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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 144

Sun Sep 11, 2016 10:06 pm

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CX will fly A350 and 77W to MEL in 2017

CX104/105 will see A350 deployed from 1 Feb 2017
CX178/163 will see 77W deployed from 1 March 2017

CX134/135 will still be flown by A330

http://www.ausbt.com.au/cathay-pacific- ... me-flipper


Interesting, I wonder if we will see some lounge redevelopment in MEL? Can the current CX lounge handle that capacity increase of a 77W? always seemed odd to me how small their lounge spaces was, and why MH maintained a Melbourne lounge - all with no exterior Windows.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 144

Sun Sep 11, 2016 11:58 pm

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Im guessing they have 4 flight crew members on the QR915? Couldn't have been too serious if they diverted to Perth. Not sure if KTA or PHE have the runway for the A350 but LEA definitely does.


Out of those, PHE is the only port able to provide border agency support at short notice which is a requirement if offloading a medical pax. QR would no doubt also have to offload the pax bags which would require equipment only PER could provide.

As to the duty time limitations, I've read elsewhere on several occasions that Australia is stricter than UAE and Qatar on this, so combine that with the 4 pilots who would no doubt have been onboard anyway and I'm sure that's how QR915 made it back out of PER.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 144

Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:29 am

Thai has delayed A350 service to late October

Reason being

additional inspections and requirements from Australian authorities" are needed before the new jet can begin flying in Australian skies.

These additional checks mean that "the approval process is not able to be completed in time for Thai to operate the maiden flight by September 16, 2016."

Thai is now setting its sights on late October, perhaps timed for the start of northern winter schedules.


http://www.ausbt.com.au/thai-to-fly-dou ... -melbourne
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Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:35 am

HU plans CSX-MEL from 9 November 2016

HU483 CSX1745 – 0700+1MEL 330 37
HU484 MEL0900 – 1620CSX 330 14

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... -nov-2016/
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 144

Mon Sep 12, 2016 5:41 am

qf789 wrote:
Thai has delayed A350 service to late October

Reason being

additional inspections and requirements from Australian authorities" are needed before the new jet can begin flying in Australian skies.

These additional checks mean that "the approval process is not able to be completed in time for Thai to operate the maiden flight by September 16, 2016."

Thai is now setting its sights on late October, perhaps timed for the start of northern winter schedules.


http://www.ausbt.com.au/thai-to-fly-dou ... -melbourne


This will give me more opportunities to log TG A350 domestic sectors now :)
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 144

Mon Sep 12, 2016 6:55 am

Flypelican to start NCL-CFS from next month.

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 144

Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:29 am

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Flypelican to start NCL-CFS from next month.

http://australianaviation.com.au/2016/0 ... r-service/


Assuming you mean NTL instead of NCL?
 
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Tue Sep 13, 2016 6:38 am

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qf2048 wrote:
Flypelican to start NCL-CFS from next month.

http://australianaviation.com.au/2016/0 ... r-service/


Assuming you mean NTL instead of NCL?

Yes correct. Typo. Don't think the J32 quite has the legs for that route.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 144

Wed Sep 14, 2016 2:15 am

China Southern Airlines will launch its second scheduled service to Brisbane later this year.

The carrier has applied for permission to launch daily services from Shenzhen to the Australian city, as it expands its international network from the southern Chinese city.

If approved, flights will commence in November 2016, and will operate alongside China Southern’s existing daily Guangzhou-Brisbane flights.

Brisbane would become China Southern’s second Australian destination from Shenzhen, following Sydney. The airline previously applied for permission to link Shenzhen with Melbourne.

Source: http://www.traveldailymedia.com/241072/ ... e-service/


CZ currently flies SZX-SYD 3x weekly and CA is due to launch SZX-MEL in October (but nothing appears in online timetables....). Great to finally see some expansion from Chinese carries in BNE, and combined with MU launching PVG daily in December would see a tripling of Chinese carrier capacity in 2 months.

