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New Zealand Aviation thread part 180

Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:52 am

Welcome to the 180th edition of the New Zealand.

Link to the previous thread viewtopic.php?f=3&t=607663&start=200
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Re: New Zealand Aviation thread part 180

Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:58 am

NZ1 wrote:
zkanz wrote:
zkncj wrote:



Maybe an new route launch?


Does anyone know the reasoning for this visit? Did it even end up happening?


The 789 visit to WLG was a charter flight. Further details are confidential.

NZ1


Its been quoted else where that the 4x charters (1x 789, 2x A320 and 1x ATR) to WLG was a charter for the Exclusive Brethern.
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Re: New Zealand Aviation thread part 180

Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:45 pm

Tianjin Airlines, which are owned by VA's new shareholder HNA Group, have applied for three weekly Tianjin-Chongqing-Auckland route from Dec 2016 with A330.
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation thread part 180

Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:41 pm

Do Air NZ need to take some action to protect their position on the NZ-China route?
Perhaps more frequencies with CX through HKG, and closer links with Air China on more direct services???
What?
 
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Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:46 pm

You need not break apart this forum's discussion threads anymore.
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation thread part 180

Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:53 pm

In the previous thread ZKPilot suggested DEN as a possible new destination. Not likely, the payload hit is pretty severe.
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation thread part 180

Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:02 am

xiaotung wrote:
Tianjin Airlines, which are owned by VA's new shareholder HNA Group, have applied for three weekly Tianjin-Chongqing-Auckland route from Dec 2016 with A330.


Are these significant cities of origin for traffic to AKL?
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation thread part 180

Tue Jul 05, 2016 1:36 am

evanm wrote:
You need not break apart this forum's discussion threads anymore.


Agreed. I still think that posting in #179 doesn't seem right though. I propose that we just rename this one to "The New Zealand Aviation Thread" to match the new direction.
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation thread part 180

Tue Jul 05, 2016 8:37 pm

Looks like the fog has now disabled regional services into AKL, with most North Island regional flights returning to point of departure.

NZ A320 services seem to be still coming in, yet JQ is sending theirs to WLG.

Does JQ have less rating for landing in AKL during bad fog days?
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation thread part 180

Tue Jul 05, 2016 10:21 pm

From the previous thread: I just wanted to thank Mariner for his response Re: European routes.

I hope in time to see more ANZ metal in these parts but it is good to see the airline doing well.
 
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Wed Jul 06, 2016 1:25 am

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Re: New Zealand Aviation thread part 180

Wed Jul 06, 2016 3:45 am

Noticed a few days ago that the delivery date for Air NZ 789 ZK-NZI has changed from 15 Jul to 28 Jul.
http://nyc787.blogspot.com '787 Full Production Table'

Appears it still hasn't been painted. Roll Out was 07 Jun and First Flight was 01 Jul. The delivery date for ZK-NZJ is still showing as 16 Aug.

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Re: New Zealand Aviation thread part 180

Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:00 am

ZKpilot, here's Thread 180. It was on page 2 of the threads. 'Dobbo Dobbo' must have missed it when he posted. This can easily happen under the new set up as the previous thread is not locked.

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Re: New Zealand Aviation thread part 180

Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:30 am

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ZKpilot, here's Thread 180. It was on page 2 of the threads. 'Dobbo Dobbo' must have missed it when he posted. This can easily happen under the new set up as the previous thread is not locked.

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Just a guess, but perhaps not everyone realises you can bookmark these threads. Top right hand corner of the thread click the "star" icon in one of the two boxes and the thread is bookmarked.

By doing so, you get notified (in the little bell beside "welcome") of all new posts made in a thread.

Apologies to those who already know - just trying to help those who don't. There are quite a number of short cuts that took me a wee while to discover.

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Re: New Zealand Aviation thread part 180

Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:52 am

"ZKpilot, here's Thread 180. It was on page 2 of the threads. 'Dobbo Dobbo' must have missed it when he posted. This can easily happen under the new set up as the previous thread is not locked."
Yeah I wondered about that. I used the search box but it didn't come up either.

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Re: New Zealand Aviation thread part 180

Thu Jul 07, 2016 1:05 pm

evanm wrote:
You need not break apart this forum's discussion threads anymore.

