doulasc
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why did National Airlines(NA) drop service to EYW

Mon Aug 22, 2016 2:51 am

National Airlines served Key West until 1970 or 1971.They operated a few Convair twin flights from Miami until the Convairs were retired
and then operated one flight a day with a Lockheed Prop Jet Electra til they were retired in 1968 and then it was a Boeing 727-100 until they
pulled out around 1970 or 1971 then the operation was taken over with Southeast Airlines operating Martin 404 from MIA-MTH-EYW.
Did restriction on jets at Key West force National to drop service there since their smallest plane was a 727-100.Even today there are questions
on what aircraft can serve Key West with a 4800 feet runway.When National served EYW the runway was shorter,Then in 1979 When Air Florida
took over Air Sunshine they flew Boeing 737-200s and Piedmont Shuttle has Fokker F-28s and Eastern operated a 727 for a short while.
 
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Re: why did National Airlines(NA) drop service to EYW

Mon Aug 22, 2016 4:05 am

I actually have some insight here.

National started service to Key West in 1944 during World War II at the behest of the US Navy, which had a submarine base there. The 18 passenger Lockheed Lodestar was the only aircraft National flew until the introduction of the DC-4 in 1946.

Key West was a Navy town with few tourists for many years. By 1970 the Navy was going with an all nuclear submarine fleet and the Key West sub base was closing. The NAL daily flight from MIA averaged less than five passengers on a 727-100. National had tried for years to drop EYW but the CAB wouldn't let them. They eventually came to an agreement with Southeast and then Air Sunshine to operate EYW-MIA with a flag stop at MTH.- Martin 202/404s with SE and DC-3s for AAT (Air Sunshine). The ticket counter at EYW said "operated for National Airlines by Air Sunshine" in 1976, when I was a flight instructor at EYW. With de-regulation in 1978, National could finally drop EYW for good. The reasons were economic, not operational - the 727 was a better short runway jet than any modern aircraft.

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Re: why did National Airlines(NA) drop service to EYW

Mon Aug 22, 2016 1:19 pm

Flying in a 727-100 in & out of EYW must have been fun.
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Re: why did National Airlines(NA) drop service to EYW

Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:08 pm

doulasc wrote:
When National served EYW the runway was shorter

Offhand guess: it's been 4800 ft since 1960 at least.
 
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Re: why did National Airlines(NA) drop service to EYW

Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:50 pm

EA used a 727-200, granted light on fuel, but a fun takeoff.
 
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Re: why did National Airlines(NA) drop service to EYW

Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:13 pm

flflyer wrote:
EA used a 727-200, granted light on fuel, but a fun takeoff.



I remember that as being a -100


A few year ago, there was a small plane accident that tied up SRQ's 14/32, which is 9,000ish ft. I watched a US EMB170 and a DL MD88 take off on runway 4, which is only 5,000 ft. They had to use that runway on short notice. The MD-88 went full power, but held the brakes for about 20 seconds. I was standing only about 150 feet away, off the side. Very thrilling !!!
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Re: why did National Airlines(NA) drop service to EYW

Tue Aug 23, 2016 10:37 pm

727LOVER wrote:
flflyer wrote:
EA used a 727-200, granted light on fuel, but a fun takeoff.




A few year ago, there was a small plane accident that tied up SRQ's 14/32, which is 9,000ish ft. I watched a US EMB170 and a DL MD88 take off on runway 4, which is only 5,000 ft. They had to use that runway on short notice. The MD-88 went full power, but held the brakes for about 20 seconds. I was standing only about 150 feet away, off the side. Very thrilling !!!


I would have LOVED to be on that MD-88. The best I did on one of those was taking off from DAB on 16 which is 6001 feet long. I remember my brain dropped into my stomach for that one and I was actually light headed. A week earlier when I landed there we landed on 34 with a decent crosswind. That last minute slam on the breaks with 2000 feet to go forced me into the seat in front of me. My mother was waiting for me at Target which wasn't far, I thought she might have been able to pick me up right there!!! Nice thrill.
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