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New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 181

Tue Aug 09, 2016 9:58 am

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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 181

Tue Aug 09, 2016 10:35 am

"Air NZ soars - Jetstar dives in TripAdvisor poll"

Air New Zealand has been rated one of the world's top three airlines by TripAdvisor.

The travel review website recently gave its users the option of rating their flight as well as accommodation.

Britain's Telegraph newspaper drilled down into the numbers, ignoring the airlines that had received fewer than 400 TripAdvisor reviews to leave a total of 66 carriers.

Of those 66, 16 had an average rating of 4.5 stars out of five.

Dubai-based Emirates came out on top, with 67.5 per cent of its reviews being five-star.

Singapore Airlines came second (64.2 per cent), followed by Air New Zealand, with 60.6 per cent.

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Tue Aug 09, 2016 11:47 am

ZKOJH wrote:
"Air NZ soars - Jetstar dives in TripAdvisor poll"

Air New Zealand has been rated one of the world's top three airlines by TripAdvisor.

The travel review website recently gave its users the option of rating their flight as well as accommodation.

Britain's Telegraph newspaper drilled down into the numbers, ignoring the airlines that had received fewer than 400 TripAdvisor reviews to leave a total of 66 carriers.

Of those 66, 16 had an average rating of 4.5 stars out of five.

Dubai-based Emirates came out on top, with 67.5 per cent of its reviews being five-star.

Singapore Airlines came second (64.2 per cent), followed by Air New Zealand, with 60.6 per cent.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/air-new-zeala ... d=11689591


I always take tripadvisor with a very large bag of salt (I don't know what grade, but... coarse). People usually only feel compelled to review on trip advisor if a) they thought it was really good, or b) they thought it was terrible/not worth it/not what previous reviews had said.
 
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Thu Aug 11, 2016 1:26 pm

In a CAPA article today it has been reported that AirAsia X may serve AKL non-stop in 2017 and serve other NZ destinations via Australia

AirAsia X may also pursue expansion in the New Zealand market in 2017. Mr De said that upgrading Auckland to nonstop is under consideration, along with launching services to other destinations in New Zealand from Australia.

AirAsia X briefly served Christchurch in 2011 and 2012. The route was served nonstop from Kuala Lumpur, but the Feb-2011 Christchurch earthquake impacted demand. Serving Christchurch via Gold Coast while upgrading Auckland – a much larger market – to nonstop could be an appealing option.

Mr De told CAPA TV that AirAsia X had been “pleasantly surprised” by its performance in the Auckland market since daily Gold Coast-Auckland service was launched in Mar-2016. He said that initial loads had been high, and the sector has a “very diverse” passenger mix with strong sales from Gold Coast, Auckland, Kuala Lumpur and markets beyond Malaysia.

To leverage the AirAsia network beyond Kuala Lumpur fully a nonstop service is needed. “We are looking at growing nonstop New Zealand. At the same time we think the trans-Tasman sector is underserved. There’s a lot of city pairs that are exciting for our network planning team to explore that could see AirAsia X flying”, he said.


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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 181

Sat Aug 13, 2016 4:25 pm

ZK-MVM on delivery as SXI1629. About 1 hr 20 mins to go on NAG-PEN.
http://www.flightradar24.com/SXI1629/aa8d267

Also ZK-MVN is c/n 1353 F-WWEM.
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 181

Mon Aug 15, 2016 6:40 pm

ZK-OKP went AKL-QPG as NZ6018 yesterday for what must be the repaint.

And ZK-MVM went PEN-DPS yesterday as SXI1629 instead of the usual delivery route of PEN-KOE.

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Tue Aug 16, 2016 8:01 pm

A good article about Sounds Air. It doesn't tell us a lot that's new, but it's interesting to me to read about their attitude:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/8320677 ... f-aviation

"Charting its own course: Marlborough airline Sounds Air is flying high in the cut-throat world of aviation"

It also says they are bidding on a government contract - although not where. Hope they get it.

