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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 145

Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:41 am

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I was driving past the QF hangar here in BNE today and noticed a HA A330 in there, does anyone happen to know why?


QF is carrying out heavy maintenance on behalf of HA:
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 145

Wed Oct 12, 2016 11:45 am

VA82 wrote:
I was driving past the QF hangar here in BNE today and noticed a HA A330 in there, does anyone happen to know why?


I think I read somewhere that QF are handling HA's new J fitout.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 145

Wed Oct 12, 2016 11:56 am

VA82 wrote:
I was driving past the QF hangar here in BNE today and noticed a HA A330 in there, does anyone happen to know why?


Scheduled maintenance. QF have plenty of spare time and space available at Hangar 3 now that the refurbs of their own A330's are now done. HA have contracted some of their A330 maintenance to QF, and is quite easy to rotate the aircraft through with their scheduled flights here. QF have that much spare time and capacity on their hands with Hangar 3 that it appears that they won't be having an apprenticeship intake there to start early next year - a few from my avionics class recently through Aviation Australia here in BNE were hoping to get there next year.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 145

Wed Oct 12, 2016 12:22 pm

VA82 wrote:
I was driving past the QF hangar here in BNE today and noticed a HA A330 in there, does anyone happen to know why?



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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 145

Wed Oct 12, 2016 12:50 pm

Bluebird191 wrote:
VA82 wrote:
I was driving past the QF hangar here in BNE today and noticed a HA A330 in there, does anyone happen to know why?


Scheduled maintenance. QF have plenty of spare time and space available at Hangar 3 now that the refurbs of their own A330's are now done. HA have contracted some of their A330 maintenance to QF, and is quite easy to rotate the aircraft through with their scheduled flights here. QF have that much spare time and capacity on their hands with Hangar 3 that it appears that they won't be having an apprenticeship intake there to start early next year - a few from my avionics class recently through Aviation Australia here in BNE were hoping to get there next year.


While they have rotated them in through the scheduled flights previously, the current aircraft was ferried in empty from HNL on Sunday afternoon as HA9981.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 145

Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:00 pm

TT set to announce a third A320 will be based in BNE from next March and 2 new routes

BNE to Whitsunday Coast, 4 weekly effective 23 March 2017
BNE-PER, looks to be daily though unclear, effective June 2017

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 145

Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:41 pm

Both HNA and Nanshan Group have nominated their representatives for the VA board

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 145

Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:12 pm

VA82 wrote:
I was driving past the QF hangar here in BNE today and noticed a HA A330 in there, does anyone happen to know why?


QF has a contract with HA for maintenance of HA's A330 fleet in BNE. There've been at least a couple of others through over the past year or two.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 145

Wed Oct 12, 2016 11:00 pm

Nice to see QF returning to PEK! Always good to see some expansion! NRT and PEK - where next? MEL-PVG?

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 145

Wed Oct 12, 2016 11:48 pm

smi0006 wrote:
Nice to see QF returning to PEK!


Daily service with a A330-200
SYD-PEK QF107 13:50/22:40,
PEK-SYD QF108 00:15/14:55 or 00:20/14:55

I guess they aren't looking for connections outwards from PEK, but their PVG/HKG services may be better for that anyway considering their partnerships with China Southern and China Eastern.

Guess the urgency went up when VA announced their plans. :)
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 145

Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:28 am

allrite wrote:
smi0006 wrote:
Nice to see QF returning to PEK!

SYD-PEK QF107 13:50/22:40,
PEK-SYD QF108 00:15/14:55 or 00:20/14:55

The SYD-PEK flight times aren't great for business traffic, but given scarcity of slots at PEK they're serviceable. I wonder if MU helped QF with the slot?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 145

Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:02 am

qfvhoqa wrote:
allrite wrote:
smi0006 wrote:
Nice to see QF returning to PEK!

SYD-PEK QF107 13:50/22:40,
PEK-SYD QF108 00:15/14:55 or 00:20/14:55

The SYD-PEK flight times aren't great for business traffic, but given scarcity of slots at PEK they're serviceable. I wonder if MU helped QF with the slot?


Quite likely, the Mu/QF alliance now serves 5 cities non-stop and clearly the reason QF launched SYD-PEK due to MU's inability to do so.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 145

Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:11 am

Given the scarcity of direct flights to PEK from any port in Australia, it should work.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 145

Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:39 am

smi0006 wrote:
Nice to see QF returning to PEK! Always good to see some expansion! NRT and PEK - where next? MEL-PVG?

http://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-to-resta ... ng-flights


I'm hoping for QF to give MEL-PVG another try too, with this announcement, I'm abit more optimistic! I'm sure MEL can handle 3 carriers (4 if you count FM!) on the MEL-PVG route.

