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Sun Sep 04, 2016 7:24 am

Good morning folks and welcome to our 11th thread of 2016. Our last thread was one of the longest running I can remember, no doubt in part due to the changes to the forum. Although it's Summer, usually a quiet time for airline news, there have been some significant developments:

- EI announces two new A330s; their latest arrived this week and immediately began service on the new EWR route - very fortuitous timing!
- Some significant changes in frequencies: UA, EY and TK announce reductions and AY an increase. FR making noises about reductions, but it's mostly a negotiating tactic with the DAA.
- New J class lounge at DUB, 51st and Green
- Norwegian US flights still a political football; now Hilary Clinton weighing in against, but MEPs call for arbitration.
- FR becomes first airline IN THE WORLD to exceed 11m pax in one month!
- While Aer Lingus welcomes its latest A330-300, its very first, the former EI-SHN (latterly with Air Asia X) has gone to Marana, with a not particularly bright future ahead of it,
- Stobart Air sale to Cityjet to be completed this month.

Well, let's hope we see some positive developments this month and that the last quarter sees the positive trend in traffic numbers continue.

Enjoy!
 
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Sun Sep 04, 2016 7:28 am

Link to previous discussion:

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Sun Sep 04, 2016 10:32 am

Thanks for a new thread.


Experts’ bill rises for Metro North rail project

State spent a total of €165 million on design, procurement, property costs
Metro North is shaping up to be a gravy train for consultants – again.
The state spent a total of €165 million on design, procurement, property costs and enabling works for the first Metro North rail project from St Stephen’s Green to Dublin Airport and then Swords.

https://www.businesspost.ie/experts-bil ... l-project/

Maybe some of the ''refund'' of the Apple taxes will be diverted to this ;)

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Pilots express safety concerns over Dublin Airport plan

Second appeal to An Bord Pleanala over airport expansion
The Irish Airline Pilots Association (IALPA) has raised more safety concerns over the planned expansions at Dublin Airport.
The Dublin Airport Authority is in the midst of an expansion of the Terminal 2 facility it built in 2010. Two of the planning permissions it has been granted by Fingal County Council have been appealed to An Bord Pleanála by IALPA, however.

https://www.businesspost.ie/pilots-expr ... port-plan/

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Interesting to see the expansion TATL of Thomas Cook airlines as mentioned on another thread. SFO gets a direct connection between MAN-SFO and may tempt some people away from the DUBHUB. It will be interesting to watch this route and future routes and the impact if any at DUB. TCX offer a pretty decent product and certainly a far cry from their charter origins.
 
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Sun Sep 04, 2016 10:45 am

Do you think we'll see some more information on Aer Club during this thread? Does anyone have an idea when the IT issues will be ironed out and we will be seeing a launch? I am curious as to whether they'll launch it before the end of the year.
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Sun Sep 04, 2016 10:53 am

Interesting to see the expansion TATL of Thomas Cook airlines as mentioned on another thread. SFO gets a direct connection between MAN-SFO and may tempt some people away from the DUBHUB. It will be interesting to watch this route and future routes and the impact if any at DUB. TCX offer a pretty decent product and certainly a far cry from their charter origins.


TCX are indeed building up quite the operation at Manchester, and at a decent price too along with Flybe connections to other UK airports. This could affect DUB in the 2 ways that:

A) Manchester is one of the larger feeders into the EI TATL flights as is, so, more flights direct from source means potentially less connections
and
B) there are on a average, about 30-70 connections off the TCX long haul flights into the Flybe network that may have used a connection from DUB (or elsewhere).

That said, and like I mentioned on the SFO-MAN thread, DUB and MAN can still compliment each other quite well.
The 2 main advantages that DUB that can help MAN are USPBC (for now) and the higher volume on key routes like JFK/EWR/BOS and ORD. It also has 2 destinations that are not served from MAN in Charlotte and Hartford, with potentially Dallas to follow.

MAN can help DUB with the Volume to Florida and potentially JFK, but also has the un served destinations in Las Vegas and Houston, with rumours of Detroit and San Diego to follow.

It's also worth noting Virgin are also ones to watch, as they are doing a similar thing to TCX with Flybe feed onto their routes from MAN (SFO/BOS/JFK/ATL/LAS/MCO), and even if people don't think TCX are on par with EI, VS are certainly very close!
 
