Amiga500 wrote:So, no doubt then that the original choice of CSeries was highly political.
PITingres wrote:Maybe it was and maybe it wasn't, but there is no possible logic that leads from the maintenance issue to the original CSeries decision.
PITingres wrote:You're basically saying "I think X was political, and look here is something involving the same players that is political, so X must have been political." That's not a valid conclusion. I'd say that there is plenty of doubt.
INFINITI329 wrote:The initial fight was between the govt of Quebec and AC. If they cancel the order the lawsuit would more than likely be reinstated. AC has already been found guilty of violating a 1988 law relating to mx center in Quebec. They are blowing smoke.
Maybe it was and maybe it wasn't, but there is no possible logic that leads from the maintenance issue to the original CSeries decision.
jetmatt777 wrote:Either way, the Canadian economy loses. Air Canada will outsource maintenance to another country, thus affecting Canadian jobs. If they cancel the order, Bombardier will lose out and risk jobs there as well.
PanAm788 wrote:Maybe it was and maybe it wasn't, but there is no possible logic that leads from the maintenance issue to the original CSeries decision.
You are correct that there is no logic and that is precisely why this shows that the CSeries order was political. If the CSeries was bar none the best aircraft for AC then there is no way they would threaten to cancel the order. Since it was clearly a political order, it is on the bargaining table.
wrongwayup wrote:Everyone keeps talking about this as a "political" order. This is not Air Canada being pressured by the government(s) to buy C Series, but Air Canada buying the C Series to (among other things) get what they want from the government(s). It's an important distinction...
N717TW wrote:I could be wrong, but wasn't the MX part of the settlement to the AC-Gov't of Québec litigation? If so, that's not the gov't telling AC what to do, that's negotiating a settlement that ends a legal dispute and no different than two private parties reaching agreements that benefit (or better stated, that are less painful) each other.
Amiga500 wrote:I'm not sure how this ties in to any WTO restrictions on illegal aid (aid not necessarily having to take the form of money).
airtran737 wrote:Good for AC. The government shouldn't be telling them where they have to do their heavy MX.
sebring wrote:Secondly, this whole thread is moot: The amended ACPPA has been passed into law, and Air Canada will presumably move on now to signing a contract for the 45 firm CSeries aircraft plus options.
Devilfish wrote:Expedited in no small way by this.....
http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articl ... eries.html
enilria wrote:Amiga500 wrote:I'm not sure how this ties in to any WTO restrictions on illegal aid (aid not necessarily having to take the form of money).
Since DL won't complain as they probably got an even better deal than AC, I don't there is anybody left to complain.airtran737 wrote:Good for AC. The government shouldn't be telling them where they have to do their heavy MX.
Or what nationality flights attendants should be ? or pilots ? I'm always incredulous that maintenance somehow is treated differently than pilots or FAs in the march of aviation nationalism. The same airlines complaining about competitors using foreign air crews use foreign maintenance staff.
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