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Wed Aug 17, 2016 5:21 am

ZK-MVM is almost in Christchurch
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Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:22 am

Hi Guys

I have a question regarding a registration again. At the Tauranga Classic Flyers Museum is a F86F Sabre (http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/ph ... 74524.html), and I have seen three different registrations for it:

51-13496
52-2190

And on the aircraft itself is FU910, and serial number 512910. So I assume the above are serial numbers and not registrations, but again, there are three different ones. How do I know which one is correct - most likely the one on the aircraft? Thanks for your help :-)

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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 181

Fri Aug 19, 2016 7:25 am

ZK-MVN departed TLS about 40 mins ago on delivery as SXI1642.

http://www.flightradar24.com/SXI1642/ab8debd

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Fri Aug 19, 2016 8:11 am

Will Eagle Airways (ANZ Link) close in a week or will they still be active as a company with an AOC?
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 181

Fri Aug 19, 2016 10:22 am

Is the last scheduled B1900 flight NZ2106 PMR-HLZ on Friday 26th?
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 181

Sat Aug 20, 2016 12:54 am

PA515 wrote:
ZK-MVN departed TLS about 40 mins ago on delivery as SXI1642.

http://www.flightradar24.com/SXI1642/ab8debd

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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 181

Sat Aug 20, 2016 6:39 am

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Link not working


The link was working for the TLS-HBE as 'ab8debd'. It's now 'abba0ce' for AAN-NAG.
ZK-MVN is over MCT and will soon be out of FR24 receiver range for about an hour.

http://www.flightradar24.com/SXI1642/abba0ce

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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 181

Sat Aug 20, 2016 6:53 am

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ZK-MVN is over MCT and will soon be out of FR24 receiver range for about an hour.

Then again maybe not. There's a new FR24 receiver in southern Iran (F-OIZC1) with quite good range.

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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 181

Sat Aug 20, 2016 12:44 pm

ZK-MVN is on NAG-PEN and the link is now:

http://www.flightradar24.com/SXI1642/abc3c1e

However, there will be two gaps in the FR24 coverage on this part of the journey.

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Sun Aug 21, 2016 2:39 am

Any idea why this ATR delivery was so soon after the other one which still hasn't entered commercial service?
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Sun Aug 21, 2016 8:44 am

Does anyone know what Honeywell's 757 (N757HW) was doing in Auckland on Thursday and Friday? It made 5 flights Auckland to Auckland over the central North Island.

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Sun Aug 21, 2016 9:13 am

Does anyone know what Honeywell's 757 (N757HW) was doing in Auckland on Thursday and Friday? It made 5 flights Auckland to Auckland over the central North Island.

It was in Sydney earlier in the week doing TT flights to do with inflight WiFi so I assume it was a continuation of that work in NZ.

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Sun Aug 21, 2016 9:57 am

LamboAston wrote:
Any idea why this ATR delivery was so soon after the other one which still hasn't entered commercial service?

Mount Cook were obviously assigned/offered slots on the prouction line that were close together.
Its not the first time either, MVK and MVL were delivered on 17 and 25 May respectively, plus MVO, MVH and MVI were delivered on 17, 18, and 29 December last year.

On a separate subject, ZK-NEA is off getting it's new paint job done.
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Sun Aug 21, 2016 7:17 pm

flyjetstar wrote:
Does anyone know what Honeywell's 757 (N757HW) was doing in Auckland on Thursday and Friday? It made 5 flights Auckland to Auckland over the central North Island.

It was in Sydney earlier in the week doing TT flights to do with inflight WiFi so I assume it was a continuation of that work in NZ.

Source: http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2016/08/honey ... ght-wi-fi/


Probably identifies who's wireless product NZ is planning to use on there up coming Inflight Wifi, would make sense the the Domestic A320 would get it pretty early on. Some maybe of come with the gear pre-installed.

Have noticed the crew are starting to use iPads on some flights, I wonder if there is an test network now running on the Tasman?
 
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Sun Aug 21, 2016 7:41 pm

Interestingly QF27 flew over Stewart Island yesterday, the furthest south for a while.
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Mon Aug 22, 2016 1:27 am

Interesting article in the Herald about the upcoming profit number and the perils of financial success - LOL. The estimates are all around the $600 mark, some a tad more, some a bit less:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news ... d=11698387

"Air New Zealand on course for jumbo $600 million profit

Air New Zealand is on course for a bumper profit of around $600 million for the past year after riding the travel boom that's feeding high passenger loads on to its growing domestic and international network.

Lower fuel prices and holding costs throughout the business are also helping the airline but the threat of rising oil prices and growing competition are expected to bite into the airline's performance this year.

The airline's performance had alerted its rivals which were also benefiting from low oil prices and high demand. "What we're seeing is that they're performing so well they're attracting intense competition from the US and Middle East and Asia," he said."


No one is expecting a similar profit next year as competition starts to bite, but it all looks like pretty good news to me.

