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enilria wrote:southwest1675 wrote:Word is, BNA will be getting SNA, BDL, PDX, MSP, and MKE.
Given that the WN fleet is growing and the proximity between ATL and BNA, I would suggest what is good for BNA is bad for ATL.
masseybrown wrote:One of these days, WN needs to get serious about DCA. Their Q1/16 loads seriously trail the competition. 69.3% for WN vs 89.1% for F9, 84.7% for NK, and 80.6% for B6. Fill the planes or lease out the slots.
Cubsrule wrote:masseybrown wrote:One of these days, WN needs to get serious about DCA. Their Q1/16 loads seriously trail the competition. 69.3% for WN vs 89.1% for F9, 84.7% for NK, and 80.6% for B6. Fill the planes or lease out the slots.
Are the respective DCA operations similar enough that these comparisons are meaningful? DCA is not a large operation for Frontier, and B6 flies nothing to a state that does not touch the Atlantic Ocean.
masseybrown wrote:One of these days, WN needs to get serious about DCA. Their Q1/16 loads seriously trail the competition. 69.3% for WN vs 89.1% for F9, 84.7% for NK, and 80.6% for B6. Fill the planes or lease out the slots.
dabpit wrote:fsafsx wrote:Wait why won't they fly daily to FNT anymore? I sure hope Detroit doesn't get those Orlando nonstop flights from it.
WN already flies MCO - FNT with one flight a week.
masseybrown wrote:My thought is they could make more leasing some smallish number of their slots than by flying planes with below-break even loads, which I believe they said is in the low 80's. Alternatively, they could move some flights to higher volume destinations.
knope2001 wrote:I'm not finding anything much new either.
ScottB wrote:IMO that's the right way to look at the extension for January/February. Apart from MLK Day and some traffic around Presidents' Day (which is part of a school vacation week in some northern states), January & February are pretty much the weakest months of the year for air travel.
ScottB wrote:In WN's weak markets, leisure passengers are a lot less likely to even look at WN's pricing and may only shop through the OTAs.
enilria wrote:EWR-MCO only started a couple of months ago and IAD has seen Florida service come and go, with it coming back again this Winter. Even CLE which isn't even a hub any more does not have daily service to Florida and CAK is down to just ATL.
usflyguy wrote:DTW-MCO
msycajun wrote:Seeing that MKE is on the route map, I checked and a nonstop is listed on Google flights, but not on Southwest.com. Perhaps some markets are on hold since the Havana awards were just announced.
southwest1675 wrote:msycajun wrote:Seeing that MKE is on the route map, I checked and a nonstop is listed on Google flights, but not on Southwest.com. Perhaps some markets are on hold since the Havana awards were just announced.
MKE-where?
southwest1675 wrote:It's obvious at this point that the BNA expansion rumor wasn't fulfilled this release. I'm not even seeing anything new in general.
southwest1675 wrote:According to Google Flights, BNA-EWR is back on March 24th.
SteveXC500 wrote:southwest1675 wrote:According to Google Flights, BNA-EWR is back on March 24th.
How would Google Flights have that information if the WN schedule only goes through March 7th?
southwest1675 wrote:BHM is apparently getting some love. They are apparently getting BNA, MSY, JAX, and STL.
SANFan wrote:Just in case anyone's interested, Bill has posted his recap for the sked change here:
http://www.blogsouthwest.com/now-book-f ... ch-8-2017/
FYI, there is a .pdf comparison chart of the changes in all markets. Click on the
"See attached" in the last sentence for the link to the chart.
The EWR-SJU & DAL-RNO adds - both Sat Only - are the mentioned "highlights" of the extension...
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ROCDLFAN wrote:Wait- so is that to imply that ROC will be loosing more service, or will see non daily additions? The station already is down to 5 flights, 7 on a good day.
SANFan wrote:One thing I'm wondering about is whether WN might react to some of AS's recent moves in the intra-California markets? I believe this is the first new WN sked since AS announced new SAN & SJC routes so might we see WN enhancing the frequencies in a few of those markets?
SteveXC500 wrote:Next schedule extension is less than a month away. August 4th and will run through the end of April.