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Re: AAL to retire 20 MD-80's on 23rd August 2016

Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:13 pm

A great article about this, looking especially at one of the frames that were retired:

http://airwaysmag.com/airchive/american ... -20-md-80/
 
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Re: AAL to retire 20 MD-80's on 23rd August 2016

Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:37 pm

https://www.airliners.net/photo/American ... 29/3947087

Here is one of my photos from the retirement yesterday.
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Re: AAL to retire 20 MD-80's on 23rd August 2016

Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:41 pm

Oh my goodness, I can't believe I overlooked N9401W on the list. I just flew on this aircraft TPA-ORD, less than a week ago. Now to learn it was on the TPA-ROS turn. Never could of guessed it. Thanks for sharing JetBuddy. Great article.
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Re: AAL to retire 20 MD-80's on 23rd August 2016

Thu Aug 25, 2016 1:42 am

The MD-80 wasn't glamorous, unlike some of the other aircraft in the fleet. The 757s are noted for their ability to climb out of airports at high altitudes or with short runways. The 767s used to do the trans-cons, often with one or more celebrities on board. The 777s were the planes that flew to the truly far-off destinations.

But, the MD-80 did it's job, whether it was a short hop. like DFW-SAT, or a longer flight, such as ORD-LAX. Think how many years that MD-80 was the workhorse on routes like ORD-DFW and ORD-LGA.

I've been on MD-80 flights were, by the time AAdvantage Gold was boarded, only about a third of the passengers were left in the gate. Clearly, this was the workhorse that carried the road warrior.

What I will miss is the sound of the P&W JT8D spooling up at the start of a take-off roll, with the high-pitched whine and the mechanical hum growing every louder. Newer engines just don't have the same, for lack of a better word, oomf to sounds of their spool-ups.
 
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Re: AAL to retire 20 MD-80's on 23rd August 2016

Thu Aug 25, 2016 1:51 am

aadc10137 wrote:
https://www.airliners.net/photo/American-Airlines/McDonnell-Douglas-MD-82-%28DC-9-82%29/3947087

Here is one of my photos from the retirement yesterday.


Thanks for the great pic! It's a little bittersweet to see them just sitting in the desert but their time is coming to an end. They have carried millions of people safely across the country. It's the end of an era for AA.
 
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Re: AAL to retire 20 MD-80's on 23rd August 2016

Thu Aug 25, 2016 2:23 am

aadc10137 wrote:
https://www.airliners.net/photo/American-Airlines/McDonnell-Douglas-MD-82-%28DC-9-82%29/3947087

Here is one of my photos from the retirement yesterday.


Awesome shot! Credit to you!
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Re: AAL to retire 20 MD-80's on 23rd August 2016

Thu Aug 25, 2016 1:37 pm

aadc10137 wrote:
https://www.airliners.net/photo/American-Airlines/McDonnell-Douglas-MD-82-%28DC-9-82%29/3947087

Here is one of my photos from the retirement yesterday.


Sweet photo! Well done!
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Re: AAL to retire 20 MD-80's on 23rd August 2016

Thu Aug 25, 2016 3:18 pm

JetBuddy wrote:
A great article about this, looking especially at one of the frames that were retired:

http://airwaysmag.com/airchive/american ... -20-md-80/

A link well worth reading.

1. These 20 MD-80s were coming up on C-checks
2. There is now only one Chinese built MD-80 still flying for AA. 3 of the MD-80 retired in this batch were 'Made in China.'

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Re: AAL to retire 20 MD-80's on 23rd August 2016

Thu Aug 25, 2016 4:13 pm

lightsaber wrote:
JetBuddy wrote:
A great article about this, looking especially at one of the frames that were retired:

http://airwaysmag.com/airchive/american ... -20-md-80/

A link well worth reading.

1. These 20 MD-80s were coming up on C-checks
2. There is now only one Chinese built MD-80 still flying for AA. 3 of the MD-80 retired in this batch were 'Made in China.'

Lightsaber


Loved(!!!) that article. Oh man, what mixed feelings. Sure the S80s are a gas hog, but IMO infinitely more comfortable than the 738s. You can really tell that the seat is an inch wider, plus the increased pitch (especially in MCE) is much appreciated. Not to mention 16 F seats in the current config so really excellent odds of upgrading! Really incredible just how important the S80 was to AA all these years - to think I've flown in an AA S80 literally everywhere - EWR, DFW, OKC, MKE, and many places in between. As an OKC resident I'm gonna make it a point to get on as many S80 flights as I can prior to retirement.
 
