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Irish 10/16 - Summertime and the flying is easy ...

Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:04 pm

Good afternoon and welcome to our 10th thread of 2016!
Here's the link to the last one if anyone wants to look back: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1335387&start=200
A few highlights (and one or two lowlights as well ...) from the last thread:

- Stobart Air gets EI nod to buy Cityjet.
- Aer Lingus becomes 4-star Airline on Skytrax
- Ryanair and Aer Lingus close to interline agreement
- Kuwait Airways starts using SNN as en route stop from KWI to JFK
- Another month of broken traffic records for DUB
- Waterford loses only commercial service with collapse of VLM
- Aer Lingus's last A319 joins Vueling
- KLM announces two daily DUB service with E-190 - it will be the airline's first scheduled service to DUB in fifty years!
- Qatar to serve DUB from next year
- Hainan Airlines to set up DUB office - possible a precursor to an extension of its MAN service to DUB?

We also look forward to the confirmation of the next t/a service by EI, with MIA expected to be the choice.
 
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Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:04 pm

kaitak wrote:

- Stobart Air gets EI nod to buy Cityjet.

I believe it is the other way around, Cityjet will purchase Stobart.

Also, I hope you keep up the thread renewals around the 200 mark as usual - even with the new layout allowing 200+ responses now. I do like how each new threads keeps the discussion relevant.
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Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:40 pm

kaitak wrote:
- Qatar to serve DUB from next year

We also look forward to the confirmation of the next t/a service by EI, with MIA expected to be the choice.


Have Qatar confirmed they are coming to DUB? They haven't really confirmed it properly. I'm still waiting to see if Auckland is going to commence with Qatar...

I have a blog post ready to go for the new EI transatlantic route... looking forward to hearing what it is.

Meanwhile, hallelujah - the blue and white is back. It's a happy day! :)
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Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:32 am

kaitak wrote:
- Hainan Airlines to set up DUB office - possible a precursor to an extension of its MAN service to DUB?


I have mixed feelings about the potential of this. While I'm massively supportive of a new route to Dublin, the Civil Aviation Administration of China generally only allows one Chinese airline to operate an international route, so once a route is flown another Chinese airline cannot fly the same route. This rule has been used quite strategically and competitively by local carriers to disrupt each other at their hubs. But in Dublin's case this will basically lock out all other Chinese competition on DUB PEK and leave Dublin with a less than ideal tag via MAN.

To be fair there is nothing stopping Hainan deciding to fly PEK-DUB nonstop in the future.
 
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Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:44 am

I just don't see this MAN-DUB tag happening with Hainan, unless it's used as an interim measure to increase MAN capacity as well as open up DUB, before de-linking them (for example increase MAN to daily and use those 3 flights to continue onto DUB, and then de-link later on).

MAN's loads have been a minimum of 86% so far, so, if they were to tag DUB on to the existing 4 weekly flights from MAN, there is not a lot of aircraft to fill for DUB, and generally that 14% would typically be the higher fare buckets anyway.

Add to all this, Hainan don't seem to currently operate many double drop long haul (the ones they do operate are at the China end), so, if Dublin was to be opened by Hainan, I expect it to be a stand alone route.
 
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Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:45 am

If Hainan's route is extended to DUB, it will probably only be the expected additional 3 flights a week as they have indicated a willingness for daily flights ex-MAN. Loads for Hainan ex-MAN are 86%!!
 
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Wed Jul 13, 2016 10:18 am

User001 wrote:
MAN's loads have been a minimum of 86% so far, so, if they were to tag DUB on to the existing 4 weekly flights from MAN, there is not a lot of aircraft to fill for DUB, and generally that 14% would typically be the higher fare buckets anyway.


That's an interesting point.

