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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:18 am

Coming planned reg for SAS' A320neos

7489 - SE-DOX
7499 - SE-DOY
7565 - SE-DOZ
7602 - SE-ROA

Then SE-ROB to SE-ROZ will follow
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:17 pm

A SAS aircraft was struck by lightning during landing at Kastrup.

It's initial plan was KEF-CPH but it had to divert to Sturup due to storm URD.
After the llightning strike it diverted again and this time to Bornholm island.

http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/EeV ... 432d5d35c3
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Mon Dec 26, 2016 8:02 pm

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Thunderboltdrgn wrote:
A SAS aircraft was struck by lightning during landing at Kastrup.

It's initial plan was KEF-CPH but it had to divert to Sturup due to storm URD.
After the llightning strike it diverted again and this time to Bornholm island.

http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/EeV ... 432d5d35c3


I read in an article that it's SAS procedure to divert to the nearest suitable airfield in case of a lightning strike. Would make sense, but even if it was physically closer to Roenne at the time of the lightning strike, wouldn't it make more sense to continue to CPH/MMX? What about the additional time required to set up the aircraft for the approach into EKRN and the additional time it takes to communicate all this to ATC? Now the passengers are stuck on Bornholm instead of being able to at least get from MMX to CPH by bus/train in 1-2 hours.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Mon Dec 26, 2016 8:16 pm

According to the article, CPH was closed (original reasons to the diversion) and possibly the pilots/atc decided that MMX was unsuitable as well.
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Mon Dec 26, 2016 8:35 pm

Thunderboltdrgn wrote:
According to the article, CPH was closed (original reasons to the diversion) and possibly the pilots/atc decided that MMX was unsuitable as well.


Sounds a bit weird that CPH was closed. I've been looking at CPH several times on Flightradar and they simply just started using the crossing runway (12/30) due to the winds.. shouldn't be a reason to close the airport until this point. The strong winds haven't even reached the eastern part of the country yet and this diversion happened many hours ago.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Mon Dec 26, 2016 8:48 pm

AirPacific747 wrote:
Thunderboltdrgn wrote:
According to the article, CPH was closed (original reasons to the diversion) and possibly the pilots/atc decided that MMX was unsuitable as well.


Sounds a bit weird that CPH was closed. I've been looking at CPH several times on Flightradar and they simply just started using the crossing runway (12/30) due to the winds.. shouldn't be a reason to close the airport until this point. The strong winds haven't even reached the eastern part of the country yet and this diversion happened many hours ago.


It's a terrible storm in northern Europe right now. Serious difficulties with the weather both in Norway, Sweden and Denmark. I'm guessing that is why the CPH airport was closed.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Mon Dec 26, 2016 9:03 pm

Thunderboltdrgn wrote:
According to the article, CPH was closed (original reasons to the diversion) and possibly the pilots/atc decided that MMX was unsuitable as well.


Did you even read the article or did you just link to it?? The article says that CPH was closed, so they went to MMX, went around there due to heavy gusty winds and were hit by lightning during the go-around at MMX, and diverted to Rønne.
BTW, Aftonbladet is not a very reputable source of information, they're pretty sensationalist, and a lightning strike is pretty much a non-event, not much to write home about. It's noisy and scary, but aircraft are built to withstand them, no problem.
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Mon Dec 26, 2016 9:09 pm

Mortyman wrote:
It's a terrible storm in northern Europe right now. Serious difficulties with the weather both in Norway, Sweden and Denmark. I'm guessing that is why the CPH airport was closed.


LOL. It's not THAT bad here in Copenhagen yet. And it was less severe earlier on. It's 260/27g42 currently according to the CPH metar.. Gusts are a bit of an issue, but runway 30 is almost straight into the wind.. Shouldn't be a reason to close the airport even now, let alone earlier today. And sure enough, the airport is still open for business.

Maybe it was very briefly closed due to a local thunderstorm or hail. But it can't have been for a very long time.

I agree that the lightning strike is a non-event. I was the FO on an A320 a few years ago when we got struck by a lightning on approach. Nothing happened except for a very bright flash in front of the windshield.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:17 pm

MalevTU134 wrote:
Did you even read the article or did you just link to it?? The article says that CPH was closed, so they went to MMX, went around there due to heavy
gusty winds and were hit by lightning during the go-around at MMX, and diverted to Rønne.


