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MSY to announce new int'l carrier: Update: BA announces LHR-MSY

Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:55 am

From the New Orleans Advocate:

New Orleans officials had scheduled a special announcement Tuesday at Louis Armstrong International Airport, with speculation growing over whether the city had landed the big fish it was after: British Airways.

http://www.theadvocate.com/new_orleans/ ... ft_amplify
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Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:00 am

It was discussed in an earlier thread that BA was announcing a new US destination soon and a.net pretty much agreed it was between BNA and MSY. If this is indeed BA service, good for MSY. Wouldn't be surprised if it was a LCC like Norwegian though.
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Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:01 am

Long , thin routes like this are what the 787 is made for.

Hope the good folks in NOLA see a BA 788 soon :)
 
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Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:13 am

If this turns out to be prescient, then it'd probably explain having AA sub out the PHL frequency.

But I doubt they'd start it with a 777. I'm guessing it'll replace a 788 somewhere?
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Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:22 am

I'm hoping for London as well. Timing wise I think FI is also a possibility - would be an oddball route, but so is DE's MSY-FRA.

The airport and business community have also been seeking flights to MEX and MSY-MEX was proposed with the DL/AM JV and recently applied for separately by Volaris I believe, so that's another possibility.
 
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Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:28 am

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but so is DE's MSY-FRA.

How's that "oddball" in any way?
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Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:33 am

Wishing MSY the best...
 
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Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:46 am

LAX772LR wrote:
msycajun wrote:
but so is DE's MSY-FRA.

How's that "oddball" in any way?


Well, based on the numbers I've seen, FRA is only the 4th or 5th largest Euro route from MSY. Most of us expected LHR or CDG or even AMS long before FRA. And it's on a carrier that doesn't fly to any other U.S. cities that have no other European service as far as I can think of. Not quite as odd as MSY-KEF would be, but still I think it was a surprise for most of us.
 
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Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:48 am

BA likes to announce new cities around this time year.
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Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:14 am

msycajun wrote:
LAX772LR wrote:
msycajun wrote:
but so is DE's MSY-FRA.

How's that "oddball" in any way?


Well, based on the numbers I've seen, FRA is only the 4th or 5th largest Euro route from MSY. Most of us expected LHR or CDG or even AMS long before FRA. And it's on a carrier that doesn't fly to any other U.S. cities that have no other European service as far as I can think of. Not quite as odd as MSY-KEF would be, but still I think it was a surprise for most of us.


Condor flies to a few US cities without European service. Anchorage, Fairbanks, and until recently Providence. There are also a few cities in Canada without service.

Also Condor has excellent connections from Frankfurt. They have a pretty thorough interline agreement with Lufthansa so you can get to most major cities in Europe.
 
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Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:19 am

FI has zilch interest in MSY service, the market is simply put too minuscule to consider.

BA will be a great addition if it comes to be.
 
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Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:19 am

Well to be fair, ANC also has FI, which kind of makes my point that FI could be at play at MSY. By the way, I am very happy we got DE service and plan to take a trip with them next summer.
 
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Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:33 am

if it is BA, I'm really curious where that 777 will go from PHL.

also would be fun to see a long awaited a.net gossipped destination get announced
 
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Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:11 am

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Most of us expected LHR or CDG or even AMS long before FRA.

We did?

If it weren't BA, then DE or DU would've been my immediate second guess for a carrier to try MSY-Europe.
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msycajun wrote:
And it's on a carrier that doesn't fly to any other U.S. cities that have no other European service as far as I can think of.

They've served FAI for years, which has no other Euro service.


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if it is BA, I'm really curious where that 777 will go from PHL

If they are indeed headed to MSY, then I'm betting the 777 goes to LHR-YYC; a route that was previously a 777 not long ago, thus freeing up the 788 currently used thereon.
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Re: MSY to announce new int'l carrier: local papers think BA to LON

Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:25 am

Looks like it's been postponed:

"But late Monday, the announcement was postponed due to a "scheduling conflict," said Hayne Rainey, a City Hall spokesman, who said the event was in the process of being rescheduled. A source with knowledge of the negotiations said late Monday that postponement of the news conference should not be taken as a signal that the announcement will not happen. The source declined to confirm the name of the carrier or the international destination it will fly to."

Did the airport initially specifically say it would be an international route, or is the media speculating?
 
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Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:29 am

AVLAirlineFreq wrote:
Did the airport initially specifically say it would be an international route, or is the media speculating?