In 2012 the annual bi-directional IE CN demand was calculated at 30k pax/yr, DUB-PEK was 18k of that
Ignoring the fact that the 14% capacity on Hainan's MAN route will be higher fare buckets / premium cabins that 14% is roughly equal to 8500 seats per year.
That's 28% of all (2012) IE CN demand or 47% of DUB PEK demand. Based on 2012 figures the big carriers on DUB PEK were:
LH 18.8%
KL 18.5%
AF 16.5%
EK 15.4%

Seat/capacity wise the tag via MAN could work if they increased the frequency from x4 weekly to daily. That'd add an extra ~15k seats/yr. I'd still argue that DUB-PEK nonstop is sustainable and that the 2012 figures will have moved on considerably.

P.S. not going to show all my work but calcs are based on a A330-300 with 292 seats
 
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Wed Jul 13, 2016 10:24 am

The tag on wirh MAN or other cities is never going to happen. The airline has little interest in it and relevent bodies will want a direct route.

Its down to a matter of when no if a direct route happens.
 
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Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:37 am

I wonder if we will see a replacement route at WAT .
 
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Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:40 am

Don't know if this intention to restore a service to Cyprus from Dublin has been noted earlier. If so, missed it due to website redesign issues.

http://www.independent.ie/life/travel/t ... 48927.html
 
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Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:49 am

RRTrent wrote:


Excellent news. Will the for 757s stay? If so I think we could be looking at 3 new long haul routes which given the 3 (one new & two restarts) this year would be fantastic
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Thu Jul 14, 2016 11:00 am

Eirules wrote:
RRTrent wrote:


Excellent news. Will the for 757s stay? If so I think we could be looking at 3 new long haul routes which given the 3 (one new & two restarts) this year would be fantastic


This is great to see, but still no A321neo order? Seeing today's DY order conversion for 30 A321neoLR aircraft does not bode well for any future potential EI ops!
 
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Thu Jul 14, 2016 11:03 am

RRTrent wrote:


Any indications yet of delivery dates?
 
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Thu Jul 14, 2016 11:35 am

Eirules wrote:
RRTrent wrote:


Excellent news. Will the for 757s stay? If so I think we could be looking at 3 new long haul routes which given the 3 (one new & two restarts) this year would be fantastic


I think this has changed all previous route speculation! Incredible News!

Gate congestion will be a big problem next year. Any news on accelerated plans for the new T2 pier?

I think MIA/DFW and even LAS could be added next year.
 
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Thu Jul 14, 2016 12:04 pm

stratocruiser wrote:
Any indications yet of delivery dates?


I would guess the middle of next year... but that's pure speculation. I did read on another forum about a possible March delivery
 
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Thu Jul 14, 2016 12:23 pm

Is there any point in speculating that a new route could be launched to somewhere outside of North America? JNB, PEK, PVG, HKG etc?
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Thu Jul 14, 2016 12:42 pm

I don't think JNB is going to be the route. EI codeshares with BA on that route as far as I know. I think if Ei wanted to go to those destinations it would be on BA metal
 
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Thu Jul 14, 2016 12:48 pm

Eirules wrote:
Is there any point in speculating that a new route could be launched to somewhere outside of North America? JNB, PEK, PVG, HKG etc?


Not for these airframes. The following is the IAG announcement on the 2 A330s

AER LINGUS LONGHAUL AIRCRAFT ORDER

International Airlines Group (IAG) is converting two Airbus 330-300 longhaul aircraft options into firm orders for Aer Lingus.

These aircraft will be delivered in 2017 and will facilitate expansion on Aer Lingus' transatlantic network.

The modern, fuel efficient aircraft will bring both cost efficiencies and environmental benefits to the airline. These A330 options were first announced in September 2014
 
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Thu Jul 14, 2016 12:54 pm

VFRonTop wrote:
Eirules wrote:
Is there any point in speculating that a new route could be launched to somewhere outside of North America? JNB, PEK, PVG, HKG etc?


Not for these airframes. The following is the IAG announcement on the 2 A330s

AER LINGUS LONGHAUL AIRCRAFT ORDER

International Airlines Group (IAG) is converting two Airbus 330-300 longhaul aircraft options into firm orders for Aer Lingus.