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Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:27 am

EI have added a second daily A330 to AGP on Sundays until 2 October, will now operate up to x5 daily ex DUB on Sundays (FR largely just x2 daily). ACE is also up to x12 weekly for a period, LPA up to x5 weekly, TFS also up to x6 weekly. FAO capacity also up significantly.

Think we may see more Med A330 flights next summer. EI appear to be having a very strong September, not seen for some time.

Turning to city pairs between both EI/FR
LIS - EI flying daily for most of winter an increase of 2 weekly while FR drop to x6 weekly
AMS - EI restore 3/7 (fifth daily) service, this was before KLM announced DUB so good to see strong recovery like AMS/LIS cuts when FR first move onto them
 
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Sun Sep 04, 2016 1:08 pm

ClassicLover wrote:
Do you think we'll see some more information on Aer Club during this thread? Does anyone have an idea when the IT issues will be ironed out and we will be seeing a launch? I am curious as to whether they'll launch it before the end of the year.


I have heard some people say that it won't be released until Aer Lingus joins one world, but that seems unlikely to me. Let's hope they stay on this delayed schedule and launch the program towards the end of 2016.

Ryanair is expected to announce a return to VIT (Vitoria, Northern Spain) on 9 September. DUB is a possible destination, and its likelihood is higher than other cities on the list because FR operated the route in 2007. STN is the only other airport specifically mentioned. They may also choose Italian, Portuguese, or Eastern European destinations as well as airports in the south of Spain and the Canary Islands.

http://m.elcorreo.com/alava/araba/201609/02/ryanair-podria-comenzar-operar-20160901210018.html
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Sun Sep 04, 2016 2:48 pm

Given the current thread title, here are a couple of news links from DFW area media during the last week to add fuel to speculation about possible EI service to DFW.
http://www.star-telegram.com/news/busin ... 96832.html
http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/dfw-airp ... /311782294
While this incentive package is different from the BDL offering, is it enough to see EI commence flights to DFW?
Currently there are 4 daily flights serving DFW/LHR (3 AA and 1 BA) and with the amount of Ireland/UK connections on existing EI T/A services, a DUB/DFW service with DFW financial assistance could well be part of upcoming EI route expansion. Add future probable EI membership of Oneworld with connectivity from AA at their DFW home field and you have another positive factor for the service.
Something else which really has no commercial bearing on the route decision, but puts an additional Irish angle on speculation.
Not sure how many Irish fans on the forum know that the CEO of DFW airport is one Sean Donohue. Not Irish born, but just another twist in the story.
http://www.dmagazine.com/publications/d ... l-airport/
Personally looking forward to a nonstop, and would have no regrets not transiting to DUB via EWR,ORD,FRA and elsewhere in future.
 
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Sun Sep 04, 2016 3:09 pm

IrishTexan wrote:
Given the current thread title, here are a couple of news links from DFW area media during the last week to add fuel to speculation about possible EI service to DFW.
http://www.star-telegram.com/news/busin ... 96832.html
http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/dfw-airp ... /311782294
While this incentive package is different from the BDL offering, is it enough to see EI commence flights to DFW?
Currently there are 4 daily flights serving DFW/LHR (3 AA and 1 BA) and with the amount of Ireland/UK connections on existing EI T/A services, a DUB/DFW service with DFW financial assistance could well be part of upcoming EI route expansion. Add future probable EI membership of Oneworld with connectivity from AA at their DFW home field and you have another positive factor for the service.
Something else which really has no commercial bearing on the route decision, but puts an additional Irish angle on speculation.
Not sure how many Irish fans on the forum know that the CEO of DFW airport is one Sean Donohue. Not Irish born, but just another twist in the story.
http://www.dmagazine.com/publications/d ... l-airport/
Personally looking forward to a nonstop, and would have no regrets not transiting to DUB via EWR,ORD,FRA and elsewhere in future.


Unless EI have a sudden change of mind DFW will not happen for summer 2017. It will happen but not next year.
 
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Sun Sep 04, 2016 3:55 pm

JAmie2k9 wrote:
Unless EI have a sudden change of mind DFW will not happen for summer 2017. It will happen but not next year.


Are they still expected to annouce new routes for 2017? With 3 more A333 on order is there a chance that they'll use them solely to replace older A332s?
 
