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Domestic widebodies to Hawaii?

Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:07 pm

I know that American Airlines operates a 767 service from Dallas to Maui and Hawaiian of course operate the A330 and 767 to and from the mainland, but does anyone know of any other widebody aircraft that operate the domestic service from continental US to any of the Hawaiian Islands?
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Re: Domestic widebodies to Hawaii?

Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:13 pm

Virtually all flights from the Mainland U.S. to Hawaii outside of the West Coast are widebodies. There are exceptions, like AA's 757s from PHX to HNL/OGG/KOA/LIH and United DEN-OGG/KOA. But otherwise, it's pretty much all 767s, 777s and A330s. Plus, of course, widebodies are scheduled on some flights from the West Coast to Hawaii, too.
 
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Re: Domestic widebodies to Hawaii?

Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:27 pm

Delta has an A330 from ATL and 767-300s from SLC and LAX to HNL. I believe SLC goes to an A330 this fall. MSP/JFK-HNL (seasonal routes) are also 767s.
 
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Re: Domestic widebodies to Hawaii?

Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:38 pm

Aren't all of Hawaiian's current flights from the Mainland to the Islands widebodies? At least until the 321's show up.
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Re: Domestic widebodies to Hawaii?

Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:56 pm

This is probably not all true for year-round, but this is what I'm see right now:

UA
SFO-HNL 1.7x 772 (UA1175 has 2 flights/week on 752s)
ORD-HNL 1x 772
DEN-HNL 1x 772
EWR-HNL 1x 764
IAH-HNL 1x 772
LAX-HNL 1x 772

DL
ATL-HNL 1x A333
LAX-HNL 1x 763
ATL-SLC-HNL 1x 763

AA
DFW-HNL 2x 763
DFW-OGG 2x 763

HA (Theres too many so heres a list, all on 332 or 763)
LAX-HNL SFO-HNL OAK-HNL SJC-HNL SMF-HNL SEA-HNL LAS-HNL JFK-HNL PHX-HNL PDX-HNL
SAN-HNL LAX-OGG SFO-OGG OAK-OGG SJC-OGG LAX-KOA LAX-LIH OAK-LIH

Reminder that Hawaii is a winter destination, so theres definitely more wide bodies at Christmas (off the top of my head: MSP/JFK-HNL on DL, pretty sure ATL-HNL is going 744 this winter too and HA adds some secondaries to OAK/LAX)
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Re: Domestic widebodies to Hawaii?

Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:52 am

AA also usually upgauges at least one of the LAX-HNL frequencies to the 763 during peak times as well. You'll also seem them sub in occasionally as well on the same route.
 
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Re: Domestic widebodies to Hawaii?

Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:47 pm

Is ir possible to include AC widebodies in the mix even though it wouldnt be considered domestic?
 
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Re: Domestic widebodies to Hawaii?

Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:56 pm

nikeson13 wrote:
AA
DFW-HNL 2x 763
DFW-OGG 2x 763


AA also runs a third DFW-HNL on Saturdays during peak summer season. Additionally, AA will be running daily DFW-KOA on a 763 during the upcoming peak holiday season (15 Dec-8 Jan), and depending on how this route does, I personally wouldn't be surprised to see it return as a more regular season flight during other peak seasons (spring break and summer) as well.
 
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Re: Domestic widebodies to Hawaii?

Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:59 pm

XLA2008 wrote:

OP you must live in an AA hub city :)

nikeson13 wrote:
UA
SFO-HNL 1.7x 772 (UA1175 has 2 flights/week on 752s)
ORD-HNL 1x 772
DEN-HNL 1x 772
EWR-HNL 1x 764
IAH-HNL 1x 772
LAX-HNL 1x 772

There is also ORD-OGG on a 772 and IAD-HNL on 764. GUM-HNL operates on a 772 which strictly is domestic although probably not what OP intended.

Looks like you got all of them for AA and DL.
 
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Re: Domestic widebodies to Hawaii?

Sun Jul 24, 2016 1:28 pm

DL also operates an A333, seasonally, on MSP-HNL.
 
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Re: Domestic widebodies to Hawaii?

Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:07 pm

commavia wrote:
nikeson13 wrote:
AA
DFW-HNL 2x 763
DFW-OGG 2x 763


AA also runs a third DFW-HNL on Saturdays during peak summer season. Additionally, AA will be running daily DFW-KOA on a 763 during the upcoming peak holiday season (15 Dec-8 Jan), and depending on how this route does, I personally wouldn't be surprised to see it return as a more regular season flight during other peak seasons (spring break and summer) as well.



Wow didn't know that about AA's planned nonstop DFW-KOA service during the holidays. Thank you for sharing; I just booked a ticket on this route today after reading your post. Hopefully it proves popular for AA and they add it during other peak times. Sure beats connecting at LAX or HNL! I had always wondered why they never tried serving KOA from DFW. Or even try a DFW-OGG-KOA-DFW triangle like United used to do from Chicago.
 
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Re: Domestic widebodies to Hawaii?

Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:02 am

OzarkD9S wrote:
Aren't all of Hawaiian's current flights from the Mainland to the Islands widebodies? At least until the 321's show up.


HA could add some west coast-LIH flights that may be a little thin for year round 763's. Maybe ITO as well. There will be 321 flights to some of the secondary destinations on the west coast, especially to OGG, KOA.
 
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Re: Domestic widebodies to Hawaii?

Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:22 am

Thanks for all the great information!!! It's a shame they are all HNL I fly into Maui a lot and it's either HA A330/767 or AA 767 was hoping their might be something different to fly in on! But guess I will have to go through HNL if I wanna mix things up!
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Re: Domestic widebodies to Hawaii?

Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:31 pm

nikeson13 wrote:
Reminder that Hawaii is a winter destination, so theres definitely more wide bodies at Christmas (off the top of my head: MSP/JFK-HNL on DL, pretty sure ATL-HNL is going 744 this winter too and HA adds some secondaries to OAK/LAX)

While xmas is indeed the busier time, Hawaii really has 2 peak seasons: Winter and Summer.
Families tend to travel to Hawaii during the Summer school vacation which is why you're seeing so many widebodies now.
 
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Re: Domestic widebodies to Hawaii?

Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:19 pm

Yeah, I think necessity dictates the use of a wide body once you get more than 500 or 700 miles inland from the west coast. No diversion points for fuel after you get past the coast, so you need to be doubly sure that you've got plenty of dino juice to make it (or be prepared to swim). So, 767, A330 et al reign.

I guess you could do DFW-HNL on a 757, but you'd have to make a fuel divert decision 1/2 way into the flight.
 
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Re: Domestic widebodies to Hawaii?

Thu Jul 28, 2016 2:16 pm

nikeson13 wrote:
This is probably not all true for year-round, but this is what I'm see right now:


HA (Theres too many so heres a list, all on 332 or 763)
LAX-HNL SFO-HNL OAK-HNL SJC-HNL SMF-HNL SEA-HNL LAS-HNL JFK-HNL PHX-HNL PDX-HNL
SAN-HNL LAX-OGG SFO-OGG OAK-OGG SJC-OGG LAX-KOA LAX-LIH OAK-LIH

Reminder that Hawaii is a winter destination, so theres definitely more wide bodies at Christmas (off the top of my head: MSP/JFK-HNL on DL, pretty sure ATL-HNL is going 744 this winter too and HA adds some secondaries to OAK/LAX)


Also OAK-KOA

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