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Re: Farnborough Air Show 2016 - Boeing Orders

Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:10 pm

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pabloeing wrote:
Al Baker after his B737MAX visit today:
Qatar CEO Al Baker says he will make a "very, very important announcement" at #FIA16 tomorrow.


Guess he wasn't just bluffing. After delays to the A350, A380, and now the A320, he must be getting fed up. He also was harsh over the 787, but that was just 1 model, not 3. I wonder how fast Boeing can get them some 737 NG's. Guess we will see what all the fuss is about tomorrow.


Cue to 1-2 years from now when Al Baker announces that he wants to cancel the 737s to order MC-21/C919s ;)
 
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Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:16 pm

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Even the remaining freshly built ones will only provide around 2 years of production. It's about time the fanboys accepted that the 747 is dead instead of keep injecting it with morphine.

What, you don't believe in the Great Cargo Rebound of 2018 that Boeing keeps predicting?

It's right up there with the "2 New A380 Customers" that Airbus predicts every year but rarely produces, especially if you subtract off the ones that fall by the wayside.

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Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:42 pm

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Both LN 1535 and LN 1536 are the airframes I referred to above:

Four jets have been delivered already and another two are in final assembly.




KarelXWB, You did not mention LN 1535, you listed LN 1435.
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Re: Farnborough Air Show 2016 - Boeing Orders

Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:49 pm

Boeing sent out a press release that Qatar Airways is launch customer for a 777 Performance Improvement Package (PIP). But it is hard to read what the improvement is really all about. They say it is a superior product that will allow Qatar to open new routes and fly existing routes more effectively. But it does not say by how much the PIP improves the plane. It just say that Boeing will help customers obtain even greater performance from the market leading 777 family. The most specific I have found in the press release is that Boeing is introducing a retrofittable PIP through an unspecified design improvement. Did I miss what they are actually improving, or is something missing from the press release? Link here: http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=20295&item=129727
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Re: Farnborough Air Show 2016 - Boeing Orders

Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:18 pm

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Per the spreadsheet:
747-8XXF 116 1535 RC651 Unallocated


L/N 1535, RC 651 has been assembled with Boeing customer code -7U ( Atlas Air), so we can probably expected also a (small) 747-8F order from Atlas Air.
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Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:23 pm

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Boeing sent out a press release that Qatar Airways is launch customer for a 777 Performance Improvement Package (PIP). But it is hard to read what the improvement is really all about. They say it is a superior product that will allow Qatar to open new routes and fly existing routes more effectively. But it does not say by how much the PIP improves the plane. It just say that Boeing will help customers obtain even greater performance from the market leading 777 family. The most specific I have found in the press release is that Boeing is introducing a retrofittable PIP through an unspecified design improvement. Did I miss what they are actually improving, or is something missing from the press release? Link here: http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=20295&item=129727


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Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:53 pm

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Most of the the Volga 748F order already exist as frames ntu by other customers. No "excellent news for the 747 line" I'm afraid. 747 is dead.


Even if most of the 20 frames had already been built, I'd say "excellent news" - or maybe even more in that case. Excellent news does not necessarily mean a bright future, but it's still excellent news if 20 frames of a type struggling for orders are taken up in a single order!

Well, at least good news ;-)
 
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Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:55 pm

Tomorrow is the day of UX and his 20 B737-8MAX order........
 
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Re: Farnborough Air Show 2016 - Boeing Orders

Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:56 pm

RobK wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
What others would that be? Have a look at this list:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... c_LHjU/pub

- LN 1435: pax plane, not gonna happen
- LN 1437: heavily overweight, not gonna happen (remember, ABC criticized the early 747-8 frames)
- LN 1495: pax plane, not gonna happen
- LN 1519: pax plane, not gonna happen
- LN 1523: pax plane, not gonna happen


I wasn't referring to those obviously, seeing as they're pax.

What about 1530, 1533, 1535? Even the remaining freshly built ones will only provide around 2 years of production. It's about time the fanboys accepted that the 747 is dead instead of keep injecting it with morphine.