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Sun Sep 04, 2016 4:04 pm

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It's also worth noting Virgin are also ones to watch


VS still manage to pick up a decent amount of Irish based traffic via MAN and LGW to the USA. Especially for those travelling with families as VS have a good brand recognition in Ireland and have a reputation for being ''family friendly''.
 
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Sun Sep 04, 2016 5:23 pm

321neo wrote:
JAmie2k9 wrote:
Unless EI have a sudden change of mind DFW will not happen for summer 2017. It will happen but not next year.


Are they still expected to annouce new routes for 2017? With 3 more A333 on order is there a chance that they'll use them solely to replace older A332s?


Yes if it's not this month then management needs to get it together.

The x2 A333 arriving/arrived this month are in full use in S17. There is then at least x1 due for late May start. I don't know if the second will arrive at the same time but recall a post here or boards suggesting they will be a few months apart going by airbus order numbers. Guess they could lets say if the second is due by September add something else then/.
 
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Sun Sep 04, 2016 5:42 pm

Is there any chance of another 757 at ASL? Plenty of time to get one in still and they have apparently been tyre-kicking for ages. YUL would be in range and daily on 757 may work better for transfers than 3/4x on a 330.
 
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Sun Sep 04, 2016 9:41 pm

We also need an additional 332 to be based at SNN for the BOS route to replace the 762 hire-in from OY. :)
 
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Sun Sep 04, 2016 9:52 pm

Any news on QR's planned DOH service?
 
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Tue Sep 06, 2016 2:51 am

Last night's EI. 588 to AGP, operated by EI-DEL, had to return to DUB due to multiple birdstrikes and the shutdown of the No1 engine.

There was also a report suggesting an issue with the landing gear (though this was contradicted).

Anyway, all ended well (well, apart from the birds) and the acft returned safely.
 
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Tue Sep 06, 2016 7:31 am

Protesters disrupt flights at London City Airport

A Cityjet flight from London, which was due in Dublin Airport at 8am has been cancelled, while a British Airways flight has been delayed for several hours.

A number of flights which were due to leave Dublin for LCY this morning have also been affected.

Meanwhile, British Airways has apologised to passengers for delays after an IT glitch hit check-in systems.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/0906/814482 ... y-airport/
 
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Wed Sep 07, 2016 9:11 am

Sacked for ‘taking binned magazine’

A 53-year-old airline security man said yesterday that he was sacked for taking a €4.50 copy of Time magazine off an aircraft because “management was out to get me”.
On the third day of an unfair dismissal claim case at the Employment Appeals Tribunal, Tim Marks said “there was a definite campaign to get me just because I saw fit to raise concerns over the work environment” at ICTS Ireland’s operation at Shannon Airport.

Former employee of ICTS Ireland Ltd, Mr Marks was fired on November 1, 2014, for the theft of the magazine from a rubbish bag on the stairwell of a United Airlines aircraft at Shannon Airport on October 22.

The company said the magazine theft amounted to gross misconduct.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/sa ... 19705.html
 
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Wed Sep 07, 2016 10:26 am

The next A333 for Aer Lingus has been spotted.

Image330.302 AER LINGUS F-WWKH 1744 TO EI-FNH 06 09 16 TLS by L'AMI DU TARMAC, on Flickr

The aircraft, EI-FNH, will be named Saint Laurence O'Toole which was previously used on EI-EWR during its original stint at Aer Lingus before it recently returned as Saint Thomas.
 
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Wed Sep 07, 2016 1:26 pm

LDY will receive a boost tomorrow with the return of known brand in 2017, most should be able to guess!

Schedule to run for 9 weeks.
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Wed Sep 07, 2016 1:52 pm

A new summer sun service from Derry in 2017 is to be announced tomorrow.

The provider has not been named, but it will not be Ryanair, according to the Chairperson of the board of City of Derry Airport Roy Devine, who spoke on the Shaun Doherty Show today.

Mr Devine also confirmed the airport is trying attract other carriers, and is particularly anxious to restore a Dublin service.

Last evening, airport management briefed Derry and Strabane District Council on the need for continued subventions over the next five years to keep the airport functioning.

http://www.highlandradio.com/2016/09/07 ... ubvention/
 
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Wed Sep 07, 2016 6:08 pm

Ryanair's latest 737-800, EI-FRV, landed in Dublin at 15:10 today.
 