I'm not too familiar with how the Chinese approval works, if they apply for daily does that mean they are likely to launch daily? Or is it more likely we will see them start at 3x weekly and applying for daily just gives them the ability to increase capacity as needed?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 144

Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:02 am

QF to announce a new ex-MEL international destination tomorrow.

Clue QF operate the route daily from BNE ;)

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Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:15 am

Really? The only route QF runs from BNE daily not served by Melbourne is Tokyo - they don't have the fleet for that unless its a 787 route?
 
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Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:36 am

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Really? The only route QF runs from BNE daily not served by Melbourne is Tokyo - they don't have the fleet for that unless its a 787 route?


A330 reconfigure program is nearing completion which frees up 1 x A330.

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 144

Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:37 am

WOW! Very exciting!
 
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Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:41 am

Hi everyone long time reader of these forums. Took the plunge to sign up to this website. So look forward to adding my opinion here from time to time.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 144

Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:46 am

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QF to announce a new ex-MEL international destination tomorrow.

Clue QF operate the route daily from BNE ;)

EK413


Great news for QF and MEL. QF seems to do very well on the BNE-NRT route and every now and then (September 25th is another one...) there is an extra daily service.

Given the size of Tokyo/Japanese economy and its connections to Australia, it is surprising that the service doesn't exist already. When you consider that MEL-HKG is 4x daily (CX/QF) and MEL-SIN is ~7x daily (SQ/QF/EK/TZ), it's shocking that MEL-TYO is currently only 4x weekly on JQ at terrible times. I'm not trying to directly compare HKG/SIN/TYO, I know each is different and SIN/HKG have more connecting traffic, but still...
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 144

Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:27 am

I've heard on the grape vine that QF will replace JQ on MEL-NRT and that very likely JL will also join the Melbourne party too! Good news for Melbourne, I'm sure the locals will be happy with that news if it comes to fruition?

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 144

Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:30 am

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log0008 wrote:
Really? The only route QF runs from BNE daily not served by Melbourne is Tokyo - they don't have the fleet for that unless its a 787 route?


A330 reconfigure program is nearing completion which frees up 1 x A330.

EK413


Only VH-EBG and VH-EBL to be reconfigured now
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 144

Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:35 am

Recognising not only the tragedy that 9/11 was this week!

.........But also another tragedy closer to home with the 15 year anniversary of Ansett Australia going into receivership and finally ceasing operations totally 5 months later. Many thousands of Australians were impacted by the collapse. I still miss Ansett today, the people and the great service Australians benefitted from when its jets graced our skies. After 66 years of history and many Australian and Global aviation first's and indelibly woven into the fabric of Australian society until 2001, AN is sadly missed.

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 144

Wed Sep 14, 2016 12:25 pm

Hey there all,

I have tried to do a search but couldn't find anything.

I was wondering why QF never looked at the 747-8i? I know that aircraft with 2 engines rather than 4 engines is always preferred but surely the 747-8i might have been looked at by QF especially when they have a fascination for the 747 fleet?
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 144

Wed Sep 14, 2016 12:47 pm

Exciting news regarding QF's entry into MEL-Tokyo ! Let's hope its all true tomorrow, if JQ is replaced, I wonder of there are any new routes JQ can explore from MEL? I would personally like to see MEL-China/Korea/India/Philippines on JQ metal, or perhaps even MEL-KIX?

Qantas16 wrote:
I'm not too familiar with how the Chinese approval works, if they apply for daily does that mean they are likely to launch daily? Or is it more likely we will see them start at 3x weekly and applying for daily just gives them the ability to increase capacity as needed?


They don't have to fly daily straight away but can build up the frequency. Many airlines apply for what they need, but you also see airlines apply for extra frequency.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 144

Wed Sep 14, 2016 1:52 pm

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Hey there all,

I have tried to do a search but couldn't find anything.

I was wondering why QF never looked at the 747-8i? I know that aircraft with 2 engines rather than 4 engines is always preferred but surely the 747-8i might have been looked at by QF especially when they have a fascination for the 747 fleet?

