cyxuk
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EK211 diverted to YYZ

Fri Sep 09, 2016 7:03 pm

EK211 (77W) just landed in YYZ. Any idea on why the diversion? Not used to seeing a "non-380" EK airplane in YYZ.
 
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Re: EK211 diverted to YYZ

Fri Sep 09, 2016 7:46 pm

I'm going out on a limb here. Two things, weather at IAH looks pretty rough at the moment, and flight time to YYZ was 14:23. Normal flight DXB-IAH is just under 16 hours. I'm guessing YYZ was selected as a good place to refuel and prep for any holds getting into IAH if the crew can still be legal.
 
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Re: EK211 diverted to YYZ

Fri Sep 09, 2016 8:39 pm

As per flifo in Apollo.

*** EMIRATES AIRLINES ***
*** EMIRATES ***
FLIGHT NR DATE BOOKING CLASSES
EK 211 09SEP16 FR F J Y A C I O P E R W M B U
K H Q L T V X

ROUTING TML TIME DC EQU EQO COC CAC ETI OFD
1 DXB A *** **** 77W EK EK EK YES
D 3 0825 MEAL F-BL J-BL Y-BL
INFLIGHT SERVICE 2 4 5 7 9

2 IAH A E 1545
D *** ****
MOVEMENT INFORMATION

DIV- DIVERTED TO YYZ DUE OPS REASONS
DXB ATD 0903 YYZ ATA 1507
YYZ ETD 1600 IAH ETA 1804


SECURED FLIGHT INDICATOR ACTIVE
DXBIAH


MEAL INFORMATION

B BREAKFAST
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Re: EK211 diverted to YYZ

Fri Sep 09, 2016 10:05 pm

During the summer months, with temps above 38-39C, the -300ER becomes MTOW restricted out of DXB. Even on the longer 30L/12R. No problem getting in the air with two engines, but they of course have to assume a engine failure at V1. Leaving only 50% thrust remaining for a safe climb out. Hence the aircraft becomes climb limited at these temps.

Sectors regularly departing at or near MTOW, such as EK211 to IAH and 221 to DFW (there are more) fall into a special category.

Dispatch will proactively prepare two flight plans. One non-stop, and another one with a designated en-route refueling airport (ERA).

On EK211 the ERA is typically YYZ or MEM but it can be others, depending on the route flown that day.

Even when MTOW is not resitricted, en-route conditions encountered may be worse than planned for. So when a ERA is suddenty required, a regular station, witj support, fuel etc. such as YYZ makes a lot of sense!
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Re: EK211 diverted to YYZ

Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:44 am

It is its fuel stop.
 
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Re: EK211 diverted to YYZ

Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:07 am

So the 77W can't always make DXB - IAH/DFW on hot summer days ?? Time to bring back the A345 !
 
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Re: EK211 diverted to YYZ

Sat Sep 10, 2016 8:23 am

No need to bring back the A345 (my favorite starship, BTW).
They will soon upgrade the flight to a new shiny A380. With the HGW version in 3 class, I see no more schedule reliability problems.
Good for the passengers, more comfort in all classes and punctuality.
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Re: EK211 diverted to YYZ

Sat Sep 10, 2016 8:56 am

Aquila3 wrote:
No need to bring back the A345 (my favorite starship, BTW).
They will soon upgrade the flight to a new shiny A380. With the HGW version in 3 class, I see no more schedule reliability problems.
Good for the passengers, more comfort in all classes and punctuality.


There are two dozen 575t MTOW A380's in the EK fleet, which were already operating on EK211/2. The flight was downgauged to match current demand on 01JUL16, and there is nothing in the schedule regarding a upcoming upgauge.

1-2 fuel stops per month on the B77W (at a existing destination with existing support), is still a lot cheaper than operating A380's non-stop, when current demand does not warrant it. Having the flexibility to adjust capacity is one thing, actually doing so is another...
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