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Wed Sep 07, 2016 6:57 pm

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Sacked for ‘taking binned magazine’

A 53-year-old airline security man said yesterday that he was sacked for taking a €4.50 copy of Time magazine off an aircraft because “management was out to get me”.
On the third day of an unfair dismissal claim case at the Employment Appeals Tribunal, Tim Marks said “there was a definite campaign to get me just because I saw fit to raise concerns over the work environment” at ICTS Ireland’s operation at Shannon Airport.

Former employee of ICTS Ireland Ltd, Mr Marks was fired on November 1, 2014, for the theft of the magazine from a rubbish bag on the stairwell of a United Airlines aircraft at Shannon Airport on October 22.

The company said the magazine theft amounted to gross misconduct.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/sa ... 19705.html


That's ridiculous; certainly sounds like they were out to get him. Taking an already binned magazine can hardly qualify as theft.

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Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:42 am

DAA unions 'sharpen scalpel' on pay talks as dividend is revealed

Tensions between trade unions and the DAA flared yesterday as crucial talks on a new operational and pay structure restarted, after it emerged that the airport operator paid an €18.3m dividend to the State last month but didn't tell staff.

Siptu official Greg Ennis - who was at yesterday's talks - expressed shock when the Irish Independent revealed to him that the dividend had been paid, and said it was "at best, a show of bad faith" by DAA management.
He said that in light of the dividend having been paid, that the union would no "sharpen its scalpel" with regard to pay talks that started again yesterday after a summer break.
"It will make a difference to the negotiations that are about to commence," he said.

http://www.independent.ie/business/iris ... 30064.html
 
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Thu Sep 08, 2016 5:18 pm

GEORGE Best Belfast City Airport has smashed its international passenger numbers record - and there's a third of the year still to go.

The end of August saw the airport beat the previous annual high of 171,270, set last year, with the 2016 figure having now climbed to 200,977.

http://www.irishnews.com/business/2016/ ... rs-688029/
 
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Thu Sep 08, 2016 7:14 pm

The new WOW Air flight to Miami is an interesting one. The flights from Dublin are priced at €139.00 each way which is very competitive. The bag fees are outrageous though! For a large carry on (the usual largest size on other carriers) it's €47.00!! A hold bag is €63.00! These are each way, so the price will rack up very quickly. I am curious how many people will book at the low fare and get stung with the extra fees. I'm not sure how I would go on a long haul low cost flight. It's tempting as I am due to go to Miami in May, but I think I might stick with the usual carriers.
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Fri Sep 09, 2016 7:52 am

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I am curious how many people will book at the low fare and get stung with the extra fees.


I done a dummy booking when I heard about the route and the price for 2 return came out at €1529.80 before I added bags. Skyscanner threw up flights on the same dates with EI via EWR for €1195.00, or €1196.00 if you wanna travel trough BOS

I'm continually amazed at how they manage to pass themselves off as being cheaper than anyone else, when its a fact that they are not.
 
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Fri Sep 09, 2016 8:22 am

RRTrent wrote:
ClassicLover wrote:
I am curious how many people will book at the low fare and get stung with the extra fees.



I'm continually amazed at how they manage to pass themselves off as being cheaper than anyone else, when its a fact that they are not.


Agreed. Its called marketing. I did some dummy bookings and the same thing. With the current KLM seat sale on out of DUB and BHD they wipe the board with most carriers out of Ireland at present. Some great routings too with DL AZ KL AF etc...
 
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Fri Sep 09, 2016 12:31 pm

A330 production is increasing to 7 a month (from 6) from January, which assuming no production order changes (which is a huge assumption that's bound to be incorrect, at least for some airlines) will move EI's two new birds a little earlier.

1791 is the first - we're at about 1745 delivered, so about 6 months from now; 1831 is the next which would then only be about 4 months later
 
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Fri Sep 09, 2016 9:43 pm

Here's a few cabin shots of EI-FNG, the economy class features new seats and IFE systems.

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Not much change in the overall appearance of the cabin but the seats do look nicer in my opinion. Business Class remains the same obviously!

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Sat Sep 10, 2016 8:47 am

19% increase in traffic for Cork Airport in August

A host of new destinations on offer to its customers meant Cork Airport enjoyed a 19% increase in air traffic last month, compared to August 2015.
The airport’s managing director Niall MacCarthy said the Irish Aviation Authority figures proved Cork was the fastest growing airport in the country in terms of aircraft movements.