They did, but they didn't see the need for that size aircraft with the A380 already on the way. They decided the A380 was a better deal for them.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 144

Wed Sep 14, 2016 2:31 pm

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Exciting news regarding QF's entry into MEL-Tokyo !


"re-entry" into Tokyo :)

If memory serves me correctly, QF flew MEL-NRT daily on a 767 (?) up until 2007-2008 when the route was cancelled.

I suppose we'll find out soon, but the last remaining question is: MEL-NRT or MEL-HND.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 144

Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:56 pm

kriskim wrote:
Exciting news regarding QF's entry into MEL-Tokyo ! Let's hope its all true tomorrow, if JQ is replaced, I wonder of there are any new routes JQ can explore from MEL? I would personally like to see MEL-China/Korea/India/Philippines on JQ metal, or perhaps even MEL-KIX?


I would be surprised if it was MEL-KIX. JQ pulled out of OOL-KIX ~2 years ago and only operates KIX-CNS 5x weekly. If they were going to launch a new route to KIX it would be from OOL or SYD.

If it is replacing JQ, the 4x weekly frequencies, combined with the 2/3x weekly frequencies from BNE-HNL would allow them to launch a daily route....
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 144

Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:45 pm

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kriskim wrote:
Exciting news regarding QF's entry into MEL-Tokyo !


"re-entry" into Tokyo :)

If memory serves me correctly, QF flew MEL-NRT daily on a 767 (?) up until 2007-2008 when the route was cancelled.

I suppose we'll find out soon, but the last remaining question is: MEL-NRT or MEL-HND.


Haha yes, "re-entry", still exciting nonetheless, numbers for JQ have been picking up month on month so those numbers have definitely enticed QF to jump on the route.

QF only operated the route x3 weekly until it ended in 2008. I'm pretty sure they used a A330 on the route, not sure which variant though. Australian carriers are only allocated x7 weekly flights to HND (which QF currently uses on SYD-HND), so I don't expect HND, but NRT.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 144

Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:29 pm

kriskim wrote:
tayser wrote:
kriskim wrote:
Exciting news regarding QF's entry into MEL-Tokyo !


"re-entry" into Tokyo :)

If memory serves me correctly, QF flew MEL-NRT daily on a 767 (?) up until 2007-2008 when the route was cancelled.

I suppose we'll find out soon, but the last remaining question is: MEL-NRT or MEL-HND.


Haha yes, "re-entry", still exciting nonetheless, numbers for JQ have been picking up month on month so those numbers have definitely enticed QF to jump on the route.

QF only operated the route x3 weekly until it ended in 2008. I'm pretty sure they used a A330 on the route, not sure which variant though. Australian carriers are only allocated x7 weekly flights to HND (which QF currently uses on SYD-HND), so I don't expect HND, but NRT.


Pretty sure QF MEL-NRT was daily at one point, and I think it used A330's but went back to 763's before being dropped.
 
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Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:34 pm

ZK-NBT wrote:
kriskim wrote:
tayser wrote:

"re-entry" into Tokyo :)

If memory serves me correctly, QF flew MEL-NRT daily on a 767 (?) up until 2007-2008 when the route was cancelled.

I suppose we'll find out soon, but the last remaining question is: MEL-NRT or MEL-HND.


Haha yes, "re-entry", still exciting nonetheless, numbers for JQ have been picking up month on month so those numbers have definitely enticed QF to jump on the route.

QF only operated the route x3 weekly until it ended in 2008. I'm pretty sure they used a A330 on the route, not sure which variant though. Australian carriers are only allocated x7 weekly flights to HND (which QF currently uses on SYD-HND), so I don't expect HND, but NRT.


Pretty sure QF MEL-NRT was daily at one point, and I think it used A330's but went back to 763's before being dropped.


Yes, it was 6-7 a week with B767s at its peak, but prior to being dropped off, it was down to 3 weekly Airbus 330s. If Im not mistaken, it might have been MEL-SYD-TYO, and TYO-MEL as well for most of the time.
 