Which is exactly what i wrote in my previous posts to the one that you quoted.
You should read the thread properly before accusing posters of not reading the articles that they link.

MalevTU134 wrote:
BTW, Aftonbladet is not a very reputable source of information, they're pretty sensationalist, and a lightning strike is pretty much a non-event,
not much to write home about. It's noisy and scary, but aircraft are built to withstand them, no problem.


I am perfectly aware of Aftonbladet's quality, however the link was originally posted on twitter by SAS captain who is an A320 pilot for SAS.

https://twitter.com/SasCaptain/status/8 ... 7251463168
https://twitter.com/SasCaptain/status/8 ... 5344021506
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:25 pm

Anyway, today is the 25 year "anniversary" of the Scandinavian Airlines Flight 751 which is the MD-81 named Dana Viking that crashed at Gottröra.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinav ... Flight_751 http://www.havkom.se/assets/reports/Eng ... ttrora.pdf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XO04-Id ... xVgch2aQuw
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Tue Dec 27, 2016 10:40 pm

Thunderboltdrgn wrote:
MalevTU134 wrote:
Did you even read the article or did you just link to it?? The article says that CPH was closed, so they went to MMX, went around there due to heavy
gusty winds and were hit by lightning during the go-around at MMX, and diverted to Rønne.


Which is exactly what i wrote in my previous posts to the one that you quoted.
You should read the thread properly before accusing posters of not reading the articles that they link.

MalevTU134 wrote:
BTW, Aftonbladet is not a very reputable source of information, they're pretty sensationalist, and a lightning strike is pretty much a non-event,
not much to write home about. It's noisy and scary, but aircraft are built to withstand them, no problem.


I am perfectly aware of Aftonbladet's quality, however the link was originally posted on twitter by SAS captain who is an A320 pilot for SAS.

https://twitter.com/SasCaptain/status/8 ... 7251463168
https://twitter.com/SasCaptain/status/8 ... 5344021506


If you read the post to which I replied, and compare it to the article you linked to, you will see that the confusion is entirely of your own making. The discrepancy is such that one rightfully questions whether you have, in fact, read the article. I replied to that post of yours, not any previous ones.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Wed Dec 28, 2016 6:47 am

Icelandic media has reported on an "serious incident" from 19 October that is under investigation by the Icelandic Transportation Safety Board. An Icelandair Boeing 757-200 was arriving from Glasgow and was approaching runway 19 in a strong southerly wind when a rapid loss of altitude happened about 5 km out, just as the aircraft came over land. It dropped to about 300 feet before starting to climb again. A section of runway 01/19 was closed for repavement at the time. The pilots aborted the landing on 19 and went around to land on runway 11 but aborted the first attempt there as well because of heavy crosswind.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:43 am

AirPacific747 wrote:
LOL. It's not THAT bad here in Copenhagen yet. And it was less severe earlier on. It's 260/27g42 currently according to the CPH metar.. Gusts are a bit of an issue, but runway 30 is almost straight into the wind.. Shouldn't be a reason to close the airport even now, let alone earlier today. And sure enough, the airport is still open for business.

Maybe it was very briefly closed due to a local thunderstorm or hail. But it can't have been for a very long time.


Lol, it wasn't bad in Copenhagen at all :lol: Isn't the runway at EKRN at a more perpendicular angle to the wind than 30 at Copenhagen? There were some pretty bad rain/hail showers though, possibly the worst I have ever experienced on the ground in Denmark.

:)
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Wed Dec 28, 2016 2:03 pm

VSMUT wrote:
Lol, it wasn't bad in Copenhagen at all :lol: Isn't the runway at EKRN at a more perpendicular angle to the wind than 30 at Copenhagen? There were some pretty bad rain/hail showers though, possibly the worst I have ever experienced on the ground in Denmark.

:)


I agree. It was a storm in a cup (pun intended). The media went all crazy as usual though. I decided not to click any articles related to the storm. I did not wish to support their motivation for sensationalizing the storm.