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Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:06 am

In the thread about Air NZ's 77W 'Space Seat' being replaced between Feb and Nov 2017, the Australian Business Traveller article linked also says the last three Air NZ 789's on order from October 2017 will have a different seating configuration. 27 Business Premier (presently 18) and 33 Premium Economy (presently 21).

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Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:24 am

Yes I found it. Not sure about the rhetoric around the space seat tho. I was in Premium Econ earlier this month USA-AKL and spoke to 3 separate travellers who all had very positive experiences of the space seat and regularly went out of their way to book it and were not looking forward to the inevitable and much mooted shift to the new seat.
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Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:25 am

More to the point... only 3 789? What kind of sub-fleet is that? Surely they will modify a couple of the others?
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Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:38 am

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More to the point... only 3 789? What kind of sub-fleet is that? Surely they will modify a couple of the others?

I expect an additional 789 order is imminent.

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Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:38 am

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More to the point... only 3 789? What kind of sub-fleet is that? Surely they will modify a couple of the others?


They do have to start somewhere, I doubt they will convert others when they have just taken 1 with 2 more to come in the coming weeks. More likely we will see an additional order soon.

I wonder where they will send them? New routes or existing?
 
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I wonder where they will send them? New routes or existing?

USA routes to match any QF / AA 789 moves. The reduced seat count will permit increased range, so AKL-ORD seems likely.

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Mon Aug 22, 2016 1:40 pm

[quote="PA515] USA routes to match any QF / AA 789 moves. The reduced seat count will permit increased range, so AKL-ORD seems likely.]

I agree. Since AKL-IAH is an EDTO 240 route , you might see that change also.
 
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[[quote="PA515. The reduced seat count will permit increased range, so AKL-ORD seems likely.]]

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I estimate with the reduced seat count and with the TEN engine the range improvement will be about 1-hr. to about 17hrs at max passenger load. On a 12hr LAX-AKL day; ORD-AKL would be ~ 15hrs 15min . This would be an EDTO 240-min flight. It is worth noting that a 14hr IAH-AKL day would be about a 16hr.40min day EWR-AKL
 
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Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:35 pm

What is the likely overall seat count on the proposed new increased premium configuration for future NZ 789s?
 
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I believe it is 273 or 274
 
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Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:29 am

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What is the likely overall seat count on the proposed new increased premium configuration for future NZ 789s?

Eyeballing the seat map, increasing Business Premier from 18 to 27 seats would take that cabin back as far as door 2 (possibly there might be room for a single row of premium economy between the back of BP and door 2, but it looks like it would be a squeeze).

33 Premium economy seats sounds like 5 rows minus a 2 seat window block. 5 rows at 104cm pitch is 520cm, which equates to about 6.25 rows at 83cm. Assuming the cabin monuments aren't moved around, you're looking at removing 7 rows of economy to fit this in. That would make the first row of economy around row 41, maybe 42, on the current layout. So let's say 59 economy class seats removed (i'm assuming front row of economy is what is currently 41ABC, 42DEF, 41HJK). Assuming economy remains the same otherwise, that gives 204 seats.

So to compare:
Current configuration: 302 (18/21/263)
Premium heavy configuration: approximately 264 (27/33/204)

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Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:50 am

Yes the premium heavy 789 config is screaming Nth America (convert YVR to 789 March-November low season), and ORD/DEN/EWR. EWR would be pushing it but with QF apparently thinking about it from SYD (along with ORD) then surely it shouldn't be too hard for NZ to do it from AKL.
Who knows we could see NZ operate AKL-YVR/IAH/ORD/EWR with premium heavy 789 alongside 2x AKL-LAX 77W (plus the PI flight), AKL-SFO 77W. This would be a huge increase in capacity from just a few years ago however back then NZ were using gas guzzling 744s and the market has changed a lot (grown) since then too (especially with UA and AA both reentering it).
The good thing with fragmenting the market like this would do is that it provides a huge combination of 1 stop Oz to 6 Nth American destinations really hubbing AKL up. Even if QF does start ORD and JFK direct from SYD then for most Australians they will still be 1 stop options with an inconvenient connection in SYD.
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So to compare:
Current configuration: 302 (18/21/263)
Premium heavy configuration: approximately 264 (27/33/204)

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So very similar to Virgin Atlantic's configuration.

Dumb question. If QF are looking at flying JFK what would be benefits to NZ of flying EWR?
 
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Dumb question. If QF are looking at flying JFK what would be benefits to NZ of flying EWR?
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Probably they would fly to the NYC destination that UA could give them the most support.
 