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Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:49 pm

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Pretty sure QF MEL-NRT was daily at one point, and I think it used A330's but went back to 763's before being dropped.


Yes indeed it was, however I was referring to when the route was dropped. If we did compare QF's Japan network today to that 10 years ago, it was much much different!

There are rumours going around that QF's move onto MEL-NRT was made partly due to JL's imminent arrival to MEL. JL are actually well in advanced in talks at MEL and we were expecting an announcement from them soon.
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Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:56 pm

Personally I'd rather see JL on the route more than QF - whatever happens today I really hope JL wont reconsider if QF beats them to it!
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 144

Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:25 pm

What ever happened to the rumours floating around about NH or JL launching PER?

I would love to see QF launch a daily MEL-NRT, and JL launch a 3 x weekly PER-NRT as a JV. This would give all 4 major Australian ports a direct link to Japan.
 
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Thu Sep 15, 2016 12:25 am

Hi there. Iv been following this site for a number of years and have finally decided to join.

Does anyone know what happened to the planned China Eastern freighter flights that were scheduled to HBA?
I dont know the exact route it was planned, but i know it was going to go via BNE on the return.

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 144

Thu Sep 15, 2016 1:00 am

kriskim wrote:
ZK-NBT wrote:
Pretty sure QF MEL-NRT was daily at one point, and I think it used A330's but went back to 763's before being dropped.


Yes indeed it was, however I was referring to when the route was dropped. If we did compare QF's Japan network today to that 10 years ago, it was much much different!

There are rumours going around that QF's move onto MEL-NRT was made partly due to JL's imminent arrival to MEL. JL are actually well in advanced in talks at MEL and we were expecting an announcement from them soon.


QF had PER and MEL/SYD-NRT and 10 years ago. SYD was an A330 for a while and may have had a second flight for a while I think. Basically with lower fuel prices I think QF with lower costs than before are reinstating capacity where it is needed most. Surprising MEL has at times had no Japan service,, hopefully something for PER as well soon.

Years ago QF ran 747's CNS- Japan as well. NRT, NGO, KIX with the classics.
 
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Thu Sep 15, 2016 1:07 am

Back in the golden hey day, QF even had a weekly TYO-ADL service. Even DRW was served too, it was a weekly TYO-DRW-SYD service, which I am certain switched to TYO-DRW-PER.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 144

Thu Sep 15, 2016 1:30 am

It looks like Jetstar's partnership with the Wanda Group has ended:

http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/lif ... a788ee79d2

Any reason why? By all accounts it was a 'success'.
 
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Thu Sep 15, 2016 1:45 am

“Our partnership with the Dalian Wanda Group remains strong and we expect to shortly announce new services from Wuhan to Australia that will commence prior to the Chinese New Year."

They look to be looking at other cities
 
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Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:39 am

6thfreedom wrote:
It looks like Jetstar's partnership with the Wanda Group has ended:

http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/lif ... a788ee79d2

Any reason why? By all accounts it was a 'success'.


Shame to see it go, was an interesting route. Where will the extra JQ capacity go? They now have BNE-HNL and OOL-WUH (5x weekly) + the (rumoured) MEL-NRT aircraft to put somewhere else.

Would not shock me to see them go daily on BNE-DPS (currently 4x weekly) as this flight always seems to be full (I know, I know). Still some extra capacity in the fleet though...
 
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Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:59 am

Qantas16 wrote:
6thfreedom wrote:
It looks like Jetstar's partnership with the Wanda Group has ended:

http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/lif ... a788ee79d2

Any reason why? By all accounts it was a 'success'.


Shame to see it go, was an interesting route. Where will the extra JQ capacity go? They now have BNE-HNL and OOL-WUH (5x weekly) + the (rumoured) MEL-NRT aircraft to put somewhere else.