There aren't a bunch of -8F NTUs hanging around. For a stretch, there have been some where delivery is coming in the later half of the year, but that isn't uncommon for cargo operators.

1530 and 1533 are both for Silk Way. 1535 is allocated to the Atlas Air customer code, which means that they were most likely behind 2 of the 4 unidentified orders from earlier this year. There was an order for 2 that Volga confirmed about a month or so ago was from them, meaning that they are the other 2 unidentified frames.

So, it would seem that those 2 plus the 2 from 2015 are the 4 that have been firmed, previously. The phrasing in the press release appears to be incorrect, to my eye. It should read that 4 of the 20 frames have already been ordered, and 3 of which have been delivered (1501, 1502, 1520).

Unless they are counting the 2014 frame, 1505, as part of the 2015 PAS MoU as well, in which case it would be 4 delivered, and 5 firmly ordered previously. That would be a bit odd in terms of how things happened, but it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility.

Beyond that, why is it an issue if aviation enthusiasts, which we all are (right?), enjoy the fact that a frame gets some orders.

Edit: Cleaned up the post in terms of grammar and other clarifications
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Re: Farnborough Air Show 2016 - Boeing Orders

Tue Jul 12, 2016 5:08 pm

RobK wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
What others would that be? Have a look at this list:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... c_LHjU/pub

- LN 1435: pax plane, not gonna happen
- LN 1437: heavily overweight, not gonna happen (remember, ABC criticized the early 747-8 frames)
- LN 1495: pax plane, not gonna happen
- LN 1519: pax plane, not gonna happen
- LN 1523: pax plane, not gonna happen


I wasn't referring to those obviously, seeing as they're pax.

What about 1530, 1533, 1535? Even the remaining freshly built ones will only provide around 2 years of production. It's about time the fanboys accepted that the 747 is dead instead of keep injecting it with morphine.

Is 1530 not being taken up by Silk?
 
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Tue Jul 12, 2016 6:12 pm

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Both MOUs and LOIs can be both binding and non-binding depending on how you write them.

https://www.avvo.com/legal-guides/ugc/p ... erstanding

When I initiate a MOU, once the legal department verifies that I do not commit anything, they no longer care about the rest of the content. The only thing they check for is that there is no legally binding text in the MOU, so in my case, no MOU is binding.

I am pretty sure both are non-binding and the term MOU and LOI just depends on legal departments involved.

I understand that in Mergers and acquisitions, the MOU is normally binding and the LOI is not, but that is a different legal area.


Thanks. In my work, the only time I've ever written an MOU was with an agency that was having their resident trouble teenagers checked out at my clinic and they did some things that were problematic for us, so I had to sit down with their management and we came up with an agreement on what we would provide and what they would ask for and that was the MOU. It had nothing to do with acquisitions.
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Re: Farnborough Air Show 2016 - Boeing Orders

Tue Jul 12, 2016 6:44 pm

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Boeing sent out a press release that Qatar Airways is launch customer for a 777 Performance Improvement Package (PIP). But it is hard to read what the improvement is really all about. They say it is a superior product that will allow Qatar to open new routes and fly existing routes more effectively. But it does not say by how much the PIP improves the plane. It just say that Boeing will help customers obtain even greater performance from the market leading 777 family. The most specific I have found in the press release is that Boeing is introducing a retrofittable PIP through an unspecified design improvement. Did I miss what they are actually improving, or is something missing from the press release? Link here: http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=20295&item=129727



http://aviationweek.com/advanced-machin ... ce-upgrade

This here is a pretty good summary. Mostly engine stuff.
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Re: Farnborough Air Show 2016 - Boeing Orders

Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:41 pm

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Most of the the Volga 748F order already exist as frames ntu by other customers. No "excellent news for the 747 line" I'm afraid. 747 is dead.


How many NTU frames were there?