ZKNCL wrote:
Agreed. I still think that posting in #179 doesn't seem right though. I propose that we just rename this one to "The New Zealand Aviation Thread" to match the new direction.


I disagree, strongly. I think its better to break up the threads into ~200 reply chunks. Doing so makes searching for a certain part of the thread much easier, especially if the thread opener does a brief summary of everything mentioned in the previous thread. On certain other VBulletin the format of having unlimited pages in a thread makes it nearly impossible to search for something specific.

The issue here is that threads aren't locked automatically after a new one is created. Also, it would be nice if bookmarking one thread would bookmark all future threads.
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Re: New Zealand Aviation thread part 180

Thu Jul 07, 2016 1:31 pm

"Wellington runway fears shot down by Court"

The High Court in Wellington has backed a decision that a 90-metre safety area for an extended Wellington Airport runway is sufficient, turning down a bid by pilots who wanted a review because they didn't regard it as long enough.

Justice Karen Clark yesterday rejected an application for judicial review of the Civil Aviation director's decision by the New Zealand Airline Pilots' Association saying the director didn't make an error in law in reaching the conclusion, nor was the consultation process with the NZAPA inadequate.

The association, which represents about 2,200 pilots and air traffic controllers, sought to have the decision reviewed, claiming the 90-metre runway end safety area was too short and needed to be 240 metres.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news ... d=11670266
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Re: New Zealand Aviation thread part 180

Thu Jul 07, 2016 1:38 pm

PA515 wrote:
ZKpilot, here's Thread 180. It was on page 2 of the threads. 'Dobbo Dobbo' must have missed it when he posted. This can easily happen under the new set up as the previous thread is not locked.

PA515


Apologies to 'DobboDobbo'. Thread 180 was missed by someone else.

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Re: New Zealand Aviation thread part 180

Thu Jul 07, 2016 7:27 pm

Sounds Air is doing something intriguing. They're into real estate development, selling sections at/near Koromiko airfield, halfway between Picton and Blenheim.

The catch is novel - that buyers have to build a house and an aircraft hangar on their section.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/8184728 ... y-for-sale


"Marlborough Sounds Airpark sections ready for sale

A new subdivision in Marlborough that requires homeowners to build a garage for their airplanes is almost complete.

Work on the new Marlborough Sounds Airpark, between Picton and Blenheim, will be finished once developers put in the private tennis court.

The subdivision, being developed by Sounds Air, has 16 sections which come with pre-designed plans for hangars, which the owners construct themselves.

Sounds Air managing director Andrew Crawford said four sections had already been sold, with two hangars built."


Great idea to make some money - I hope it works for them. :-)

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Fri Jul 08, 2016 5:41 pm

[quote="PA515"]Noticed a few days ago that the delivery date for Air NZ 789 ZK-NZI has changed from 15 Jul to 28 Jul. ]

My guess is that NZ do not have a use for it any earlier. If so, leaving the money in the Bank makes sense. So far as -NZJ is concerned do they need it before the 789 takes over the EZE run? Also, I wonder if deliveries of I and J maybe running ahead of crew training?
 
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Fri Jul 08, 2016 5:48 pm

[quote="mariner"]Sounds Air is doing something intriguing. They're into real estate development, selling sections at/near Koromiko airfield, halfway between Picton and Blenheim.

The catch is novel - that buyers have to build a house and an aircraft hangar on their section.

A new subdivision in Marlborough that requires homeowners to build a garage for their airplanes is almost complete.

Work on the new Marlborough Sounds Airpark, between Picton and Blenheim, will be finished once developers put in the private tennis court.

The subdivision, being developed by Sounds Air, has 16 sections which come with pre-designed plans for hangars, which the owners construct themselves.

Sounds Air managing director Andrew Crawford said four sections had already been sold, with two hangars built."[/i]


Sounds ( no pun) like a good way of monetising an asset .
 
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Fri Jul 08, 2016 5:49 pm

[quote="mariner"][color=#000000]Sounds Air is doing something intriguing. They're into real estate development, selling sections at/near Koromiko airfield, halfway between Picton and Blenheim.]



