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Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:35 pm

Hello everyone,

The 737-8 MAX is visiting DAL the next couple of days and I was lucky enough to grab some photos close up with her. Thought you might enjoy! She really is a beauty...the new engine, sleek winglets, and raised nose do a lot to make this 737 a lot more of a looker than her predecessor.

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Sat Sep 24, 2016 11:50 am

Awesome pix, thanks for sharing!
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Sat Sep 24, 2016 11:53 am

Great pics! Looks a bit nicer, but the winglets spoil it, they are too much :/
 
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Sat Sep 24, 2016 12:05 pm

Outstanding photos, that jet is the wave of the future. Between AA and WN there will be a massive number of those bird around Dallas.
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Sat Sep 24, 2016 12:08 pm

The winglets and the flap tracks just make it look a bit funky - but the rest - it looks good.
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Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:00 pm

Although it is still a 737, it certainly looks the best out of all of them.
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Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:28 pm

Great pictures! Thanks for share them with us! The 737 Max looks fine, but I still got to habituate my sight to the scimitar winglets. I know that their main reason are for efficiency, but to my eyes... they're still looking a little odd.
 
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Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:31 pm

I'm not sure, I think the 738 with split scimitars is the best, the winglets on the MAX aren't as elegant and the nose up looks a little weird to me compared to the meaner nose-down of the NG.

Why was it in DAL, just for testing or was it visiting someone (WN?)
 
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Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:43 pm

Wow! Thank you very much for posting these.
 
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Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:27 pm

I think it looks great, though is it just me or are the engines bigger then on the NG. I know they are the new leap engines but are they larger then the ones on the NG's?
 
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Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:30 pm

MrHMSH wrote:
I'm not sure, I think the 738 with split scimitars is the best, the winglets on the MAX aren't as elegant and the nose up looks a little weird to me compared to the meaner nose-down of the NG.

Why was it in DAL, just for testing or was it visiting someone (WN?)


If it is in DAL they may be showing off the plane to Southwest staff there and letting the airline tour the airplane to better prepare for the entry into service.
 
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Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:31 pm

MrHMSH wrote:
I'm not sure, I think the 738 with split scimitars is the best, the winglets on the MAX aren't as elegant and the nose up looks a little weird to me compared to the meaner nose-down of the NG.

Why was it in DAL, just for testing or was it visiting someone (WN?)


It looks way better in person then even pictures show - I was skeptical of the new winglets until I saw them on Thursday close up.

I think the best way to answer your question is testing, with both Boeing and WN involved :)

Thanks for all the comments! I may have more I can go through if anyone has a request.
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Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:36 pm

737max8 wrote:
MrHMSH wrote:
I'm not sure, I think the 738 with split scimitars is the best, the winglets on the MAX aren't as elegant and the nose up looks a little weird to me compared to the meaner nose-down of the NG.

Why was it in DAL, just for testing or was it visiting someone (WN?)


It looks way better in person then even pictures show - I was skeptical of the new winglets until I saw them on Thursday close up.

I think the best way to answer your question is testing, with both Boeing and WN involved :)

Thanks for all the comments! I may have more I can go through if anyone has a request.


You have more? I don't think I'll be alone in saying we'd love to see them! These are very good and interesting photos. I look forward to seeing real MAXs flying soon!
 
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Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:42 pm

Pimp My Ride: the Boeing special. :lol:
 
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MrHMSH wrote:
Why was it in DAL, just for testing or was it visiting someone (WN?)


I happened to come across the answer while looking for something else:

Starting September 22, the 737 MAX enters a portion of flight testing that will really put the airplane through its paces.

It’s called SROV - which stands for Service Ready Operational Validation. With the help of launch customer Southwest Airlines, we’ll take the MAX to several of the airports in Southwest’s system to simulate the kind of real life things the airplane will encounter on any given day of revenue service.

Using MAX test airplane #4 over a six day period, pilots from Southwest and Boeing will fly routes from Love Field in Dallas to cities including Albuquerque, Denver, Chicago, Austin and Phoenix. Southwest’s maintenance and ground crews at each airport will get hands-on experience, doing everything from towing and fueling the airplane, to conducting fit checks of ground support equipment and performing maintenance.


Ref: http://www.boeingblogs.com/randy/
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Sat Sep 24, 2016 9:35 pm

Mmmhmm those beautiful fan-blades.. Thanks for the pictures!
 
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Sat Sep 24, 2016 9:41 pm

While there is a long way to go until the 737-8 is in service, it seems the test program is methodically moving from one test to the next quietly and without issues.
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Sat Sep 24, 2016 9:52 pm

I'd sure love to see WN keep one of those test Max's in a Boeing hybrid livery.