Would not shock me to see them go daily on BNE-DPS (currently 4x weekly) as this flight always seems to be full (I know, I know). Still some extra capacity in the fleet though...


I think most of DPS flying will be handed over to the A320NEO's when they arrive. Significant increases in frequency is expected, also expansion by carriers such as QZ to the East Coast since XT exited the market.

Jayne has hinted that more Chinese routes are to come. But I think Korea is a very interesting market for JQ to tap into, either MEL/SYD/OOL/CNS-ICN a few times weekly, with a growing demand for Australians to Korea and a strong student market it could work well for them, similar to Japan. SYD currently has 2 carriers so maybe not it, CNS will see Jin Air, so OOL and MEL could be great potential markets for JQ to explore.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 144

Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:34 am

Interesting news around MEL and Tokyo, I've herd MEL would receive another Asian airlines, so would bank on JL, and JQ stay on the route as a JV with QF capture all the yield st both ends. I can't see the demand for both JL and QF. But could be wrong. I'm still amazing JQ hasn't started flying to Philipines, especially ex-MEL. They may struggle against Cebu Pacific from a cost perspective but not PR surely, especially considering the ancient 330s & 340s PR fly to MEL. Low yield, high volume. Also surprises me no Korean routes ex-MEL, I'm not to familiar with Korean traffic, do Koreans like LCCs?
 
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Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:21 am

gardermoen wrote:
Back in the golden hey day, QF even had a weekly TYO-ADL service. Even DRW was served too, it was a weekly TYO-DRW-SYD service, which I am certain switched to TYO-DRW-PER.


I flew NRT-DRW in late 1997 and the flight did continue to Perth. There were about 20 of us on a 763.
 
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Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:41 am

EK413 wrote:
QF to announce a new ex-MEL international destination tomorrow.

Clue QF operate the route daily from BNE ;)

EK413


Nothing announced that I can see...
 
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Thu Sep 15, 2016 11:32 pm

kriskim wrote:
Qantas16 wrote:
6thfreedom wrote:
It looks like Jetstar's partnership with the Wanda Group has ended:

http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/lif ... a788ee79d2

Any reason why? By all accounts it was a 'success'.


Shame to see it go, was an interesting route. Where will the extra JQ capacity go? They now have BNE-HNL and OOL-WUH (5x weekly) + the (rumoured) MEL-NRT aircraft to put somewhere else.

Would not shock me to see them go daily on BNE-DPS (currently 4x weekly) as this flight always seems to be full (I know, I know). Still some extra capacity in the fleet though...


I think most of DPS flying will be handed over to the A320NEO's when they arrive. Significant increases in frequency is expected, also expansion by carriers such as QZ to the East Coast since XT exited the market.

Jayne has hinted that more Chinese routes are to come. But I think Korea is a very interesting market for JQ to tap into, either MEL/SYD/OOL/CNS-ICN a few times weekly, with a growing demand for Australians to Korea and a strong student market it could work well for them, similar to Japan. SYD currently has 2 carriers so maybe not it, CNS will see Jin Air, so OOL and MEL could be great potential markets for JQ to explore.


I somewhat disagree that most of the DPS flying will be handed over to the A320NEO. Certainly something like ADL-DPS could and it could make sense for BNE-DPS to go NEO in order to make it daily but I doubt SYD or MEL to DPS will go NEO because if you look at the opportunities JQ as a group have with the NEO's there are plenty of reasons to have them at 3K and GK before you would have substantial numbers with JQ here in Australia. (Routes such as SIN-ADL, SIN-CNS, SIN-OKA, KIX-BKK etc all become possible with the NEO)
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 144

Fri Sep 16, 2016 12:06 am

qf789 wrote:
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log0008 wrote:
Really? The only route QF runs from BNE daily not served by Melbourne is Tokyo - they don't have the fleet for that unless its a 787 route?


A330 reconfigure program is nearing completion which frees up 1 x A330.