I wondered that too. Of note is the last sentence that you posted, which seems to "confirm" the topic being an international service announcement.

That is of course, if this "unnamed source" is to be trusted.
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Tue Oct 04, 2016 4:18 am

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The airport and business community have also been seeking flights to MEX and MSY-MEX was proposed with the DL/AM JV and recently applied for separately by Volaris I believe, so that's another possibility.


Didn't AM try MSY-MEX for a short time with ERJs?
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The two most likely choices are either BA to LHR or Y4 to MEX. I'd be happy for either one, but BA would definitely be preferred. Landing BA would also be the icing on the cake for the departing airport director Iftakhar Ahmad. He leaves October 12th to lead the airport authority in Rhode Island. The next director is going to have some big shoes to fill.
 
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af773atmsp wrote:
msycajun wrote:
The airport and business community have also been seeking flights to MEX and MSY-MEX was proposed with the DL/AM JV and recently applied for separately by Volaris I believe, so that's another possibility.


Didn't AM try MSY-MEX for a short time with ERJs?


Yes, they flew to MEX back in 2008-09 I believe. Unfortunately, the market was still recovering from Katrina at that time, and the Great Recession did not help matters. The flight lasted about a year. Things are vastly different now. Y4 on a less than daily schedule would probably do well. The Mexican population has also grown since then, and is now the second largest Hispanic group in the area. The Central American population is still the largest. Thus, the flight to PTY with CM.
 
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Tue Oct 04, 2016 5:50 am

LAX772LR wrote:
AVLAirlineFreq wrote:
Did the airport initially specifically say it would be an international route, or is the media speculating?

I wondered that too. Of note is the last sentence that you posted, which seems to "confirm" the topic being an international service announcement.

That is of course, if this "unnamed source" is to be trusted.

IMO just more rumor and speculation. I'll wait until the airline makes the announcement.
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Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:28 am

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Didn't AM try MSY-MEX for a short time with ERJs?

Yes, in mid 2009... juuuust in time for the H1N1 ("Swine Flu") epidemic that hit MEX. :(

The fact that the flight required a 4:30am checkin, and that they didn't advertise it worth a flip, didn't help.
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Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:39 pm

I'm pretty certain the rescheduling has to do with the fact that Gov. Edwards is currently in Cuba on a trade mission. He's there through Friday, so I would expect the announcement to be next Tuesday now. On a local development forum, LON was confirmed by someone that works for the Lt. Governors office. Didn't say which airport or airline since I'm sure there are confidentiality clauses.
 
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Would a BA MSY-LHR service have any effect on DE's seasonal MSY-FRA service?
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Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:56 pm

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I'm pretty certain the rescheduling has to do with the fact that Gov. Edwards is currently in Cuba on a trade mission. He's there through Friday, so I would expect the announcement to be next Tuesday now. On a local development forum, LON was confirmed by someone that works for the Lt. Governors office. Didn't say which airport or airline since I'm sure there are confidentiality clauses.


The Governor wants to the be there and the airport director wants to end his tenure with a bang. An announcement next week makes sense.

I know the development forum you speak of, and considering the people who post on there, I'd say that's strong confirmation. I guess we'll find out.
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Would a BA MSY-LHR service have any effect on DE's seasonal MSY-FRA service?


They focus on different markets. Condor goes almost exclusively goes after leisure travelers (primarily going to Europe). BA will get any business traffic and will probably get most if not all traffic headed from Europe to MSY.
 
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Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:17 pm

Maybe it's Norwegian?
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Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:27 pm

klakzky123 wrote:
787fan8 wrote:
Would a BA MSY-LHR service have any effect on DE's seasonal MSY-FRA service?


They focus on different markets. Condor goes almost exclusively goes after leisure travelers (primarily going to Europe).


I'd argue Condor's clientele skew far towards the European, not American, point of sale.
 
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Polot wrote:
klakzky123 wrote:
787fan8 wrote:
Would a BA MSY-LHR service have any effect on DE's seasonal MSY-FRA service?


They focus on different markets. Condor goes almost exclusively goes after leisure travelers (primarily going to Europe).


I'd argue Condor's clientele skew far towards the European, not American, point of sale.


Depends on the city I would think. At least where I am, Condor's traffic is all American tourists going to Europe. I've seen the same in some other cities. But you're right, for New Orleans that could be different.
 
