle's initial three destinations will include Albuquerque, Phoenix and Oakland with LAX service expanding to Sacramento in early March at the same time Eagle will establish service between Phoenix and San Jose. In all, Eagle will be adding 19 RJ round-trip flights at LAX. March's four round-trip flights between Phoenix and San Jose will allow Narita, Japan, passengers to connect to Phoenix. The new jets will operate out of LAX Terminal 3 with jet-bridged service at each gate.

"We have had fantastic customer response to our RJ fleet in every market where they operate," said Bowler. "Over the past three years of deploying these new aircraft, our focus has been in Chicago where we have an all-RJ operation and in the Northeast where our all-RJ operations include New York's La Guardia and Raleigh/Durham. Bringing these jets to the West Coast provides us with the range to connect Los Angeles passengers with destinations Eagle previously has not served."

The ERJ-140 regional jets feature luxurious navy blue leather seats in a "one by two" seating arrangement, with one seat on the left of the aisle and two seats on the right. The jets also have a closet for hanging bags, large overhead bins and a spacious lavatory. Powered by two Rolls-Royce engines, the jets are among the quietest airplanes in the world and can cruise up to 530 miles per hour at 37,000 feet.

With a 268-aircraft fleet that includes more than 110 regional jets, American Eagle offers more than 1,600 daily flights to more than 130 cities throughout the United States, Canada, the Bahamas, Mexico and the Caribbean. Members of American’s AADVANTAGE frequent traveler program earn a minimum of 500 miles for every American Eagle flight.

American Eagle West Coast RJ service will be implemented as follows. (All times are Pacific Standard Time.)

Starting Feb. 5, 2002:

From LAX to Oakland From Oakland to LAX

Flight Depart Arrive Aircraft Flight Depart Arrive Aircraft
3403 7:10 a.m. 8:30 a.m. ERJ-140 3402*6:50 a.m 8:17 a.m. ERJ-140
3405 10:55 a.m. 12:18 p.m. ERJ-140 3404 9 a.m. 10:20 a.m. ERJ-140
3407 1:10 p.m. 2:35 p.m. ERJ-140 3406 12:50 p.m 2:10 p.m. ERJ-140
3409 3:45 p.m. 5:03 p.m. ERJ-140 3408 3:05 p.m. 4:25 p.m. ERJ-140
3413 6:05 p.m. 7:25 p.m. ERJ-140 3410 5:35 p.m. 6:49 p.m. ERJ-140
3411 7:45 p.m. 9:03 p.m. ERJ-140 3412 7:55 p.m. 9:10 p.m. ERJ-140
*Flight begins operation on 2/6/02

From LAX to Phoenix From Phoenix to LAX

Flight Depart Arrive Aircraft Flight Depart Arrive Aircraft
3415 9:30 a.m. 11:55 a.m. ERJ-140 3414* 6:15 a.m. 6:40 a.m. ERJ-140
3419 1:55 p.m. 4:20 p.m. ERJ-140 3416 12:45 p.m 1:15 p.m. ERJ-140
3417 5:05 p.m. 7:30 p.m. ERJ-140 3418 5:00 p.m. 5:30 p.m. ERJ-140
*Flight begins operation on 2/6/02

From DFW to Albuquerque From Albuquerque to DFW

Flight Depart Arrive Aircraft Flight Depart Arrive Aircraft
3921 8:08 a.m. 9:05 a.m. ERJ-140 3922 12:17 p.m 3:07 p.m. ERJ-140

From Albuquerque to LAX From LAX to Albuquerque
Flight Depart Arrive Aircraft Flight Depart Arrive Aircraft
3400 9:45 a.m. 11:05 a.m. ERJ-140 3401 8:50 a.m. 11:42 a.m. ERJ-140
Starting March 2, 2002:

From LAX to Phoenix From Phoenix to LAX

Flight Depart Arrive Aircraft Flight Depart Arrive Aircraft
3421 6:40 a.m. 9:01 a.m. ERJ-140 3414 6:15 a.m. 6:40 a.m. ERJ-140
3415 9:30 a.m. 11:55 a.m. ERJ-140 3420* 10:30 a.m. 11 a.m. ERJ-140
3423 11 a.m. 1:26 p.m. ERJ-140 3416 2 p.m. 2:30 p.m ERJ-140
3419 1:55 p.m. 4:20 p.m. ERJ-140 3426 5 p.m. 5:30 p.m. ERJ-140
3417 3:40 p.m. 6:05 p.m. ERJ-140 3418 6:40 p.m. 7:10 p.m. ERJ-140
3425 7:55 p.m. 10:17 p.m. ERJ-140 3424 8:30 p.m. 8:55 p.m. ERJ-140
*Flight begins operation on 3/3/02

