CAK and CLE are in the same market. Odds are any CAK closures would probably be spread out to CLE (or even a closer market like PIT) before CVG. Those pax aren't going to travel to CVG. WN could probably offer ATL service to both (CLE/CVG) markets, it's not an either/or situation.
I never suggested anyone from CAK would travel to CVG, that is foolish. Yes, DAY and CVG have some overlap. CAK passengers will be lost as a result of NK setting up shop at CAK. WN already serves ATL from PIT and I doubt they would add 3 more flights to ATL in lieu of CAK. There must be a reason WN has not offered CLE - ATL. The point I was getting at is that both DAY and CAK serve single markets with WN. Pull the resources from both and place them at CVG and add a few more pieces in order to compete with DL and some of the other LCCs that have set up shop there.
I'm just suggesting they could move the plane. DAY and CVG are cross-substitutes, though.
yes. That is what I was getting at as well.
If/when WN sets up at CVG, it makes sense to close DAY, and allocate enough resources for multiple flights a day to key destinations. WN already has a lot of resources tied up with 733 retirements and international growth and this is a way to offer a market with more business travel than DAY or CAK have combined.
Agree to disagree.
CAK and CLE aren't separate markets like you are trying to argue, there's very little overlap between each operations. If ATL is moving the most likely spot is CLE not CVG.
And if it's such a profitable idea to compete with DL at CVG why has it taken WN sooooooo long to enter the market after the downsizing to a DL hublet? Maybe it's not as easy or as profitable as you want to see it.
All I said was that both CAK and DAY have WN service to a single destination. You're the one who has gone on and on about CAK/CLE and DAY/CVG each being a common market, which I agree with.
Since your unable to understand what I've posted, I'm simply suggesting WN redeploy their aircraft assets to other markets. Out of CAK and DAY and in to wherever. CVG happens to be a market that they don't serve, and has more business and leisure traffic than CAK. If CAK is closed, DAY makes sense to close as well, to instead focus on CLE and CVG.
Just because an existing flight is pulled from CAK, doesn't mean it has to go to CLE or PIT. The projected traffic and yields among other things are taken into account when redploying the resources.
If WN enters CVG against DL, they will need to offer 10+ flights a day in order to get the loyal DL travelers to switch. CVG still sees multiple daily frequencies to key markets and offers solid 1 stop options across all DL hubs. If WN cannot offer something similar, free bags and no change fees won't be enough to convince people to switch. I'd also expect DL to match fares, and schedule planes with IFE.
I say this having lived in Ohio, and having worked for multiple F500s and traveling for business out of CVG.
By all means, tell me how I'm wrong again.