Congratulations to QF, I think this will be a smart move, VA hasn't even gotten approval for its PEK services yet.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 145

Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:21 am

kriskim wrote:
smi0006 wrote:
Nice to see QF returning to PEK! Always good to see some expansion! NRT and PEK - where next? MEL-PVG?

http://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-to-resta ... ng-flights


I'm hoping for QF to give MEL-PVG another try too, with this announcement, I'm abit more optimistic! I'm sure MEL can handle 3 carriers (4 if you count FM!) on the MEL-PVG route.

Congratulations to QF, I think this will be a smart move, VA hasn't even gotten approval for its PEK services yet.


I think MEL-PVG would probably be QF's next route to China. I agree that its a smart move by QF and VA probably wont be happy with todays announcement

Over the past 12-18 months we have see QF add to Asia the following

2nd daily flight SYD-HKG
daily BNE-NRT
daily MEL-NRT due to start in Dec
an extra 3 weekly MEL-SIN
upgraded MEL-HKG to 744 3 days a week
an extra 3 weekly on PER-SIN
daily SYD-PEK as announced today
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 145

Thu Oct 13, 2016 5:51 am

...with old Skybed A332s on a 12 hour flight. That'll be fun.

QF really should listen to their a.net experts a bit more - I seem to remember this inevitable issue being discussed at length two years ago before the refurbishments even started. The worst thing is that there's no obvious solution in the pipeline unless they plan to make PEK a 789 (2+ years away) and HNL an A333 (which would require a cut elsewhere).

4-6 A332s with the new Y seats and necessary crew rest facilities would have offered up many opportunities.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 145

Thu Oct 13, 2016 7:03 am

QF had a contract with HA for 4 A332 to begin with for mx here in BNE. Not sure it will be extended after the stuff up on the first one back A few months.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 145

Thu Oct 13, 2016 7:14 am

Don't think I've seen it posted on here yet. Fly corporate are going to start BNE-TMW. Article says the council is talking to Jetgo about Melbourne flights.

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 145

Thu Oct 13, 2016 7:32 am

qf002 wrote:
...with old Skybed A332s on a 12 hour flight. That'll be fun.

QF really should listen to their a.net experts a bit more - I seem to remember this inevitable issue being discussed at length two years ago before the refurbishments even started. The worst thing is that there's no obvious solution in the pipeline unless they plan to make PEK a 789 (2+ years away) and HNL an A333 (which would require a cut elsewhere).

4-6 A332s with the new Y seats and necessary crew rest facilities would have offered up many opportunities.


I thought all the 330s were being refitted? Skybeds may not be the latest but they are hardly torture seats, and still better than what HA offers to HNL, until their fleet is fully refitted. Maybe a reshuffle off domestic would help too?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 145

Thu Oct 13, 2016 7:32 am

qf002 wrote:
...with old Skybed A332s on a 12 hour flight. That'll be fun.

QF really should listen to their a.net experts a bit more - I seem to remember this inevitable issue being discussed at length two years ago before the refurbishments even started. The worst thing is that there's no obvious solution in the pipeline unless they plan to make PEK a 789 (2+ years away) and HNL an A333 (which would require a cut elsewhere).

4-6 A332s with the new Y seats and necessary crew rest facilities would have offered up many opportunities.


I've never understood the reconfigure program and believe the question has been raised many times before. The program was to provide a consistent product offering and the ability to utilise A332's on domestic and international sectors if I'm not mistaken? Several A332D's are restricted to under 10 hour sectors as they haven't been fitted out for 3 Tech crew ops.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 145

Thu Oct 13, 2016 8:36 am

To add to the above QF are also adding:

*Daily BNE-POM-BNE starting Oct 2016

*Daily MEL-CHC-MEL starting Dec 2016

*BNE-CHC-BNE increasing to daily from Oct 2016

*Seasonal SYD-DPS-SYD will run all the way to March 2017

*SYD-AKL-SYD will see A330s replacing B73Hs during DEC-JAN holidays
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 145

Thu Oct 13, 2016 9:11 am

vhebb wrote:
To add to the above QF are also adding:

*Daily BNE-POM-BNE starting Oct 2016

*Daily MEL-CHC-MEL starting Dec 2016

*BNE-CHC-BNE increasing to daily from Oct 2016

*Seasonal SYD-DPS-SYD will run all the way to March 2017

*SYD-AKL-SYD will see A330s replacing B73Hs during DEC-JAN holidays


MEL-AKL-MEL will also see some A330's but not as many as SYD - only on peak days around Christmas and New Years
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 145

Thu Oct 13, 2016 9:18 am

Also don't forget:

*Daily MEL-NRT-MEL starting Dec 2016
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 145

Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:42 am

Thai A350 to MEL is looking EXTREMELY unlikely with TG enacting "plan B" which sees the aircraft deployed to the EU, example London and Paris. Few errors in the article regarding A350 ops in Australia though... this is confirming a rumour I heard a couple of days ago.