EK413


Only VH-EBG and VH-EBL to be reconfigured now


I've heard -EBG & -EBL are being returned to their lessor therefore won't be reconfigured :(

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 144

Fri Sep 16, 2016 12:08 am

Just in: Qantas to (re)start direct flights between Melbourne and Tokyo/Narita from December 16, running daily on an Airbus A330, with Jetstar axing its MEL-NRT service and handing the route over to QF from late Feb 2017.
http://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-will-beg ... n-december
 
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Fri Sep 16, 2016 12:15 am

vhebb wrote:
EK413 wrote:
QF to announce a new ex-MEL international destination tomorrow.

Clue QF operate the route daily from BNE ;)

EK413


Nothing announced that I can see...


Qantas will launch daily direct flights between Melbourne and Tokyo in December, resurrecting a route axed in 2008 due to rising fuel costs.

http://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-will-beg ... me-flipper

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 144

Fri Sep 16, 2016 12:42 am

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A330 reconfigure program is nearing completion which frees up 1 x A330.

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Only VH-EBG and VH-EBL to be reconfigured now


I've heard -EBG & -EBL are being returned to their lessor therefore won't be reconfigured :(

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I think you'll find that the 2 A332's that were being returned to Lessors have already been returned being EBH and EBI. EBG and EBL are last because they have the Skybeds in them.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 144

Fri Sep 16, 2016 1:29 am

I think it's pretty obvious that the QF move was in response to a planned service by JL or NH...

BNE-NRT was announced early December 2014 and launched August 2015... that's ~9 months whereas MEL-NRT will have only 2 months between announcement and launch.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 144

Fri Sep 16, 2016 1:53 am

Always nice to see QF expand!

Qantas16 wrote:
I think it's pretty obvious that the QF move was in response to a planned service by JL or NH...

BNE-NRT was announced early December 2014 and launched August 2015... that's ~9 months whereas MEL-NRT will have only 2 months between announcement and launch.


Or is QF more agile now than previously? With the cool down of the WA market are they just making a reshuffle of aircraft to a more profitable route? Didn't NH say they have no more plans for AU? And how closely do QF and JL cooperate? Would JL have impacted QF and JQ that much?

Does this still leave some A330s free, once the reconfiguration is complete? Curious where JQ will send the 789? MNL or ICN ex-MEL would be good, do they have adequate crew rest facilities for ICN?

I'd now only like to see PVG ex-MEL on QF, I know MU has this covered, and they are getting better. But the Chineese carriers still fall apart in disruptions- canx or delays.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 144

Fri Sep 16, 2016 2:05 am

From today QR is operating the A388 to SYD, aircraft operating today is A7APE
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 144

Fri Sep 16, 2016 3:32 am

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Back in the golden hey day, QF even had a weekly TYO-ADL service. Even DRW was served too, it was a weekly TYO-DRW-SYD service, which I am certain switched to TYO-DRW-PER.

QF also had a seasonal MEL-CNS-CTS route for all the skiers heading up to Hokkaido (rumour has it that Margaret Jackson wanted it since she owned accommodation in Hokkaido) - not sure if it made money or not but it was a good service.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 144

Fri Sep 16, 2016 3:51 am

The Japan-Australia market has been interesting one to analyse over time.

It went through a huge boom and then bust but has steadily regained some traction.The fall off was quite dramatic and is a case study to manage try and ensure a big tourism market like China is managed well over time..

It is still not at the level it once was, with service to KIX, NGO, fUK, CTS also operated over time from multiple Australian gateways and carriers. These days it is less fragmented and focused mainly on Tokyo, with only limited service to KIX available (from CNS only).
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 144

Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:42 am

smi0006 wrote:
Curious where JQ will send the 789? MNL or ICN ex-MEL would be good, do they have adequate crew rest facilities for ICN?


Economy on the JQ 787s is better IMHO than both Scoot and AirAsiaX and both of those are off to Europe (with the advantage of geographic home hubs). Could we see JQ deploy their 787s on longer routes? More costly in utilisation though. Hope they don't cut down the Japan flying any further.
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