Sounds ( no pun) like a good way of monetising an asset .
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation thread part 180

Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:41 pm

For those of you who wish to monitor AKL-IAH-AKL passenger traffic you may want to bookmark the link below.
For the first 5-months of 2016 AKL outbound load factor was ~93% and inbound AKL ~ 80%.

http://www.fly2houston.com/newsroom/med ... tatistics/
 
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Sat Jul 09, 2016 12:52 am

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For those of you who wish to monitor AKL-IAH-AKL passenger traffic you may want to bookmark the link below.
For the first 5-months of 2016 AKL outbound load factor was ~93% and inbound AKL ~ 80%.

http://www.fly2houston.com/newsroom/med ... tatistics/


Not bad for an new route, hence why its going daily this NW16.
 
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Sat Jul 09, 2016 6:03 pm

[quote="zkncjNot bad for an new route, hence why its going daily this NW16]

A correction, the load factors should have been 86% and 74% respectively. Going daily is a significant increase in capacity, something like 7 to 10 flights a month depending on the month. I find it hard to believe that the present load factors will hold. This suggests to me they may be looking to switch it to a 789 with the increased frequency providing somewhat of an offset for the fewer premium seats per flight .
 
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Sat Jul 09, 2016 6:32 pm

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A correction, the load factors should have been 86% and 74% respectively. Going daily is a significant increase in capacity, something like 7 to 10 flights a month depending on the month. I find it hard to believe that the present load factors will hold. This suggests to me they may be looking to switch it to a 789 with the increased frequency providing somewhat of an offset for the fewer premium seats per flight .


The 772/789 pretty much have the same seat count, although with higher premium seats on the 772. I would of thought due to the length of AKL-IAH the premium seating would be in high demand?

NZ has recently reconfirmed there status on the 789 saying they current configuration isn't right for the North American market.

If anything I could see them trying to pickup 2-4x 77W at short notice is the slots became available.
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation thread part 180

Sat Jul 09, 2016 6:40 pm

Noticed that UA917 is an 789 this morning, through it was mean to be an 788 for the first couple of months?
 
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Sun Jul 10, 2016 1:03 am

[quote="zkncj

NZ has recently reconfirmed there status on the 789 saying they current configuration isn't right for the North American market. ]

You are probably right Do you have a link for this? It raises the question of how they are going to use 9-789's on present routes. For this configuration reason I wonder how suitable the present 789 is for SIN?

[If anything I could see them trying to pickup 2-4x 77W at short notice is the slots became available.[/quote]]

If this happened some 77E's would have to go before 2020. Alternatively some future 789's could be reconfigured for more premium seats. Perhaps this change would make the 789 suitable for HKG.
 
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Sun Jul 10, 2016 2:19 am

sunrisevalley wrote:

You are probably right Do you have a link for this? It raises the question of how they are going to use 9-789's on present routes. For this configuration reason I wonder how suitable the present 789 is for SIN?


http://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/assets/P ... or-Day.pdf

What makes it interesting is the 772 doesn't get mentioned in this graphic, recently NZ seems to like the trend of up-sizing routes.

sunrisevalley wrote:

If this happened some 77E's would have to go before 2020. Alternatively some future 789's could be reconfigured for more premium seats. Perhaps this change would make the 789 suitable for HKG.


4x 772 could be transfers into the short-haul fleet to replace the 763 services, and allow for extra Tasman/Pacific growth. While the 789 might be cheaper to operate its asset cost will be higher, than the 8 year old 772.

4x 772 could be used on:

#1 AKL-SYD-AKL-SYD-AKL
#2 AKL-NAN-AKL-MEL-AKL
#3 AKL-RAR-AKL-BNE-AKL
#4 AKL-CNS-AKL-APW-AKL

Would still give each 772 approximately 12 hours daily usage, around the same that the 763 fleet currently gets.
 
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Sun Jul 10, 2016 3:42 am

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4x 772 could be transfers into the short-haul fleet to replace the 763 services, and allow for extra Tasman/Pacific growth. While the 789 might be cheaper to operate its asset cost will be higher, than the 8 year old 772.


I very much doubt they will do that, when they already do it with the long haul fleet between long haul flights. It will complicate things with sub fleets of what by worldwide standards are small fleets already.

I sometimes wonder however with the trend of upsizing routes weather in 2-3 years time they could reconfigure the 772/789 fleets to reverse what they do now and remove some premium seats from the 772 and add Y seats.

Say something like 772
J 26>18
W 40> 16
Y 246> 316

giving a 350 seat 772 for use on current 789 routes like PVG, HNL etc.