These aircraft will be delivered in 2017 and will facilitate expansion on Aer Lingus' transatlantic network.

The modern, fuel efficient aircraft will bring both cost efficiencies and environmental benefits to the airline. These A330 options were first announced in September 2014


Disappointing! Haha I'm just getting greedy, 2 new aircraft and a couple of new routes when not that long ago the EI transatlantic map consisted of just JFK, BOS & ORD
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Thu Jul 14, 2016 12:54 pm

Wondering what this means for the A350 order(if anything)?
 
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Thu Jul 14, 2016 1:08 pm

cc47 wrote:
I don't think JNB is going to be the route. EI codeshares with BA on that route as far as I know. I think if Ei wanted to go to those destinations it would be on BA metal

I agree there's an estimated ~5000 pax demand between DUB and JNB annually. Far better to feed via LHR & MAD once IB start their service.

Eirules wrote:
not that long ago the EI transatlantic map consisted of just JFK, BOS & ORD

Amazing isn't it - I think EI is entering in to a very exciting time over the next few months and years.

EIBoston wrote:
Wondering what this means for the A350 order(if anything)?

I suspect IAG will quietly send these to BA. The A330 is a proven airframe that EI know inside out. I expect the strategy will be to add capacity through increaded frequencies via additional airframes not through larger aircraft
 
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Thu Jul 14, 2016 1:20 pm

dstc47 wrote:
Don't know if this intention to restore a service to Cyprus from Dublin has been noted earlier. If so, missed it due to website redesign issues.

http://www.independent.ie/life/travel/t ... 48927.html


Yes I and Cypriot member mentioned it a while back maybe a few others also. They started last week. I do wonder how long it will last though. Wish them well as Cyprus is well under served from Ireland where as we used to have LCA and PFO with Gerry McMahon for those that remember him!
 
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Thu Jul 14, 2016 1:58 pm

South Africa probably isn't as daft as it initially may appear. IAG is hugely strong in ZA due to the Comair operation, hubbed at JNB but with a big presence at CPT too. BA send the A380 and a 747 daily to JNB, with additional 747s in the northern summer peak and Christmas. CPT is 2x daily 747 from LHR and 3x week from LGW. There is good demand in the Northern winter, so it might be a good way for EI to use excess capacity in the "off season". Utilisation is poor though, most airlines tend to fly red-eyes both ways. Utilisation would be even worse for EI, unless they did a daylight southbound.
There are also very many South Africans who outright refuse to fly SAA, it's a shambles by all accounts.
 
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Thu Jul 14, 2016 2:21 pm

RRTrent wrote:
stratocruiser wrote:
Any indications yet of delivery dates?


I would guess the middle of next year... but that's pure speculation. I did read on another forum about a possible March delivery


Hopefully, unlike this year, they will arrive in time for the peak summer months. The acquisition of two more additional A330s leaves open the possibility of two or more new destinations, although I have a feeling we might just see one (probably MIA) with expansion on existing routes, particularly if the 757 to YYZ is going to be replaced by an A330 as some seem to suggest. Waiting with bated breath for the routes announcement, whenever that is going to come!
 
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Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:46 pm

Hi all, long time reader, first time poster.
Is it possible the 2 new A333's could be used to replace older A332's? LAX and DAA must be close to 17/16 years old respectively and the newer A333's can do the jobs for which the A332's were originally acquired. I thought I saw a slide from an EI presentation which mention A330 retirements.
 
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Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:53 am

Technician who took call while refuelling aircraft at Dublin Airport was fairly dismissed, tribunal rules

The Employment Appeals Tribunal found the decision to fire Joseph Doyle after an incident in 2014 was proportionate
A tribunal has found that a fuel technician who took a call on his mobile phone while refuelling an aircraft at Dublin Airport was fairly dismissed.

In a split decision, the Employment Appeals Tribunal (EAT) has found that the decision by Hoyer Engineering Ltd to fire Joseph Doyle was proportionate.