True, I also got caught in a hail shower.. not pleasant at all :)
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:01 pm

Some missed news from late 2016

Norwegian celebrated the new milestone at HEL: 10 million passengers since the start in 2010. Norwegian currently have 38 direct routes to northern Finland, Europe and Dubai from Helsinki. Amsterdam and Pristina are the new routes in 2017.

They also have direct winter services from Oulu (OUL) to the Canary Islands and from London Gatwick to Rovaniemi (RVN).

The passanger number 10,000,000 received two return LH tickets in the Premium class from the Norwegian CEO:
http://www.finavia.fi/en/news-room/news ... assengers/
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:16 pm

When will we get traffic statistics for ARN, OSL? Can only find CPH so far with just above 29M for 2016.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:58 pm

Leeloo wrote:
When will we get traffic statistics for ARN, OSL? Can only find CPH so far with just above 29M for 2016.


Statistics for ARN is out. 1.883.955 (+13%) for December and 24.702.419 (+7%) in total for 2016.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:37 am

OSL December: 1.858.587 +9,9% (Domestic +5%, international +14% (including +12% on IC).

Full year: 25.764.347 +4,5%
 
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Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:01 pm

KEF full year 2016: 6.821.358 (+40,5%)

The number of transit passengers grew faster than O/D and the highest growth occurred outside the summer peak season.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:23 pm

CPH:

December: 2.079.679 +7,6%. Full year: 29.043.287 +9,3%
 
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Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:09 pm

HEL:

17,184,661 with 4,6% growth.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:26 am

Do you think that Qatar would start fly DOH-HEL with a wide-body soon?
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:51 am

MSN7489 SAS next and 5th A320neo. To be registered SE-DOX

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HopLGMbpPs
 
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Thu Jan 12, 2017 5:31 pm

BenQu wrote:
Do you think that Qatar would start fly DOH-HEL with a wide-body soon?

It was discussed in some finnish aviation forums, if they will fly a wide body its likely going to be the 787 but thats just rumors and we dont know how the loads are.
EDIT: It seems like the 787 is always listed as aircraft if you select a flight after 22. September 2017
 
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Fri Jan 13, 2017 11:30 am

Ideekay wrote:
BenQu wrote:
Do you think that Qatar would start fly DOH-HEL with a wide-body soon?

It was discussed in some finnish aviation forums, if they will fly a wide body its likely going to be the 787 but thats just rumors and we dont know how the loads are.
EDIT: It seems like the 787 is always listed as aircraft if you select a flight after 22. September 2017


Now it looks HEL gets QR 787 daily from 16 September, of course changes possible. Great to see more 787s at HEL, so far the daily JAL 787 from NRT has been the most regular visitor.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Fri Jan 13, 2017 11:36 am

hvusslax wrote:
KEF full year 2016: 6.821.358 (+40,5%)


Thats huge growth :eyepopping: How does KEF cope with that physically?
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Fri Jan 13, 2017 12:11 pm

Cityjet's 9th CRJ-900 flying on SAS wetlease is scheduled to be delivered the first week of February
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Sat Jan 14, 2017 7:27 am

Qatar Airways is increasing DOH-ARN from 13 to 14 weekly flights effective 29 March 2017

Source: http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... f-13jan17/

Edit: The HEL B788 upgrade is also found here
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:41 pm

HELyes wrote:
Ideekay wrote:
BenQu wrote:
Do you think that Qatar would start fly DOH-HEL with a wide-body soon?

It was discussed in some finnish aviation forums, if they will fly a wide body its likely going to be the 787 but thats just rumors and we dont know how the loads are.
EDIT: It seems like the 787 is always listed as aircraft if you select a flight after 22. September 2017


Now it looks HEL gets QR 787 daily from 16 September, of course changes possible. Great to see more 787s at HEL, so far the daily JAL 787 from NRT has been the most regular visitor.