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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 145

Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:18 pm

"No airlines have operated this type of European-made aircraft over Australian airspace, and THAI would be the first international carrier to do so if permission were granted." - um, except QR to ADL for the last six months. CX has also already confirmed MEL services starting soon so clearly the issue is with TG and not CASA.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 145

Thu Oct 13, 2016 2:17 pm

qf002 wrote:
"No airlines have operated this type of European-made aircraft over Australian airspace, and THAI would be the first international carrier to do so if permission were granted." - um, except QR to ADL for the last six months. CX has also already confirmed MEL services starting soon so clearly the issue is with TG and not CASA.


SQ also operate the A350 to MEL.

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 145

Thu Oct 13, 2016 4:44 pm

Yes there are errors in the article however, TG have not been informed of a decision by CASA despite nearly 120 days passing since the application. There's been no reason supplied for the delay either.

Before you speculate the Incident at HKT had zero to do with it.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 145

Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:03 am

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Yes there are errors in the article however, TG have not been informed of a decision by CASA despite nearly 120 days passing since the application. There's been no reason supplied for the delay either.

Before you speculate the Incident at HKT had zero to do with it.


I was surprised when MEL was announced as the first TG A350 Intl destination anyway. I was expecting AKL or a European city to get it first. I doubt TG would be too worried about this minor setback anyway. It's not like they can't use them on other routes and they don't have a large A350 order anyway. They just received delivery of #2 a few days ago and #1 is still out of action.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 145

Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:18 am

qfvhoqa wrote:
allrite wrote:
smi0006 wrote:
Nice to see QF returning to PEK!

SYD-PEK QF107 13:50/22:40,
PEK-SYD QF108 00:15/14:55 or 00:20/14:55

The SYD-PEK flight times aren't great for business traffic, but given scarcity of slots at PEK they're serviceable. I wonder if MU helped QF with the slot?


QF was given a 4am slot. China Eastern agreed to a slot swap taking on the 4am spot and giving QF one of its existing slots .
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 145

Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:35 am

Are China Eastern pulling off the SYD-PEK since QF is going in daily?

I notice MUs 3x weekly flights have vanished?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 145

Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:45 am

777Jet wrote:
I was surprised when MEL was announced as the first TG A350 Intl destination anyway. I was expecting AKL or a European city to get it first. I doubt TG would be too worried about this minor setback anyway. It's not like they can't use them on other routes and they don't have a large A350 order anyway. They just received delivery of #2 a few days ago and #1 is still out of action.


Because MEL has been receiving a mixed bag of 777's (772, 77E, 773, 77W) and more recently 744's, TG wanted to offer consistency on the MEL route by making MEL x2 daily A350 with the latest product. They needed to become more competitive, especially Intra-Asia and Europe, offering a angle flat on a 9hr sector is not going to cut it, especially since SQ, EK, EY are flying their best product to MEL. If MEL wasn't as high yielding, TG would have just dumped 787's like they did with BNE and PER which is in a 2-2-2 configuration in J and a much squishier Y cabin. Plans were to also convert SYD to all A350 flying after MEL in 2017. I'm sure AKL is on the cards sometime after, but not a priority at the moment.

SE Asia is also heating up as VN starts sending its 787's to both MEL and SYD, with lie flat seats. TG needs to up its game big time if it wants to stay relevant in MEL and SYD, O&D demand is not as big and they heavily rely on transfer traffic. I'm quite surprised that the number of Thai leisure travellers to Australia is very small, the market is largely outbound from Australia.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 145

Fri Oct 14, 2016 3:15 am

TT to add 4th 737 to fleet in December

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread Part 145

Fri Oct 14, 2016 3:43 am

NZ has now offloaded it's remaining stake in VA
"Air New Zealand has sold its remaining stake in Virgin Australia for AUD65.7 million. It says the sale was made in off market transactions with investors, such as the Nanshan Group"
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