From San Jose to Phoenix From Phoenix to San Jose

Flight Depart Arrive Aircraft Flight Depart Arrive Aircraft
3443* 7 a.m. 9:50 a.m. ERJ-140 3442 9:35 a.m. 10:29 a.m. ERJ-140
3445 11:45 a.m. 2:39 p.m. ERJ-140 3444 12:45 p.m. 1:40 p.m. ERJ-140
3447 2:15 p.m. 5:05 p.m. ERJ-140 3448 3:15 p.m. 4:09 p.m. ERJ-140
3449 5 p.m. 7:50 p.m. ERJ-140 34465:40 p.m. 6:35 p.m. ERJ-140
*Flight begins operation on 3/3/02

Starting March 4, 2002:

From LAX to Sacramento From Sacramento to LAX

Flight Depart Arrive Aircraft Flight Depart Arrive Aircraft
3431 6:45 a.m. 8:13 a.m. ERJ-140 3430* 6:45 a.m 8:12 a.m. ERJ-140
3433 8:55 a.m. 10:20 a.m. ERJ-140 3432 9 a.m. 10:25 a.m. ERJ-140
3437 11:30 a.m. 12:58 p.m. ERJ-140 3434 10:50 a.m. 12:14 p.m. ERJ-140
3439 3 p.m. 4:28 p.m. ERJ-140 3438 1:35 p.m. 2:58 p.m. ERJ-140
3441 5 p.m. 6:28 p.m. ERJ-140 3436 5 p.m. 6:23 p.m. ERJ-140
3435 8 p.m. 9:28 p.m. ERJ-140 3440 7:05 p.m. 8:28 p.m. ERJ-140
*Flight begins operation on 3/5/02
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RE: AE RJ's To LAX 2/02

Tue Dec 11, 2001 10:53 am

This sounds like a compeditive move with UA. UA put CRJs on many ex Shuttle routes out of LAX. Most of those AE ERJs are going to the same cities that UAX jets now serve from LAX.

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RE: AE RJ's To LAX 2/02

Tue Dec 11, 2001 11:20 am

nice nice........i havnt seen any Rj's at LAX...correct?

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RE: AE RJ's To LAX 2/02

Tue Dec 11, 2001 12:38 pm

And yet both airlines continue to shaft San Diego by only sending props!
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RE: AE RJ's To LAX 2/02

Tue Dec 11, 2001 1:17 pm

Interesting...first UA changes all but one of its LAX-OAK flights to CRJ. Now this...

It would've been nice to resume mainline service. But at least AA re-enters the market. I flew them exclusively on the LAX-OAK route last year until they dropped it. Now they have me flying into SFO on Friday (which is even better). This is me more options instead of just UA and WN.

One correction to the thread starter: as I've stated, LAX-OAK used to mainline with ex-QQ aircraft.
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RE: AE RJ's To LAX 2/02

Tue Dec 11, 2001 1:17 pm

Lindy Field: Indeed! I'd sorely like to see some RJ's on the SAN-LAX corridor. This I'd consider connecting in LAX more often if I didn't have to fly a cramped, slower turboprop to LAX, parking at a commuter terminal from which I'd have to take a shuttle bus to the main terminal.

ILUV767: One could say that UA's placement of RJ's at LAX catalyzed AA's move to do the same. However, I believe that the root of this decision, by both carriers, was the post-Sept. 11 decision to phase out their older turboprops, making way for an eventual all-RJ fleet. IIRC from earlier press releases AA had stated that they intended to make AE an all-jet operation by 2002 or 2003.

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RE: AE RJ's To LAX 2/02

Wed Dec 12, 2001 9:25 am

Yep, this definetely looks like a way to counter UA bring RJ's to LAX. Thanks for pointing out, I forgot that LAX-OAK used to exist mainline.

(Oh yeah, I'm also bumping this up so AA-SAN can find it)
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RE: AE RJ's To LAX 2/02

Wed Dec 12, 2001 9:36 am

Thanks, i saw it almost the minute i asked about it in the other thread... i was really hoping we would see some SAN news, but I guess this is a good start. Does anybody know what the date is that AE is planning on becoming "all jet" or has this changed since they originally planned on this. If my memory is still holding out today, I think I remember a 2004 date??? Anybody have a more exact date?
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Wed Dec 12, 2001 10:32 am

AE is still moving ahead with plans to replace all SAAB's with RJ's. But what you are seeing with this announcement is not replacing SAABs with RJ's, but replacing mainline flying with RJ's. SAN and all the other LAX SAAB markets won't be getting RJ's until AA is finished replacing mainline flights.

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