The majority view of the EAT states: “Nobody is allowed to have a mobile phone in their possession when in the refuelling zone. The potential consequences, supported by science, could be catastrophic, if fuel were to ignite and passengers were onboard the aircraft.”

http://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-ne ... g-11615596

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Belfast City Airport Awards ATC Contract to NATS

George Best Belfast City Airport (IATA: BHD) has announced that NATS became its new its new air traffic services provider with effect from July 1. It is the first time the airport has awarded a contract for air traffic control services to an external company, with NATS beating bids from Air Navigation Services and the Swedish air traffic control provider, LFV.
NATS, which manages air traffic services at 13 other UK airports, will now take responsibility for the safety and efficiency of the airport’s 42,000 annual arrivals and departures, having provided engineering services to the airport since 2007.

http://www.airportsinternational.com/20 ... nats/17826
 
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Fri Jul 15, 2016 3:47 pm

Iolarei wrote:
Hi all, long time reader, first time poster.
Is it possible the 2 new A333's could be used to replace older A332's?


Hi lolarei and welcome to airliners.net I hope this is the first of many posts and you stay around for all the excitement.

All comments form both IAG and Aer Lingus have been that these airframes will facilitate expansion on Aer Lingus' transatlantic network so I don't expect we will see them replace the older A332s. That said they are getting long in the tooth and I expect there is another announcement coming regarding this is the not too distant future
 
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Fri Jul 15, 2016 3:55 pm

Historic day as Ireland West Airport and Knock Shrine welcome first Transatlantic Pilgrimage Flight from Boston

http://irelandwestairport.com/utility/n ... spx?id=396

There are some videos posted on YouTube of the arrival. Pity about the weather, looks like a bleak midwinter day. Funny to see some of the passengers disembarking in shorts and flip flops.
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Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:00 am

styles9002 wrote:
Historic day as Ireland West Airport and Knock Shrine welcome first Transatlantic Pilgrimage Flight from Boston

http://irelandwestairport.com/utility/n ... spx?id=396

There are some videos posted on YouTube of the arrival. Pity about the weather, looks like a bleak midwinter day. Funny to see some of the passengers disembarking in shorts and flip flops.


I'm pretty sure this happened last year and it also had scheduled Atlantic flights for a period by FlyGlobeSpan a while back.
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Sat Jul 16, 2016 11:36 am

United have revisited the idea of operating the second daily EWR flight for winter and will not drop for the season but upgrade the daily EWR to B764 or B772. 772 ops from 19 December-15 February and 28 February-8 March

IAD may have some freq changes.

Planned to run from 29 October to 8 March before two daily returns.

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... =hootsuite
After all the growth from other US carriers it's great to see UA respond with something.
 
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Sat Jul 16, 2016 1:34 pm

JAmie2k9 wrote:
United have revisited the idea of operating the second daily EWR flight for winter and will not drop for the season but upgrade the daily EWR to B764 or B772. 772 ops from 19 December-15 February and 28 February-8 March

IAD may have some freq changes.

Planned to run from 29 October to 8 March before two daily returns.

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... =hootsuite
After all the growth from other US carriers it's great to see UA respond with something.


Interesting to see the 777 being operated for January. The Christmas period and the St Patrick's holiday makes sense. I wonder if we will see the 777 stick around for the summer season.

Is this the first time UA/CO has a scheduled 777 into DUB?

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On a separate note, does anyone know how the DL 767 upgrade on the JFK-SNN route is performing?
 
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Sat Jul 16, 2016 1:48 pm

EI121 wrote:
JAmie2k9 wrote:
United have revisited the idea of operating the second daily EWR flight for winter and will not drop for the season but upgrade the daily EWR to B764 or B772. 772 ops from 19 December-15 February and 28 February-8 March

IAD may have some freq changes.

Planned to run from 29 October to 8 March before two daily returns.