789

J 18>27
W 21> 42
Y 263> 200

And these could be used to build routes like HKG to double daily.

This is probably unlikely but just a thought, the 789 is 20% more efficient than the 772 to PVG in current configuration though, what the numbers would look like with this configuration I don't no. It wouldn't id imagine take to much to reconfigure and could be done at the same time as regular maintenance.

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This suggests to me they may be looking to switch it to a 789 with the increased frequency providing somewhat of an offset for the fewer premium seats per flight .


Not with the current configuration and remember the plan is to take connecting pax away from LAX more towards SFO/IAH so more premium seating is needed while LAX can probably sustain what it already has.

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Noticed that UA917 is an 789 this morning, through it was mean to be an 788 for the first couple of months?


It is a 788, I presume the 789 was planned earlier for this flight or the 788 went U/S. Though I don't think the inbound was delayed so probably planned sub.
 
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Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:17 am

ZK-NBT wrote:
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Noticed that UA917 is an 789 this morning, through it was mean to be an 788 for the first couple of months?


It is a 788, I presume the 789 was planned earlier for this flight or the 788 went U/S. Though I don't think the inbound was delayed so probably planned sub.


https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airc ... 63#a49e15d shows it was a B789
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Sun Jul 10, 2016 7:52 am

zkojq wrote:
I disagree, strongly. I think its better to break up the threads into ~200 reply chunks. Doing so makes searching for a certain part of the thread much easier, especially if the thread opener does a brief summary of everything mentioned in the previous thread. On certain other VBulletin the format of having unlimited pages in a thread makes it nearly impossible to search for something specific.

The issue here is that threads aren't locked automatically after a new one is created. Also, it would be nice if bookmarking one thread would bookmark all future threads.


There is now a search function at the top of every thread ever since the redesign. I would've thought that finding information would be a whole lot easier now as for example you could type in key words to find the particular post/fact. Plus we no longer have to associate any discussion or fact with a memorized thread number. Therefore I believe than an infinite thread is actually the best way forward.

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Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:52 am

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I very much doubt they will do that, when they already do it with the long haul fleet between long haul flights. It will complicate things with sub fleets of what by worldwide standards are small fleets already.


Isn't the 772s already split into two sub fleets anyway? 4x 772 have an 330m ETDO rating while the other 4x don't.

Wouldn't really be an sub fleet as such, more just allocating 4x 772 into the short-haul timetable. Nothing to stop the aircraft doing AKL-SYD-AKL-SYD-AKL-YVR
 
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Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:13 am

zkncj wrote:
ZK-NBT wrote:
I very much doubt they will do that, when they already do it with the long haul fleet between long haul flights. It will complicate things with sub fleets of what by worldwide standards are small fleets already.


Isn't the 772s already split into two sub fleets anyway? 4x 772 have an 330m ETDO rating while the other 4x don't.

Wouldn't really be an sub fleet as such, more just allocating 4x 772 into the short-haul timetable. Nothing to stop the aircraft doing AKL-SYD-AKL-SYD-AKL-YVR


Yes they do. However with EZE going 789 it means the 4 330min ETOPS fleet isn't as stretched.

However NZ already run the 772's YVR-AKL-RAR-AKL-HKG etc so they won't be changing anything. There are 2-3 daily 772's on short haul to a mix of SYD/MEL/BNE/APW/NAN/TBU/RAR.
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation thread part 180

Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:02 am

Early days I know. Does amyone know how AA and UA are performing on the new AKL route?

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[quote="ZK-NBT"]
Isn't the 772s already split into two sub fleets anyway? 4x 772 have an 330m ETDO rating while the other 4x don't. ]
In the interests of accuracy the 77E EDTO rating is 300min not 330. 300-min is all that is needed for AKL-EZE. AKL- IAH requires EDTO 240min and it appears that OKA,OKD,OKG have this rating since they have all been used AKL-IAH within the last 6 weeks.
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation thread part 180

Mon Jul 11, 2016 1:21 pm

Air NZ Beech 1900D ZK-EAJ has left. It flew AKL-NLK on Sun and NLK-OOL yesterday. It has been registered to MAPTRA Corporation of Manila.