Keep that awesome Boeing livery with Southwest's new tail they use on the state
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Sat Sep 24, 2016 10:04 pm

737max8 wrote:
MrHMSH wrote:
I'm not sure, I think the 738 with split scimitars is the best, the winglets on the MAX aren't as elegant and the nose up looks a little weird to me compared to the meaner nose-down of the NG.

Why was it in DAL, just for testing or was it visiting someone (WN?)


It looks way better in person then even pictures show - I was skeptical of the new winglets until I saw them on Thursday close up.

I think the best way to answer your question is testing, with both Boeing and WN involved :)

Thanks for all the comments! I may have more I can go through if anyone has a request.


Wonderful series of photos. Thanks.

Two questions:

The last photo shows "luggage" in the foreground. Doesn't look like mixed passenger baggage. Is that some kind of specialize test equipment or possibly parts inventory?

Also, the "hubcap" of the engine fan appears to be splattered by something. Is that evidence of bugs being hit/ingested?
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Sat Sep 24, 2016 10:27 pm

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Bonus here with the first 737 MAX N8701Q landing at KBOI, well shot video here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AUY7itY7Ik


Very nice! That takeoff definitely was of the 'homesick angel' variety! :-)
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Sat Sep 24, 2016 10:32 pm

On a related note -

Southwest Expects to Take its First Boeing 737 Max Ahead of Schedule

Southwest Airlines Co. expects to take delivery of 10 of the latest version of Boeing Co.’s 737 before it begins flying the aircraft commercially next year, a consequence of the plane’s smoother-than-expected development.

https://skift.com/2016/09/24/southwest- ... -schedule/
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Sat Sep 24, 2016 10:32 pm

Thanks so much for taking the time to share with all of us, very nice photos & some great perspectives.
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737max8 wrote:
Thanks for all the comments! I may have more I can go through if anyone has a request.


Just noticed your a.net handle, totally appropriate! :-)

If you happen to have another chance to be near the bird, the two shots I'd really like to see are:

1) Head-on, getting nose and both engines into the frame

2) Side view of the engine, including entire pylon, I find it interesting how far forward they had to mount the engine.

Or maybe you already have them but didn't upload them.

This is what we refer to on a.net as "engine porn"! :-)
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Sat Sep 24, 2016 11:56 pm

Beautiful photos! The 737 MAX 8 is a perfect looking plane! Very sporty and athletic! The AT Winglets fit with the 737 quite well, and the taller gear give it a very nice presence. Along with the CFM LEAP 1Bs, the proportions are second to none!
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Sat Sep 24, 2016 11:56 pm

To a novice here, those engines look awfully close to the ground. Does anyone know the clearance? Is it the same as the 737NGs?
 
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Sun Sep 25, 2016 12:23 am

I was able to see her taxiing on her return to DAL on Friday night around 21:30. I was on a WN flight to SAT returning from training and she was right in front of us so when she turned for the hangar, I was able to get a nice close-up look at her in the darkness. What a treat that was!

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Sun Sep 25, 2016 12:32 am

Nice, looks way better than the current gen, even with the scimitars. Looks more snooty and aloof with the raised gear than grumpy or sulky as well.

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1) How different are the scimitars on the max?
2) How did they get away with removing the serrated nacelles on the 777X but not on the MAX?
3) Are they thinning the walls as well similar to the 777x for a better paxex?

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Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:44 am

What a great shot, mate! Lucky you!

Can't wait to see MAXs on JT and GA livery soon.

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Boeing778X wrote:
Beautiful photos! The 737 MAX 8 is a perfect looking plane! Very sporty and athletic! The AT Winglets fit with the 737 quite well, and the taller gear give it a very nice presence. Along with the CFM LEAP 1As, the proportions are second to none!


Small correction, LEAP-1Bs. :)
 
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Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:07 am

Will the seats/floor sit "lower" than the 737NG for a better experience looking out the window?

I love the 737, but I become the hunchback of Notre Dame trying to look out the window.
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Sun Sep 25, 2016 5:59 am

Random question - has anyone been able to find a pic/video of the new APU inlet?

I've scoured through dozens of each and have yet to actually see it. I believe it sits flush and raises up - ala 767.
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Will the seats/floor sit "lower" than the 737NG for a better experience looking out the window?

I love the 737, but I become the hunchback of Notre Dame trying to look out the window.


I doubt it. The 737 MAX will come with all the shortcomings/quirks of the previous 737 models. The consequence of Boeing using the same 1960s vintage design. It was designed to have JT8Ds slung under the wings, not massive Leap 1Bs. Same neck-cramping low windows, same narrow fuselage/seats, same difficult door systems for FAs, no containerized cargo.

At least with the new engines, the cabin noise should be slightly less.

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737max8 wrote:
Thanks for all the comments! I may have more I can go through if anyone has a request.


Just noticed your a.net handle, totally appropriate! :-)

If you happen to have another chance to be near the bird, the two shots I'd really like to see are:

1) Head-on, getting nose and both engines into the frame

2) Side view of the engine, including entire pylon, I find it interesting how far forward they had to mount the engine.