Overall, Cork handled 2,060 terminal movements last month, an increase of 24%. Dublin handled 19,872, up 9.6%, and Shannon handled 1,834, up 6.1%.

Cork Airport said August was its busiest month to date in 2016, with an average of 66 daily movements.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/19 ... 20298.html
 
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Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:12 pm

Anyone seen this? They've done well again.

http://blog.aerlingus.com/blog/2016/09/ ... runway-run
 
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scorpo wrote:
Anyone seen this? They've done well again.

http://blog.aerlingus.com/blog/2016/09/ ... runway-run

Fair play to them! Bit of a fun and a good cause, the publicity attached is an added bonus as well.
 
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Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:59 pm

Delta have pulled A333 ops over winter and will return a B764 to JFK (except for 18 Dec-9 Jan) and they will drop a weekly flight beginning 11 Jan-8 Mar.

EI to JFK (up slightly during period) and of course EI/UA big capacity increase to EWR.
 
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Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:35 pm

RRTrent wrote:
ClassicLover wrote:
I am curious how many people will book at the low fare and get stung with the extra fees.


I done a dummy booking when I heard about the route and the price for 2 return came out at €1529.80 before I added bags. Skyscanner threw up flights on the same dates with EI via EWR for €1195.00, or €1196.00 if you wanna travel trough BOS

I'm continually amazed at how they manage to pass themselves off as being cheaper than anyone else, when its a fact that they are not.


For short city stays (3-4 nights) - they can be a very cheap option if you pack wisely. 10 kg is pretty generous for small carry on weight (LH allows only 8kg though transatlantic flights include a checked bag) but the size can constrict you.

DY has some better deals and in my opinion TCX has the best deal with flights under $500 with bags.

User001 wrote:
B) there are on a average, about 30-70 connections off the TCX long haul flights into the Flybe network that may have used a connection from DUB (or elsewhere).


Is this per TCX transatlantic flight or is this daily connections?


User001 wrote:

It's also worth noting Virgin are also ones to watch, as they are doing a similar thing to TCX with Flybe feed onto their routes from MAN (SFO/BOS/JFK/ATL/LAS/MCO), and even if people don't think TCX are on par with EI, VS are certainly very close!


B6 is also feeding TCX JFK flights starting next week and once B6 extends summer schedule BOS flights will also be able to take feed. I think that is part of the reason for expanding MAN-BOS is this new interline agreement. This could be something that affects the "DUBHUB" for sure.
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Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:21 pm

Hello! long time lurker and first time poster on this site, I would like to share my experiences with Aer Lingus this past March flying IAD-DUB-FCO and return on the A330-200 and A320 in Y.

To start, all 4 flight were completely full.

I flew EI-EWR from IAD-DUB and I was impressed with the legroom and IFE compared to the previous United flights I had taken to Dublin.
My family and I preordered the premium meals, both the chicken and steak. They were delicious however the meals were tiny portions so I'm not sure if the $22USD was worth it. The Mediterranean "salad" was only one tiny slice of bell pepper, one slice of zucchini and one slice of sundried tomato and some crumbled feta cheese. In addition the dessert wasn't the advertised panna cota, but instead was some butterscotch pudding that was the same dessert that everyone with the standard economy meals got.

Transfer in Dublin was excellent and we didn't need to go through customs as everyone had to go through customs in FCO.

Flights to and from Rome were on the A320. Both standard short-haul European flights. Arriving in Rome we had to use a remote stand both times with the ULCC like Ryanair, Easyjet and Thomson. On the way back we had a single day layover in Dublin which we spent with my relatives who lived nearby. It was a pain to get back to Dublin airport because most of the city was shut down with the 100th year of the Easter Rising.

The return flight to IAD was on EI-DUO and my family got free exit row seating which was a big plus. We got the standard economy meals which were not very good. The choices were chicken curry and some kind of beef stew. Once again enjoyed the IFE with a very current collection of movies.

Overall it was a great experience and a great price ($925 )with EI!
 
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Sun Sep 11, 2016 11:47 am

Nice to hear you had a positive experience. Is does seem that in general the inflight dining on EI could do with a shake up, and certainly if you pre-order the better meal you should be rewarded with decent portions. Most passengers don't have good things to say about EI IFE, I'm glad you found it good. Perhaps they've expanded the selection available recently?