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klakzky123 wrote:
787fan8 wrote:
Would a BA MSY-LHR service have any effect on DE's seasonal MSY-FRA service?


They focus on different markets. Condor goes almost exclusively goes after leisure travelers (primarily going to Europe). BA will get any business traffic and will probably get most if not all traffic headed from Europe to MSY.



I believe the exact opposite will pan out to be the case. Condor will bring a tremendous amount of European (German) traffic to MSY/Louisiana - the flights are well timed for Europeans, marketed heavily over there. To my knowledge they have no frequent flyer tie-ins with US carriers. Most US travelers that are buying a ticket are going to want their points and benefits so they will simply live with the connection over a US hub to get to Europe - if all things are equal fare wise or close to it. I see the Condor flight as more of an inbound boon to tourism for the state and MSY and any new carrier flying to LON as more of a benefit to the outbound and inbound tourism, corporate, oil/gas markets. Really a perfect set up.
 
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braniff2hav wrote:
klakzky123 wrote:
787fan8 wrote:
Would a BA MSY-LHR service have any effect on DE's seasonal MSY-FRA service?


They focus on different markets. Condor goes almost exclusively goes after leisure travelers (primarily going to Europe). BA will get any business traffic and will probably get most if not all traffic headed from Europe to MSY.



I believe the exact opposite will pan out to be the case. Condor will bring a tremendous amount of European (German) traffic to MSY/Louisiana - the flights are well timed for Europeans, marketed heavily over there. To my knowledge they have no frequent flyer tie-ins with US carriers. Most US travelers that are buying a ticket are going to want their points and benefits so they will simply live with the connection over a US hub to get to Europe - if all things are equal fare wise or close to it. I see the Condor flight as more of an inbound boon to tourism for the state and MSY and any new carrier flying to LON as more of a benefit to the outbound and inbound tourism, corporate, oil/gas markets. Really a perfect set up.


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I am hearing BA to LHR.
 
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I am hearing BA as well, although it is still unconfirmed, so I will hold off celebrating until the official announcement.

Regarding the alliances and frequent fliers, the three network carriers are all very well represented with DL being #2, AA #3 and UA #4, not counting Star Alliance partners AC and CM (all behind #1 WN). All of them serve most if not all of their major hubs, and many business passengers have status on more than one carrier. BA would give AA a competitive advantage over DL along with the recently added LAX nonstop.
 
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they flew to MEX back in 2008-09 I believe. Unfortunately, the market was still recovering from Katrina at that time, and the Great Recession did not help matters. The flight lasted about a year. Things are vastly different now.

And before then, AM had Mad Dog or even DC-9 service from MEX to MSY via CUN. It would be very interesting if AM-DL relaunch MEX-MSY. The E170/5 and E190 could make it work.
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EddieDude wrote:
NolaMD88fan wrote:
they flew to MEX back in 2008-09 I believe. Unfortunately, the market was still recovering from Katrina at that time, and the Great Recession did not help matters. The flight lasted about a year. Things are vastly different now.

And before then, AM had Mad Dog or even DC-9 service from MEX to MSY via CUN. It would be very interesting if AM-DL relaunch MEX-MSY. The E170/5 and E190 could make it work.


MSY-MEX was in Delta's JV application to the DOT. Its a perfect E170/5 route (although would compete with Copa).
 
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Wouldn't BA to LGW be possible?

New Orleans seems more of leisure market, like Orlando which is served from LGW. Also BA is betting heavy on long-haul leisure from LGW, with new routes like CPT, LIM or SJO. IMO MSY fits better here than in business-oriented LHR.
 
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Wouldn't BA to LGW be possible?

New Orleans seems more of leisure market, like Orlando which is served from LGW. Also BA is betting heavy on long-haul leisure from LGW, with new routes like CPT, LIM or SJO. IMO MSY fits better here than in business-oriented LHR.


Possible, but really limits connections. A route to a smaller US city needs to have onward connections from the European hub, even with decent O&D.
 
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SCQ83 wrote:
Wouldn't BA to LGW be possible?

New Orleans seems more of leisure market, like Orlando which is served from LGW. Also BA is betting heavy on long-haul leisure from LGW, with new routes like CPT, LIM or SJO. IMO MSY fits better here than in business-oriented LHR.


Possible, but really limits connections. A route to a smaller US city needs to have onward connections from the European hub, even with decent O&D.


