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Lufthansa Taking Over SR 340-600 's?

Tue Dec 18, 2001 2:05 am

I heard (a rumour) that Lufthansa is taking over some Airbus A340-600's from Swissair on top of the ones they ordered themselves. Virgin also wants to defer some A340-600's, making CX (unwanted) launch customer. A sad start for a beautifull aircraft ...

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RE: Lufthansa Taking Over SR 340-600 's?

Tue Dec 18, 2001 2:07 am

So sad!
Poor economic problem!
 
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RE: Lufthansa Taking Over SR 340-600 's?

Tue Dec 18, 2001 2:30 am

IB is getting some of the ex-SR 346s I believe.
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RE: Lufthansa Taking Over SR 340-600 's?

Tue Dec 18, 2001 10:50 pm

There are only three. One of the five is going to Air Canada and the other to Virgin.
 
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RE: Lufthansa Taking Over SR 340-600 's?

Tue Dec 18, 2001 11:53 pm

Swissair had an order for 9 A346 plus a leasing contract for additional 2 via ILCF.

So far 2 SR slots have been reallocated for Virgin and Air Canada, and 3 have been cancelled, according to Bill Harms' superb website. There are 4 to be reallocated, and ILFC has to find a new customer for 2 A346.

Iberia might get some of them, but as for LH taking over some of the SR A346, I am a bit sceptical. Perhaps there has been a confusion, because LH Cargo is taking over some SR MD-11. But that's only speculation, of course.

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RE: Lufthansa Taking Over SR 340-600 's?

Thu Dec 20, 2001 7:33 pm

some interesting tidbits, taken from

Lufthansa offered bargain lease deal for ex-Flightlease A340-600s

Manufacturer is looking for a taker for nine aircraft ordered for now-bankrupt Swissair

Airbus is attempting to recruit Lufthansa as a launch operator for the A340-600 with an attractive lease deal on the first three aircraft originally earmarked for Swissair.

However the German flag-carrier says it has rejected the offer and is sticking to its current delivery schedule for the stretched A340, which will see its first aircraft handed over in mid-2003.

Airbus is casting around for takers for nine Swissair aircraft ordered by the latter's leasing affiliate Flightlease but cancelled following the financial collapse of the Swiss flag-carrier. Virgin Atlantic, due to be the first operator of the A340-600, has meanwhile shelved plans to begin taking its aircraft from June 2002 leaving Cathay Pacific as a reluctant potential launch operator. Talks on the delivery of the Virgin aircraft continue, however.

Lufthansa, which already has 10 A340-600s on order, says Airbus approached it with an offer on the first three Flightlease aircraft "a couple of months ago", but the proposal is being rejected because it would be "too expensive" to modify the cabins and systems on the ex-Flightlease A340s to meet its own specifications. "The case is now closed," says the German airline, which operates a large fleet of A340-200/300s and recently confirmed a deal for 15 A380s. "There are no further talks with Airbus planned from our side," it adds.

Despite Lufthansa's comments, sources familiar with the discussions say Airbus still believes it can do a deal with the German airline. The sources add that Lufthansa decided to break-off the talks after Airbus withdrew its original offer and resubmitted a proposal containing less favorable terms.

Airbus declines to comment other than saying the manufacturer is "actively marketing these aircraft" and that there are "several possibilities". However, Iberia is understood to be discussing a possible switch of two of three A340-300s due for delivery next year to the larger -600, while South African Airways could be interested in some or all of the aircraft.


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well, i really hoped LH would go for being the launch customer...
perhaps they´re still waiting for a sweeter offer by Airbus?

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