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Interestingly the new 333s -FNG and -FNH do not have bulkhead LCD monitors in order to improve efficiency. Apparently over the service lifetime of the aircraft this weight saving is significant.
 
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Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:13 am

Aer Lingus smartens service for ‘guests’ – just don't be late

Airline had ‘let slip’ its understanding of why people travel, says chief operating officer

Air passengers who flew with Aer Lingus this summer may have noticed new practices at check-in and boarding. The airline has been cracking down on lateness, changing how it invites passengers to board and encouraging flyers from Dublin Airport to use new self-service stations to weigh and tag their luggage.

Mike Rutter, Aer Lingus’s chief operating officer, said it had shaved seven minutes off average boarding times by “simplifying” how it does it. And having traditionally lagged Ryanair on punctuality, Aer Lingus has landed ahead of the short-haul pack at Dublin for each of the first eight months of 2016 – “a complete reversal” of its earlier record.

Punctuality cuts both ways. Passengers may find Aer Lingus’s tolerance for latecomers is not what it used to be, with the airline no longer risking delays to departures purely to suit those who show up late to the gate.

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/tran ... -1.2787494
 
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Re: Irish 11/16: oh, the places we'll go!

Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:23 am

OA260 wrote:
Aer Lingus smartens service for ‘guests’ – just don't be late

Airline had ‘let slip’ its understanding of why people travel, says chief operating officer

Air passengers who flew with Aer Lingus this summer may have noticed new practices at check-in and boarding. The airline has been cracking down on lateness, changing how it invites passengers to board and encouraging flyers from Dublin Airport to use new self-service stations to weigh and tag their luggage.

Mike Rutter, Aer Lingus’s chief operating officer, said it had shaved seven minutes off average boarding times by “simplifying” how it does it. And having traditionally lagged Ryanair on punctuality, Aer Lingus has landed ahead of the short-haul pack at Dublin for each of the first eight months of 2016 – “a complete reversal” of its earlier record.

Punctuality cuts both ways. Passengers may find Aer Lingus’s tolerance for latecomers is not what it used to be, with the airline no longer risking delays to departures purely to suit those who show up late to the gate.

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/tran ... -1.2787494



I've zero sympathy for anyone who turns up late, especially to the gate. Get out of the duty free or the pub, or check in earlier....
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Re: Irish 11/16: oh, the places we'll go!

Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:29 am

OA260 wrote:
And having traditionally lagged Ryanair on punctuality, Aer Lingus has landed ahead of the short-haul pack at Dublin for each of the first eight months of 2016 – “a complete reversal” of its earlier record.

Now that's some turn around! I knew they'd managed it for the first 6 months of the year but it's impressive to see them continue this during the busy summer months.

Aer Lingus is also the most punctual of the IAG group and still one of most punctual airlines at Heathrow.
 
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Mon Sep 12, 2016 6:38 pm

A NEW SECURITY screening system, which could halve the time spent in security, is being trialled at Shannon Airport.

Shannon is the first airport in the world to trial the new pre-clearance checkpoint, which was developed as part of an EU funded project. It will mean passengers flying to the US will no longer have to queue twice for separate security checks.

The new approach combines European and US pre-clearance checkpoints and the airport said this trial will show how a checkpoint can be designed to comply with two different sets of regulations.

This combined checkpoint is the first of its kind in the world and has been designed to improve customer experience.

http://www.thejournal.ie/shannon-airpor ... 6-Sep2016/
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Would be fantastic to see it work out and rolled out at SNN and DUB.
 
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Re: Irish 11/16: oh, the places we'll go!

Tue Sep 13, 2016 11:35 am

Things are not looking great for LDY with FR reportly dropping London and Faro according to the Derry Journal and Liverpool is released for 2017 but reduced to 2 weekly.

However it is reported:
The Northern Ireland Executive is preparing a multi-million pound package to transform City of Derry Airport amid major concerns that Ryanair may scrap its London route, it has been reported.

Read more at: http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/busine ... -1-7574224
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The above is now confirmed. Guess Flybe may be the only option left.
http://www.donegalnow.com/news/ryanair- ... don/117011
 
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Re: Irish 11/16: oh, the places we'll go!

Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:35 pm

shamrock350 wrote:
OA260 wrote:
And having traditionally lagged Ryanair on punctuality, Aer Lingus has landed ahead of the short-haul pack at Dublin for each of the first eight months of 2016 – “a complete reversal” of its earlier record.