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Re: New Zealand Aviation thread part 180

Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:05 am

NZALPA have confirmed they are appealing their loss to force CAA to ensure WLG's runway extension includes a 240m safety zone

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/8212531 ... on-insists
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Re: New Zealand Aviation thread part 180

Fri Jul 15, 2016 6:09 am

Air NZ's website booking page now has AKL-PPT as a 789 from Mon 31 Oct.

Mon AKL-PPT 0955/1555, PPT-AKL 1735/2225
Wed AKL-PPT 0955/1555, PPT-AKL 1735/2225 (eff. 07 Dec)
Fri AKL-PPT 1830/0030, PPT-AKL 0200/0650

Five of the AKL-NAN 0930/1135, NAN-AKL 1255/1700 789 flights have been replaced with 77E / 320. And there's still a 789 available for most of a week, enough for Mon - Fri AKL-SYD 0700/0835, SYD-AKL 0945/1455 and AKL-SYD 1605/1740, SYD-AKL 1850/2359.

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Re: New Zealand Aviation thread part 180

Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:03 am

I've heard a rumour Origin Air is re-launching NSN-PMR services in September using Inflite services
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Re: New Zealand Aviation thread part 180

Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:37 pm

Hi Guys

is there actually a way to find out in advance whether you are on an ATR 72-500 or -600? Or are they randomly routed through the system?

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Re: New Zealand Aviation thread part 180

Sun Jul 17, 2016 2:07 am

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is there actually a way to find out in advance whether you are on an ATR 72-500 or -600? Or are they randomly routed through the system?

Cheers
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Pretty much randomly get send anywhere on the network, you can search your flight number on flight radar usually about 24 hours out you'll be able to see the rego.

Have noticed that the -600 don't come up to AKL, as often as the -500.
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation thread part 180

Sun Jul 17, 2016 3:33 am

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is there actually a way to find out in advance whether you are on an ATR 72-500 or -600? Or are they randomly routed through the system?

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Re: New Zealand Aviation thread part 180

Sun Jul 17, 2016 10:33 am

777ER wrote:
I've heard a rumour Origin Air is re-launching NSN-PMR services in September using Inflite services


http://originair.co.nz/news/

Not just a rumour - they sent me an email about it last week

Doesn't appear that they'll be returning to the NSN-WLG route though
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation thread part 180

Sun Jul 17, 2016 11:08 am

A330NZ wrote:
Not just a rumour - they sent me an email about it last week


That good blog about our smaller airlines Third Level NZ has the Originair news too - and (unrelated) a fun photo of check-in at Taupo Airport:

http://3rdlevelnz.blogspot.co.nz

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I'm guessing the check-in scanner isn't for Sounds. :-)

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Re: New Zealand Aviation thread part 180

Sun Jul 17, 2016 6:25 pm

Anyone know is VA check-in at AKL really only opens 90minutes before departure as per here website? I usually try to avoid them! But can't always be do with the Tasman Alliance since they operate the early morning AKL-MEL, the Air NZ App is telling the check-in closes at 5am for an 0630am flight.

On an side note is VA now the only airline not offering Online Check-in on the Tasman.
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation thread part 180

Sun Jul 17, 2016 9:55 pm

zkncj wrote:
Anyone know is VA check-in at AKL really only opens 90minutes before departure as per here website? I usually try to avoid them! But can't always be do with the Tasman Alliance since they operate the early morning AKL-MEL, the Air NZ App is telling the check-in closes at 5am for an 0630am flight.

On an side note is VA now the only airline not offering Online Check-in on the Tasman.


4-4.30am should be fine. They open similar time to NZ
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Re: New Zealand Aviation thread part 180

Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:11 pm

zkncj & bonzolab: Thanks, guys. I am doing AKL-TRG, NPL and PMR, so no ZQN. Just gotta be lucky I guess... I did my first -600 flight on SK in May, and it was pretty nice and sleek looking inside. You noticed the difference right away.
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation thread part 180

Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:20 pm

zkeoj wrote:
zkncj & bonzolab: Thanks, guys. I am doing AKL-TRG, NPL and PMR, so no ZQN. Just gotta be lucky I guess... I did my first -600 flight on SK in May, and it was pretty nice and sleek looking inside. You noticed the difference right away.


Recently did an AKL-NPE on the -500, then NPE-AKL on the -600. The -600 out did any of the -500 flights, it seems quieter too?

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