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Air Canada new livery?

Sat Sep 17, 2016 7:30 pm

I have heard the AC is planning on changing their livery from their current greenish color to a combination silver, red and white design. Any news on this?...
 
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Sat Sep 17, 2016 8:31 pm

Where did you hear that from?
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Sat Sep 17, 2016 8:58 pm

Lots of people like to talk about a supposed new AC livery, I have yet to hear anything credible, so I'll believe it when I see it.
 
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Sat Sep 17, 2016 8:59 pm

I've heard that they will be getting a new livery starting with their 737 MAX deliveries, but I haven't seen any renderings.
 
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Sat Sep 17, 2016 9:31 pm

Since when is the AC livery greenish more than silver?
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Sat Sep 17, 2016 9:38 pm

I would hope not... I like the current livery and its defo in my top 5 liveries out there...
 
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Sat Sep 17, 2016 9:56 pm

OA940 wrote:
Since when is the AC livery greenish more than silver?

I would have said blue, not green or silver.
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Sat Sep 17, 2016 10:13 pm

Apparently, there is already a new livery to be announced in time for AC's 80th anniversary. This is according to a member who posted on a similar thread 3 months ago.
 
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Sat Sep 17, 2016 10:18 pm

I heard they're ditching the maple leaf #flamebait
 
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Sat Sep 17, 2016 10:30 pm

The Air Canada Rouge scheme would make a great mainline scheme too
 
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Sat Sep 17, 2016 11:01 pm

fcogafa wrote:
The Air Canada Rouge scheme would make a great mainline scheme too

Agree 100%.

Sad that the leisure outfit looks so much better than the current crap that AC parent is wearing. Especially after sporting that great black livery. :(
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Sat Sep 17, 2016 11:12 pm

Acey wrote:
OA940 wrote:
Since when is the AC livery greenish more than silver?

I would have said blue, not green or silver.


How about blue-green? This should make everyone happy. :roll:
 
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Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:07 am

I heard it will have brown in it.
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Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:45 am

The best Air Canda livery is the previous Dark Green tail, and red Maple Leaf. Amazing; I had no idea why they changed the color to Sensodyne green.
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:07 am

Actually, Air Canada's current colour palette is called "silver sky". Depending on the environment, or your eye, it may appear bluish or greenish or silver. Nonetheless, it is called "silver sky".
 
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Sun Sep 18, 2016 7:13 am

Probably my favorite livery of the bigger North American carriers, so hopefully any changes are far off yet.
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Sun Sep 18, 2016 12:57 pm

I hope not. The current one is good and stands out amongst all the typical white birds with only colourful tails. The frigid blue and red maple leaf stands out. Air Canada has had some good and bad designs over the years. The red tail, strip and black nose was good. The black tail and red maple leaf was bad.
 
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Sun Sep 18, 2016 1:13 pm

You'll notice that the blue has completely disappeared from the interior of the newly delivered aircraft (bulkheads and Y seats on the 787 used to have a touch of blue but now that's all gone). AC is getting new uniforms in 2017 I believe, which should coincide with a new livery. Employees have been getting new lanyards that are silver and red as opposed to the previous colours featured on their airplanes.
 
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Sun Sep 18, 2016 1:25 pm

Beatyair wrote:
I hope not. The current one is good and stands out amongst all the typical white birds with only colourful tails. The frigid blue and red maple leaf stands out. Air Canada has had some good and bad designs over the years. The red tail, strip and black nose was good. The black tail and red maple leaf was bad.


I also like the current one. Sure it looks like fluoride anti-cavity, but it is unique world wide and the tail is inspired. Is this livery especially expensive to apply? The reason I ask is that back when Delta went through its livery of the month period, the 'Deltaflot/Beach Towel' design was said to be more expensive and this was one factor in moving to the blocky and IMHO less interesting current 'Citgo' scheme.

I beg to differ on the 1994 green-black tail and leaf. The leaf itself was warm and inviting, and the green very solid but soothing. Yes the fuselage was boring but what can you do when Eurowhite was taking over.

The 60s red stripe/black nose and lettering is a classic and won hands down over the two following ones. The 1978 red white was dull as dishwater and actually looked like it was designed by bureaucrats in Ottawa - and probably was. Fast forward to '88 and adding the burgundy was not much better. IMHO the current AC Rouge was better by a mile than either of those - it's actually pretty nice.
 