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... =hootsuite
After all the growth from other US carriers it's great to see UA respond with something.


Interesting to see the 777 being operated for January. The Christmas period and the St Patrick's holiday makes sense. I wonder if we will see the 777 stick around for the summer season.

Is this the first time UA/CO has a scheduled 777 into DUB?

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On a separate note, does anyone know how the DL 767 upgrade on the JFK-SNN route is performing?


A quiet period where EI pull back some JFK capacity but UA should do well. It's also a 3 class 777 operating.

I think it a B764 may stay if they have the capacity, they are receiving a few B787's in 2017 while the first B773 arrives this year

DL out of SNN Y doing well but J is varied but it's holding up rather well and I'm sure DL know it's a heavily Y dependent route and J numbers were unlikely a reason for upgrade. Would be surprised if it does not return in 2017.

CSO stats on numbers will be good to see the next gain in passengers but they are a few months away.
 
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Sat Jul 16, 2016 1:53 pm

Could one of the A333s coming to EI next year be used on the SNN-BOS route for the summer season? Surely the OY 762 hire-in was only ever a temporary solution?
 
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Could one of the A333s coming to EI next year be used on the SNN-BOS route for the summer season? Surely the OY 762 hire-in was only ever a temporary solution?


More chance of A330 on the 07.50 JFK I would say, would be surprised if they returned to SNN.
 
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AmricanShamrok wrote:
Could one of the A333s coming to EI next year be used on the SNN-BOS route for the summer season? Surely the OY 762 hire-in was only ever a temporary solution?


More chance of A330 on the 07.50 JFK I would say, would be surprised if they returned to SNN.
 
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Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:28 pm

JAmie2k9 wrote:
AmricanShamrok wrote:
Could one of the A333s coming to EI next year be used on the SNN-BOS route for the summer season? Surely the OY 762 hire-in was only ever a temporary solution?


More chance of A330 on the 07.50 JFK I would say, would be surprised if they returned to SNN.


I am not sure about the 330 on the 102/103 rotation. There is a lot of competition on the NYC routes. Even in this busy summer season, they are don't have the 102/103 on Tuesdays and instead send the 757 on the 104/105 that day.

The OY 762 service is a terrible solution and product. Lots of complaints out there from folks who were expecting an EI plane. But agree don't see a 330 returning to SNN anytime soon.
 
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Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:42 pm

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The OY 762 service is a terrible solution and product. Lots of complaints out there from folks who were expecting an EI plane. But agree don't see a 330 returning to SNN anytime soon.


Apparently 1 of the new A333 will allow for the retirement of an A332, with the other 3 new A333s being used to launch new routes and to add frequencies on existing routes (DUB-BOS would surely be the main contender here!).
 
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EIBoston wrote:
JAmie2k9 wrote:
AmricanShamrok wrote:
Could one of the A333s coming to EI next year be used on the SNN-BOS route for the summer season? Surely the OY 762 hire-in was only ever a temporary solution?


More chance of A330 on the 07.50 JFK I would say, would be surprised if they returned to SNN.


I am not sure about the 330 on the 102/103 rotation. There is a lot of competition on the NYC routes. Even in this busy summer season, they are don't have the 102/103 on Tuesdays and instead send the 757 on the 104/105 that day
The OY 762 service is a terrible solution and product. Lots of complaints out there from folks who were expecting an EI plane. But agree don't see a 330 returning to SNN anytime soon.


I'm not either but would be really shocked if they returned them to SNN. The reason the Tuesday cancellation is to facilitate extra ORD afternoon service on Tuesdays. There is a lot of competition but EI would have both extra ORD and 102/103 to JFK operating if it was possible.

321neo wrote:
EIBoston wrote:
The OY 762 service is a terrible solution and product. Lots of complaints out there from folks who were expecting an EI plane. But agree don't see a 330 returning to SNN anytime soon.