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[[V/F[/quote]

So very similar to Virgin Atlantic's configuration. ]]

Virgin Atlantic has an additional 4J and 2 Y+ over the NZ count in their total count of 264. So I would anticipate NZ having a higher count than 264.
 
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So to compare:
Current configuration: 302 (18/21/263)
Premium heavy configuration: approximately 264 (27/33/204)

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So very similar to Virgin Atlantic's configuration.

Dumb question. If QF are looking at flying JFK what would be benefits to NZ of flying EWR?

EWR is actually closer to most of NYC than JFK is. JFK also is more for international flights to the likes of Europe and Asia while UA has a big presence at EWR for those connecting to smaller destinations nearby to NY (Buffalo, Boston, etc for example).
QF already flies to JFK via LAX (not sure if this will continue or not if they started up direct flights) but it certainly would give punters more options.
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Tue Aug 23, 2016 2:21 am

So is this new premium 787-9 config a nod to 77E replacement?
 
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Even if QF does start ORD and JFK direct from SYD then for most Australians they will still be 1 stop options with an inconvenient connection in SYD.


Transiting from Domestic QF to an International flight on the same PNR in SYD is a lot easier than it looks. You just go to Gate 15 when you land in SYD and get the transfer bus.

I would not be want to be overly relying on connecting traffic to fill planes especially if QF starts opening additional routes from MEL and BNE.
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Tue Aug 23, 2016 5:08 am

Anyone know why there is the takeoff routing over South Dunedin off RW03? I have only seen 3 aircraft do it ever, two JQ, and one NZ A320. Could it be to do with inbound props, or wind changes (planning 21, then last minute change and quick reroute over South Dunedin)?
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Even if QF does start ORD and JFK direct from SYD then for most Australians they will still be 1 stop options with an inconvenient connection in SYD.


Transiting from Domestic QF to an International flight on the same PNR in SYD is a lot easier than it looks. You just go to Gate 15 when you land in SYD and get the transfer bus.

I would not be want to be overly relying on connecting traffic to fill planes especially if QF starts opening additional routes from MEL and BNE.

I have done that many times getluv and there is no way that making your way through a terminal to then get on a bus then go through a terminal again with all the security customs etc is anywhere near as easy or pleasant as getting off the plane at AKL going through security and then making your way to your gate. On the way home it is even worse as arriving into SYD you have to clear customs etc then check your bag back in before doing the bus thing etc. You don't have to do that in AKL.
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Tue Aug 23, 2016 5:56 am

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Zkpilot wrote:
Even if QF does start ORD and JFK direct from SYD then for most Australians they will still be 1 stop options with an inconvenient connection in SYD.


Transiting from Domestic QF to an International flight on the same PNR in SYD is a lot easier than it looks. You just go to Gate 15 when you land in SYD and get the transfer bus.

I would not be want to be overly relying on connecting traffic to fill planes especially if QF starts opening additional routes from MEL and BNE.

I have done that many times getluv and there is no way that making your way through a terminal to then get on a bus then go through a terminal again with all the security customs etc is anywhere near as easy or pleasant as getting off the plane at AKL going through security and then making your way to your gate. On the way home it is even worse as arriving into SYD you have to clear customs etc then check your bag back in before doing the bus thing etc. You don't have to do that in AKL.


Any time you've gained is lost by the backtrack.

You don't need to clear customs and immigration if you are connecting from int'l to int'l in SYD. So technically, you would probably have a better experience flying SIN-SYD-WLG than you would SIN-AKL-WLG, as you still need to transfer your bag. You'll also get a guaranteed aerobridge too at SYD Int'l. But again, you're just delaying the inevitable.

Maybe it is just me, but when I've used the QF transfer system, it really wasn't a big deal. The bus ride is barely five minutes long, and you clear security before you get to T3 so you don't need to do it again. I'm sure to the majority of passengers there are more pressing reasons why people would choose to transit AKL over SYD and vice versa, one being price. I'm sure a bus ride across the tarmac doesn't rate that highly.
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getluv wrote:
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getluv wrote:

Transiting from Domestic QF to an International flight on the same PNR in SYD is a lot easier than it looks. You just go to Gate 15 when you land in SYD and get the transfer bus.

I would not be want to be overly relying on connecting traffic to fill planes especially if QF starts opening additional routes from MEL and BNE.