Yeah it looks like a dreamliner is coming.
http://www.lentoposti.fi/uutiset/qatar_ ... syyskuussa
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:12 pm

Figures for Copenhagen Airport and Airlines passenger numbers. Impressive growth by Ryanair with 168%. SAS is as expected still very dominant tough with pretty much same amount of passengers as Norwegian, Ryanair, Easyjet, Lufthansa, KLM and Air Berlin together. 29 million passengers for CPH in total.

http://www.check-in.dk/ryanair-stormer-frem-i-cph/


 
Total
26.610.332
29.043.287
9,1%


1
SCANDINAVIAN AIRLINES
10.287.224
10.568.477
2,7%
2
NORWEGIAN
4.534.650
5.020.802
10,7%
3
RYANAIR LTD
715.251
1.917.727
168,1%
4
EASYJET
1.530.569
1.578.943
3,2%
5
LUFTHANSA
603.951
650.850
7,8%
6
KLM ROYAL DUTCH AIRLINES
515.993
545.437
5,7%
7
AIR BERLIN
482.982
509.018
5,4%
8
DANISH AIR TRANSPORT
368.684
479.301
30,0%
9
BRITISH AIRWAYS
519.775
476.578
-8,3%
10
FINNAIR
378.553
387.740
2,4%
11
AIR FRANCE
387.771
376.254
-3,0%
12
THOMAS COOK AIRLINES SCANDINAVIA
338.353
363.150
7,3%
13
ICELANDAIR
337.354
354.384
5,0%
14
VUELING AIRLINES
293.258
345.476
17,8%
15
TURKISH AIRLINES
338.830
326.644
-3,6%
16
AUSTRIAN AIRLINES
309.816
320.524
3,5%
17
EMIRATES
259.630
312.688
20,4%
18
QATAR AIRWAYS
209.537
287.032
37,0%
19
SWISS INTERNATIONAL AIRLINES
324.234
286.628
-11,6%
20
THAI AIRWAYS INTERNATIONAL
230.513
235.029
2,0%
 
Andre
3.643.404
3.700.605
1,6%
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:17 am

HELyes wrote:
hvusslax wrote:
KEF full year 2016: 6.821.358 (+40,5%)


Thats huge growth :eyepopping: How does KEF cope with that physically?


Better than one would probably expect. The terminal gets very crowded at peak hours and needs serious expansion but those peak hours in the day and the peak season within the year have also spread around so the facilities see more even use now than they used to when it was completely deserted between Icelandair's flight banks. There is a big ongoing expansion now that will significantly improve the transiting experience with bigger non-Schengen areas but it does not address the lack of jetbridges. A whole new pier with new gates is in planning phase but won't be ready for some years.

I'm not a fan of the airport's chosen strategy of constantly adding on to existing buildings for the foreseeable future. It means constant disruption to existing facilities as they need to be completely rearranged multiple times. Construction in an active terminal building tends to be more complex, time-consuming and expensive than projected. There is just so much more complexity involved than in the construction of an entirely separate building. I think it would have been faster and cheaper in the long run to build a completely new separate terminal to either complement the existing one or replacing it.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:57 am

For CPH it is interesting to note that Lufthansa is growing, but the route CPH-FRA is falling.
Do we conclude that CPH-MUC must be a winner for LH, or is SK loosing traffic to Lufthansa on the CPH-FRA route.

Can anyone confirm which of these two is happening?

LUFTHANSA 603.951 (2015) - 650.850 (2016) +7,8%

CPH-FRA 681.754 (2015) - 662.305 (2016) -3%

Destinations from CPH (2016):

1. LONDON
2. Stockhom
3. Oslo
4. Amsterdam
5. Paris
6. Aalborg
7. Helsinki
8. Berlin (+1)
9. Frankfurt (-1)
10. Milan
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:10 am

I might be wrong, but if I remember correctly SAS cut 1 round trip CPH-FRA towards the end of 2015?
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:13 pm

BMI Regional is starting 6x weekly BHX-GOT from May 8th

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... -may-2017/
Birmingham – Gothenburg
BM1441 BHX0620 – 0920GOT ER4 45
BM1443 BHX1120 – 1420GOT ER4 1
BM1443 BHX1315 – 1615GOT ER4 237

BM1442 GOT0950 – 1055BHX ER4 45
BM1444 GOT1450 – 1555BHX ER4 1
BM1444 GOT1645 – 1750BHX ER4 237


Seems like Finnair plans to use A340-300 on ORD and MIA the coming summer

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... f-16jan17/
Helsinki – Chicago O’Hare 01MAY17 – 29MAY17 4 weekly (5 weekly from 12MAY17)
Helsinki – Miami 01JUN17 – 28SEP17 3 weekly
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:24 pm

Air India is planning to start serving DEL-CPH from May 2017, using Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner aircraft

Has been talked about for a while now.