Or maybe you already have them but didn't upload them.

This is what we refer to on a.net as "engine porn"! :-)


How are these? Some are with my phone so not the best quality!

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And how it looks as a passenger! The new vs the "new new"

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BobPatterson wrote:
737max8 wrote:
MrHMSH wrote:
I'm not sure, I think the 738 with split scimitars is the best, the winglets on the MAX aren't as elegant and the nose up looks a little weird to me compared to the meaner nose-down of the NG.

Why was it in DAL, just for testing or was it visiting someone (WN?)


It looks way better in person then even pictures show - I was skeptical of the new winglets until I saw them on Thursday close up.

I think the best way to answer your question is testing, with both Boeing and WN involved :)

Thanks for all the comments! I may have more I can go through if anyone has a request.


Wonderful series of photos. Thanks.

Two questions:

The last photo shows "luggage" in the foreground. Doesn't look like mixed passenger baggage. Is that some kind of specialize test equipment or possibly parts inventory?

Also, the "hubcap" of the engine fan appears to be splattered by something. Is that evidence of bugs being hit/ingested?


I believe it to be testing equipment. Personal bags came off earlier, while these stayed around the hangar that is being used for SROV. Honestly not sure if Boeing does carry any spare parts with the A/C during these tests, that is something I would like to ask.

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To a novice here, those engines look awfully close to the ground. Does anyone know the clearance? Is it the same as the 737NGs?


Standing next to both, the ground clearance seems identical. The nose gear was raised and the engine is mounted higher/further from the wing to allow for the same clearance with the bigger fan.

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Nice, looks way better than the current gen, even with the scimitars. Looks more snooty and aloof with the raised gear than grumpy or sulky as well.

Questions
1) How different are the scimitars on the max?
2) How did they get away with removing the serrated nacelles on the 777X but not on the MAX?
3) Are they thinning the walls as well similar to the 777x for a better paxex?

Thanks!
rP


As far as the Advanced Technology winglets, they are actually very different. For one, these (ATW) are MUCH larger than the scimitars. The scimitar pieces are more vertical, with the lower piece being very small. The ATW are at less of an angle from the wing and the bottom piece is quite large. I can touch it standing up, where I could not on the scimitar. For me the ATW looks more graceful while the scimitars look more sporty.
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Sun Sep 25, 2016 9:06 am

Its a good looking bird, but that engine cowling just looks far too square and bulky. I'm sure it works nicely and does the job, but ick.
 
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Will the WN MAX have USB outlets on them?
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Sun Sep 25, 2016 10:58 pm

Like most things, those winglets looked better in renderings than irl. They look quite clunky, almost ugly in fact.
 
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QANTAS747-438 wrote:
Will the WN MAX have USB outlets on them?

Oh, I how I hope. But based on the cabin pictures I've seen so far, it doesn't look like they do.
 
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ikolkyo wrote:
Here are few other videos.



Bonus here with the first 737 MAX N8701Q landing at KBOI, well shot video here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AUY7itY7Ik


It appears that the plane is trailing a small black "something" attached via cord/rope/string at the top of the vert stabilizer. What is that?
 
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airliner371 wrote:
QANTAS747-438 wrote:
Will the WN MAX have USB outlets on them?

Oh, I how I hope. But based on the cabin pictures I've seen so far, it doesn't look like they do.


There are no outlets on the plane as of now. I believe WN decided against the added weight and maintenance. Keep things low cost. As much as people try to deny it online, WN does still operate as many things low cost as possible and does have remarkable low fares in a lot of markets.

Just buy a portable battery. I have multiple and they are super useful everywhere, not just on an airplane. One of the best investments in my life.
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737max8 wrote:
How are these? Some are with my phone so not the best quality!


Fabulous! That pylon is an engineering masterpiece. It has to be so long to project the engine forward enough to give it the ground clearance it needs, and has to be super strong to support not just the weight of the engine itself but also every bit of thrust the engines generate, and at the same time it needs to have passages to allow fuel, electricity and very hot, very high pressure air to travel between the engine and the fuse, and oh, by the way, it has to be very aerodynamic because of the complicated air flow between the engine nacelle and the wing. I can only imagine the amount of man-hours that went into its design, construction and test.

It's funny to me at least how some like bgm look at the 737 MAX-8 and see a pig, whereas others like me look at it and see a masterpiece. I guess I prefer a high quality, efficient, tried and true product that sells in great numbers and makes the manufacturer and customers lots of money that is being refreshed, as opposed to, let's say, an all-new giant VLA that has burned a $28B hole in the ground that will never be filled.

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And how it looks as a passenger! The new vs the "new new"


Yep, I still think of the NG as those "new" 737s! :-) Being a WN customer for a long time gives you that perspective!
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