I highly doubt there were 20 frames sitting around NTU, so this represents new orders for 748F, and therefore excellent news for the line. The line isn't dead until Boeing shuts it down.


14 is still a pretty good number. 14 months of production. The A-380 wishes it had 14 new orders at this show.
 
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Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:54 pm

ILNFlyer wrote:
RobK wrote:
Most of the the Volga 748F order already exist as frames ntu by other customers. No "excellent news for the 747 line" I'm afraid. 747 is dead.


14 is still a pretty good number. 14 months of production.


Including the 2 in the FAL now, that would be 17 total new frames that are part of this firming. The three NTUs that they took as part of the MoU are 1501, 1502, and 1520. If the 1505 delivery from late 2014 is considered part of this order, then there will be 16 remaining new builds to be delivered still. If not, then it will be 17. There is only one other -8F NTU, an old Atlas frame, that is one of the earliest batches of the 747-8Fs, so the statement that "most of the Volga 748F order already exist as frames ntu by other customers" is quite incorrect.

Accordingly, it is excellent news, simply because it has come to pass. Many said Volga-Dnepr would never take all 20. As recently as a couple of weeks ago, the rumors were that they would simply be firming 10, 3 or 4 of which were already delivered. So, for the firming to be the full amount can definitely be considered excellent.
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Re: Farnborough Air Show 2016 - Boeing Orders

Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:34 pm

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DocLightning wrote:

http://aviationweek.com/advanced-machin ... ce-upgrade

This here is a pretty good summary. Mostly engine stuff.


Thank you KarelXWB and DocLightning for finding some more detailed information. I remember the discussion here on Airliners, but I would expect Boeing to be e bit more precise in their press release. LOL :-) Engine stuff, and reallocating stuff in the cabin to squeese in more passengers. :)
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Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:56 pm

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It is, even though they are freighters instead of passenger aircraft.

Which is about as good as can be expected. By now it should be clear that the 748i was long since rejected by the overall pax market, in favor of other alternatives.
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Wed Jul 13, 2016 2:31 am

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Which is about as good as can be expected. By now it should be clear that the 748i was long since rejected by the overall pax market, in favor of other alternatives.

After almost 50 years of 747 production I find the 748 is my favorite ride.
 
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Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:40 am

The 747-8 isn't dead yet. She's here to stay.

Any word from Ethiopian or Turkish in the 777X?
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Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:19 am

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The 747-8 isn't dead yet. She's here to stay.

Any word from Ethiopian or Turkish in the 777X?

There was a rumour that Turkish would go for the 777X and the 787...I don.t know if it will announced at Farnborough...I believe Air Europe will announce an order for thr Max today....
 
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Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:11 am

As reported in the Turkish Aviation thread, TK pilots have test flown the A350 in TLS. Carrier may be working on a larger deal, including 787s, A350s and 777s. I do not see it being announced at Farnborough.
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Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:24 am

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Not a new order, previously listed as an unidentified customer
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Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:33 am

Great news about the Air Bridge 748F order, even if awaited sooner or later. 2 years of production from one client, how couldnt that be excellent news?

LAX772LR wrote:
Which is about as good as can be expected. By now it should be clear that the 748i was long since rejected by the overall pax market, in favor of other alternatives.


Nothing new about that, there is absolutely no need to say it again and again. Even in the conception phase 10 years ago Boeing said the 747-8 will be about freighters first. They were and are right about this. Its just the airfreight business crisis (which also hits the 777F) that crosses their plans.
Btw the 748i isnt rejected by the pax, its rejected by airline beancounters, and those alone.

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After almost 50 years of 747 production I find the 748 is my favorite ride.


I agree. Nothing better to fly than in (the front of) a 747! Boeing hasnt been able to top that even after almost 5 decades.
 
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Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:39 am

Lots of rumours about the 777X but so far very little in the way of actual deals.

There is a slow down in large wide body market and we are in the valley between launch orders and real firm specification orders - but I am sure there is a little concern at Boeing at the lack of orders.
 
