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will SWA N368SW Be Scrapped at BWI?

Fri Aug 12, 2016 5:37 pm

SWA 737-300 (N368SW) had a nose wheel collapse on pushback at BWI on 4th of August. Given the age of the a/c, and the fact that several of similar age sister ships have already been scraped by SWA, is it likely that SWA will repair the 1993 built airplane or scrap it at BWI?
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Re: will SWA N368SW Be Scraped at BWI?

Fri Aug 12, 2016 5:51 pm

Based on the fact that ALL the -300s will be retired by the third quarter of next year, I doubt this aircraft will be repaired unless it would be cheaper to fly it out for scrapping.
 
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Re: will SWA N368SW Be Scraped at BWI?

Fri Aug 12, 2016 7:07 pm

I'd be shocked if it wasn't a goner. They will just take a previously scheduled retirement and replace it with this A/C essentially moving #386 up in the retirement rotation. As ScottB already said all -300's are gone by Labor Day 2017 anyway.
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Re: will SWA N368SW Be Scraped at BWI?

Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:01 pm

I'm pretty sure the aircraft already got "scraped" when the nose gear collapsed. ;)
 
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Re: will SWA N368SW Be Scraped at BWI?

Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:46 pm

I was in and out of BWI a couple days this week and was wondering why it was over there. It also occurred to me that SWA doesn't have a hangar there in BWI after seeing it out there.
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Re: will SWA N368SW Be Scraped at BWI?

Sat Aug 13, 2016 12:24 am

I am surprised that with all the WN flights at BWI that they do not have a hanger
 
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Re: will SWA N368SW Be Scraped at BWI?

Sat Aug 13, 2016 12:54 am

n471wn wrote:
I am surprised that with all the WN flights at BWI that they do not have a hanger

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Wouldn't do them much good?
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Re: will SWA N368SW Be Scraped at BWI?

Sat Aug 13, 2016 5:22 am

A SWA mechanic I talked to in BWI last week told me that it will be scrapped on site. It will probably be Natty Bo cans by the fall.

The suspected cause of the nose collapse, BTW, is mishandling by the pushback crew.
 
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Re: will SWA N368SW Be Scraped at BWI?

Sat Aug 13, 2016 5:34 am

Only 72000 hours on her. Pretty young as far as -300s go.
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Re: will SWA N368SW Be Scraped at BWI?

Sat Aug 13, 2016 5:53 pm

Spacepope wrote:
Only 72000 hours on her. Pretty young as far as -300s go.


Yes as SWA has had some 300's hit the the high 90's
 
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Re: will SWA N368SW Be Scrapped at BWI?

Sat Aug 13, 2016 6:01 pm

Put it next to the World Airways DC-10 that's been sitting there for 7 years. Get a little boneyard going.
 
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Re: will SWA N368SW Be Scraped at BWI?

Sat Aug 13, 2016 6:30 pm

Spacepope wrote:
Only 72000 hours on her. Pretty young as far as -300s go.

Yes, but the demand for 733's isn't exactly robust, and the cycles are probably getting up there. Since WN is getting rid of all 733's anyway it surely is the right decision to scrap it. It will have a higher parts value due to the low hours, at least.
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Re: will SWA N368SW Be Scrapped at BWI?

Sat Aug 13, 2016 7:31 pm

Anyone have any knowledge of the damage? It's probably worth $3.5M - $4M and a gear collapse that doesn't hit the pressure bulkhead won't cost anywhere near that...may even come in under the deductible.
 
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Re: will SWA N368SW Be Scraped at BWI?

Sun Aug 14, 2016 12:15 am

SEPilot wrote:
Spacepope wrote:
Only 72000 hours on her. Pretty young as far as -300s go.

Yes, but the demand for 733's isn't exactly robust, and the cycles are probably getting up there. Since WN is getting rid of all 733's anyway it surely is the right decision to scrap it. It will have a higher parts value due to the low hours, at least.


Only 50-some thousand cycles. No doubt if they write it off it's a decent decision, one of the few WN 737 photos from KSGT here shows a rear fuselage section from a scrapped classic, and the number of doubters and rivets is astounding. https://www.airliners.net/photo/Untitled/Boeing-737-3Y0/2613330
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Re: will SWA N368SW Be Scraped at BWI?

Sun Aug 14, 2016 1:54 am

n471wn wrote:
I am surprised that with all the WN flights at BWI that they do not have a hanger


Well, with 11 some hangar locations it has not been needed (yet)? Never say never though!

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Spacepope wrote:
Only 72000 hours on her. Pretty young as far as -300s go.

Yes, but the demand for 733's isn't exactly robust, and the cycles are probably getting up there. Since WN is getting rid of all 733's anyway it surely is the right decision to scrap it. It will have a higher parts value due to the low hours, at least.


Yes and no. Not much value on -300 parts either, unless they are also NG effective. But no reason to repair when there are plenty of -300s to last through the next 13 months.
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Re: will SWA N368SW Be Scraped at BWI?

Sun Aug 14, 2016 3:07 pm

Spacepope wrote:
...one of the few WN 737 photos from KSGT here shows a rear fuselage section from a scrapped classic, and the number of doubters and rivets is astounding. https://www.airliners.net/photo/Untitled/Boeing-737-3Y0/2613330


Seriously, the back end of that isn't too bad considering some of the others. Here's the front of one of the first classics, N301SW, while it was still in service in September 2006. The whole thing was pretty much one big doubler at that point... It would fly for two more years!
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Re: will SWA N368SW Be Scraped at BWI?

Mon Aug 15, 2016 10:31 pm

Spacepope wrote:
SEPilot wrote:
Spacepope wrote:
Only 72000 hours on her. Pretty young as far as -300s go.

Yes, but the demand for 733's isn't exactly robust, and the cycles are probably getting up there. Since WN is getting rid of all 733's anyway it surely is the right decision to scrap it. It will have a higher parts value due to the low hours, at least.


Only 50-some thousand cycles. No doubt if they write it off it's a decent decision, one of the few WN 737 photos from KSGT here shows a rear fuselage section from a scrapped classic, and the number of doubters and rivets is astounding. https://www.airliners.net/photo/Untitled/Boeing-737-3Y0/2613330

Interesting photo. It is clearly a highly stressed area of the fuselage, and it looks to be just about even with the support for the horizontal stabilizer. I count 12 separate patches, and a lot of them are directly over previous patches. But if you consider that the plane served probably 30 years and close to 100,000 hours and 70,000 cycles, it is not too bad. I could not detect any patches anywhere else on either visible section.
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