Source: https://twitter.com/airindiain/status/8 ... 4168177665
 
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Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:52 am

Someone83 wrote:
Finnair is increasing NRT and HKG next summer, from early June and to end October

HEL-NRT is increasing by 4x weekly from daily to 11x weekly, so the new schedule will be 7x weekly A333 and 4x weekly A359. In addition JV partner JAL with 7x weekly A788

In reality, it is a capacity increase and not a frequency, as all the NRT leaves HEL on the same time
AY71 16:45 A350-900
AY73 17:15 A330-300
JL414 17:25 B787-8


Now also JAL are increasing capacity on the NRT-HEL route this summer, the daily 787-8 is replaced by 787-9, eff 02 APR except 15 MAY – 03 JUN.

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... f-18jan17/



Finnair and Flybe expand codesharing:

Paris - Cardiff/Doncaster-Sheffield/Birmingham/Southampton
Düsseldorf - Birmingham
Düsseldorf - Birmingham/Southampton
Amsterdam - Birmingham/Southampton/Doncaster-Sheffield
Berlin – Birmingham

Finnair and FlyBe currently cooperate on Flybe operated routes between Manchester and eight regional airports in the UK.

https://company.finnair.com/en/media/al ... id=2429605
 
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Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:54 pm

n line with its growth strategy, Finnair has today announced that it is expanding for the winter 2017 season with new scheduled flights to Puerto Vallarta in Mexico, Havana in Cuba, Goa in India and Puerto Plata in the Dominican Republic. In addition, Finnair will be adding extra frequencies to many of its popular winter holiday and business destinations in Asia.

Between November 19 and March 18, Finnair will fly a new scheduled weekly flight to Puerto Vallarta, Mexico. The flight will be operated on Sundays with Finnair’s new A350 aircraft. Puerto Vallarta is a popular tourism region on Mexico’s Pacific Ocean coast.

Between November 30 and March 22, Finnair will fly a new scheduled weekly flight to Puerto Plata in the Dominican Republic. The flight will be operated on Thursdays with an A330 aircraft.

Between December 1 and March 23, Finnair will fly two weekly scheduled flights to Havana, Cuba. The flights will be operated on Mondays and Fridays with an A350 aircraft.

Between November 29 and March 21, Finnair will fly two weekly fights to the coastal city of Goa in India. The flights will be operated from Helsinki on Wednesdays and Sundays with an A330 aircraft. In addition, Finnair will add a weekly frequency on its Delhi route, flying six times a week to the Indian capital during the winter season.

Finnair will also add capacity to Thailand during the winter 2017 season. Two additional weekly frequencies will be added to the Bangkok route, bringing the total number of flights between Helsinki and Bangkok to 16 weekly. Finnair will also adjust its schedule to offer a late evening flight between both cities giving additional flexibility for travelers. Flights schedules for the Krabi and Phuket routes for winter 2017 have also been adjusted in order to enable more efficient connections for passengers flying from the Baltic and Scandinavian countries.

As of the beginning of the winter 2017 season, Finnair will also be adding two new frequencies to its Singapore route, making it a daily destination year-round, and three additional weekly frequencies to Hong Kong, making it a 10-weekly operation year-round.

Source: https://company.finnair.com/en/media/al ... id=2430741
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:34 pm

That is a quite significant increase
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:53 pm

They have four A350s coming in 2017 which will be deployed alongside with the existing fleet to accomodate these new routes
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:29 pm

FINNAIR is starting some new routes from finnish lapland.
Ivalo - London Gatwick Twice a week (Thursday, sunday)
Kittilä - Zürich Once a week (Saturday)
Kittilä - Frankfurt Once a week (Tuesday)
Kittilä - Paris CDG Once a week (Tuesday)
Flights will be flown with A320- and A321 aircraft. Flights start mid-december 2017 and last until end of march 2018.