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Sun Sep 18, 2016 1:35 pm

I really like the current livery. It really stands out and is quite distinctive. Especially at airports where there is only one or two AC aircraft at a time, it really stands out and is very unique. You can spot the AC plane from a mile away. I think the beauty of it gets lost in YYZ, etc where there are tons of AC aircraft at once and it doesn't stand out as much. Given their changing color palate on the interior, and new uniforms coming out, it wouldn't surprise me if they come out with a new livery. But I hope it is equally distinctive and not boring Eurowhite
 
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Sun Sep 18, 2016 1:36 pm

CF-CPI wrote:
I also like the current one. Sure it looks like fluoride anti-cavity, but it is unique world wide and the tail is inspired. Is this livery especially expensive to apply? The reason I ask is that back when Delta went through its livery of the month period, the 'Deltaflot/Beach Towel' design was said to be more expensive and this was one factor in moving to the blocky and IMHO less interesting current 'Citgo' scheme.


The DL Wavy Gravy/Inverted Russian Flag scheme was dropped partly because it required eight paint colors — two shades of red, four shades of blue, white, and a clear coat. The current one only needs four — two shades of red, navy, and white.

The AC scheme, meanwhile, isn't as complex as it looks. It uses a halftone pattern on the tail, which doesn't require much to make something look like it has a lot of depth. Looking at the AC tail, I think there's six shades used on their planes — the light aqua on the whole fuselage, bright red, dark red, pure white, bright aqua, and a teal shade. It still requires a few coats of paint, but not as many as some other liveries.

I'm not a huge fan of the light aqua fuselage, but I otherwise think AC has a really great livery, especially from afar. I think the Rouge one is awful and kitschy. It's mostly the "Rouge" type that ruins it, but the red and enlarged maple leaf is too much.

Count me in as another one who's a fan of the 90s AC livery, though I have a feeling AC won't be going in that direction anytime soon.
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Sun Sep 18, 2016 1:42 pm

Bring back the red cheatlines from the 80s!
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Sun Sep 18, 2016 2:33 pm

I found these today.

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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Sun Sep 18, 2016 2:39 pm

winterlight wrote:
I found these today.

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Not a fan of it, it seems too bland and forgettable. Looks like I'm gonna miss the current livery a lot.
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Sun Sep 18, 2016 2:43 pm

winterlight wrote:
I found these today.

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note IMO: this might be an idea for a "one off" special scheme for the 80th anniversary of AC - not to be displayed on all aircrafts

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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Sun Sep 18, 2016 2:47 pm

winterlight wrote:
I found these today.

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I hope not. It looks so cheap.

I don't see why anyone likes the evergreen livery. It was by far Air Canada's worst. It represented a time when they were going bankrupt not to mention it lacked any element that would make it aesthetically pleasing. It looked so typically plain and from the 90s.
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:38 pm

Yep this is what someone showed me and said that it will come out roughly in 2018
 
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Sun Sep 18, 2016 7:07 pm

There's a photo on here of an AC 762 in an experimental livery as they were bringing in the new one. It was a chrome fuselage with the current tail and AC titles. It looks pretty good. But with new aircraft coming, they have to paint them.
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Sun Sep 18, 2016 7:27 pm

That first rendering reminds me of the recent China Eastern "livery" redesign. Utterly awful.
I can only hope that the renderings are not, in fact, representative of what the end product will be.

Having said that, it seems that a lot of airlines are now more focused on how their brand comes across within the cabin (seat color, accents, pillow design, staff uniforms, catering packaging etc.) and electronically (mobile apps, websites etc.) at the expense of the aircraft livery. Some minimalist schemes are well thought out, and work very well (Delta, Swiss, Lufthansa), but increasingly the schemes were are seeing aren't so much minimalist as just plain lazy. The Swiss scheme fits in with how Switzerland is perceived abroad, the Lufthansa and Delta schemes possess colored tails and aircraft bellies. The schemes presented above are simply white aircraft with "Air Canada" slapped on them. That suggests that very little thought was given - the livery is not so much considered a chance to convey the brand in a bold way as it is simply an afterthought.