Apparently 1 of the new A333 will allow for the retirement of an A332, with the other 3 new A333s being used to launch new routes and to add frequencies on existing routes (DUB-BOS would surely be the main contender here!).


EI-LAX is the oldest in the fleet so it might be it.
 
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Sat Jul 16, 2016 5:34 pm

Hi all, sorry for not posting a lot recently. I just wish to let everybody know that EI-DEI, one of the Irish Rugby A320s is currently based in Cork. This is the first time in their year of being with EI this has happened
 
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Sat Jul 16, 2016 11:07 pm

[quote="JAmie2k9"] 772 ops from 19 December-15 February and 28 February-8 March

Amadeus shows the B772 commencing on 16 December from EWR to DUB.

Regardless, very interesting upgauge. Is this the only scheduled F class option into DUB on the transatlantic?
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Amadeus shows the B772 commencing on 16 December from EWR to DUB.

Regardless, very interesting upgauge. Is this the only scheduled F class option into DUB on the transatlantic?


AFAIK they are not currently selling that cabin on those B772 operated flights so either they will not offer it or they will decide to sell it later.
 
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Most if not all UA 772 flights out of EWR are on the PMCO 2 class 772's.
 
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Re: Irish 10/16 - Summertime and the flying is easy ...

Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:23 pm

usairways85 wrote:
Most if not all UA 772 flights out of EWR are on the PMCO 2 class 772's.


Website showing 3 class on most dates

OA260 wrote:
styles9002 wrote:
Amadeus shows the B772 commencing on 16 December from EWR to DUB.

Regardless, very interesting upgauge. Is this the only scheduled F class option into DUB on the transatlantic?


AFAIK they are not currently selling that cabin on those B772 operated flights so either they will not offer it or they will decide to sell it later.


Was bookable on UA yesterday with fares for around 1,850 with J been around 950 each way.
 
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Re: Irish 10/16 - Summertime and the flying is easy ...

Sun Jul 17, 2016 2:02 pm

usairways85 wrote:
Most if not all UA 772 flights out of EWR are on the PMCO 2 class 772's.


The ones I looked at were 3 class on the seat map but only selling 2 cabin. Hence my suspicion that they may only sell 2 classes on certain flights/dates. There seems to be some dates where it is on sale and some not even though the seatmap shows a F cabin. Maybe those will revert to a 2 class config later.
 
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Re: Irish 10/16 - Summertime and the flying is easy ...

Sun Jul 17, 2016 3:27 pm

Have two EI flights next weekend and I can't manage my booking via the app. Am I missing something or is it not possible?
 
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Re: Irish 10/16 - Summertime and the flying is easy ...

Sun Jul 17, 2016 11:38 pm

Apparently 1 of the new A333 will allow for the retirement of an A332, with the other 3 new A333s being used to launch new routes and to add frequencies on existing routes (DUB-BOS would surely be the main contender here!).[/quote]

All official PR info says that the order for the two A330s will bring the fleet to twelve, this means no replacement of existing aircraft
 
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Re: Irish 10/16 - Summertime and the flying is easy ...

Sun Jul 17, 2016 11:49 pm

My mistake. I really didn't think UA had started to circulate the 3-class PMUA 772's through EWR.
 
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Re: Irish 10/16 - Summertime and the flying is easy ...

Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:16 am

I had a quick trip over to LHR on Friday with EI to go to Farnborough. I stepped off the shuttle bus from the car park at 5:45am and at 6:07am I was buckling my seatbelt, that must be a record.

Got delayed in LHR on the way back, I'm guessing it was a tech issue as the aircraft was on stand on time. It didn't bother me at all tho and I just sat with a coffee staring out the window in T2. If your going to be delayed, LHR isn't a bad spot to spend an hour or so. The flight back was on EI-FNJ which still has the Vueling cabin and I'll be honest... its more comfy that the EI offering, I'm 6ft and had plenty of legroom. Once gripe I have is it took an hour to board on the way back.

I don't fly EI as much as I'd like, but all in all another very good experience flying them.

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