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AA to begin BTV-LGA

Fri Sep 09, 2016 6:21 pm

Per BTV's Facebook post, AA is starting/resuming US's old BTV-LGA route, begining December 15th.

Bookable starting tomorrow 9/10.

Anyone have any idea on aircraft they plan to use?

https://www.facebook.com/FlyBTV/?fref=ts
 
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ssteve
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Re: AA to begin BTV-LGA

Fri Sep 09, 2016 6:32 pm

No more Dash-8s?
 
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Re: AA to begin BTV-LGA

Fri Sep 09, 2016 6:47 pm

ssteve wrote:
No more Dash-8s?


They still have the Dash 8 though it is (slowly) being phased out over the next couple of years apparently. I am not sure they fly from LGA anymore though, they seem to be PHL-based mostly with some CLT.
 
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Re: AA to begin BTV-LGA

Fri Sep 09, 2016 9:57 pm

An old Mohawk, then Allegheny, then USAir route! :-)
 
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Re: AA to begin BTV-LGA

Fri Sep 09, 2016 11:22 pm

I used to fly the USAir route between LGA and BTV in the mid-1980s. At that time, it was often a 737-200/737-300 or F28/F100 route after the Piedmont acquisition/merger.
 
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Re: AA to begin BTV-LGA

Sat Sep 10, 2016 12:28 am

My guess is that the service would be run with Air Wisconsin CRJ-200s with 2 or 3 daily flights.
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Re: AA to begin BTV-LGA

Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:30 am

That's a lot of capacity on BTV-NYC, with soon-to-be four carriers (AA, DL, UA, B6) serving the market.
 
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Re: AA to begin BTV-LGA

Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:41 am

Considering the most recent round of cuts, this is a route that seems completely out of the blue. Hopefully the goal is to fly it on 2-class aircraft, no single class jets.

BTV is a weird market for AA. Didn't they completely stop serving BTV before they merged with US?
 
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Re: AA to begin BTV-LGA

Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:56 am

Great to hear something from BTV. The last news was months ago (when UA went double-daily on mainline to ORD).

piedmont762 wrote:
BTV is a weird market for AA. Didn't they completely stop serving BTV before they merged with US?


Yes, they stopped a long time ago. The last service on American Eagle was early 2000s (I think) and very short lived.
 
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Re: AA to begin BTV-LGA

Sun Sep 11, 2016 7:11 pm

B595 wrote:
Great to hear something from BTV. The last news was months ago (when UA went double-daily on mainline to ORD).

piedmont762 wrote:
BTV is a weird market for AA. Didn't they completely stop serving BTV before they merged with US?


Yes, they stopped a long time ago. The last service on American Eagle was early 2000s (I think) and very short lived.


I remember AE flying BTV-BOS in 2001 before 9/11. I looked up on departed flights and in 1999 they weren't flying into BTV at all - so super short lived.
 
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Re: AA to begin BTV-LGA

Sun Sep 11, 2016 7:16 pm

piedmont762 wrote:
I remember AE flying BTV-BOS in 2001 before 9/11. I looked up on departed flights and in 1999 they weren't flying into BTV at all - so super short lived.


AA/Eagle have flown to BTV twice in recent memory. The former Business Express BOS-BTV route operated with SAAB 340s up until 9/11, and then AA/Eagle started double-daily ERJs to ORD in May 2002, and that then ended shortly thereafter (I believe after that fall season).
 
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Re: AA to begin BTV-LGA

Sun Sep 11, 2016 7:25 pm

Schedule loaded - once daily Trans States ER4:

AA4169 LGA 1130 1303 BTV ER4
AA4169 BTV 1310 1438 LGA ER4

Based on the above schedule - mid-day and thus suboptimal for prime O&D - I suspect this is just a seasonal, utilization-driven slot sit. Additionally, the schedule may still be subject to change as things are firmed up in coming months, as the above reflects a 7-minute turnaround time in BTV (as of now this is the only ER4 scheduled into BTV in December).
 
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Re: AA to begin BTV-LGA

Sun Sep 11, 2016 7:56 pm

BTV-NYC has tons of capacity. Its pretty much the only market that is affordable out of BTV on a consistent basis. B6 to JFK, DL to LGA, UA to EWR. Now AA to LGA. I mean it has to be since the majority of traffic drives anyway. Cruise thru Burlington on a summer weekend half the cars are New Jersey, New York or Connecticut plates. Excellent news, really glad to see this back hope ORD is next even once a day would be great for AA.

The timing this is geared for connections. This is great news as on AA I always suffer with them having no ORD flight with connections great to offer this short hop as a new connection spot. I bet you they will use to feed alot of Florida and southeast flights mostly. Good feeder market for Florida/south flights to get a little bit higher fares in those seats then NYC o&d to Florida. Its a short hop but great to have another connection option on AA out of BTV :) Happy to see them get some new service rolling at BTV
 
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Re: AA to begin BTV-LGA

Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:03 pm

A source/news story on it. Also noted in it is AA is adding a 2x daily flight to CLT.

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/stor ... /90354682/
 
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Re: AA to begin BTV-LGA

Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:11 am

LGA is great news, however, 2x to CLT is almost the bigger story here. CLT offers so many connection opportunities. Great to have two time options now.
 