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Boeing announce 10 new orders and commitments for Boeing converted freighters

http://boeing.mediaroom.com/2016-07-13- ... Freighters
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Btw the 748i isnt rejected by the pax, its rejected by airline beancounters, and those alone.

Ya mean, the ones who actually MATTER in the decision? Imagine that.

If it were up to pax, airlines would still be flying Concordes, Connies, and 741s with oda lounges upstairs. :roll:
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na wrote:
Nothing new about that, there is absolutely no need to say it again and again.

Well, for some reason YOU are the prime example for needlessly saying something again and again. One should have counted all of your posts saying how utterly ugly the 77W is and that it is sooooo old tech. Should be in dozens. :roll:

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Even in the conception phase 10 years ago Boeing said the 747-8 will be about freighters first. They were and are right about this.

Nope. In the first place, Boeing predicted the Intercontinental to sell in higher numbers than the freighter. The predicted mix was two thirds vs. one third pro the pax version.

Boeing expects two third of the 747-8 orders to be for the -8i passenger version.
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na wrote:
Btw the 748i isnt rejected by the pax, its rejected by airline beancounters, and those alone.

Ya mean, the ones who actually MATTER in the decision? Imagine that.

If it were up to pax, airlines would still be flying Concordes, Connies, and 741s with oda lounges upstairs. :roll:


Concordes yes, 747s with Lounges yes because they are as good or even better than the last (technological) cry in air transport. But I doubt any larger number would like to cross the pond in a slow and unreliable Connie;-)
 
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Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:21 am

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na wrote:
Nothing new about that, there is absolutely no need to say it again and again.

Well, for some reason YOU are the prime example for needlessly saying something again and again. One should have counted all of your posts saying how utterly ugly the 77W is and that it is sooooo old tech. Should be in dozens. :roll:

Well, I have a different opinion. Needlessly saying means repeating again and again all agree upon for a long time. That was something I was referring too. What I say about the 77W is another matter, as its quite apparently not needless. Btw I never wrote the 77W is old tech as such as that would be rubbish. I said its old tech in the 2020s, old tech compared to A350-1000 and 77X. Look at some of the major 777 players, they will retiring the 77Ws at pretty young age in favor of 77X. However, the current slowdown in 77X orders might slow down this trend also.

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na wrote:
Even in the conception phase 10 years ago Boeing said the 747-8 will be about freighters first. They were and are right about this.

Nope. In the first place, Boeing predicted the Intercontinental to sell in higher numbers than the freighter. The predicted mix was two thirds vs. one third pro the pax version.

Boeing expects two third of the 747-8 orders to be for the -8i passenger version.
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=455257#p6222701

Ok, thats 8 years ago, cant remember that. But then shortly afterwards Boeing changed their mind, in any case before the first 748 was delivered. So you´re factually right, but still its very, very old "news".
 
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6 Boeing 787-9s for Ruili Airlines of China

http://boeing.mediaroom.com/2016-07-13- ... reamliners
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Wed Jul 13, 2016 10:50 am

Doesn't look like a new order. From the press release:

The order was previously attributed to an unidentified customer on Boeing's Orders & Deliveries website.
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6 Boeing 787-9s for Ruili Airlines of China

http://boeing.mediaroom.com/2016-07-13- ... reamliners


China Eastern called and would like their livery back.

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817Dreamliiner wrote:
6 Boeing 787-9s for Ruili Airlines of China

http://boeing.mediaroom.com/2016-07-13- ... reamliners


How many chinese airlines are there? And how many are gonna order the 789?
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Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:37 am

Nice to see s lot of Chinese airlines ordering a truckload of airplanes..maybe they should consider to order some airports as well....
 
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Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:37 am

Ruili's current livery on their 737s would look awesome on the 787-9, this is just, well never mind.

But they are going to be delivered from 2021, they got enough time to come up with something better, like their current 737 livery.
 