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Re: AAL to retire 20 MD-80's on 23rd August 2016

Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:01 pm

Will DL be the the largest customer for these parts?
 
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Re: AAL to retire 20 MD-80's on 23rd August 2016

Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:29 pm

aadc10137 wrote:
https://www.airliners.net/photo/American-Airlines/McDonnell-Douglas-MD-82-%28DC-9-82%29/3947087

Here is one of my photos from the retirement yesterday.


Nice photo, though the caption says "9 are shown..." but I clearly see 10 in the foreground.
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Re: AAL to retire 20 MD-80's on 23rd August 2016

Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:46 pm

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N565AA Retirement 08/23/2016 .
FLL departure in pictures. See gallery below:

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Thanks so much for the photos. Why did a Mad Dog do a last flight from FLL?
 
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Re: AAL to retire 20 MD-80's on 23rd August 2016

Thu Aug 25, 2016 6:12 pm

I'm a bit confused. The Airways article states there are still 61 left. That is quite a lot, actually. Why are so many airports losing them entirely? So what airports still see AA MD-80s?



dfwjim1 wrote:
Why did a Mad Dog do a last flight from FLL?


I'm curious about that too. I thought the Mad Dogs were long gone from FLL. I haven't seen one there in about 3 years.




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The MD-80 wasn't glamorous, unlike some of the other aircraft in the fleet. The 757s are noted for their ability to climb out of airports at high altitudes or with short runways. The 767s used to do the trans-cons, often with one or more celebrities on board. The 777s were the planes that flew to the truly far-off destinations.


Of course they are glamorous...they're LOUD !
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Re: AAL to retire 20 MD-80's on 23rd August 2016

Thu Aug 25, 2016 6:27 pm

ckfred wrote:
The MD-80 wasn't glamorous...


I agree with you. Nevertheless, the MD-80 shaped the visual image of a large number of operators in a positive way. The elegance and sleek lines underscored good liveries of airlines in a very effective way.

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Re: AAL to retire 20 MD-80's on 23rd August 2016

Thu Aug 25, 2016 7:34 pm

dfwjim1 wrote:

Thanks so much for the photos. Why did a Mad Dog do a last flight from FLL?


Because the beAAncounters found that there was either 1. An amount of people who were interested in going DFW-FLL outside of the usual traffic interest that would have covered the cost (an 'extra section'), or 2. AA could plug a MD-80 on DFW-FLL and let an A319 go to maint, fly a charter or any number of other things.

IMO, YMMV :D
 
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Re: AAL to retire 20 MD-80's on 23rd August 2016

Thu Aug 25, 2016 7:49 pm

727LOVER wrote:
I'm a bit confused. The Airways article states there are still 61 left. That is quite a lot, actually. Why are so many airports losing them entirely? So what airports still see AA MD-80s?


Just because they're still in the fleet doesn't mean they're regularly operational. I thought I had read somewhere that they keep several around just to act as spares when other MD80s go tech.

This isn't an all inclusive list, just what I can think of of the top of my head....

STL
DFW
ORD
LAX
AUS
TUS
PIT
MCI
RIC
CMH
BNA
MSY
RDU
OMA
PNS

You can get a pretty good idea where they go by searching departures for DFW, and to a lesser extent, ORD, for MD80s on Flightaware.
 
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Re: AAL to retire 20 MD-80's on 23rd August 2016

Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:05 pm

777PHX wrote:
727LOVER wrote:
I'm a bit confused. The Airways article states there are still 61 left. That is quite a lot, actually. Why are so many airports losing them entirely? So what airports still see AA MD-80s?


Just because they're still in the fleet doesn't mean they're regularly operational. I thought I had read somewhere that they keep several around just to act as spares when other MD80s go tech.


Depending on how many you mean by "several," this is really no different than any other airline or fleet type.
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Re: AAL to retire 20 MD-80's on 23rd August 2016

Fri Aug 26, 2016 3:57 am

hOMSaR wrote:
aadc10137 wrote:
https://www.airliners.net/photo/American-Airlines/McDonnell-Douglas-MD-82-%28DC-9-82%29/3947087

Here is one of my photos from the retirement yesterday.


Nice photo, though the caption says "9 are shown..." but I clearly see 10 in the foreground.


Typo on my part. I put the correction request in but it hasn't updated yet.
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Re: AAL to retire 20 MD-80's on 23rd August 2016

Fri Aug 26, 2016 12:57 pm

727LOVER wrote:
I'm a bit confused. The Airways article states there are still 61 left. That is quite a lot, actually. Why are so many airports losing them entirely? So what airports still see AA MD-80s?



dfwjim1 wrote:
Why did a Mad Dog do a last flight from FLL?