That is very arguable. BA serves many small Caribbean markets from LGW. London is the largest market in Europe so they can probably support a 3-4 weekly by themselves. Unless they make it daily at LHR targeted to connections. Two different approaches.
 
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Tue Oct 04, 2016 5:46 pm

The CEO at MSY just announced he is leaving for PVD. If he got BA he could have leveraged it to get that job, BUT airports hire very slowly so that seems unlikely. Conversely, if they got BA wouldn't they have done something to try and keep him?

Maybe they are getting GLO to Merida or something...

http://www.nola.com/business/index.ssf/ ... r_ahm.html

I'm not sure I see MSY working year-round daily, and I agree it would be to LGW if true. The market is very seasonal and during peaks the prime room availability that a relatively high-end Euro traveler would want is pretty hard to get which would also hurt. II'd think BNA/IND or even CLE would be better choices if they are sticking with their AUS style strategy of flying to cities with no existing Europe.
 
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Tue Oct 04, 2016 5:59 pm

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Would a BA MSY-LHR service have any effect on DE's seasonal MSY-FRA service?

Who'd care?? :-P

Getting BA to return has been that airport's goal for a longgggg time.
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see the Condor flight as more of an inbound boon to tourism for the state and MSY and any new carrier flying to LON as more of a benefit to the outbound and inbound tourism, corporate, oil/gas markets. Really a perfect set up.

Agree completely.

I also wouldn't be surprised to see perhaps a weekly DU to CDG added eventually. Longterm.


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Wouldn't BA to LGW be possible?

enilria wrote:
and I agree it would be to LGW if true.

BA already tried LGW-MSY back in the day, and it didn't last.

MSY is currently the largest British O&D market in the USA without a nonstop to LON, but it still isn't enough to reliably fill a 772ER to yield, which is what would be needed to sustain an LGW flight.

A 787 to LHR, with a healthy mix of O&D and connections, is a much more likely probability.



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Conversely, if they got BA wouldn't they have done something to try and keep him?

Or, it could be that he's completed what they hired him to do.

Since the guy's come in, they've gained scheduled service to Germany, Panama, and now a seeming resumption of the UK; in addition to expanding service to Mexico, Canada, and the Caribbean.

The airport is serving 20 more destinations than its pre-9/11 high, it's one of (if not THE) only FAA designated "medium hub" with nonstop service to Central America, and in two out of the last three years, it's been the fastest growing such airport in the country.

His tenure has been nothing short of miraculous for MSY, which from 2005 to 2009, had **no** scheduled international service at all, on any airline.
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it will undoubtedly be to LHR, all the discussion has talked about has been "being just like AUS" which also utilizes a lot of the connections at LHR.

I'll bet on 4x weekly, and if it does well like Austin does, an eventual upgrade to daily. I would compare to SJC but that's such a different business climate than AUS or MSY
 
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So what time today Is the OFFICIAL Announcement being made?
 
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So what time today Is the OFFICIAL Announcement being made?


The article states that the announcement has been rescheduled. Most of the state govt. officials are currently in Havana on a trade mission with Cuba (http://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/ ... f8337.html), and I can guarantee that the governor and head of Louisiana Economic Development will be at this announcement. They are supposed to return on Friday, so we'll either hear something then or early next week.
 
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ryanrap1 wrote:
So what time today Is the OFFICIAL Announcement being made?


The article states that the announcement has been rescheduled. Most of the state govt. officials are currently in Havana on a trade mission with Cuba (http://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/ ... f8337.html), and I can guarantee that the governor and head of Louisiana Economic Development will be at this announcement. They are supposed to return on Friday, so we'll either hear something then or early next week.


Hmm. You'd think they would have taken all this into account BEFORE scheduling the announcement.
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I'll bet on 4x weekly, and if it does well like Austin does, an eventual upgrade to daily.

Agreed. I wouldn't be surprised if the initial schedule is something like a 4xWeekly 1567 or a 5xWeekly 13567


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Hmm. You'd think they would have taken all this into account BEFORE scheduling the announcement.

To be fair, no official entity publicized an announcement schedule.

What likely happened is that they came up with an initial schedule, found out there would be conflicts, and delayed... but somehow it got leaked to the papers.
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Re: MSY to announce new int'l carrier: local papers think BA to LON

Tue Oct 04, 2016 7:54 pm

OA412 wrote:
NolaMD88fan wrote:
ryanrap1 wrote:
So what time today Is the OFFICIAL Announcement being made?


