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Airbus A340 Srs. 200 Future

Wed Dec 26, 2001 1:34 am

I understand that Airbus is now considering focusing marketing efforts concerning the Airbus A340-200 on it as the bigger brother of the Airbus A319CJ for government use, this plan involving the use of newly-built airframes and the existing 28 airframes, most of them likely to become surplus with their airline operators sooner than later. Airbus seems to believe in a growing market for larger VIP transports (according to rumours, Britain and Germany are in the market for a 767/A340 sized aircraft for government use). If I have the stats correctly, of the 29 Airbus A340-200s built, 6 are already in (semi-)government use (Brunei, Jordan, Egypt, Saudia-Arabia, Qatar, Saudi Kingdom Holding) and a 7th, the ill-fated Srs. –8000 aircraft, was originally built for Prince Jefri of Brunei before his fall from grace. Makes sense from my point of view, as the last airline sale of a Srs. –200 aircraft dates back to 1997 (Egyptair) and a number of airline aircraft are slated for replacement (Lufthansa, Air Tahiti Nui, not sure about AOM), have been wfu after 9/11 (Austrian, Sabena) or are already in storage (PAL). Governments, I guess, will prefer 4 engined aircraft for their Heads of State and probably only a few will opt for the oversized Boeing 747.

The breakdown of Airbus A340-200s I have (former operators include Air France, Cathay Pacific, Philippines) is below – looks as if at least 13 aircraft are or will be in the market in the near future:

6 Lufthansa (c/n 006 / 008 / 011 / 018 / 019 / 021)
(long-time rumour is that they will be replaced by A330-200s, they are mostly used on mid-haul routes to the near and middle east at the moment)

4 Aerolineas Argentinas (c/n 063 / 074 / 080 / 085)
(have they been returned to the lessors after the stop of operations by AR a couple of months ago ?)

3 Egyptair (c/n 156 / 159 /178)

2 Austrian Airlines (c/n 075 / 081)
(to the best of my knowledge, wfu after 9/11)

2 AOM (c/n 038 / 043)
(as far as I know, AOM only wants to keep the Srs. –300 aircraft in the long-term)

2 Sabena (c/n 014 / 022)
(now in storage after the SN collapse)

1 Air Tahiti Nui (031)
(to be replaced by 2 A340-300 – is the Srs. 200 still in service ?)

6 Governments / private:
Jordan
Saudi-Arabia
Brunei
Qatar
Egypt
Saudi Kingdom Holding

2 in long-term storage (176 / 204)

1 destroyed (c/n 010)
 
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RE: Airbus A340 Srs. 200 Future

Wed Dec 26, 2001 2:13 am

I think the government will soon buy some converted A340-200 from LH. Some of the Air Force A310 were also bought from LH (others from INTERFLUG, the airline of the GDR)

In times with heads of states meeting each other very often, it's time to replace the A310s with some newer stuff  Big grin

Also, i could imagine the british government buying some of the LH A342 - the relations between the UK and Germany have improved since the election of the social-democratic chancellor Schroeder it would be a nice gesture of friendship from Tony Blair to buy the A340 (I think there is no other possibility than A340) from the German Lufthansa  Smile

 
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RE: Airbus A340 Srs. 200 Future

Wed Dec 26, 2001 2:18 am

Under what circumstances was 010 destroyed?

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RE: Airbus A340 Srs. 200 Future

Wed Dec 26, 2001 2:30 am

c/n 010 was destroyed in a hangar fire at CDG during maintenance with Air France (at that time, afaik, operated by Sabena)
 
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RE: Airbus A340 Srs. 200 Future

Wed Dec 26, 2001 3:36 am

Yes, 010 was destroyed in a hanger fire at CDG. Ironically, the same thing happened to an UTA 747-300 F-GDUA on March 16, 1985 at the same location!
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RE: Airbus A340 Srs. 200 Future

Wed Dec 26, 2001 3:37 am

Is Canada 3000's A340 still at YYZ and are the rest of the aircraft?
I was there at the end of Novemeber and they looked so sad in a row. I got a good look because I was on a CO B757 and we sat on the taxiway opposite of a good 30 minutes.
 
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RE: Airbus A340 Srs. 200 Future

Wed Dec 26, 2001 3:58 am

The Canada 3000 340 was a -300.
I think it is now earmarked for Air Tahiti Nui.
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RE: Airbus A340 Srs. 200 Future

Wed Dec 26, 2001 9:55 am

With so many surplus A340-200 airplanes available, don't be surprised if the governments of the UK, Germany, France and even Canada jumps at a chance to buy them at a low cost and convert them to executive transports for use by the heads of states of the countries I've mentioned.

It's even possible that these modified A342's might have MORE unrefuelled range than the VC-25A's used for Presidential use here in the USA (the range will probably be around 6,800 to 7,000 nautical miles). Mind you, the VC-25A can be refuelled using the Boeing Flying Boom system mounted on KC-135's and KC-10's.
 
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RE: Airbus A340 Srs. 200 Future

Wed Dec 26, 2001 1:14 pm

The 342 is definitely an orphan with ltd or no future sales prospects. The seat mile costs are also higher than the 343 since seating capacity is less.

There will probably be an unplanned slow consolidation of the 28 aircraft as govt transports. Second hand 342's are probably a good deal for a small flag carrier or a charter carrier.

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RE: Airbus A340 Srs. 200 Future

Wed Dec 26, 2001 2:34 pm

Peter_A330:

Yes, the C3000 A340 is still parked on the south side of the airport, in a row, next to Hwy. 401. (As of Dec. 24th, 2001)

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RE: Airbus A340 Srs. 200 Future

Wed Dec 26, 2001 2:50 pm

Air Tahiti Nui will retire their A342 when they receives the 2nd A343.

2 A343 all comes from Sabena.
 
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RE: Airbus A340 Srs. 200 Future

Wed Dec 26, 2001 8:41 pm

I'm not altogether sure of the Austrian Airlines situation. I am flying with them to Tokyo in February and although I have heard reports of the -200s' retirement, I have been told that the flight will be operated by a -200.

I sincerely hope this will be the case!
 
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RE: Airbus A340 Srs. 200 Future

Wed Dec 26, 2001 10:09 pm

The 342 destroyed on 20 January, 1994 was the Air France F-GNIA, delivered on 13 May 1993.


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RE: Airbus A340 Srs. 200 Future

Wed Dec 26, 2001 10:29 pm

Jiml1126

Air Tahiti will buy one Airbus A340-300 - an ex Sabena aircraft - and lease the second from ILFC, an ex C3000 aircraft.
 
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RE: Airbus A340 Srs. 200 Future

Thu Dec 27, 2001 7:19 pm

vfw614

c/n 010 was destroyed in a hangar fire at CDG during maintenance with Air France (at that time, afaik, operated by Sabena)

This aircraft was never operated by Sabena, but by Air France. It was infact dry leased from Sabena.

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AOM / Aerolineas Airbus A340 Srs. 200

Fri Dec 28, 2001 12:44 am

So, what is the status of AOM's and Aerolineas Argentina's Airbus A340-200 ?

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