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China Eastern called and would like their livery back.


I wonder why they didn't do the rendering in their full livery.

OA940 wrote:
How many chinese airlines are there?

There are quite a lot, not sure how many exactly

OA940 wrote:
And how many are gonna order the 789?

So far, by my count there will be 6 Chinese airlines with the 787-9

Air China
Hainan
China Eastern
Xiamen
Ruili Airlines
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I wonder why they didn't do the rendering in their full livery.


That is their full livery. They ditched the fuselage swirls for a "cleaner" look. Latest 737 awaiting delivery at Seattle :

https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/27897079811/
 
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817Dreamliiner wrote:
I wonder why they didn't do the rendering in their full livery.


That is their full livery. They ditched the fuselage swirls for a "cleaner" look. Latest 737 awaiting delivery at Seattle :

https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/27897079811/

I see, didn't know that. Thanks
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Boeing announce 10 new orders and commitments for Boeing converted freighters

http://boeing.mediaroom.com/2016-07-13- ... Freighters


From the same article: "An unidentified customer ordered four 767BCFs". With the recent Amazon commitments to Atlas and ATSG, makes me wonder who this is for. These two have been running around grabbing up the retired, available 767 pax frames.
 
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RobK wrote:
817Dreamliiner wrote:
I wonder why they didn't do the rendering in their full livery.


That is their full livery. They ditched the fuselage swirls for a "cleaner" look. Latest 737 awaiting delivery at Seattle :

https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/27897079811/





Won't take the paint shop long to knock out that livery :roll: :roll:
 
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Re: Farnborough Air Show 2016 - Boeing Orders

Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:51 pm

QR is considering an additional order for 777-300/ER's

http://aviationweek.com/shownews/qatar- ... 777-300ers
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Egypt Air orders 9 B737-800s
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Egypt Air orders 9 B737-800s


Already reported up-thread and this is a previous UFO identification, not a new order at the show.
 
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Re: Farnborough Air Show 2016 - Boeing Orders

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Boeing announce order for 2 BBJ MAX 8

http://boeing.mediaroom.com/news-releas ... tem=129733
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Re: Farnborough Air Show 2016 - Boeing Orders

Thu Jul 14, 2016 12:04 pm

Wrap up of the Boeing order announcements:

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Re: Farnborough Air Show 2016 - Boeing Orders

Thu Jul 14, 2016 2:06 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
Wrap up of the Boeing order announcements:


Overall a good show for Boeing also I would say. No large wide body orders but that was already expected.
 
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Re: Farnborough Air Show 2016 - Boeing Orders

Thu Jul 14, 2016 2:40 pm

EPA001 wrote:
Overall a good show for Boeing also I would say. No large wide body orders but that was already expected.


Don't know about you, but an order for 20 of the biggest Boeing has on order, seems pretty large to me - particularly in light of all other wide-body orders placed at the show, Airbus and Boeing combined.

However, 150 aircraft is just a tad more than half of what Airbus announced. And while we all know Airbus likes to stack 'em up for announcement at airshows, in so far as their customers agree to such marketing ploys, Boeing usually does a bit better than that. (PAS2015: 531 vs 371, FAB2014: 496 vs 269, PAS2013: 466 vs 442).

This show will go down as the one with the lowest number of orders in quite a long time.
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Re: Farnborough Air Show 2016 - Boeing Orders

Thu Jul 14, 2016 2:42 pm

B777LRF wrote:
Don't know about you, but an order for 20 of the biggest Boeing has on order, seems pretty large to me - particularly in light of all other wide-body orders placed at the show, Airbus and Boeing combined.


Doesn't look like a traditional firm order though, the press release says "agreement". That sounds like Volga-Dnep will firm them up one by one, depending on market conditions. Or lease some from Boeing Capital.
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Re: Farnborough Air Show 2016 - Boeing Orders

Thu Jul 14, 2016 2:53 pm

So in total 140 new orders as 42 orders were previously unidentified.

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