A good livery can make a lasting impression on a traveler. When I was very young, my first flight was on Air France. The plane at the next gate belonged to KLM. It was, to a young child, blue and pretty, and I knew that that was the airplane I wanted to fly on. Years later, when in a position to book travel for myself, I went straight to KLM. But similar results can be attained from adults - if a KLM plane is present at an international airport, it sure stands out from the sea of white aircraft. So people think to themselves "I wonder who operates that plane", and maybe they go home and look it up. A good livery turns heads and projects the brand to hundreds of people, even if they're not traveling with that particular airline. The liveries proposed in that rendering wouldn't attract a second glance. In fact you probably wouldn't even be able to see the plane on a snowy day in Canada.

Just my opinion, and again, I very much hope that the renderings presented above are not representative of the final design.
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Sun Sep 18, 2016 7:58 pm

I've always thought of the current livery as 'ice blue' or 'glacier blue' and think it's quite unique and attractive.

If they're going to change it I hope it's something as distinctive.
 
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Sun Sep 18, 2016 9:00 pm

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I don't see why anyone likes the evergreen livery. It was by far Air Canada's worst. It represented a time when they were going bankrupt not to mention it lacked any element that would make it aesthetically pleasing. It looked so typically plain and from the 90s.


But everyone is moving in that 90s livery direction i.e Eurowhite, that was the best livery AC had and it was so refreshing after the outdated 80s and prior lliveries, they should have kept it, digital cameras also started catching the green instead of making it look black.
 
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Sun Sep 18, 2016 9:21 pm

I'm not really sure what I think of the current AC scheme, its definitely much better than what a lot of airlines have come up with but I also wouldn't mind if they ditched the teal completely. I don't mind those renderings as long as they tweak them a bit more. I would agree that if a new livery is coming that the introduction of the 737MAX fleet would be the realistic time to switchover and launch the new branding.
 
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Sun Sep 18, 2016 9:53 pm

CanadaFair wrote:
But everyone is moving in that 90s livery direction i.e Eurowhite, that was the best livery AC had and it was so refreshing after the outdated 80s and prior lliveries, they should have kept it, digital cameras also started catching the green instead of making it look black.


Why back to Eurowhite? If it saves so much money why would any airline not use it?

The evergreen livery looked like a livery of an airline that was going bankrupt. Very, very cheap looking and imo easily AC's worst livery. Dark, almost black green? So 90s. everybody had at on their Ford Taurus. Plain? So 90 as well. I was so excited when they unvieled the current one and decided that the evergreen was going. And those concepts, I hope they are nothing but home made images. Every one of them lacks imagination and would do a poor job of representing the country when they fly international.
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Sun Sep 18, 2016 10:23 pm

Incase you didnt notice a good majority of the worlds airlines are going Eurowhite, LATAM being the latest though TAM already was a bolder Eurowhite scheme, it has nothing to do with 90s its a trend thats growing stronger, the AC scheme was timeless, even Garuda Indonesia livery didnt need changing, Philippine Airlines still going strong 30 years later.

Not saying AC should bring it back or go that route again just that it could have stayed on, there was no need for change.
 
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Sun Sep 18, 2016 10:58 pm

LAX772LR wrote:
fcogafa wrote:
The Air Canada Rouge scheme would make a great mainline scheme too


Agree 100%.

Sad that the leisure outfit looks so much better than the current crap that AC parent is wearing. Especially after sporting that great black livery. :(


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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Sun Sep 18, 2016 11:05 pm

winterlight wrote:
I found these today.



I'm not one to be vocal about liveries but this is such a huge step back, I love the current AC livery.
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Sun Sep 18, 2016 11:37 pm

CanadaFair wrote:
Incase you didnt notice a good majority of the worlds airlines are going Eurowhite, LATAM being the latest though TAM already was a bolder Eurowhite scheme, it has nothing to do with 90s its a trend thats growing stronger, the AC scheme was timeless, even Garuda Indonesia livery didnt need changing, Philippine Airlines still going strong 30 years later.

Not saying AC should bring it back or go that route again just that it could have stayed on, there was no need for change.

There was a need to change. The brand that evergreen represented was not a good brand. It was the brand of a bankrupt airline.