Also FINNAIR is adding more capacity to flights from Helsinki to lapland in winter 2017-18.
Helsinki - Rovaniemi +3 flights a week
Helsinki - Ivalo +4 flights a week
Helsinki - Kittilä +4 flights a week
Helsinki - Kuusamo +1 flight a week

Source: https://company.finnair.com/en/media/al ... id=2430728
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:53 pm

It's awesome to see AY become a truly global airline. Any idea what the schedules are like to the new destinations? I'm especially curious about Puerto Vallarta, It will take over the place as AY longest route: http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=hel-sin%0D ... =wls&DU=mi

As their redoing their flight numbers it would be funny if they designated the HAV-HEL flight as AY666...
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:30 pm

Someone83 wrote:
That is a quite significant increase


These long haul routes are former leisure/charter services converted now to scheduled routes, only Puerto Vallarta is a new(?), they have served at least Cancun in Mexico though. Perhaps surprisingly, Finnair has always been busy at the leisure/charter markets. Havana and Goa are getting more capacity comparing to current charter flights, A350 to HAV will be a success I believe.

16 departures/week to BKK next winter sounds a lot, with Phuket and Krabi it means 21 departures to Thailand. Finnair strongly believes in Land of Smiles.

lucce wrote:
It's awesome to see AY become a truly global airline. Any idea what the schedules are like to the new destinations? I'm especially curious about Puerto Vallarta, It will take over the place as AY longest route: http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=hel-sin%0D ... =wls&DU=mi


Oh yes PVR will be their longest route, probably too much for a full A333.

HEL-PVR once weekly on Sundays

AY025 HEL-PVR 14:10-18.40 12:30h
AY026 PVR-HEL 20:30-16:00 (+1) 11:30h

https://www.finnair.com/fi/gb/informati ... /timetable
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:17 pm

Air Greenland will operate its A330 once per week to KEF from August 7th to September 2nd:

http://ch-aviation.com/portal/news/5258 ... nd-flights
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Sat Jan 21, 2017 2:57 am

Norwegian is starting PMI-TRF 2x weekly from March 30th 2017:

Palma - Oslo Sandefjord/Torp: 07.00 – 10.25 47

Oslo Sandefjord/Torp – Palma: 11.15 – 14.40 47

http://media.norwegian.com/es/#/pressre ... rp-1734485
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Sat Jan 21, 2017 2:16 pm

lesfalls wrote:
Air Greenland will operate its A330 once per week to KEF from August 7th to September 2nd:

http://ch-aviation.com/portal/news/5258 ... nd-flights


That's weird. Once a week for less than a month? Four round-trips total?
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:19 pm

hvusslax wrote:
lesfalls wrote:
Air Greenland will operate its A330 once per week to KEF from August 7th to September 2nd:

http://ch-aviation.com/portal/news/5258 ... nd-flights


That's weird. Once a week for less than a month? Four round-trips total?

I'm guessing that they want to increase the number of tourists to Greenland. It might only be 4 RT flights but I would think that it's quite a lot for Greenland.
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:26 am

How is SK doing on their new MIA route? Is the CPH segment successful out of MIA?
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:31 am

miaintl wrote:
How is SK doing on their new MIA route? Is the CPH segment successful out of MIA?


I do not know how successful it is, because I do not have the financial numbers. But I did fly OSL MIA and the flight was full. In our flight there was a lot of Swedes. Mostly Scandinavians. Not to many Americans.
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:45 am

miaintl wrote:
How is SK doing on their new MIA route? Is the CPH segment successful out of MIA?




At least SAS fills up the planes well. Then of course it depends on what price they can sell the tickets for.
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 4

Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:20 am

lesfalls wrote:
I'm guessing that they want to increase the number of tourists to Greenland. It might only be 4 RT flights but I would think that it's quite a lot for Greenland.

You are right. Sure these flights have been coordinated with some tour operators across Europe. With so much traffic from all over to KEF nowadays it makes sense to pick them up at KEF instead of CPH.

Timing also fits. Early August, then school holidays are over, and Danish people on temporary duty in Greenland are back from their summer family reunions, which is the most busy period for Air Greenland with little or no capacity to serve tourists. Come September, and the Greenland tourist season is definitely over.

There is likely not much "new" with these flights. Inclusive tours to Greenland are not something really new, even if they are still on very small scale. Some of the capacity to serve tour operators has just been moved from CPH to KEF.
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