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Re: AA to begin BTV-LGA

Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:01 pm

Looks like a

8am and 4:15 departures out of BTV

1:30 and 8:50pm departures out of CLT

Pretty good times
 
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Re: AA to begin BTV-LGA

Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:02 pm

slcdeltarumd11 wrote:
Looks generally a

8am and 4:15 departures out of BTV

1:30 and 8:50pm departures out of CLT

Pretty good times, will offer some nice time advantages
 
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Re: AA to begin BTV-LGA

Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:39 pm

I am sort of impressed that AA ended up with enough slots at LGA to run almost everything they want, despite unloading so many slots to DL.

Is BTV the CHS of the north? Seems kind of affluent and trendy. I know CHS is on an upswing.
 
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Re: AA to begin BTV-LGA

Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:51 pm

7 MQ ERJ-145's are being moved to LGA. Expected to take some flying from air wisky
 
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Re: AA to begin BTV-LGA

Thu Sep 29, 2016 9:35 pm

Sounds like this move will be well received by New Yorkers and Vermonters alike. It's so great to see the smaller markets US brought into the AA fold thriving post-merger - especially those like BTV (and ABE, BFL, BOI, BUR, CRW, LGB, PVD, PWM, SBP, SRQ, etc.) that AA unsuccessfully tried to serve in recent years before the merger. At this rate, it won't be long before AA takes another crack at ORD-BTV?
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Re: AA to begin BTV-LGA

Fri Sep 30, 2016 1:56 pm

Flighty wrote:
Is BTV the CHS of the north? Seems kind of affluent and trendy.

I wouldn't necessarily label BTV as "affluent", but it is a neat little city with a fun vibe. Lots of students, and they need to travel. Nearby areas (like Stowe) definitely attract big money.

Does BTV market itself at all to Quebecers? I know PBG/Allegiant draw heavily from north of the border, but BTV is a little further away from Montreal.
 
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Re: AA to begin BTV-LGA

Fri Sep 30, 2016 3:30 pm

HVNandrew wrote:
Flighty wrote:
Is BTV the CHS of the north? Seems kind of affluent and trendy.

I wouldn't necessarily label BTV as "affluent", but it is a neat little city with a fun vibe. Lots of students, and they need to travel. Nearby areas (like Stowe) definitely attract big money.

Does BTV market itself at all to Quebecers? I know PBG/Allegiant draw heavily from north of the border, but BTV is a little further away from Montreal.


Yes - it does. I'm an FA with American Eagle (YX 175) and we always have plenty of residents from Quebec on our flights to CLT, DCA, and PHL. Even at the airport you will find signage in both English and French.
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Re: AA to begin BTV-LGA

Fri Sep 30, 2016 4:17 pm

I'm from YUL and flew BTV-LGA-Long Beach a few years ago. It really wasn't worth the effort/time for me in retrospect. There's 4 daily non-stop AC flights to LAX during the summer.
There were a notable number of Quebecers around the terminal in BTV but most were from areas closer to the U.S.border (Sherbrooke/Magog/St.Jean etc.) rather than Montreal.
BTV is not really attractive for Montreal residents unless they are from the area south of the St.Lawrence river (no traffic laden bridges to cross).
I suspect the tanking Cdn.$ is keeping cross-border flying down as well.
 
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Re: AA to begin BTV-LGA

Fri Sep 30, 2016 6:22 pm

BTV probably punches above the weight of the immediate Burlington area's population because it has such a large geographic catchment area. Much of the region is lightly populated, but its breadth makes up for it.
 
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Re: AA to begin BTV-LGA

Fri Sep 30, 2016 6:57 pm

BTV is not a realistic drive for a solo flyer from Montreal but a family headed to Florida in the mini van can save alot and be worth the trip. Also as other stated places like Sherbrooke and places as you travel East and South of Montreal make BTV more and more realistic. Montreal city center is not the prime target of BTV airport. BTV has good service levels but does suffer from high last minute fares. It covers a very large area of Vermont and New York plus parts of Quebec.
 
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Re: AA to begin BTV-LGA

Fri Sep 30, 2016 8:33 pm

Wouldn't be surprised to see them utilize the act as a LGA-BTV-Somewhere else Either CLT/ORD potentially? Trans-States does this with some of their UA flying mainly a IAD-MDT-ORD flight.
 
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Re: AA to begin BTV-LGA

Sat Oct 01, 2016 5:03 am

Well since AA absorbed TWA just before 9/11, I just have to say that in the mid 80's I was on a mosquito-sized plane from Boston to BTV and we landed into a full on snowstorm. That little plane was bouncing all over the place and ranks as the only time I thought my time was up!! Keep the BTV RJ's on the bigger size!!
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Re: AA to begin BTV-LGA

Sun Apr 16, 2017 3:53 pm

Anyone know if this is still a thing? Trying to make travel plans, but I see no option for this flight. Seasonal? Has it been cut already?
 
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Re: AA to begin BTV-LGA

Sun Apr 16, 2017 4:17 pm

klm672 wrote:
Anyone know if this is still a thing? Trying to make travel plans, but I see no option for this flight. Seasonal? Has it been cut already?

I believe it's still a year round.I was looking on Wikipedia and it said it was still going.
 
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Re: AA to begin BTV-LGA

Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:27 pm

I just checked some random days
Sun Apr 30
Thu May 25
Fri June 23
Mo Aug 21
Mo Nov 20
Mo Dec 18

Seems to be gone.
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