The world's biggest/most well known airlines for the most part do not use eurowhite. The main ones like American, British, Cathay, Delta, Ethiad, Lufthansa, KLM, Qatar, United, etc are all non-eurowhite. There is no reason why Air Canada shouldn't steer clear of eurowhite and there is no reason to get rid of their current livery.
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Sun Sep 18, 2016 11:53 pm

Only people with warped thinking might see things that way, I dont mean you but AC management.

Cathay is practically a Eurowhite now, so is American they just use grey instead, United is a version of Eurowhite as is Luftnansa.

Air Canada can definitely go bolder if it fits in with their economics,, and we would love to see more colour as well, but most airlines moving to Eurowhite are also saving pennies somewhere along the line, in anycase that green tail livery wasnt bad at all and could have been around for another 20 years, it was by far one of the best tails out there in the Eurowhite tail design league.
 
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:16 am

Nine out of ten dentists agree, eurowhite causes cavities. I have to say I didn't care for the toothpaste livery when it first came out but it's grown on me. The subtle metallic finish looks great up close while boarding, and is very distinctive when viewed from a distance at an airport or when in flight. To me the colour (yes colour) says Canada, it evokes the sky, the arctic ice, snow, and has a bit of the northern paintings of Lawren Harris. I hope they keep the colour going for a while longer, perhaps with a bit of a refresh. The only thing moderately interesting in those three renderings above is the sort of Etihad thing going on with the tail area of the third one down.
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Mon Sep 19, 2016 1:27 pm

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winterlight wrote:
I found these today.

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note IMO: this might be an idea for a "one off" special scheme for the 80th anniversary of AC - not to be displayed on all aircrafts

accargofra


Sorry but that design definitely needs more color!!!

Something like...

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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Mon Sep 19, 2016 3:37 pm

I had a go at modifying one of them. Looks like a cross between Northwest & Turkish !

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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:00 pm

QB737 wrote:
Where did you hear that from?


whywhyzee wrote:
Lots of people like to talk about a supposed new AC livery, I have yet to hear anything credible, so I'll believe it when I see it.



Check reply #6 from this thread: https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=705409
 
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:12 pm

whywhyzee wrote:
Lots of people like to talk about a supposed new AC livery, I have yet to hear anything credible, so I'll believe it when I see it.



Plus as we've seen with the new WN, AS, and even AA liveries, those nondisclosure agreements work
wonders in keeping everyone in the know silent.

So anyone saying they know if / what new livery AC will introduce , don't :)
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:35 pm

Given that the new AC livery in 2017 rumours appear to be true, I would love to see the full roundel return to AC's tails...and not just the oversized 1/2 roundel that's on the Rouge birds.
 
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:45 pm

Flew on AC recently,
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I guess they are refreshing up their entire products
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:04 pm

767333ER wrote:
The world's biggest/most well known airlines for the most part do not use eurowhite. The main ones like American, British, Cathay, Delta, Ethiad, Lufthansa, KLM, Qatar, United, etc are all non-eurowhite. There is no reason why Air Canada shouldn't steer clear of eurowhite and there is no reason to get rid of their current livery.

??? LH's livery is the mother of all eurowhite-liveries, IMO.
 
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:52 pm

I found this website that posts a proposal. I really like the proposed livery, even if eurowhite, it looks really classy.

http://flaviomcarvalho.com/projects/air-canada-livery
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Mon Sep 19, 2016 8:37 pm

If you check out the beta for aircanada.ca, I think you'll get a sense as to the new colours that they are going to use....
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Mon Sep 19, 2016 8:39 pm

KLAM wrote:
I found this website that posts a proposal. I really like the proposed livery, even if eurowhite, it looks really classy.

http://flaviomcarvalho.com/projects/air-canada-livery


Nope, sir.... I don't like it. The tail is too abstract and hard to tell what it is. I do like the style of the rest of the branding, though.
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Re: Air Canada new livery?

Mon Sep 19, 2016 9:32 pm

KLAM wrote:
I found this website that posts a proposal. I really like the proposed livery, even if eurowhite, it looks really classy.

http://flaviomcarvalho.com/projects/air-canada-livery


Very nice! Clean and smart.

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