I have done that many times getluv and there is no way that making your way through a terminal to then get on a bus then go through a terminal again with all the security customs etc is anywhere near as easy or pleasant as getting off the plane at AKL going through security and then making your way to your gate. On the way home it is even worse as arriving into SYD you have to clear customs etc then check your bag back in before doing the bus thing etc. You don't have to do that in AKL.


Any time you've gained is lost by the backtrack.

You don't need to clear customs and immigration if you are connecting from int'l to int'l in SYD. So technically, you would probably have a better experience flying SIN-SYD-WLG than you would SIN-AKL-WLG, as you still need to transfer your bag. You'll also get a guaranteed aerobridge too at SYD Int'l. But again, you're just delaying the inevitable.

Maybe it is just me, but when I've used the QF transfer system, it really wasn't a big deal. The bus ride is barely five minutes long, and you clear security before you get to T3 so you don't need to do it again. I'm sure to the majority of passengers there are more pressing reasons why people would choose to transit AKL over SYD and vice versa, one being price. I'm sure a bus ride across the tarmac doesn't rate that highly.
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I think he meant from a domestic origin like Perth, Melbourne, Adelaide etc - look at original post
AS350, B733/4/7/8, B744/8, B762/3, B77E/L/W, B789, A319, A320, A321, A332, A346, A380, AT73/5/6, Q300, Q400, CR2/7, E190, S340, B1900C/D, E110 (E for epic)
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 181

Tue Aug 23, 2016 7:44 am

NZ321 wrote:
More to the point... only 3 789? What kind of sub-fleet is that? Surely they will modify a couple of the others?


They currently have 6x 789s yet to be delivered, 3 this year. Its likely the other 3 would come like this as well.

They also still have 6x 789 purchase options, with the up coming profit ancoucement its likely we could see another order.

If NZ got an extra 6x 789 we're would they use them? Maybe:

MEL-SFO (Partnership with UA)
AKL-DEN
BNE-SFO/LAX
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 181

Tue Aug 23, 2016 7:50 am

zkncj wrote:
NZ321 wrote:
More to the point... only 3 789? What kind of sub-fleet is that? Surely they will modify a couple of the others?


They currently have 6x 789s yet to be delivered, 3 this year. Its likely the other 3 would come like this aswell.

They also still have 6x 789 purchase options, with the up coming profit anncoument its likely we could see another order.


It's only 3 at this stage in the new config. 5 more to come with 2 in the next wee while and 3 next year or is it 2? number 7 arrived a few weeks ago.

Agree that it's seems a few more seem likely though to be ordered.


aerojoe wrote:
So is this new premium 787-9 config a nod to 77E replacement?


Possibly. They may go 78J though.
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 181

Tue Aug 23, 2016 7:54 am

zkncj wrote:
NZ321 wrote:
More to the point... only 3 789? What kind of sub-fleet is that? Surely they will modify a couple of the others?


They currently have 6x 789s yet to be delivered, 3 this year. Its likely the other 3 would come like this as well.

They also still have 6x 789 purchase options, with the up coming profit ancoucement its likely we could see another order.

If NZ got an extra 6x 789 we're would they use them? Maybe:

MEL-SFO (Partnership with UA)
AKL-DEN
BNE-SFO/LAX


Well I'll bite none of the above. NZ won't fly long haul ex Australia when parter UA can do it.

AKL-DEN maybe, ORD likely I think, increase existing routes, partly replace 77E from 2020ish maybe.
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 181

Tue Aug 23, 2016 8:02 am

ZK-NBT wrote:

MEL-SFO (Partnership with UA)
AKL-DEN
BNE-SFO/LAX


Well I'll bite none of the above. NZ won't fly long haul ex Australia when parter UA can do it.
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NZ is very strong in the Melbourne market, and is locally know as an option for traveling to NorthAm in fact you'll see NZ billboards all around town promoting these services.
 
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Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 181

Tue Aug 23, 2016 8:03 am

zkncj wrote:
NZ321 wrote:
More to the point... only 3 789? What kind of sub-fleet is that? Surely they will modify a couple of the others?


They currently have 6x 789s yet to be delivered, 3 this year. Its likely the other 3 would come like this as well.

They also still have 6x 789 purchase options, with the up coming profit ancoucement its likely we could see another order.

If NZ got an extra 6x 789 we're would they use them? Maybe:

MEL-SFO (Partnership with UA)
AKL-DEN
BNE-SFO/LAX


No way will we see NZ on Oz-USA flights. I'd be very happy if they did, but I just can't see it happening.

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