I'm curious about that too. I thought the Mad Dogs were long gone from FLL. I haven't seen one there in about 3 years.


Actually, this past Christmas season, on two consecutive Saturdays, an MD-80 was scheduled to FLL. The first Saturday (would have been the Saturday before Christmas), I was actually driving northbound on I-95 past FLL, and glanced over at 10L, and the MD was positioning to take off. I think I did a triple take (good thing that the traffic was not heavy) :mrgreen:
IIRC, it was an ORD-FLL-ORD turn. The next Saturday, I happened to see it on FR24. Unfortunately, circumstances kept me form going out and spotting it :( I suspect that won't happen this Christmas season.
 
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Re: AAL to retire 20 MD-80's on 23rd August 2016

Fri Aug 26, 2016 1:06 pm

I'll miss these wonderful aircraft dearly. They're not the most efficient planes, but it's design is what makes it stand out amongst other aircraft. I hope the final flight is one worth remembering.
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Re: AAL to retire 20 MD-80's on 23rd August 2016

Fri Aug 26, 2016 2:19 pm

Jco613 noted:The Super 80 was a horrible plane as a passenger, but there is something about the bare metal shine on a sunny day that is just intoxicating.


I respectfully disagree..the 2 seat side was ( still is) far more comfortable than any 3 and 3 Boeing or Airbus..sorry.. Over the hundreds of MD 80 series flights since 1985 I usually sat in 9,10 or 11 A and enjoyed the quiet. OK, NO AVOD....I always had reading material or took a quiet snooze. Now they wern't the fasted thing in the air, usually plodding along at FL 28-32 where you just run a bit slower. But, you know, you always got there! and most the few times I have been in really bad turbulence, it was in an MD80..and damn glad. Based on a design of years ago, yes, but built like a tank.

Yes, their time is slowly running out..as all things do..perhaps some day designers will go back to a similar design with all new materials, etc. It will be refreshing thing then to mix in the parade of 737s, 321's and 320's.
 
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Re: AAL to retire 20 MD-80's on 23rd August 2016

Fri Aug 26, 2016 8:53 pm

Just made a reservation on AA for April from DFW to RIC, and it is still an MD-80. Of course, that could change in the meantime. But I hope it won't.

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Re: AAL to retire 20 MD-80's on 23rd August 2016

Sun Aug 28, 2016 5:14 am

The media coverage for the Tues 8/23 mass retirement shows how special the MD80 is. And it has been so refreshing to see the appreciation and respect on the forum mostly drown out the few, but persistent haters on the forum. The AA MD80 retirement is almost sacred at the historian level. Airline/aircraft type combination.

When you consider all of the unique elements of the airplane, it's easy to see why the MD80 is so special to many enthusiasts and professionals/retirees alike: It's overall design - The technical capabilities for it's time, the lifetime of operational durability, 2/3 seating, T-tail, rear-engine, last generation of the JT8D, clean-wing design, mixed analog/EFIS flightdecks....etc etc - The conclusion is the MD80 has more character than any other narrowbody flying today. But perhaps the checkmate is that the MD80's certified limits for flight cycles/hours (equaled only by the MD90) are unmatched in FAA history.
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Re: AAL to retire 20 MD-80's on 23rd August 2016

Sun Aug 28, 2016 5:43 am

DeltaMD95 wrote:
mixed analog/EFIS flightdecks

Don't forget the "one of every kind" selection of switches and knobs, among a raft of other interesting and intriguing front-office features:

https://youtu.be/7R0CViDUBFs

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Re: AAL to retire 20 MD-80's on 23rd August 2016

Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:55 pm

DeltaMD95 wrote:
the MD80's certified limits for flight cycles/hours (equaled only by the MD90) are unmatched in FAA history.



I sure would love to see an MD-80RE for this reason. Plenty of life left on the frame, fuel consumption is the issue.
 
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Re: AAL to retire 20 MD-80's on 23rd August 2016

Thu Sep 01, 2016 11:44 pm

dfwjim1 wrote:
eksath wrote:
N565AA Retirement 08/23/2016 .
FLL departure in pictures. See gallery below:

Image

Image

The rest of the gallery is here at:
http://www.atapattu.net/Special-Project ... /n-hwTw32/


Thanks so much for the photos. Why did a Mad Dog do a last flight from FLL?


Sorry. I just saw your question. This particular aircraft flew in the night before on a revenue flight from Chicago. It was RON and then departed in the morning to Roswell for retirement. Hope that helps.
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