The article states that the announcement has been rescheduled. Most of the state govt. officials are currently in Havana on a trade mission with Cuba (http://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/ ... f8337.html), and I can guarantee that the governor and head of Louisiana Economic Development will be at this announcement. They are supposed to return on Friday, so we'll either hear something then or early next week.


Hmm. You'd think they would have taken all this into account BEFORE scheduling the announcement.


My guess is the Mayor's office was only thinking of city officials, airport board members, local business and civic leaders, and the Lt. Governor being at the announcement when they first scheduled it. That was who was present for the DE announcement. The governor likely chimed in that they also want to be at the announcement, so the date had to be rescheduled. The Lt. Governor's office runs the state tourism agency if anyone was wondering.
 
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Re: MSY to announce new int'l carrier: local papers think BA to LON

Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:29 pm

I would say British Airways is going to launch LHR-MSY & MSY-LHR for several reasons. First of all, I've heard that MSY is one of the largest unserved destinations out of MSY. As well as that, British Airways does have lots of connections at LHR which will also help the flight.
 
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Re: MSY to announce new int'l carrier: local papers think BA to LON

Tue Oct 04, 2016 10:10 pm

LAX772LR wrote:
SCQ83 wrote:
Wouldn't BA to LGW be possible?

enilria wrote:
and I agree it would be to LGW if true.

BA already tried LGW-MSY back in the day, and it didn't last.

MSY is currently the largest British O&D market in the USA without a nonstop to LON, but it still isn't enough to reliably fill a 772ER to yield, which is what would be needed to sustain an LGW flight.

A 787 to LHR, with a healthy mix of O&D and connections, is a much more likely probability.


Dumb question maybe, but I don't know much about DE: to what extent will/would BA be competing for connections with DE? I'm not sure how the DE flights mesh with the FRA hub banks.
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Re: MSY to announce new int'l carrier: local papers think BA to LON

Tue Oct 04, 2016 10:13 pm

Really hoping that New Orleans gets a BA flight very soon. I believe that this flight would be a success with a 787 as it would not only serve New Orleans proper but also the tourist and business interests in Baton Rouge, South Louisiana, and the Gulf Coast.
 
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Re: MSY to announce new int'l carrier: local papers think BA to LON

Tue Oct 04, 2016 10:28 pm

NichCage wrote:
First of all, I've heard that MSY is one of the largest unserved destinations out of MSY.

Indeed. MSY has nigh unlimited demand to MSY, far more than any other airport in the world. ;)


Cubsrule wrote:
Dumb question maybe, but I don't know much about DE: to what extent will/would BA be competing for connections with DE? I'm not sure how the DE flights mesh with the FRA hub banks.

DE interlines with LH to essentially every major destination in Europe, and even a few shorter intercons... MSY-FRA's arrival times aren't the best in the world, but they do fit into plenty of options.

What's odd though is that (last time I checked) DE's website wasn't offering them (from MSY) whereas third party sites like Kayak, were. Very odd.
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Re: MSY to announce new int'l carrier: local papers think BA to LON

Tue Oct 04, 2016 10:40 pm

Not sure of the exact specifics for the DE flight from MSY, but in my experience DE connects to the entire LH network at FRA, so it would be very competitive with BA connections to Europe and beyond over LHR. In July I flew BWI-FRA on DE then connected to LH to Barcelona. There were at least 10-15 other people from my BWI-FRA flight who connected to my flight to BCN, and it seemed like most of the plane was connecting beyond FRA. I'd say that from BWI the vast majority of people were Americans, not Europeans, going on European trips. Several families. Overall, it was a good experience and I thought the onboard service was good. I'd fly them again.

Cubsrule wrote:
LAX772LR wrote:
SCQ83 wrote:
Wouldn't BA to LGW be possible?

enilria wrote:
and I agree it would be to LGW if true.

BA already tried LGW-MSY back in the day, and it didn't last.

MSY is currently the largest British O&D market in the USA without a nonstop to LON, but it still isn't enough to reliably fill a 772ER to yield, which is what would be needed to sustain an LGW flight.

A 787 to LHR, with a healthy mix of O&D and connections, is a much more likely probability.


Dumb question maybe, but I don't know much about DE: to what extent will/would BA be competing for connections with DE? I'm not sure how the DE flights mesh with the FRA hub banks.

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