Now that's some turn around! I knew they'd managed it for the first 6 months of the year but it's impressive to see them continue this during the busy summer months.

Aer Lingus is also the most punctual of the IAG group and still one of most punctual airlines at Heathrow.



I may have misunderstood, but aren't IB and I2 some of the most punctual airlines in the world? I have no doubt that EI is punctual, but it seems odd that they would be the most on-time carrier in IAG. Again, I may be wrong.
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Re: Irish 11/16: oh, the places we'll go!

Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:54 pm

JAmie2k9 wrote:
Things are not looking great for LDY with FR reportly dropping London and Faro according to the Derry Journal and Liverpool is released for 2017 but reduced to 2 weekly.


The above is now confirmed. Guess Flybe may be the only option left.
http://www.donegalnow.com/news/ryanair- ... don/117011


Could Be!
A spokesman on BBC NI news a moment ago said that possible more frequent services to other London area airports were possible when FR end services to Stansted next March.
 
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Re: Irish 11/16: oh, the places we'll go!

Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:13 pm

hispanola wrote:
shamrock350 wrote:
OA260 wrote:
And having traditionally lagged Ryanair on punctuality, Aer Lingus has landed ahead of the short-haul pack at Dublin for each of the first eight months of 2016 – “a complete reversal” of its earlier record.

Now that's some turn around! I knew they'd managed it for the first 6 months of the year but it's impressive to see them continue this during the busy summer months.

Aer Lingus is also the most punctual of the IAG group and still one of most punctual airlines at Heathrow.



I may have misunderstood, but aren't IB and I2 some of the most punctual airlines in the world? I have no doubt that EI is punctual, but it seems odd that they would be the most on-time carrier in IAG. Again, I may be wrong.


Indeed IB/I2 do have a very good record I believe, in a Flight Stats poll they came 2nd in 2015 behind JAL. Rarely are my IB/I2 flights delayed.
 
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Re: Irish 11/16: oh, the places we'll go!

Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:11 am

hispanola wrote:
shamrock350 wrote:
OA260 wrote:
And having traditionally lagged Ryanair on punctuality, Aer Lingus has landed ahead of the short-haul pack at Dublin for each of the first eight months of 2016 – “a complete reversal” of its earlier record.

Now that's some turn around! I knew they'd managed it for the first 6 months of the year but it's impressive to see them continue this during the busy summer months.

Aer Lingus is also the most punctual of the IAG group and still one of most punctual airlines at Heathrow.



I may have misunderstood, but aren't IB and I2 some of the most punctual airlines in the world? I have no doubt that EI is punctual, but it seems odd that they would be the most on-time carrier in IAG. Again, I may be wrong.

It was said in an internal video from Aer Lingus, can't remember the exact details but for much of this year they had apparently out-performed their IAG partners in punctuality.
 
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Re: Irish 11/16: oh, the places we'll go!

Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:08 pm

Anyone have any updates on the EI route announcements? Thought it would by now.
 
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Re: Irish 11/16: oh, the places we'll go!

Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:24 pm

EI121 wrote:
Anyone have any updates on the EI route announcements? Thought it would by now.


The current management like to put things n the long finger so who know's. If it's not soon they will start to lose out on potential customers.
 
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Re: Irish 11/16: oh, the places we'll go!

Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:36 pm

Aer Lingus' 80th anniversary may have been a rather low key event here but 'Iolar' has continued the celebrations with a number of commemorative flights including today's to LPL which marked 80 years of flights between Dublin and Liverpool.

ITV Granada in the UK had a brief report on EI-ABI's visit.

http://www.itv.com/news/granada/update/ ... to-dublin/

EI-FAV makes an appearance at the end!
 
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Re: Irish 11/16: oh, the places we'll go!

Thu Sep 15, 2016 12:59 pm

I had a recent flight on I2. Quite what is LCC about I2 I'm not so sure. Presumably the crews T&Cs. The new IB/I2 livery is smart. The flight was bang on-time departing (MAD-MAN) and early arriving. The cabin was comfortable with standard IB grey/brown Recaro slim(ish)-line seats, but overall not as fresh as the FR cabin on the outbound. Overall though, a very good product. The crews seemed young and enthuastic - especially given that customer service in Spain isn't typically especially attentive.

Speaking of IAG airlines, has anyone been on the BA Cityflyer service operated for EI?

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